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That Change Show
Lean Change Management
31 episodes
5 months ago
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
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Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
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Episodes (20/31)
That Change Show
The Human Side of Change: Satir, Patterns, Systems, and Complexity with Don Gray
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
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8 months ago
43 minutes

That Change Show
Untangling the Organizational Hairball
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Join us for an enlightening conversation as esteemed facilitator Donna Jones ( https://www.dawnajones.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnahjones/) guides us through the complexities of systems thinking in organizational contexts. With a rich backdrop of experience and a reflective nod to our meeting in Estonia 12 years ago, Donna offers profound insights into how organizational systems can influence behavior. We discuss the necessit...
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11 months ago
41 minutes

That Change Show
Sense-Making is the New Change Management
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Prefer the video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAiMBgSByBQ Can you transform the chaos of change into an opportunity for growth? Join me, Jason Little, as we tackle the evolving landscape of change management with innovative strategies. Our latest episode promises a fresh perspective, moving beyond the traditional and embracing a sensemaking approach that balances both exploration and action. Discover how to leverage the "last responsib...
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11 months ago
24 minutes

That Change Show
Agile is Very Much Alive!
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Video version: https://youtu.be/g4vNeWW0EbQ Can Agile methodologies still deliver on their promises, or have they become victims of their own success? Discover the answer in our latest episode of "That Change Show" as we chat with Agile experts John Tanner, CEO of C4G Enterprises, and Quinton Cortell, founder of FAST Agile. With host Jason guiding the conversation, we explore Agile's journey from its grassroots beginnings to its current st...
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1 year ago
1 hour 5 minutes

That Change Show
AI's Role in the Future of Change Management
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/8FuaOqmCkMg Imagine a world where AI transforms how we approach organizational change management. Join us as we chat with Tapio Kumalainen, leader of HowSpace's North American operations, about the intriguing journey of HowSpace. From its roots as a human-centric consulting firm in Finland to an AI-powered change management platform, HowSpace has been integrating AI tools since 2015. Tapio delves into how...
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1 year ago
48 minutes

That Change Show
Maple Syrup, Back Bacon and Change Agility with Justin Balaski of Idealeap
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Unlock the secrets to thriving in a constant state of change with Justin Belaski, the maestro of Lean Change from Idea Leap. In our latest episode, we chart Justin's remarkable journey from retail operations to revolutionizing change management. His story is not just about professional transformation but an intricate dance with innovation that redefines the art of adaptability in business. Join us as we discuss the power of storytelling in ...
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1 year ago
54 minutes

That Change Show
Navigating the Intersection of AI, Coaching, and Organizational Change with Lauri Paloheimo
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Embark on an enlightening journey with Lauri Paloheimo of Pandatron as we scrutinize the fascinating convergence of AI, coaching, and change management. Lauri guides us through the transformative landscape of coaching evolution, from primitive chat-based interactions to the cutting-edge AI capable of emulating empathetic responses within the corporate labyrinth. With a profound background in philosophy and futures thinking, Lauri illuminate...
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1 year ago
49 minutes

That Change Show
AI-Powered Sentiment Analysis and Its Impact on Organizational Change
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Discover how to tap into the emotional pulse of your audience using AI-driven sentiment analysis, a topic we tackle with fervor as Phoebe from Australia joins the conversation. We're not just scratching the surface of customer feedback and employee opinions; we're delving deep into the emotional spectrum that can revolutionize how businesses interpret complex data. Imagine having the ability to discern intricate emotional patterns and lever...
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1 year ago
27 minutes

That Change Show
Change Management Rockstar Answers YOUR Questions!
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Get ready to amp up your Super Bowl Sunday with a side of strategic expertise and a dash of celebrity excitement! This episode isn't just about football and pop stars—it's a playbook for change agents looking to master Lean Change Management. Imagine navigating the complexities of organizational change with the precision of a quarterback on game day. We're going deep into real-world conundrums faced by change agents like you, dissecting the...
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1 year ago
19 minutes

That Change Show
Is Agile dead or are agile people just bitter that they don't recognize it anymore?
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Is Agile a relic of a bygone era or a methodology evolving right before our eyes? We grapple with this conundrum, reminiscing about Agile's humble beginnings and its expansion, much like the growth of the NHL. With Ken Rickard and guest insights from Michael Laurie of Bayer, this episode is a deep dive into the essence of Agile in today's fast-paced world. We talk about transforming the managerial landscape, where companies like Morningstar...
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1 year ago
49 minutes

