In this episode, I sit down with Jay Singh, founder of Casper Studios, to explore how AI voice agents are transforming how we create, communicate, and collect information.
We dive into how Jay helped Kit’s team automate workflows with voice-based AI, why voice will soon replace typing entirely, and how creators can use tools like Whisper Flow and ElevenLabs to turn ideas into finished content faster. Jay also gives a live demo, showing exactly how to build a working AI voice agent from scratch.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 Hitting a $2M run rate with AI implementation
03:34 How Kit’s team uses AI to build internal tools
05:11 Building an automation culture with AI education
06:48 Why voice will replace typing
09:21 The Apple example and how voice got good again
12:16 Why speaking first creates more authentic content
18:52 The power of transcripts as creative building blocks
22:06 Using voice to collect team insights and automate discovery
26:22 Live demo: building a working AI voice agent
33:02 Setting guardrails and testing your AI agent
40:24 How creators can integrate voice feedback loops
47:48 How AI changes human interaction and trust
50:01 Practical next steps for creators using voice
54:15 Final takeaways and what’s next for Casper Studios
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In this episode, I sit down with Jessica Miller, business strategist and founder of Jessica Miller Coaching, to uncover four keys that will help you unlock $100K in hidden profit inside your existing business.
Jessica shares how to identify the “Hell Yes” offer that energizes you and your audience, simple add-ons and bundles that boost profit instantly, and how to reactivate past clients and turn referrals into a predictable growth system. We also dive into real client examples—from $80-an-hour coaches turning into $30K earners, to brick-and-mortar shops doubling revenue overnight.
If you want to find the hidden money already inside your business, this episode is your roadmap.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 Jessica’s journey from pharmacist to business strategist
04:11 Leaving corporate after a health crisis and starting over
06:19 Why so many entrepreneurs struggle with profit
08:21 The key to more profit is doing better, not more
09:17 The first lever: creating your “Hell Yes” offer
13:25 How pricing and positioning change everything
17:16 Client example: the concert pianist who sold $30K in six weeks
21:41 Turning a low-ticket membership into a $120K cohort program
24:26 The second lever: add-ons and bundles
30:29 How tiered pricing can 2–3x your income
34:10 The third lever: reactivation—selling to warm leads again
37:46 The candle bar business that grew 76% year-over-year
43:10 The hidden cost of your energy and how to optimize it
46:54 Capturing contact info to reactivate clients
53:31 The fourth lever: referrals and the “plus one” SOP
59:10 Building referral systems into your business
01:03:00 Measuring results and optimizing every flywheel
01:10:00 Jessica’s worksheet to uncover hidden profit
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In this episode, I sit down with Erin Green, founder of Audacious Labs, to break down how to design a course that actually changes behavior.
Erin spent 15 years inside agencies building programs for IKEA, Google, and Amazon before developing her framework for turning expertise into transformative learning experiences. We dive deep into what makes most courses flop, how to create real outcomes for students, and how to use AI to design and validate better programs faster.
If you’re building a course or product that needs to deliver real results, this episode will show you exactly how to do it.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:45 Why most courses fail to create results
07:31 The five stages of Hook to Habit: Hook, Start, Build, Flow, Habit
11:22 Creating easy wins to build momentum
14:30 Feedback loops and building confidence
17:57 Flow and skill mastery
24:22 Using behavioral design to make learning stick
31:09 The power of pre-selling and running workshops
35:23 Designing your learning journey backwards
39:55 The importance of bad examples in learning
43:14 Why confidence comes before competence
47:32 Designing opportunities for practice and feedback
56:19 Using AI to organize and refine your ideas
01:04:37 Choosing the right platform and testing small
01:13:00 The biggest mistake course creators make
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Highlights:
09:12 – Why your competition isn’t other courses, it’s Netflix
14:30 – Building confidence through feedback loops
24:22 – Behavioral design tactics that make learning stick
56:19 – How to use AI to refine and structure your course ideas
In this special episode, I sit down with my friend Frannie Wilson to interview her for my new book "The Ladders of Wealth. We explore her journey of running Ampersand Studios for over 16 years and how she’s reinventing her business after buying out her longtime partner.
