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How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Tim Stiefler
38 episodes
5 days ago
Right before the pandemic hit I started an agency and holy mother of god, I didn't know what I was in for. There is so much inherent drama in starting a business, particularly a creative agency. The competition is insane. The overhead is high. Client retention is a joke. So I figured I'd share my story as it unfolds to show you what it's like to start your own thing. And of course, what not to do.
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Right before the pandemic hit I started an agency and holy mother of god, I didn't know what I was in for. There is so much inherent drama in starting a business, particularly a creative agency. The competition is insane. The overhead is high. Client retention is a joke. So I figured I'd share my story as it unfolds to show you what it's like to start your own thing. And of course, what not to do.
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How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Hey Whipple Squeeze This (Luke Sullivan)

Luke Sullivan is an advertising hero of mine who agreed to talk to me on the podcast. Why? I have no idea. 

He's the author of Hey Whipple Squeeze This, the first book I read when starting out as an advertising creative, and one I've reread multiple times. And I don't reread anything. 

Back in March he released its 6th and final edition so we discussed that, copywriting, and a branding project we were working on. His advice was so good we had to scrap months of work and start from scratch. Damn you Luke!

Enjoy.

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3 years ago
37 minutes 38 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Unexpected Ways to Generate New Business (David Moore)

Today's episode features multi-agency owner and all around marketing ninja warrior, David Moore. He currently runs two agencies and has done some wild and effective things to generate new business.

One time he sent a long piece of foam board to target decision makers at companies he wanted to work with. The boards were too long to fit in their mailboxes and stuck out, which was the point. On each board were the words, "Want to stick out?".

It worked.

If you enjoyed the last episode with NBZ about generating new business, this is the perfect companion. Have a listen. Enjoy!

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4 years ago
36 minutes 43 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Marketing Your Marketing Agency (NBZ)

"We make cool s**t for brands."

I'd be lying if I said I loved it. It’s a little try hard, and to Simone Oppenheimer and Rachel Segall, it isn't a compelling, sellable point of differentiation.

You see, Simone and Rachel run their own startup. It’s called NBZ. And I admittedly thought they were a consultancy that gave tactical suggestions on how to drum up new business. But they are not. They're so much more than that.

NBZ, in my mind, is a marketing agency for marketing agencies. They take the things we're so good at doing for others, and force us to do it on ourselves. It's like going to Mr. Miyagi to be taught how to punch only to find yourself doing chores for days. Then to look back later and realize you’d suck at punching if you didn’t put in that initial work.

Was that a good analogy? I don’t know. You know what else I don’t know? Whether Gush is a brand about making cool shit. I’ll have to get back to you on that.

In the meantime, listen to them blow up what we built in the best possible way.

Enjoy.

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4 years ago
42 minutes 9 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
This will get me canceled (Steve Harrison)

Steve Harrison and I discuss his book "Can't Sell, Won't Sell." It's going to ruffle some of your feathers.

There's definitely been a lot of change this past year to correct the problems in our industry, some of which may have been over corrections. I think Steve believes the latter. Problem is, I'd be lying if I said I didn't agree with him on most of his points, hence the name of the episode. Enjoy?

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4 years ago
26 minutes 8 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Differentiating Your Brand (Craig Dubitsky)
I saw Craig speak on an Adweek panel and knew I had to chat with him. In a crowded dental hygiene space, he found a way to stand out. Finding a niche, a genuine niche, is something so many brands struggle with. Enjoy this MasterClass in brand differentiation with someone who succeeds by being nice.
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4 years ago
37 minutes 14 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
How to Build an Ad Agency (Meryl Draper)

Quirk Creative has been popping up everywhere as I've gone through this entrepreneurial journey. They're a small agency, like Gush, but  3 years ahead of us. And they've accomplished a ton in that time.

They've gone from 2 to 20 employees. Adweek ranked Meryl in the Creative 100 and Quirk as 2019's 9th fastest growing Agency (globally). They keep landing bigger, higher paying clients. And I want to be like them when I grow up. Learn how as I do.

