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The Better With Books Podcast
Kate Hollis
20 episodes
4 days ago
Better With Books is a podcast for entrepreneurs looking to bridge the gap between reading for business and reading for fun! Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - each Friday to discuss a new work of fiction or creative nonfiction. Come away with meaningful, actionable insights into yourself, your clients, and your business.
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Better With Books is a podcast for entrepreneurs looking to bridge the gap between reading for business and reading for fun! Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - each Friday to discuss a new work of fiction or creative nonfiction. Come away with meaningful, actionable insights into yourself, your clients, and your business.
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The Better With Books Podcast
#20: Do Your Clients Love You Back? - Featuring "Dog Man and Cat Kid" by Dav Pilkey

It goes without saying that you love your clients.

But are you focused so much on the quality of your service or product that you're focusing less on the relationship?


Our inspiration in this episode is a childrens' graphic novel - "Dog Man and Cat Kid" by Dav Pilkey.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- What are your clients thinking about when they have to cut costs?

- Are your "easy" clients getting the same attention as your other clients?

- Where do boundaries get blurred between friendship and business?

- Are you clear on your policies, and when are you willing to make exceptions?


Purchase this title through my affiliate link on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bookshop.org.⁠

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1 year ago
29 minutes 37 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#19: Inspiring Strong Reactions through Sales Copy - Featuring "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson

Sales copy is necessary for businesses of ALL kinds.


But how can you make an impression AND make the sale?


Our inspiration in this episode is a horror novel - "The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- How can you pace your narrative for the most impact?

- Why does some copy make an impression, but some falls flat?

- How can your reader see themselves in your copy?

- Do readers experience your content on a physiological level?


Purchase this title through my affiliate link on ⁠⁠⁠Bookshop.org.

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2 years ago
27 minutes 54 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#18: Acting with Integrity During Times of Conflict - Featuring "Olga Dies Dreaming" by Xochitl Gonzalez

There's so much pain and loss in the world right now.


As a business owner - and as a human - how can you respond in a way that feels right to you?


Our inspiration in this episode is a novel - "Olga Dies Dreaming" by Xochitl Gonzalez.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- Is there more than one definition of integrity?

- How are we impacted by the narratives and values of other people?

- What does it cost us to act in a way that doesn't align with our true selves?

- How can we show up during a time of crisis in the most impactful, heartfelt way?


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on ⁠Amazon⁠ or ⁠My Bookshop.org storefront⁠.

Another title suggested in the episode is The Way of Integrity by Martha Beck.


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⁠Book your Sales SOS session⁠ with Kate and Nichole Chapais of Stargazer Creative. Limited spots available!


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2 years ago
27 minutes 34 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#17 - How Book Bans Impact Your Business - Featuring "Our Missing Hearts" by Celeste Ng

It's Banned Books Week - and we're talking about how banned books impact WAY more than you might think.

That includes your business!


Our inspiration in this episode is a dystopian novel - "Our Missing Hearts" by Celeste Ng.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- What do book bans tell us our our culture and society?

- Are we impacted by a culture of fear without even realizing it?

- How can we use our businesses as a platform to support free speech?

- How can we support authors and the creative economy?


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront

Suggest a title, or become a guest! www.katehollis.co/podcast


Book your Sales SOS session with Kate and Nichole Chapais of Stargazer Creative. Limited spots available!


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
27 minutes

The Better With Books Podcast
#16: Age in Entrepreneur Culture - Featuring "The Old Woman with the Knife" by Gu Byeong-Mo

Conversations around inclusion - race, gender, disability, and more - have become the norm in entrepreneurship. But why is no one talking about age?

Ageism is definitely out there, and many brands unintentionally perpetuate stereotypes in their messaging. So what can you do about it?

Our inspiration in this episode is a thriller novel - "The Old Woman With the Knife" by Gu Byeong-mo.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- What commonly used words reinforce ageism?

- How do stereotypes show up in messaging?

- Is there an expectation that older entrepreneurs work with older clients?

- Why does age make people uncomfortable?


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront

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2 years ago
28 minutes 13 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#15: Handling Hesitant Buyers - Featuring "A Touch of Darkness" by Scarlett St. Clair

We've all been there. You're THISCLOSE to a sale, but your lead is hesitant to commit.

A certain amount of push-and-pull is healthy ... but how can you break the cycle when it's a client you KNOW you can help? What steps can you take in your brand and sales process to minimize this happening?


Our inspiration in this episode is a fantasy/romance novel - "A Touch of Darkness" by Scarlett St. Clair.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- Communicating with a lead that is shopping around

- Where your overall brand and visibility come into play in the sales cycle

- The value of showing the human behind the brand

- When overconfidence can come back to bite you


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront

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2 years ago
25 minutes 42 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#14: What It Means to Show Up for Your Clients - Featuring "Memphis" by Tara Stringfellow

Showing up online. Showing up in the world.


Lots of talk in the online business world about "showing up" - but what does that really mean? And do you want it to mean something else for yourself?