Instead of having the conversation over a cup of coffee, we decided to record one in the studio instead. We dive into what it takes to scale an agency without burning out, why delegating fulfillment is critical, and how Frannie is using systems, subcontractors, and culture-building to position her team for growth.
She shares lessons from managing people, creating replicable offers, and handling the challenges of sales, client retention, and leadership.
If you’re navigating the leap from founder-doer to CEO—or building a creative agency that lasts—this episode is packed with insights.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:15 Frannie’s 16-year journey with Ampersand
04:00 Buying out her business partner and reinventing
07:05 Balancing recurring revenue and one-off projects
10:30 Delegating fulfillment and avoiding bottlenecks
13:55 Building systems and hiring contractors
17:30 The role of values and culture in small teams
22:10 Lessons from managing people and avoiding drama
27:30 Productizing services vs. custom work
33:00 Smarter hiring with test projects
39:30 Landing and qualifying clients the right way
52:30 Retaining clients and handling tough situations
59:45 Final reflections and advice
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In this episode, I sit down with Lily Jones, founder of Educator Forever, for a coaching session to map out how she can scale her education business from $700K to $1M and beyond.
We dive into Lily’s unique flywheel that connects training teachers with agency work, why she’s hitting a growth plateau, and how focusing on sales could unlock her next stage.
Lily shares her journey from kindergarten teacher to entrepreneur, what she’s learned building two businesses in one, and how to prioritize growth without burning out.
If you’re looking to evolve a multi-offer business without splitting your focus, this episode is a blueprint.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:17 Lily’s backstory and why she left the classroom
04:43 From teacher to curriculum developer
07:15 How free classes built her first audience
10:26 Creating the Curriculum Development Foundations program
13:19 Building a two-sided business: teachers and agency
16:28 Mapping the Educator Forever flywheel
19:35 Revenue growth
23:05 Where the business plateaued and why
26:31 Increasing project size and repeat contracts
30:56 The case for hiring salespeople
34:20 Finding focus by niching down in K–5 curriculum
38:29 Exploring recurring and higher-paying projects
42:18 Selling into schools as a future growth path
46:55 Balancing opportunities with clear priorities
50:12 Building a long-term roadmap to $1.5M+
54:46 Takeaways and next steps
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In this episode, I sit down with Kristin Flanary, co-founder of the $1.2M Glaucomflecken brand, for a coaching session on how to scale to $10M by building systems, productized services, and new revenue streams.
We dive into Kristin’s unique journey blending healthcare satire, advocacy, and entrepreneurship, and map out how to grow beyond skits and sponsorships into licensing, joint ventures, and an agency model.
Kristin shares the challenges of balancing inbound opportunities, managing a lean team, and creating scalable offers that go beyond her and her husband’s personal involvement.
If you want to see how to scale a creator business from seven to eight figures without losing focus, this episode is for you.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:05 Kristin’s backstory: medicine, family, and near-death experiences
05:57 How comedy and satire became a business
07:01 Growing to 1.2M revenue with skits, podcasts, and shows
10:39 The big goal: scaling to $10M
14:01 Breaking down all current revenue streams
17:21 Skits as the foundation of the business
20:59 Building a small but mighty team
22:25 The dream hire: data and analytics
24:22 Exploring licensing and education opportunities
29:15 Managing inbound opportunities and “dreamer” ideas
33:32 The problem with too many projects at once
37:59 Sponsorships, keynotes, and cashflow challenges
43:25 Why a productized service or agency model could scale
48:55 Pricing tiers and the $3K vs $5K agency offer
52:04 How licensing and agency ideas connect
59:10 What the team would need to reach $1M in agency revenue
01:03:29 Recap and key takeaways
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In this episode, I share how creator flywheels can help you get greater results with less effort by turning scattered tasks into systems that compound over time.
I break down the three laws of flywheels, how to design them for your business, and examples that took my own projects from stalled growth to unstoppable momentum.
I also show how to measure and improve your flywheels with a simple weekly check-in, plus the exact flywheels that scaled Kit, my podcast, and top creators’ newsletters.