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4 years ago
38 minutes 24 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
The CMO of Sky Zone Knows Data (Josh Cole)
Data runs everything. If you can harness it through qualitative and quantitative research, you'll win. Listen in as Josh Cole, CMO of Sky Zone, takes me through how proper research works.
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4 years ago
32 minutes 22 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Influence Through Influencer Marketing (Angelic Vendette)

Angelic Vendette is a master of influencer marketing who shows me how to not suck at doing it myself. She developed and lead campaigns at Sephora, is the current Global Head of Social, Content & Influencer Marketing at StitchFix, and is applying her expertise to her own startup, a fur coat brand called Petit Poussin. Lot's of good nuggets in this one for you to munch on.

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4 years ago
36 minutes 3 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
How to Email Marketing Good (Max Johnson)

Max Johnson is an email marketing ninja warrior. So much so, he was hired by the Hilary Clinton's campaign to do it for them. Now he's applying his black belt knowledge to his own business (Awe Inspired) and divulging his tips and tricks to me. If you're looking to up your email marketing game (and you should be), do what I did, and listen to this man. Enjoy.

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4 years ago
32 minutes 49 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Back to the Basics (Dave Dye)

Dave Dye got a grocery store owner to agree to something unusual. For over a month, Dave created ads using a sandwich board stanchion thingy on the sidewalk outside the storefront. He chalked really creative ads. Really straightforward ads. Simple ads. Visual ads. Highly targeted ads. Culturally relevant ads. Cheese ads. Coffee ads. All kinds of ads to get people in the store.

Dave then compiled his data and posted it to his blog (listed in comments) for everyone to see. Does creativity matter in advertising? Find out that and more on this week's episode. Enjoy!

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4 years ago
29 minutes 38 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
On the Importance of Brand (Kenny Haisfield)

After a 3ish month hiatus “…but seriously” is back. And dare I say, bigger than ever.

Why the break? Well we got busy. In a good way. We still are, but I’ve brought on support so I can do the show. Hopefully you continue to get as much out of it as I do.

In this episode, after providing the usual Gush update, I get a branding masterclass from Kenny Haisfield. He’s the founder of Kenny Flowers, a business that’s so much more than Hawaiian shirt company. They're a vacation mindset, which allowed for them to expand into other products and build a community. 

If you want proof that quality branding is essential, here it is. Enjoy.

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4 years ago
29 minutes 36 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
What's an insight? (w/ the B in KBS)

Jon Bond is the Bond in Kirshenbaum Bond + Partners (KBS today). Regardless of how you feel about KBS now, while Jon was there they turned out better creative, more consistently then anyone at the time. It's how they became the largest independent agency in the country. They pioneered guerilla marketing, popup stores, and other forms of what would eventually come to be known as viral marketing. They made snapple famous. They made Delta famous. They made Michael, Victoria and Tommy famous. So whether it's a drive, walk or break, pop those airpods in and get ready for a knowledge tsunami. 

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4 years ago
30 minutes 23 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
How to sell great work (Mark Denton)
Mark Denton is the Guy Ritchie of advertising creatives. You can hear it in his voice and see it in his accolades – just google him. He's one of the few people who graduated from ad creative to ad director. He’s also written a book about remaining childish and wears clothes with his name printed on them. If you’re not convinced this episode is worth listening to you’re as nonsensical as nonsense. Enjoy. Shout-out to Julian Hanford, the Annie Leibovitz of advertising, on the photo of Mark.
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5 years ago
36 minutes 13 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
A biz dev executive teaches me biz dev (Greg S Jacobs)

The art of Business Development and selling has become the most important part of my job. So I spoke to someone who's really good at it. Here are 3 key takeaways from my conversation with the ex Nascar and Redbull executive, Gregory S. Jacobs.

1) For your sales outreach, use the subject line: "Gush, The World's First Comedy Ad Agency – watch this."

2) Within the message, have a 15 second video where I introduce the agency in a humorous way. Why? Leading with content eliminates walls of text, proves that you can create bite sized content, and educates people about your unique selling proposition in a more entertaining, approachable way.

3) End with one line – "If this peeked your interest, we're here."

