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The True Craft Podcast
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121 episodes
2 weeks ago
The True Craft Podcast facilitates the honest, insightful, behind-closed-doors conversations that craft owners and operators actually want to hear. Join us each week to hear co-hosts Chris Farmand and Katy Noel speak with a guest craft owner as they discuss the challenges, opportunities, and decisions facing craft practitioners every day across the country.
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The True Craft Podcast facilitates the honest, insightful, behind-closed-doors conversations that craft owners and operators actually want to hear. Join us each week to hear co-hosts Chris Farmand and Katy Noel speak with a guest craft owner as they discuss the challenges, opportunities, and decisions facing craft practitioners every day across the country.
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The True Craft Podcast
E120: The Equation Behind Every Great Beer Sale with Justin Vitti of Wander Back Beerworks
In this episode we are sitting down with Justin Vitti, co-founder of Wander Back Beerworks in New Jersey. After helping Cape May Brewing grow from 1,200 to over 40,000 barrels in distribution, Justin launched Wanderback—a self-distributing brewery...without a taproom! Some highlights include: * The simple distribution equation every brewery needs to master: Volume = Points of Distribution × Rate of Sale * Why “going deep before wide” still wins in today’s crowded craft beer market * How phone-level shelf placement and consistent relationship building can actually drive velocity Justin also shares why the industry needs to rediscover its collaborative roots. And how making beer fun again may actually be the way to win over the next gen beer drinkers. Enjoy the episode!
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2 weeks ago
39 minutes 11 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E119: Brewing Growth That Lasts with Karl Sanford of Manhattan Project Beer Company
On today’s episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Karl Sanford — co-founder of Manhattan Project Beer Company out of Dallas, TX. In just seven years, Karl and his team have grown the brewery to 17,000 barrels a year and show no signs of slowing down! With a clear strategy, a powerhouse flagship beer, and some Texas-sized expansion plans, MPBC is showing that craft is alive and well in 2025. Highlights include: * How Manhattan scaled from homebrewing for a wedding to a 17,000 bbl operation * What a “profit-first approach” looks like in expansion and contract brewing * How to maintain restaurant-quality hospitality in the taproom As Karl puts it, “Quality never goes out of style.” And if you’ve ever doubted whether craft can still win big even in today’s market, this episode will change your mind.
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1 month ago
36 minutes 31 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E118: Lessons from 25 Years in Hospitality with Erik Shewmaker of Field Day Brewing
In this episode, we sit down with Erik Shewmaker, co-founder of Field Day Brewing and longtime restaurateur. Erik shares how a quarter of a century in hospitality shaped the launch of Field Day in 2023, the challenges of navigating Iowa distribution laws, the early adoption of THC beverages, and everything in-between! Highlights include: How a restaurant-first mindset changes how a brewery inherently operates What breweries can learn from scaling in the restaurant industry Why THC beverages are reshaping the hospitality space (despite it being a relatively new offering) This episode unscores the importance of breweries not taking guests for granted and ensuring hospitality is at the forefront of every decision. As Erik puts it, “If we’re just order takers instead of order makers, we’re really doing guests a disservice.” With 25 years in hospitality, Erik’s perspective is one you won’t want to miss!
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1 month ago
46 minutes 40 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E117: Building Resilience into Your Brewery Model with Adam Charnack of Hi-Wire Brewing
On this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we chat with Adam Charnack, co-founder of Hi-Wire Brewing out of Asheville, NC. From weathering natural disasters like Hurricane Helene to shifting their business model to stay ahead of the ever-evolving craft beer industry, Adam shares what it takes to keep a brewery moving forward. Highlights include: * What to consider when expanding into multiple locations and new markets (and hear how Hi-Wire expanded to 11 locations in 4 different states!) * How to plan for and recover from major setbacks that could hit your bottom line * Why contract brewing may be an overlooked growth lever and what to do about it This episode is filled to the brim with insights on resilience, strategy, and staying true to the thing that started the journey for so many brewery owners: the craft. Don’t miss it.
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1 month ago
34 minutes 41 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E116: Building a Rural Brewery from the Ground Up with Bobby Cheek of Heavale Brewing
In this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Bobby Cheek of Heavale Brewing Company in Calhoun, GA. Have you heard of a new brewery opening for under $200k? With a turnkey space, secondhand tanks, and a dash of DYI, the small-but-mighty Heavale team did exactly that! Bobby shares what it takes to build a brewery from scratch in a rural market and why community might just be the biggest ingredient. Some highlights include: * Creative ways Bobby kept startup costs to ~$165k with no loans * The hurdles and perks of running a rural brewery (from educating patrons on beer styles to having close relationships with local officials) * How unique programming like line dancing and cigar nights keeps customers coming back If you’ve ever wondered how to build a brewery on a $165k budget (with a side of some unique ideas for event programming and taproom-focused initiatives), our chat with Bobby is one you’ll want to hear!