If you’ve been stuck in chaos or linear processes, this episode will show you the path to compounding growth.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 The three ways of running a business: scattered, linear, flywheel
02:43 The three laws of flywheels: flow, ease, growth
04:37 The Million Subscriber Flywheel (Sahil Bloom case study)
07:29 How sponsorships and reinvestment compound growth
10:02 How to measure flywheels in 15 minutes a week
13:04 The Direct Sales Flywheel that scaled Kit
16:23 Why concierge migrations unlocked growth
17:43 Real-world flywheels and compounding effort
18:21 The Podcast Production Flywheel
20:57 Fixing friction with tools and teleprompters
21:59 The five steps to building your own flywheel
23:40 Enrollment info for Creator Flywheels course
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In this episode, I share how creator flywheels can help you get greater results with less effort by turning scattered tasks into systems that compound over time.
I break down the three laws of flywheels, how to design them for your business, and examples that took my own projects from stalled growth to unstoppable momentum.
I also show how to measure and improve your flywheels with a simple weekly check-in, plus the exact flywheels that scaled Kit, my podcast, and top creators’ newsletters.
If you’ve been stuck in chaos or linear processes, this episode will show you the path to compounding growth.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 The three ways of running a business: scattered, linear, flywheel
02:43 The three laws of flywheels: flow, ease, growth
04:37 The Million Subscriber Flywheel (Sahil Bloom case study)
07:29 How sponsorships and reinvestment compound growth
10:02 How to measure flywheels in 15 minutes a week
13:04 The Direct Sales Flywheel that scaled Kit
16:23 Why concierge migrations unlocked growth
17:43 Real-world flywheels and compounding effort
18:21 The Podcast Production Flywheel
20:57 Fixing friction with tools and teleprompters
21:59 The five steps to building your own flywheel
23:40 Enrollment info for Creator Flywheels course
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In this episode, I sit down with Barrett Brooks, coach to some of the biggest creators in the industry, to break down the five traps that keep creators stuck below one million in revenue and how to avoid each one.
We talk about why search and algorithms are shifting, how to stop chasing “greener” business models, and why risk aversion quietly kills momentum.
Barrett also shares the patterns he sees working with top creators, how to double down on what’s working without burning out, and the mindset shift every entrepreneur must make to step into true leadership.
If you’re feeling stuck on the path to seven figures, this episode is your roadmap.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Why creators get stuck below $1M
04:43 Betting your business on what used to work
07:44 Search, AI, and the future of traffic
13:28 Believing another business model will be easier
18:55 The grass-is-greener trap explained
27:13 Letting risk aversion kill your momentum
33:49 Playing out the worst-case scenario
40:23 Moving on too fast from what is working
49:43 Building systems vs chasing new ideas
55:25 Hiring without stepping into leadership
01:03:16 How to lean into conflict and feedback
01:07:21 Final thoughts on breaking through
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In this episode, I sit down with Haley from the Kit team, to answer audience questions about building creator businesses, growing newsletters, and scaling software companies.
We cover everything from how to find a solo SaaS idea as a non-technical founder, to mapping out a creator business from scratch, to scaling newsletters and identifying blue ocean opportunities.
Haley also brings her behind-the-scenes perspective from working with creators at Kit.
If you want a practical look at audience growth, business models, and the future of creator tools, this episode has it all.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:08 Finding SaaS ideas as a non-technical founder
07:36 Mapping out a creator business from scratch
18:25 Building a music career today vs streaming revenue
22:58 The power of storytelling and setting public goals
29:18 Newsletter growth strategies and creator pods
35:54 Identifying blue oceans in crowded markets
41:58 Gathering customer feedback the right way
48:32 Choosing the right early hires in today’s AI-driven world
50:46 Biggest strategic mistakes and lessons learned
01:03:40 Wrap-up and reflections
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In this episode, I sit down with Ryan Beck, co-founder of Pray.com, a $30M platform reaching 10M people a month, to talk about his journey from jail at 18 to building one of the most impactful companies in the faith and creator space.
We dive into Ryan’s backstory, how he and his co-founders built Pray.com, and the systems churches use that modern creators can learn from. Ryan also shares lessons on building double flywheels, turning sermons into scalable content, and how AI is transforming faith-based media.