Our inspiration in this episode is a novel - "Memphis" by Tara Stringfellow.

Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business.


Topics covered include:

- What are common uses for the phrase "showing up"?

- Thinking about the individual and the collective

- How to be in service to others

- Living your values through your biz and client experience


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront

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2 years ago
22 minutes 29 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#13: Heroes & Villains in Marketing - Featuring "Belonging: A German Reckons With History and Home" by Nora Krug

Ah, the hero's journey. We see it ALL the time in marketing.


But with a hero has to come a villain. And is creating one accomplishing what we want when it comes to building a brand and making sales?


Our inspiration in this episode is a graphic memoir - "Belonging: A German Reckons With History and Home" by Nora Krug.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


- Where does the hero's journey narrative come from?

- Can we really say anyone is a straightforward hero or villain?

- How is your audience effected when the villain is within themselves?

- Is looking to mythology a way to avoid the real and the messy?


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


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2 years ago
24 minutes 41 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#12: Trigger Warnings! (Are What This Episode is About) - Featuring "The Reading List" by Sarah Nisha Adams

We've all seen 'em. Those two letters - TW - at the beginning of a post, indicating a potentially sensitive topic.


But are they helpful, or even necessary? And more importantly, what does it mean for our brand and our messaging if we use them?


Our inspiration in this episode is a novel - "The Reading List" by Sarah Nisha Adams.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


- How does a trigger warning impact the reader's experience of your brand?

- Is it overstepping to influence or control someone's reaction to your content?

- When do trigger warnings serve a genuine purpose, and when are they an avoidance technique?

- How can we reflect on our own feelings about our story so our audience can see themselves in it?


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


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2 years ago
21 minutes 16 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#11: Selling Transformation - Featuring "The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane" by Kate DiCamillo

When you're selling a product or a service, you're not just selling The Thing. You're selling the feeling and experience the customer can expect in making the purchase.


In the online business world, many brands sell transformation - helping people to make strides to change themselves and their lives. But what does it truly mean to change? And are you selling to it accordingly?


Our inspiration in this episode is a children's book - "The Miraculous Journey of Edward Tulane" by Kate DiCamillo.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


- Identifying the role of circumstances in someone's ability to achieve change

- Using the Enneagram as a tool for growth

-Differentiating between external behaviors and true internal transformation

- Exploring if change introduces something new, or brings out things that haven't been discovered


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
27 minutes 24 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#10: When Original Ideas Aren't So Original - Featuring "The Plot" by Jean Hanff Korelitz

Having original ideas is critical for success as an entrepreneur. After all, our livelihood depends on someone choosing our business over another one offering something similar.


But is originality is straightforward concept? What happens if we're inspired by someone else's work, or vice versa?


Our inspiration in this episode is a suspense novel - "The Plot" by Jean Hanff Korelitz.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


- How to proceed when a competitor has an offer you'd like to replicate

- When false perceptions - both our own and others' - get in the way

- What to do when you think someone has taken your original idea

- Learning and growing from moments of insecurity


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
30 minutes 10 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#9: The Unseen Costs of Growing a Business - Featuring "Saturday Night at the Lakeside Supper Club" by J. Ryan Stradal

For many entrepreneurs, achieving growth is a major goal. It's also a widespread focus of many online programs and thought leaders.


But is growing and scaling your business always the right move? And is it one of the most important markers of success ... especially when it comes at a cost to other areas of your life?


Our inspiration in this episode is a novel - "Saturday Night at the Lakeside Supper Club" by J. Ryan Stradal.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


- The unseen impacts of growing and scaling a business in a capitalist culture

- The role of white privilege, mental health, disabilities, and caregiver responsibilities in our work

- When to question if your biz is working for you - even if it's performing well

- How important it is to pause and question predominant messaging in the entrepreneur world

Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
24 minutes 13 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#8: Using Humor in Your Brand - Featuring "Bubble" by Jordan Morris & Sarah Morgan

Who doesn't love a good laugh, right? Some of the most popular and memorable brands out there take this idea and run with it - using humor to effectively engage their audiences and sell their products.


But what kinds of humor are there, and can they all be used successfully in marketing? What does it look like when it works well ... and when it doesn't?

Our inspiration in this episode is a graphic novel and satire- "Bubble" by Jordan Morris & Sarah Morgan.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-How to use satire and parody to make a statement

- Examples of brands who do this really well

-Ways to use humor to inspire trust and confidence

-The downsides of using snark in your messaging




Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


And check out my friend Judi Harrington's book, mentioned in this episode: on Amazon and " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Bookshop.org.


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2 years ago
27 minutes 39 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#7: Boundaries in Social Media - Featuring "A Better Man" by Louise Penny

Social media plays a central role in many of our lives and businesses. But in a crowded digital space, it's easy for lines to get blurred and to assume that others use and experience social media in the same ways we do ourselves.

Where is that line, and how can we be thoughtful in how we use our content and sales strategy to engage with others in this space?