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2 months ago
37 minutes 46 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E115: The Taproom and Distro Balancing Act with Doug Bellenger of Well Crafted Beer Co
E115: The Taproom and Distro Balancing Act with Doug Bellenger of Well Crafted Beer Co. In this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we chat with Doug Bellenger of Well Crafted Beer Co. out of Lansdale, PA to unpack the ever-present balance of running a brewery. From creating an enjoyable fast casual atmosphere in the taproom to recalibrating wholesale margins, Doug gives a clear-eyed look at the trade-offs breweries face today. Doug also shares what he’s learned while operating two thriving taprooms, scaling to 2,000 barrels per year, and expanding distribution across 35 counties! Some highlights include: * How to use distribution as a way to drive traffic to the taproom * The pricing strategy shift you can make without sacrificing quality * What the “sweet spot” balance looks like in 2025 for growing craft breweries If you're trying to balance running a profitable taproom with a growing distro program, this episode breaks down how one brewery is making it work while growing through it all.
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3 months ago
45 minutes 54 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E114: Scaling Beyond Beer with Ted Mitzlaff of Goodwood Beer & Spirits
In this episode, we sit down with Ted Mitzlaff, Owner and CEO of Goodwood Beer & Spirits, to unpack how a Louisville, KY brewery grew from a small production operation into a multiple locations with restaurants, spirits, and experiences. (Anyone wanna go bowling?) From navigating the market downturn to sometimes embracing necessary business pivots, Ted shares insights with over two decades of being in the business. Highlights include: * Learning the importance of maintaining great company culture while growing a business * The operational structure that Goodwood uses for its various locations * Why owners should introduce more experiences into their programming mix As Ted says, “The name of the game is diversification,” and this episode gives owners ideas of how to tackle a diverse portfolio while marrying them with memorable experiences for customers. Enjoy!
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3 months ago
38 minutes 22 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E113: De-Risking Craft Beer with Charlie Berger of Wilding Brands
In this episode, we sit down with Charlie Berger, co-founder of Denver Beer Company and now one of the minds behind Wilding Brands—the growing group that includes Denver Beer Co, Stem Ciders, Funkwerks, Howdy Beer, Great Divide Brewing Company, and (breaking news!) Station 26 Brewing Company. Charlie shares how he and his team are bringing together some of Colorado’s most beloved breweries and cider makers to build something stronger, together. Highlights include: * What product diversity in a taproom looks like in 2025 * The 3-part growth strategy behind their next moves (hint: innovation, retail, and M&A) * How Wilding Brands is helping “de-risk” the future of craft As Charlie puts it, “I haven’t been this excited about the industry in years.” At a time when many breweries are feeling the pressure, this episode offers a different kind of roadmap.
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4 months ago
50 minutes 44 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E112: Building A Destination-Worthy Taproom with Brian Walker of Cody Craft Brewing
This week on The True Craft Podcast, we’re joined by Brian Walker, the co-owner of Cody Craft Brewing in Cody, Wyoming. A former tech professional turned brewery owner, Brian shares how he made the leap from cybersecurity to craft beer, and how he and his team have built a destination-worthy taproom in a town of just 10,000 people. Some highlights include: * Why Cody Craft never wanted to run a kitchen...and still doesn’t * When to say yes (and when to say no) to distribution offers * The state of change of craft beer and what’s causing a shift toward “beer that tastes like beer” If you’re curious on what it takes to run a brewery in a small(er) market while growing at your own pace, this episode’s filled with stellar insight and grounded advice you’ll actually use!
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4 months ago
46 minutes 2 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E111: AI and the Craft Brewery with Adam Robbings of Reuben’s Brews
Adam Robbings of Reuben’s Brews returns to The True Craft Podcast to share how he’s putting AI to work behind the scenes, from forecasting taproom traffic to simplifying the hiring process. He and Chris also unpack key takeaways from this year’s CBC and preview Adam’s upcoming book on optimizing the way departments work together across a brewery. Some highlights include: * How his AI-powered tool, HospitalityWeather, predicts taproom traffic and improves daily operations * The automation hacks he’s using to simplify reporting, hiring, and staff communication * What his new book tackles that SOPs don’t—and why he wrote the first draft in just 8 days If you’ve ever been curious about how AI might shape the future of brewing, this conversation is a great place to start!
