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Marketing Deconstructed
Marketing Deconstructed
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6 days ago
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Marketing Deconstructed
The LinkedIn Playbook for Executives: Data-Backed Strategies with Justin Nassiri

LinkedIn isn’t just a resume site anymore; it’s the #1 platform for building trust, expanding your network, and driving real business growth.

In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, host Ali Schwanke sits down with Justin Nassiri, founder of Executive Presence, to break down how executives, founders, and sales leaders can create a LinkedIn strategy that actually works.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why email outreach is losing its edge and how to use LinkedIn for genuine, trust-building conversations
  • How to transform your profile into a 24/7 sales funnel
  • How to use commenting strategically to grow your influence (and even get clients)
  • Why consistency matters more than perfection when posting

  • Resources From This Episode:

    The LinkedIn Playbook for Modern CEOs: https://executivepresence.io/ebook/2025-linkedin-playbook-for-modern-ceos/


    Executive Presence: https://executivepresence.io/


    Connect with Justin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinnassiri/



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    2 months ago
    43 minutes 9 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    The Shortlist Method: Why 14 Interactions Beat 100 Touches Every Time

    Let’s face it: business development often feels like a mystery, and for service providers, it can feel downright uncomfortable.


    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Ali Schwanke talks with David Ackert, author of The Shortlist and CEO of PipelinePlus, to explore why traditional business development is broken and how professionals can build a more authentic, consistent, and scalable system for growth.


    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    • The Real Difference Between a Touch and an Interaction
    • How to Build and Manage a “Shortlist”
    • 40 Follow-Up Tactics That Aren’t “Just Checking In”

    __________

    The Short List: How to Drive Business Development by Focusing on the People Who Matter Most: https://www.amazon.com/Short-List-Business-Development-Focusing/dp/B0DCQ2Q8MS


    PipelinePlus: https://pipelineplus.com/


    Connect with David on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidackert/

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    3 months ago
    34 minutes 4 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    How to Sell to Skeptical Technical Buyers: Building Trust with Content

    How do you earn the trust of technical buyers who are skeptical, logical, and allergic to marketing fluff?


    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Ali Schwanke sits down with Anthony Garone, co-founder of Edify Content, to break down exactly how to communicate with technical audiences.


    Anthony shares:

    • How AI has permanently changed content marketing
    • The 5 critical things your content must include to sell to technical personalities
    • The surprising mistakes most companies make that kill deals late in the sales process
    • Real-world tactics for speeding up sales cycles with better content (like security pages, architecture diagrams, and more!)


    __________

    Better Sales Content with Anthony: https://bettersalescontent.com/


    Check out Edify Content: https://edifycontent.com/


    Make Weird Music: https://www.makeweirdmusic.com/


    Work with Anthony: https://anthonygarone.com/


    Connect with Anthony on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonygarone/

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    6 months ago
    39 minutes 22 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Inside the 2025 Content Report with Josh Spilker of AirOps

    How are content teams really adapting to AI in 2025?

    Join Ali Schwanke and Josh Spilker, Content & SEO Lead at AirOps, as they unpack the latest insights from the State of Content Teams 2025 report.

    Based on findings from 144 content leaders, this episode explores the future of AI in content workflows, why answer engine optimization (AEO) is rising, and how roles like the content engineer are reshaping what high-performing teams look like.

    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    • The 4 stages of AI adoption and why only 17% of teams have fully integrated AI
    • How AI can reduce bottlenecks in research, ideation, and approvals
    • The rise of the “Content Engineer” and why every team will need one
    • A fresh look at content metrics in a zero-click, AI-driven world
    • Why AEO matters now—and how to optimize for it

    __________

    State of Content Teams Report 2025: https://www.airops.com/


    Check out the Descript Case Study: https://www.airops.com/blog/descript-drives-35-organic-traffic-growth-with-content-refresh-workflows


    Explore AirOps Academy: https://www.airops.com/academy


    Connect with Josh on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshspilker/

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    6 months ago
    24 minutes 45 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    From Referrals to Revenue: Building a Scalable Sales Funnel with Jason Pearl

    Struggling to grow beyond word-of-mouth and referrals? Ali sits down with Jason Pearl, founder of Nacre Consulting, to unpack the journey from unpredictable referrals to a scalable, trackable sales funnel—and how HubSpot played a key role in that transition.

