Daniel Palay, Director of Customer Marketing at Grafana Labs, joins host Sunny Manivannan for an honest conversation about the evolution of customer marketing.
Daniel shares his journey from political campaigns to building customer marketing teams at two high-growth startups. They dig into why traditional metrics like case study counts and reference call volumes don't show real value, and what to measure instead, like net dollar retention of advocates vs. non-advocates.
The conversation covers the power of saying no strategically, how to embed yourself in workflows across the business, using AI as a force multiplier, and building teams based on complementary skills rather than hiring clones of yourself.
If you're looking to move from being reactive to being strategic, this episode is for you.
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