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5 months ago
52 minutes 1 second

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E110: Balancing Contract Brewing and Taproom Growth with Jeremy Duffy of Isle Brewers Guild
On today’s episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Jeremy Duffy, co-founder of Isle Brewers Guild (IBG) in Pawtucket, RI. IBG is a 100-barrel contract brewing facility that also runs three successful retail locations under The Guild Brewing Company brand. Jeremy gives us a behind-the-scenes look into large-scale production with a strong retail presence focused on food, events, and sales (without sacrificing margin!) Highlights: * What a diverse beverage lineup looks like in 2025 * How to pull off 373 events in one calendar year (!) * Making the transition from food trucks to an in-house kitchen If you’ve been curious what it’s like to run a high-capacity brewhouse while building a consumer brand, or you’re looking for ideas on how to tackle your business’ retail strategy...you won’t want to miss this episode!
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5 months ago
34 minutes 25 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E109: CBC Recap and the Power of Knowing Your COGS with Dan Callender of Salty Turtle Beer Company
In this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Dan Callender, co-founder of Salty Turtle Beer Company out of Surf City, NC. We kick things off with a recap of CBC in Indianapolis! (Shoutout to the BA for organizing a conference that put a huge spotlight on learning and connection). Dan then walks us through Salty Turtle’s origin story, how they’ve strategically scaled, and why being nimble in 2025 looks a little different than it used to. We touch on a little bit of everything: taproom efficiency, distribution strategy, sales experience, and how a single spreadsheet can change the game. Highlights include: * What to watch out for when growing too fast * Salty Turtle’s definition of “being nimble” in 2025 (and why it starts with spreadsheets...) * What most breweries get wrong about self-distribution With insight on what it really takes to run a community-centric brewery in this current age of craft, Dan brings the kind of tactical knowledge that every brewery owner needs to hear. Enjoy the episode!
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6 months ago
42 minutes 12 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E108: The Future Is Retail with Jeff Heck of Monday Night Brewing
We’ve said it before, and we’ll say it again: retail is the future of craft. On this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Jeff Heck, co-founder of Monday Night Brewing out of Atlanta, GA, to talk about how his team made that shift. What started as a backyard homebrew club has grown into six unique taproom locations across the Southeast. Jeff shares the mindset behind expanding their hospitality footprint, the key decisions that shaped their growth, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way. Highlights include: * Why choosing culturally significant real estate is imperative to expansion * How Monday Night builds their culture across state lines with onboarding and local leadership * The huge impact solid food programs and private events have on taproom revenue If you’re thinking about investing in your own brewery's retail presence or curious on how other brewery’s are tackling this head-on, Jeff’s insights are worth the listen! Enjoy!
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6 months ago
45 minutes 39 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E107: Brewing for the Long Haul with Dave Winslow of Jackson Street Brewing
In this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we are grabbing a pint with Dave Winslow, Owner of Jackson Street Brewing out of Sioux City, IA to chat about what it takes to build a successful brewery without investors or mountains of debt. Highlights: * How Jackson Street Beer grew from a 3.5-barrel system to a thriving operation without outside investors * The impact of how defining a brewery’s mission and values can be the biggest business advantage * Why Dave sees systematizing operations as the next big move to allow owners to work "on" vs "in" their business From big decisions in a family-run business to the challenges of expansion, Dave offers hard-earned wisdom for any brewery owner looking to build for the long haul.
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7 months ago
42 minutes 22 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E106: Remaining Relevant with Mike Frohlich of Laughing Sun Brewing Company
In this episode, we hang out with Mike Frohlich of Laughing Sun Brewing Company to swap stories about his wild ride through the craft beer world. From his early days at Rattlesnake Creek Brewery & Grill in 1996 to turning Laughing Sun into a Bismarck hotspot, Mike’s seen a LOT in craft beer evolution. Highlights include: * How Laughing Sun grew from a scrappy 3.5-barrel setup in a 162 sq. ft. space to a booming 20-barrel brewhouse with 5,000 sq. ft. * The major revenue drivers breweries should be focused on in 2025 * Creative new products and offerings to explore as craft beer drinker preferences keep evolving With over two decades of brewing, Mike brings a ton of wisdom (and some great stories) to the table. This episode is part history lesson, part how-to guide, and all-around good fun!