    Jason shares practical frameworks for overcoming growth ceilings, defining your ICP, creating a sales playbook, and building a reliable revenue engine for SMBs.

    Learn how to avoid being too reliant on referrals, the metrics that matter, and why your delivery needs to match your marketing message.


    More key takeaways from this episode include:

    • The danger of relying solely on referrals for growth
    • How to build your first scalable sales funnel
    • Key metrics to track inside HubSpot
    • Why GTM (Go-to-Market) strategy isn’t just for SaaS
    • How Jason tracks and automates referral sources
    • The power of productizing your services

    __________

    Nacre Consulting: https://www.nacreconsulting.com/


    Follow Jason on X: https://x.com/jasonmpearl


    Connect with Jason on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmpearl/

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    7 months ago
    33 minutes 30 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    The Two Types of Content Every Business Needs to Grow with Erik Jacobsen

    Content marketing is changing—are you keeping up? The old model of creating SEO-driven content designed for search engines is no longer enough. Today, successful businesses are winning by creating content designed for scrollers, not searchers.


    In this episode, we sit down with Erik Jacobson, CEO of Hatch and host of 95% Content, to talk about the two essential types of content every business needs:


    1. Brand Awareness Content (Attention-Driven) – Content that grabs attention and makes sure people recognize your name.

    2. Demand Creation Content (Intention-Driven) – Content that builds trust, educates, and ensures your brand is top-of-mind when customers are ready to buy.


    More key takeaways from this episode include:

    • The “Shortlist Effect”: When buyers finally decide they need a solution, they already have a list of brands they trust. How do you make sure you're on it?
    • Why B2B content isn’t boring, but your strategy might be: Erik breaks down why expertise and storytelling make all the difference.
    • How to repurpose content like a pro: You don’t need to start from scratch. Erik shares cheat codes for turning existing conversations, calls, and internal knowledge into high-impact content.
    • The power of teaching-based marketing: Content that helps and educates is the best sales tool you have.


    Want to stand out in today’s saturated content landscape? This episode will show you how to simplify your content strategy and start generating real business results.

    __________

    Visit Hatch: https://www.hatch.fm/


    Listen to 95% Content:

    https://open.spotify.com/show/45MRFs9GEwJsXHtJSUByrs?si=3a3b222f1d3641b2


    Connect with Erik Jacobson on LinkedIn:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-jacobson-hatch/

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    7 months ago
    42 minutes 27 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    The 80/20 Rule of Sales Success: Finding Your Blue-Chip Clients

    Is your business stuck because you’re the only one who can close deals? In this episode, Ali Schwanke interviews Scott Peterson, author of Beyond the Founder Rainmaker, to break down why so many founder-led companies struggle to build a successful sales team.


    Scott shares his Revenue Compass methodology, revealing how to identify blue-chip clients, avoid dirty money, and build a repeatable sales process that scales beyond the founder.


    We also discuss:

    • Why 20% of clients generate 80% of revenue (and what to do about it)
    • How to transition from networking-based sales to a scalable strategy
    • Using LinkedIn and CRM tools like HubSpot Playbooks to operationalize sales
    • The surprising way marketing and sales misalignment can tank revenue


    Take Scott’s free Revenue Compass Assessment: https://www.carverpeterson.com/

    Read Scott's Book, "Beyond The Founder Rainmaker: Build Your Blue Chips Sales Strategy"https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Founder-Rainmaker-Build-Strategy/dp/B0DXF6ML6K

    Connect with Scott Peterson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carverpeterson/

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    7 months ago
    47 minutes

    Marketing Deconstructed
    How to generate & execute your BEST creative ideas

    Want to unlock game-changing creative ideas?


    Ali Schwanke sits down with Craig Mangan to talk about the science behind creative thinking, idea generation, and how to avoid the dreaded “Swoop and Poop” that kills great ideas.