Our inspiration in this episode is a mystery novel - "A Better Man" by Louise Penny.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-The concept of social media accounts as private space

-What are cognitive biases and where do they show up in our work

-How to use your social media content to sell without being overly promotional

-Developing the mental muscle to pick up on small details and inspiration in works of fiction


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Or start with the first book in the series, "Still Life" - on Amazon or " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Bookshop.org.


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2 years ago
24 minutes 38 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#6: Welcoming Whimsy Into Your Life & Brand - Featuring "The House in the Cerulean Sea" by TJ Klune

Time is precious when you're an entrepreneur. So whether you're working or enjoying leisure time, chances are whatever you're doing has a specific, practical purpose. But what do we lose in the process? Allowing ourselves moments of enchantment and pure joy.


Our inspiration in this episode is a fantasy novel - "The House in the Cerulean Sea" by TJ Klune.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-The perspective shift you get from hanging out with children

-What happens when you let yourself embrace the wonderfully weird

-Unconventional ideas for client gifting and content topics

-How to walk the line between whimsical and irreverent


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
25 minutes 22 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#5: Slow Burn Sales - Featuring "Part of Your World" by Abby Jimenez

We're often told to keep our copy short and sweet - to just get to the point. And that works ... sometimes. But NOT for everyone in your audience. Done right, longer-form content is just as (if not more) effective than copy without a strong narrative structure and gradual build.


Our inspiration is a romance novel - "Part of Your World" by Abby Jimenez.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-How typical sales strategies are written by and for the male perspective

-That longer, thoughtful content fosters trust and rapport

-When a formulaic approach is actually a good thing

-That women's perception and buying power are not to be underestimated


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www.katehollis.co

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2 years ago
25 minutes 23 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#4: Secrecy in Marketing - Featuring "The Chicken Sisters" by KJ Dell'Antonia

How often have you read "I'm going to let you in on a secret" or "what's your secret sauce?" in mainstream marketing?


Once I started paying attention, I started noticing the word 'secret" ALL over the place. In this episode, we're talking about what it means to invoke secrecy in your messaging - and if it's accomplishing what you think it is.

Our inspiration is a novel - "The Chicken Sisters" by KJ Dell'Antonia.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-When secrets aren't actually secrets

-The importance of transparency

-Being aware of unintended consequences of certain word choices

-What is trauma-informed marketing


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


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2 years ago
28 minutes 27 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#3: Innovation vs. Demand - Featuring "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" by Gabrielle Zevin

When creating your offers, where do you find yourself drawn first -- to create and innovate, or to respond to a need in the market?


In this episode, we're talking about how to find the right balance between creating offers that excite you AND that are data-driven.


Our inspiration is a novel - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" by Gabrielle Zevin.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-The complexities of having co-founders who are also friends

-The impact of disabilities and mental health on entrepreneurs

-Different approaches to offer creation

-Balancing creativity with the realities of running a business


Purchase this title through my affiliate links on Amazon or My Bookshop.org storefront


Kate's copywriting - www. katehollis.co

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2 years ago
18 minutes 25 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#2: Navigating Personality in Business - Featuring "Our Woman in Moscow" by Beatriz Williams

Personality is paramount in the word of online business. But does it reflect who we truly are?


In this episode we're discussing how to navigate personality in business - our own AND our clients'. Our inspiration is a work of historical fiction - "Our Woman in Moscow" by Beatriz Williams.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-Using the Enneagram as a framework for growth

-Foundations for brand identity

-Self awareness in sales messaging

-Using characters to explore our ideal client profile


Purchase the titles through my affiliate links:

Amazon - Our Woman in Moscow:

Amazon - Wisdom of the Enneagram

My Bookshop.org storefront


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2 years ago
23 minutes 54 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
#1: Where Business & Books Meet - Featuring "The Ten Thousand Doors of January" by Alix Harrow

Reading to benefit your business usually means reading books ABOUT business.


This podcast will inspire you to think -- and read! -- differently.


In this episode we're discussing how to broaden our perspective so that we find rich, meaningful learnings from books of ALL kinds.


Our inspiration for this first episode is a fantasy novel - "The Ten Thousand Doors of January" by Alix Harrow.


Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - for an exploration of fiction as a way to gain actionable insight into business. Topics covered include:


-The line we draw between business and the rest of our lives

-Learning based in curiosity and discovery

-Shifting perspective to view works of fiction as relevant to our work as entrepreneurs

- Allowing more magic and playfulness into how we live and work


Purchase the book through my affiliate links at Amazon and Bookshop.org.



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2 years ago
24 minutes 50 seconds

The Better With Books Podcast
Better With Books is a podcast for entrepreneurs looking to bridge the gap between reading for business and reading for fun! Join host Kate Hollis - conversion copywriter and part-time librarian - each Friday to discuss a new work of fiction or creative nonfiction. Come away with meaningful, actionable insights into yourself, your clients, and your business.