If you want to understand how to scale community, content, and revenue with timeless principles, this episode is for you.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Ryan’s journey from jail to a new path
05:15 Studying ministry, computer science, and philosophy
09:20 From nonprofits to launching Pray.com
13:05 How Pray.com scaled to 19M downloads
16:21 The double flywheel model of B2C and B2B
21:29 Pastors as the most prolific content creators
25:15 Derivative content and monetization strategies
29:41 What creators can learn from in-person community
34:10 Dave Ramsey and mission-driven business models
40:12 Evergreen content and repurposing systems
47:00 How Pray.com leverages AI for translation and media
55:10 Building AI Bible and reimagining storytelling
01:00:00 Why email is still the number one channel for creators
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In this episode, I sit down with Caitlin Copple for a coaching session to map out how she can scale her PR agency, Full Swing, from $1.2M to $5M by shifting from custom services to scalable productized offers.
We dive into why retainers cap growth, how to package services into clear visibility outcomes, and the low-overhead path to building a multi-million dollar agency.
Caitlin also shares the challenges of managing a team, navigating growth plateaus, and how to design offers that scale without burning out.
If you want to grow a services business into a scalable, strategy-first agency, this episode is a blueprint.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 The challenge of scaling a PR agency past $1M
05:28 Why retainers cap growth potential
09:22 Turning strategy into a scalable product
14:33 Building the first version of a productized offer
19:18 Pricing visibility outcomes instead of hours
23:41 The mindset shift for moving beyond custom services
28:05 Designing a low-overhead path to $5M
33:27 Structuring a scalable offer ladder
39:15 Simplifying client delivery without losing value
44:58 The role of personal brand in agency growth
50:10 How to transition clients from retainer to productized model
54:46 Setting up the systems to sustain scale
01:00:12 Final coaching takeaways
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In this episode, I sit down with Pat Flynn, entrepreneur, podcaster, and founder of Smart Passive Income, to talk about how creators can build long-term, resilient businesses by putting relationships and community first.
We dive into how Pat went from architect to online entrepreneur, his journey to building multiple 7-figure income streams, and why his approach has always focused on trust before transactions.
Pat also shares his lessons from podcasting for over a decade, how he’s embracing new platforms like YouTube Shorts, and his strategies for staying relevant in a fast-changing digital world.
If you want to build a creator business that stands the test of time, this episode is for you.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:00 How Pat went from architect to entrepreneur
06:28 Starting Smart Passive Income and finding his niche
10:45 The importance of serving before selling
15:14 Why Pat doubled down on podcasting
20:37 Building multiple streams of income
26:52 Lessons from over a decade of audience building
32:11 How to stay relevant as platforms evolve
38:09 Experimenting with YouTube Shorts and video content
43:25 Balancing family, business, and creative projects
49:18 The key to long-term audience trust
55:03 Final thoughts and takeaways
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In this episode, I sit down with Rose Griffin, founder of ABA Speech, to map out how she can scale her $210,000-a-year business serving speech therapists and BCBAs to over $1 million in annual revenue.
We break down how Rose grew a membership of 500 members, the unique value of offering continuing education credits, and how she can use group sales and direct outreach to grow faster.
Rose also shares her origin story of leaving traditional work to build a life of freedom and impact—and why seven figures represents more than just money for her.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
02:05 Rose’s journey from clinician to entrepreneur
06:15 Launching her first online product
11:20 How podcasting grew her audience and business
17:33 Balancing multiple revenue streams
23:12 Hiring and building support systems
30:40 Key lessons from scaling an online business
38:11 Managing time as a clinician and business owner
45:20 Tips for clinicians moving into entrepreneurship
52:04 Rose’s approach to marketing and visibility
59:10 Final advice for creators and clinicians
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In this episode, I sit down with Chris Donnelly to break down how he built a $10M-a-year business with no sales team and no paid ads—powered entirely by content and personal brand.
We dive into how Chris grew from 0 to 1M+ LinkedIn followers in two years, his system for publishing high-quality content at scale, and why creating more volume (not perfection) can unlock massive growth.
Chris also shares his approach to building a lean team, running high-ticket cohorts, and leveraging attention into stable, long-term income.