    Craig shares his proven frameworks, including Jealous Inspiration Sessions, Worst First, and Crazy Eights, to help teams unlock their best ideas while navigating workplace politics.


    Key Takeaways from This Episode:

    • Why “having good ideas” isn’t the real problem—momentum is
    • How to use proven exercises to spark originality
    • What happens when executives swoop in last-minute with unexpected feedback—and how to prevent it before it kills your best ideas


    This episode is packed with actionable insights to level up your strategy.


    Connect with Craig Mangan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigmangan/

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    8 months ago
    33 minutes 47 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    The Future of Go-To-Market: Storytelling, Relationships & Partnerships

    The hardest thing in marketing today? Attention.

    It’s easier than ever to start a company and build a product, but getting attention? That’s the real challenge.

    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Mark Kilens, CEO & Co-Founder of TACK, reveals why the traditional go-to-market playbook is outdated, and how companies need to shift toward a People-Led GTM strategy to thrive.

    What you'll learn in this episode:

    • The core of people-led GTM: Why relationships, storytelling, and partnerships matter more than ever
    • The death of brand-led content: How consumer trust has shifted from brands to individuals
    • The new GTM channels: Why community-driven content, zero-click strategies, and direct audience engagement outperform traditional methods
    • AI’s role in GTM: What works, what doesn’t, and how to avoid automation mistakes


    The bottom line? If your cost per acquisition is rising, conversion rates are dropping, and traditional marketing feels less effective, this episode is for you.

    __________

    Check out Mark's Marketing Leadership Mastermind:

    https://www.tackgtm.com/marketing-leadership-mastermind


    Learn more about TACK: https://www.tackgtm.com/


    Join the TACK Network: https://www.tackinsider.com/


    Connect with Mark Kilens on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markkilens/

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    8 months ago
    42 minutes 40 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Fast-Moving Marketing Teams Have This in Common (And It’s Not Hustle)

    What if the secret to accelerating marketing growth was actually slowing down?


    In this episode, operations educator Jen Bergren joins Ali Schwanke to reveal the counterintuitive truth: fast-moving marketing teams thrive because they prioritize documentation.


    Discover how the "move fast and break things" mindset can sabotage growth—and how simple, strategic documentation can be your competitive edge.


    Learn how to:

    • Build a culture of documentation that accelerates execution
    • Identify and eliminate hidden process bottlenecks
    • Use project management tools to create momentum, not meetings
    • Create MVP-level documentation that evolves with your growth


    Whether you're an overwhelmed marketer or a leader seeking scalable growth, this episode will change the way you think about speed.

    __________

    Explore Jen's Courses: https://www.jenbergren.com/courses


    Join the MarketingOps Community: https://marketingops.com/


    Connect with Jen Bergren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenbergren/

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    8 months ago
    30 minutes 2 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Generating leads in RECORD TIME - or not? Featuring Dan Gershenson

    Every marketing team has heard it: “We need more leads—and fast.” But is your business focusing too much on immediate lead gen while neglecting brand strategy?


    In this episode, Dan Gershenson, founder of High Caliber Branding, breaks down why lead generation and brand strategy often get confused—and how that confusion can cost you real growth.


    What we cover:

    • How to properly qualify leads
    • The impact of brand positioning
    • Why your marketing problem might not be a marketing problem at all


    Plus, insights on how AI and business intelligence tools are changing the game. Don't miss this deep dive into smarter, more strategic marketing!

    __________

    Check out High Caliber Branding: https://www.highcaliberbranding.com/


    Duct Tape Marketing Network: https://ducttapemarketing.com/


    Connect with Dan Gershenson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dangershenson/

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    8 months ago
    42 minutes 44 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Everything you wanted to know about SEO (but were too afraid to ask)

    SEO isn't what it used to be. If you're still following outdated tactics, Google has already moved on—and so should you! In this episode, Mordy Oberstein breaks down everything marketers and business owners need to know about modern SEO. Whether you're struggling with indexing, ranking, or content strategy, this episode will give you actionable insights that actually work.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • How to Get Indexed Faster: The must-have tool (Google Search Console) and key technical fixes.
    • Google’s AI & Machine Learning Impact: Why search results are shifting and what it means for your strategy.
    • Content Strategy That Works: Why pillar-cluster models might not be the golden ticket anymore.
    • Leveraging Image SEO: How properly optimized images can bring in more organic traffic than you think.
    • Ranking vs. Conversions: Why vanity metrics (rankings) don’t always equal real business impact.

