Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
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Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! Join us for an enlightening conversation as esteemed facilitator Donna Jones ( https://www.dawnajones.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnahjones/) guides us through the complexities of systems thinking in organizational contexts. With a rich backdrop of experience and a reflective nod to our meeting in Estonia 12 years ago, Donna offers profound insights into how organizational systems can influence behavior. We discuss the necessit...
That Change Show
Have ideas for the show? Liked a topic? Let us know! In this episode of That Change Show, Jason sits down with Don Gray for a deep dive into the realities of change management—beyond frameworks, buzzwords, and rigid processes. They explore why change is messy, how emotions and values shape resistance, and why organizations often focus on the wrong levers when trying to transform. Drawing from personal experiences, the Satir Change Model, and insights from complex systems thinking, Jason and D...