That Change Show
AI and the Future of Change Management: Promise, Peril, and the Shift in Professional Roles
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Ever wondered how AI might redefine the role of a change manager, or if it can comprehend the human nuances in Agile methodologies? This episode peels back the layers of AI's involvement in change management, addressing the palpable concerns of trust, oversimplification, and the steep learning curve that accompany its rise. Jeff Sutherland, co-creator of Scrum, joins us with his insights, as we put various AI bots to the test with real-worl...
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1 year ago
29 minutes

That Change Show
Agile Transformations: What's the Problem?
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! On Lean Change TV: https://leanchange.tv/videos/agile-transformations-whats-the-problem-that-change-show-s2-e2 Ever wondered why, despite its popularity, Agile transformation can feel like swimming upstream in the corporate world? Join us as enterprise coach, Ken Rickard, and I dissect the reality behind Agile's application in massive organizations. Through candid conversation, we unravel the paradox of Agile's allure versus its on-the-gro...
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1 year ago
43 minutes

That Change Show
Revolutionizing Change Management with AI's Invisible Forces
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52db0KvcZj8 Discover the transformative influence of AI on the landscape of change management in our latest episode, where we chart a course through the uncharted territories of innovation and adaptation. I share my firsthand experiences since 2022, cutting through the misinformation fog and showcasing the six pivotal areas where AI is reshaping the change management arena. From crafting dy...
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1 year ago
32 minutes

That Change Show
#18 Change Management Expert vs ChatGPT - Who know more about change management?
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! TCS #18 - Change Management Expert vs ChatGPT - Who know more about change management? It this episode I put ChatGPT to the test. Does it know more about change management than I do, or is it simply filled with the same ol' nonsense plastered all over Linked In by "change experts"? I'll touch on how to use ChatGPT to replace your change comms person, how to use ChatGPT to write your change strategy and see if ChatGPT can give 'normal peop...
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2 years ago
39 minutes

That Change Show
#17 - Why New Years Resolutions Matter: How to change things when change is hard
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Odds are you're in the 91% of the population who've abandoned their new years resolution according to inc.com Abandoning these resolutions have reached meme status but does that mean we should stop doing them? What's the real value and purpose behind creating new years resolutions? In this episode I talk about: - rituals and ceremonies bring focus - how agile approaches benefit from rituals and ceremonies - being explicit about exploratio...
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2 years ago
27 minutes

That Change Show
#16 - The SHOCKING Truth Behind Agile Scaling Frameworks
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! DaD will be upset if you're not SAFe because you might fall into the NEXUS and you'll need to be UNFIXED. Always remember, LeSS is more. This week's episode is from a lean coffee session where I was asked for the millionth time; which agile scaling framework is the best? Seeing the love and hate reactions to agile scaling frameworks is remarkable, but people miss how eerily similar they all are when you peek under the covers. Since the dawn...
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2 years ago
31 minutes

That Change Show
#15 - 70% of Change Managers Suck!!
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Sigh. Here we go again. I hosted a private lean coffee session a couple of week ago and one of the highest voted questions was: "how to you ensure successful change when we KNOW 70% of changes fail?" I wrote about this over a decade ago...and before me, others like Jen Frahm, Heather Stagl, Torben Rick and more have debunked this ridiculous 'stat'. In this episode I'll break down where it came from, what the 'data' says and most importa...
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2 years ago
21 minutes

That Change Show
#14 The Elon Musk Change Method™
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! The armchair quarterbacks are out in full force pretending they can do a better job of 'managing twitter' than good ol' Elon. Reactions to what he's done at twitter range from "this is a clinic in mis-management" to "Elon doesn't know good change management!!" Many people have asked me what I think about Elon's "approach to change". I don't like commenting on stuff like this because Elon evokes such a broad spectrum of reactions, but what ...
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2 years ago
29 minutes

That Change Show
#13 - The Change Equation is Wrong!
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! That Change Show, EP #13 - The Change Equation is Wrong! Don't shoot the messenger! I wrote about this 7 years ago and it's reared its ugly head on Linked In and someone asked me if my perspective has changed about The Change Equation (Tippett's version, not Beckard-Harris). In this episode I'll break down what I thought about the change equation back in 2015, and what's changed since then. #leanchange #changemanagement #agile #agi...
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2 years ago
38 minutes

That Change Show
#12 - Building Change Capability: clickbait statement, or A good idea?
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! This episode was inspired by a question on one of our recent Linked In posts. How does Lean Change manage change at scale with 90,000 people across 3,000 locations when you don't have access to 99% of the people? Oddly enough, the same week I had the same question from two separate lean coffee sessions in my workshops. So is there some substance to the phrase "building change capability is the best way to ensure successful change?", or i...
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3 years ago
36 minutes

That Change Show
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...