    Mordy also shares insights from the Google API leak, revealing how Google actually evaluates your site’s authority. Check out Traffic Think Tank: https://trafficthinktank.com/ The SERP's Up Podcast: https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/podcast Connect with Mordy Oberstein on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mordyoberstein/

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    9 months ago
    38 minutes 1 second

    Marketing Deconstructed
    How to Sell with Purpose and Avoid Burnout: A Sales Masterclass with Jordan Benjamin

    When it comes to sales success, it’s easy to fall into the trap of hustle culture and endless grinding. But what if there was a better way?


    In this episode, Ali Schwanke sits down with Jordan Benjamin, a peak performance sales coach and former HubSpotter, to explore the power of purposeful systems, emotional intelligence, and mindful habits in achieving lasting sales success.


    Key insights include:

    • Why empathy and emotion are essential to successful selling
    • How to create purposeful systems to build habits and stay consistent
    • The importance of rest and mindfulness in achieving peak performance


    Check out My Core OS: https://www.mycoreos.com/


    Connect with Jordan Benjamin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanbenjamin/

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    9 months ago
    37 minutes 22 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Mastering Podcast Ads: 3 Strategies for Niche Targeting and ROI with Kerry Tracy

    Discover the untapped power of podcast advertising! 🚀 In this episode, Ali Schwanke is joined by Kerry Tracy to explore why podcasting is an ideal advertising channel for SMBs and brands. Learn how to target niche audiences effectively, understand the three types of podcast ads, and discover how the 40/40/20 rule drives results. Kerry also shares insights on leveraging tools like dynamic ad insertion (DAI) for timely campaigns and how to test podcast advertising on any budget. Check out the Podbean Advertising Guide: https://www.podbean.com/advertising Connect with Kerry Tracy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerrytracy/

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    9 months ago
    39 minutes 52 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    From $20M to $150M: The Proven Power of Niche Marketing with Corey Quinn

    Unlock the secret to escaping founder-led sales and scaling your business with clarity and precision!

    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Ali Schwanke chats with Corey Quinn—author of Anyone, Not Everyone and host of The Deep Specialization™ Podcast.

    Discover how vertical specialization transformed Corey’s business journey, helping companies scale from $20M to $150M in annual revenue.

    Learn how to:

    Use a marketing opportunity calculator to analyze verticals Identify the two paths to specialization: industry vs. service Overcome founder-led sales with actionable frameworks


    This episode is packed with case studies, insights, and tools to help you niche down and grow.

    Plus, Corey shares a special offer for a free copy of his book!


    Get Corey’s Book: ⁠Anyone, Not Everyone: A Proven System For Agencies To Escape Founder-Led Sales

    Subscribe to Corey's Newsletter

    Get more insights from Corey


    Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You by John Warrillow

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    9 months ago
    38 minutes 50 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    PR Mastery for Small Businesses: Strategies That Work with Michelle Garrett

    PR isn't just about press releases or ads—it's a strategic powerhouse for brand growth.

    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Ali Schwanke interviews PR expert Michelle Garrett, author of B2B PR That Gets Results. Michelle shares actionable advice on leveraging PR effectively in today's fast-moving world.

    What You'll Learn:

    • The evolving role of PR and how to integrate it with AI-based search trends.
    • Common PR myths—PR isn’t paid media!
    • The PESO model.
    • How to pitch effectively and build lasting media relationships.
    • Why PR is critical for building reputation, trust, and visibility in 2025.