If you’ve been waiting to go all in on your personal brand, this episode shows you what’s possible.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:20 How Chris grew to 1M+ LinkedIn followers in 2 years
06:16 Choosing LinkedIn over Instagram and YouTube
10:35 The early experiments that validated his model
14:45 Selling his first agency and starting again
19:34 Building an audience without spending on ads
24:26 The structure behind his cohort business model
28:07 Why personal brand leads to better business opportunities
33:37 The content formats LinkedIn prioritizes today
38:12 How Chris structures his content team and systems
43:26 Lessons from growing a $10M business with no sales team
50:02 Advice for creators and entrepreneurs going pro
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Wake Up With Chris (Podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/4sFHI1CMPuKWa1brhhY9RB
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In this episode, I sit down with Jay Clouse, founder of Creator Science and one of the top thinkers in the creator economy, to talk about how to build sustainable memberships, price high-ticket offers, and stay ahead of AI disruption.
We dig into Jay’s insights from 250+ creator interviews, the future of online courses, and how group coaching programs quietly outperform larger audiences.
Jay shares the onboarding system behind his high-retention membership, how he scaled his Lab community, and why trust, not attention, is the metric that matters most in 2024.
If you want to grow a stable, high-leverage creator business, this is a masterclass.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:20 Why AI is going to disrupt course creators
03:42 Hyper-personalized learning vs static curriculum
07:11 What to build next if courses are dying
10:47 Rethinking memberships and peer-to-peer communities
17:21 Pricing for renewal instead of first-year sales
22:04 Why he removed the member cap
25:30 Objective criteria for curating communities
27:00 Who earns the most per follower
30:39 Done-for-you vs group coaching vs DIY
34:32 Building sticky products that actually retain
39:04 The onboarding system behind Jay’s community
46:57 Keeping members engaged after 6 months
50:54 Building habit loops and true community
54:20 Why in-person events are now a priority
58:03 Being authentic when you’re always “on”
01:00:53 Don’t optimize for attention—optimize for trust
01:02:28 Where to follow Jay
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Creator Science: https://www.creatorscience.com
The Lab: https://join.creatorscience.com
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In this episode, I sit down with Jefferson Fisher—trial lawyer, bestselling author, and communication expert with over 12 million followers—to map out a clear, balanced path to $10 million a year in revenue.
We dive into Jefferson’s wide range of business assets including his podcast, newsletter, book, speaking, AI product, and fast-growing membership.
Then we break down exactly what to prioritize, how to build the right team, and what he needs to stop doing to scale without burning out.
Whether you’re a fast-growing creator or a business owner looking for leverage and balance, this is a blueprint.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:08 Jefferson’s growth from zero to 6M Instagram followers
03:22 Mapping all his revenue channels
06:08 His speaking fees, membership size, and podcast numbers
09:28 Balancing business growth with family time
13:24 The hidden cost of daily content creation
18:25 How batching could change Jefferson’s life
22:32 The power of speaking as leverage
25:31 Planning for $10M while staying present at home
30:34 The surprising value of Jefferson’s DMs
36:04 Why the membership is the biggest opportunity
42:17 Automating conversions with his newsletter
47:44 Building a team to scale
53:19 The role Jefferson should hire next
57:08 Balancing brand vision with freedom
01:04:11 Why we’re pausing the course idea (for now)
01:11:03 Wrapping with Jefferson’s biggest takeaways
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The Next Conversation (book): https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book
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Civility (his company): https://www.jeffersonfisher.com
Kit: https://www.kit.com
In this episode, I sit down with Tim Grahl to map out how he broke through a 3-year business plateau and scaled his education company from $695K to over $2M.
We unpack how Tim made the leap by completely rebuilding his business model, delivering better outcomes for students, and building a variable-cost team that scales with revenue.
He also shares how he ran 600+ customer interviews, built a coaching program around accountability, and used YouTube and SparkLoop to drive steady growth.