That's it. Thank you Greg.

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5 years ago
26 minutes 51 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
How Travis Lachner got 30,000 followers on LinkedIn

The LinkedIn algorithm is ever-changing. Travis Lachner, mastered it. 

Today, he has 30,000 LinkedIn followers, a successful ad agency and consulting firm called South Ventures, and a mustache fit for the roaring 20's. Here are  three key takeaways from this week's podcast episode:

1) If you're writing LinkedIn articles, you're pissing in the wind.

2) Commenting, liking, and engaging with others improves the performance of your own posts. 

3) LinkedIn has other post formats you're likely not aware of, including pdf carousels that could 10x your engagement. 

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5 years ago
28 minutes 8 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
How Ryan Fey went from ad man to Grill Dad

Don't let the image below fool you, Ryan Fey is a nice, fun-loving, teddy bear of a man. He's also the Co-Founder of Omelet, an ad agency that gets paid to make stuff that doesn't suck. But now he's onto his next adventure, #GrillDads.

Grill Dad's is the spawn of the "Next Food Network Star" – a #GuyFiere show where people compete to win a pilot episode on the channel.

Fey and his less good looking half (?) Mark Anderson, won the show, made the pilot, and got it picked up for a season. Now, for the first time, they've turned their attention from advertising for others, to advertising for themselves.

Enjoy.

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5 years ago
38 minutes 23 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Why this Grey ECD thinks like a PR person (Graham Drew)

I started as an account guy, telling clients they were right and pretending to smile. Graham Drew started as a PR guy, ringing the phones and pitching stories with soul-crushing results.

Today, I run a struggling ad agency and Graham is a Global ECD at Grey. But despite his greater success, I felt like I was talking to an equal. Because Graham is unusually humble despite his title. Together we discussed insecurity, ascension, and how to view seemingly negative things in a more positive way.

Enjoy.

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5 years ago
29 minutes 24 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
A former head of International Planning at BBDO teaches me Planning (Martin Karaffa)

This has been a tough week for Gush, and by extension, me. But through the highs and lows this podcast remains an absolute joy.

Today I'm stoked to share my conversation with Marty Karaffa. He's a legendary planner and the former Global Head of International Planning at BDDO. Today he's an Associate Partner at Hofstede Insights, a speaker, researcher, facilitator, semiotician, and decoder of culture for global organizations.

I don't know what semiotician means but I'm pretty sure you should give this episode a semiotician.

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5 years ago
38 minutes 11 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Mychael Owen is my Dad's favorite guest

If you work in advertising and don't experience a midlife crisis, you might be an alien.

Mychael Owen isn't. He's a man. And a few years ago he left his own agency to pursue a greater purpose in the clothing industry. Nowadays, Mychael has a successful clothing line called Always Wear Red, and is chronicling his 50's with one post a day via his blog 50odd. Today will be his 774th post.

If you're in a rut, or want to meet my Dad's favorite guest, give it a listen.

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5 years ago
31 minutes 45 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
The man who gave me a chance (Doug Scott)
Doug Scott gave me my start in advertising. I was a 24-year-old former personal assistant to Tucker Max, with zero advertising experience and no clue what a "dial in" was. For Doug, that didn't matter. He didn't hire normal people. He took on restaurant managers, journalists, and swiss army knives of all kinds. I wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for him. But I gotta be honest, Doug terrified me. He's a passionate and extremely smart dude who was determined to change the industry. And I was an insecure adolescent who just wanted him to like me. But when we chatted, it felt like I was talking to an old friend, a peer almost. I didn't realize how much I had grown and the confidence I built since first walking through the doors of Ogilvy. The best part is, during those 6 years, Doug grew just as much. Enjoy.
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5 years ago
39 minutes 18 seconds

How Not to Start an Ad Agency
Right before the pandemic hit I started an agency and holy mother of god, I didn't know what I was in for. There is so much inherent drama in starting a business, particularly a creative agency. The competition is insane. The overhead is high. Client retention is a joke. So I figured I'd share my story as it unfolds to show you what it's like to start your own thing. And of course, what not to do.