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7 months ago
40 minutes 45 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E105: Recurring Revenue with Ross Stensrud of TapWyse
In this episode, we’re digging into the challenges and opportunities of brewery loyalty programs with Ross Stensrud, co-founder of TapWyse. Many breweries offer memberships, but structuring them in a way that drives real revenue while keeping customers engaged? That’s not always a straightforward approach. We explore what’s working, what’s not, and how data-driven insights can help breweries build more effective programs. Some highlights include: * The difference between loyalty and membership programs * How monthly memberships ($20/mo) often outperform annual ones ($147/yr) in revenue * Why expiring rewards encourage repeat visits without increasing costs If you’re considering a membership program or looking to improve your existing one, this episode is for you.
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8 months ago
26 minutes 46 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E104: Why Every Dollar Counts with Eric Ruta of Craft Brewery Purchasing Organization
In this episode of The True Craft Podcast, we sit down with Eric Ruta, owner and founder of Magnify Brewing, to talk about his side project that’s making a big impact: the Craft Brewery Purchasing Organization (CBPO). Eric started CBPO to help breweries (including his own) score better pricing on raw materials, packaging, and labels. Some highlights include: * How CBPO members are cutting costs by up to $40K a year * The shift from limited releases to core beers—and what that means for your bottom line * What potential tariffs could mean for the immediate future of the brewing community Eric breaks it all down, from bulk-buying benefits to how breweries of all sizes can make smarter purchasing decisions in 2025.
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8 months ago
37 minutes 38 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E103: The Strategic Side of Finances with Nicole Smith of South Lake Brewing Company
In this episode of True Craft, we are chatting with Nicole Smith, CFO of South Lake Brewing Company out of Lake Tahoe, CA, about how she took on the financial reins of her business and why knowing your number is just as important as brewing great beer. Highlights include: * How open book management helps South Lake’s team make smarter money moves * The growing pains (and financial gains) of scaling a brewery * When it’s time to bring in a CFO (and what to do before you hire one) If cash flow, KPIs, and P&Ls make your head spin more than a triple IPA, join us for this insightful (and fun) chat with Nicole!
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9 months ago
58 minutes 30 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E102: Future-proofing Craft with Chris Creech of The Glass Jug Beer Lab
In this episode, we’re sitting down with Chris Creech of The Glass Jug Beer Lab out of Durham, NC, to uncover how they’ve stayed ahead of industry trends and built a loyal community. Starting as a humble bottle shop in 2014—just after North Carolina eased growler regulations to allow retail stores to fill them—Glass Jug has grown into a powerhouse with two locations, a 3.5 bbl brewery, and a bottle shop that carries an impressive 600 SKUs at any given time! Highlights include: * A surprise beverage category that’s stealing the spotlight (and boosting profits) * How to turn your taproom into the local hangout with community-focused experiences * Why thinking beyond beer might be your best move in 2025 We also explore Glass Jug’s distribution strategy, how they’re navigating flattening craft beer growth, and why reinvesting in your space could be the key to long-term success. Curious? Pour yourself a pint, hit play, and get inspired!
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9 months ago
38 minutes 13 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
E101: “The Suburban Pub” Boom with Phil Humphrey of 608 Brewing
Kick off 2025 with Episode 101 of The True Craft Podcast! This week, we’re chatting with Phil Humphrey, Founder of 608 Brewing Company in La Crosse, WI. From launching a lean startup in 2018 to opening a second suburban taproom in 2023 (that is outperforming their original location 20%-40%!), Phil shares his story of determination, creativity, and pushing boundaries in craft beer. Some highlights include: * How Phil got 608 Brewing off the ground with a budget under $500k (!) * The operation behind brewing 400+ unique beers in six years while trying to stay ahead of industry trends * An inside look at 608’s thriving suburban taproom and their bold leap into hemp-derived THC beverages Phil’s journey shows that combining the charm of a suburban pub with bold vision, creative recipes, and a knack for adapting can transform a lean startup into a thriving craft beer success story. We hope that you enjoy this episode and we look forward to bringing you more True Craft in 2025!
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10 months ago
39 minutes 18 seconds

The True Craft Podcast
The True Craft Podcast facilitates the honest, insightful, behind-closed-doors conversations that craft owners and operators actually want to hear. Join us each week to hear co-hosts Chris Farmand and Katy Noel speak with a guest craft owner as they discuss the challenges, opportunities, and decisions facing craft practitioners every day across the country.