If you’re stuck at a growth ceiling, this episode is a blueprint for getting unstuck.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:13 Breaking through the $1M ceiling
03:12 Revenue history from 2021 to 2024
06:37 The wake-up call promotion
08:00 600 customer interviews in 18 months
12:24 The mindset shift that changed everything
13:03 Why Tim rebuilt the entire business model
17:55 Forecasts vs. goals
20:36 Profit margin and personal runway
23:15 Why most courses don’t deliver transformation
25:18 How Story Grid’s coaching model works
30:08 Team structure and mentor compensation
34:10 Pricing strategy and program design
35:18 Using SparkLoop and YouTube to grow leads
38:02 Tim’s content process and YouTube habits
43:07 The emotional dip before the breakthrough
47:18 Burnout, self-doubt, and freight train focus
51:22 Why building a team unlocked freedom
57:11 Hiring mindset and building lean
01:00:12 The path from 2M to 5M and beyond
01:03:40 The power of product-market fit
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Story Grid: https://www.storygrid.com
The Shithead (book): https://www.storygrid.com/product/the-shithead
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In this episode, I sit down with Anne-Laure Le Cunff, neuroscientist, creator, and author of Tiny Experiments, to explore how mindful productivity and scientific thinking can unlock calm, sustainable growth.
We talk about how Anne-Laure built a $250K business while finishing her PhD, her process for designing mental health systems, and why most creators burn out by obsessing over goals.
She shares how tiny experiments, not big plans, led to her success—and why every creator should learn to reflect, quit intentionally, and listen to stress as a signal.
If you want to grow without burning out, this is a masterclass.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:12 Why tiny experiments beat big goals
03:15 Action vs reflection for creator growth
06:05 Quitting YouTube—and why it was the right choice
10:16 Helping your team feel safe to fail
14:07 Designing your own experiment formula
19:13 Breaking the cycle of goal obsession
22:42 The “maximize brain” and how to avoid it
32:22 How Anne-Laure earned $250K working part time
38:00 The business flywheel hidden inside her $49 community
46:57 Building systems for mental health
53:20 Good stress vs bad stress
58:00 Her simple content repurposing system
01:00:49 Final advice for goal-setters
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Tiny Experiments (book): https://nesslabs.com/book
Ness Labs: https://www.nestlabs.com
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In this episode, I sit down with Jefferson Fisher, a trial attorney turned content creator with 6 million Instagram followers, to break down how he built one of the fastest-growing personal brands on social media while running a thriving law firm.
We dive into Jefferson’s content strategy, how he holds attention in 3 seconds, and the exact process behind his viral car videos. Jefferson also shares why attention spans are shrinking, what most creators get wrong in their first 3 seconds, and how he turned daily 40-minute sessions into millions of views and a bestselling book.
If you want to build a magnetic personal brand while staying authentic, this is a masterclass.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 Gaining 100,000 followers a day
03:30 How Jefferson built a viral content style
06:02 The first million-view video
09:10 The full content process from idea to post
12:30 How Jefferson hooks viewers in 3 seconds
15:18 The most important metric for content success
18:17 Building trust and impact with short form
22:01 Optimizing content structure and retention
25:46 How social content transformed Jefferson’s law practice
33:30 How his social presence influences legal cases
39:23 How Jefferson balances practice with content
42:21 Maintaining authenticity across all platforms
46:00 Inside Jefferson’s podcast strategy
53:44 Book launch lessons and viral drivers
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The Next Conversation (book): https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/book
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In this episode, I sit down with Dan Martell—bestselling author of Buy Back Your Time and investor in over 50 companies—to break down the mindset and systems founders need to scale without burning out.
We dive into Dan’s Buyback Loop, his process for delegating and training a team, and how creators can turn a single piece of content into millions of impressions.
Dan also shares why most entrepreneurs hire in the wrong order, how to build systems that run without you, and how he’s using keynotes and content to grow his coaching and education business.
If you want more freedom while growing faster, this is a masterclass.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:05 Why Dan went all in on content
03:32 From marketing department to media company
10:50 Dan’s 3-part Buyback Loop
14:30 How Dan offloads and trains his team
22:00 The Buyback Ladder: audit, transfer, fill
33:37 The Replacement Ladder (who to hire first)
42:51 How Dan makes money while offline
50:03 Behind Dan’s education and coaching business
53:44 Dan’s full media strategy
57:42 Final advice for creators going pro
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