    Get Michelle’s Book: ⁠B2B PR That Gets Results: A Guide to Simple and Targeted Public Relations Practices

    Get more insights from Michelle on PR Explored

    Check out the PESO Model

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    9 months ago
    44 minutes 50 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Master Brand Strategy & Messaging for Service Companies | Featuring Brian Sooy

    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, Ali Schwanke dives into the world of brand strategy with Brian Sooy, author of Trade Secrets and founder of Aespire. Learn why service companies struggle to market effectively—and how to fix it.


    Key Takeaways:

    • Why clear messaging beats being "the best" every time.
    • How to align your business and brand with Brian’s four-part framework: Clarity, Orientation, Relevance, and Experience.
    • The role of touchpoint ecosystems in delivering consistent, memorable customer experiences.
    • Real-life insights into differentiating service businesses through storytelling and strategic alignment.


    Get Brian’s Book: Trade Secrets: Four Core Strategies to Maximize Value for Service Companies.

    Brian's Agency: Aespire

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    9 months ago
    43 minutes 45 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Strategies to Go From a Nobody to Notable Brand in 2025, Featuring Tyler Mount

    In this episode of 'Marketing Deconstructed,' Tyler Mount, a personal branding expert and founder of Henry Street Creative, discusses the importance of authentic personal branding, differentiating oneself in both corporate and personal spheres. He explains how an authentic personal brand is crucial, regardless of one's position, and provides actionable steps to create and improve it. We delve into the impact of AI on branding and content creation, highlighting how these tools can optimize time and effort. Tyler emphasizes consistency, authenticity, and the importance of online presence across platforms like Instagram and LinkedIn. He also outlines the key components and KPIs for measuring personal branding success.


    Tyler's Site: https://tylergmount.com/

    Tyler's Company, Henry Street Creative

    You are a Bad Ass Book

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    11 months ago
    37 minutes 34 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Stand Out, Build Trust, and Make a Memorable Impact: Mastering Personal Branding with Kay Miller

    What makes people remember you—and choose you—over anyone else? In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, host Ali Schwanke chats with Kay Miller, author of Uncopyable You, to explore the power of building an intentional, memorable personal brand. 

    Whether you’re in sales, leading a team, or an entrepreneur, Kay shares actionable insights on how to stand out in a crowded market and leave a lasting impression. 

    From defining your “moose” (ideal customer) to leveraging storytelling and small memorable details, Kay dives into practical steps for crafting a brand that people will remember and trust.

    Tune in to discover:

    • Why personal branding is key for relationship selling

    • How to create stories and symbols that make you unforgettable

    • The secret to building a memorable brand—even if you're in a competitive field

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    1 year ago
    40 minutes 32 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Stop Chasing Tactics: Build a Real Marketing Strategy, with Kenneth Burke

    Marketing strategy vs tactics - what's the difference? And where do you start when building a strategy for your company?


    In this episode of Marketing Deconstructed, B2B marketing strategist and host Ali Schwanke sits down with Kenneth Burke, VP of Marketing at Text Request and author of Burke Bits, to break down the elements of an effective marketing strategy - including hard learned lessons "on the job".


    From understanding your audience and setting clear goals to navigating tactical vs. strategic thinking, Kenneth shares his practical insights gained from building marketing strategies that drive results.

    Kenneth also shares practical examples of things you can do stand out, course correct, and ask the right questions to fuel growth. Whether you're a marketer, entrepreneur, or founder managing marketing, this conversation will equip you with the tools to elevate your strategy.

    Tune in to learn:

    • Why a good marketing strategy begins with the right questions.
    • How to align strategy with long-term goals.
    • Examples of effective marketing tactics that stand out.
    • Why tactics aren’t a substitute for strategy.


    Kenneth Burke:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-burke-1641b676/


    Kenneth's newsletter:

    https://www.burkebits.com/


    Text Request:

    https://www.textrequest.com/


    Text Request podcast https://www.textrequest.com/insights/text-request-talks-podcast-all-episodes

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    1 year ago
    35 minutes 24 seconds

    Marketing Deconstructed
    Get a marketing master class, a few pieces at a time. Breaking down the concepts you need to know in marketing, psychology and sales to help you connect with customers and make more money. Hosted by Ali Schwanke.