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Cover Brand
Ethan Decker
44 episodes
4 days ago

Uncover the secrets of successful branding with Cover Brand!


Join host Ethan Decker as he delves into the science-backed principles of marketing, advertising, and brand growth. With insights drawn from a career working with industry giants like Nike and PepsiCo, Ethan translates complex strategies into actionable advice for businesses, nonprofits, and organizations of all sizes. Tune in to understand the commonalities that drive effective branding and learn how to wisely invest your precious time and resources. Get ready for a fun and informative journey that could transform your venture into a thriving success.


Subscribe now and expand your brand horizons!


appliedbrandscience.com


Our Cover Brand Spotify Playlist. - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6h4QzTqrtn9DIAPvdn1iCI?si=gu2_b8bxTN2d-ApnhwLtPg


Theme Music - Take a Step Back by Jamie Block


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Uncover the secrets of successful branding with Cover Brand!


Join host Ethan Decker as he delves into the science-backed principles of marketing, advertising, and brand growth. With insights drawn from a career working with industry giants like Nike and PepsiCo, Ethan translates complex strategies into actionable advice for businesses, nonprofits, and organizations of all sizes. Tune in to understand the commonalities that drive effective branding and learn how to wisely invest your precious time and resources. Get ready for a fun and informative journey that could transform your venture into a thriving success.


Subscribe now and expand your brand horizons!


appliedbrandscience.com


Our Cover Brand Spotify Playlist. - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6h4QzTqrtn9DIAPvdn1iCI?si=gu2_b8bxTN2d-ApnhwLtPg


Theme Music - Take a Step Back by Jamie Block


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Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 7: No Cords Attached

What do you do when your client wants a viral digital series—but actually just wants expensive commercials? This week, Ethan and Laura break down On Brand Episode 7, where KitchenAid challenges contestants to create a digital campaign for their new KitchenAid Go cordless appliances. The duo explores the brand science behind product positioning, the power (and peril) of iconic products, and why understanding your audience and occasion matters more than any brief.


They dive into how brand storytelling can go wrong when clients confuse entertainment with advertising, how pressure stifles creativity, and what KitchenAid’s “No Cords Attached” challenge teaches marketers about staying grounded in audience truth.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The double-edged sword of iconic products like the KitchenAid stand mixer
  • Why “cordless” isn’t always the benefit you think it is
  • The difference between occasions and demographics when defining a market
  • How to handle clients who ask for what they don’t actually want
  • The danger of confusing brand storytelling with product placement
  • Why psychological safety beats panic for creative performance
  • The art of winning over clients (without “pushing back”)
  • When good ideas die because the client or culture isn’t ready
  • What Jennifer Garner taught us about brand fluency and the value of a good spokesperson

Premium Stickiness Award: “Unplugged and Unleashed.”

It wasn’t the perfect pitch, but it nailed the insight: freedom is the fantasy. Even when your product’s power source changes, your story still has to plug into something human.


Tune in for a lesson in brand briefs, client psychology, and the fine line between “digital series” and “expensive ads.” Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts, and follow this special On Brand mini-series as Ethan and Laura decode the weird, wild world of reality TV marketing.


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#TeamBianca #TeamPyper



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4 days ago
55 minutes 35 seconds

Cover Brand
Vibe Marketing with Amy Biondo

Ready to turn your creative skills into a thriving business? In this episode of Cover Brand, host Ethan Decker chats with multi-talented musician and vocal coach Amy Biondo about personal branding, crafting a unique market position, and strategies that make your service irresistible to high-end clients.


Discover why selling an experience is more powerful than selling a product, how to identify and own your perfect "occasion," and what you can borrow from the world’s luxury brands—even if you’re a small-scale performer, service provider, or entrepreneur. Amy reveals the branding challenges and wins from her own career (including a clever approach to set apart her duo), while Ethan digs deep into marketing psychology, tiered positioning, and creating word-of-mouth magic. Whether you’re a musician, creative, or freelancer, you’ll walk away with practical steps to help you become the go-to name in your niche.


Main Topics Covered

  • Keys to crafting an irresistible personal or business brand
  • “Vibe marketing” and selling experiences – not just services
  • Deciding on a niche and using “occasion-based” marketing
  • Branding lessons from luxury brands and high-end hospitality
  • Creating client-focused messaging to spark imagination and bookings
  • Naming, logos, and promotional strategies that stick
  • Building word-of-mouth and making it easy for fans to share your story


Links to Additional Resources

  • CoverBrand Covers – Official Spotify Playlist (For all cover songs mentioned on the podcast)
  • Amy Biondo’s Website & Music


Inspired to elevate your brand? Start by mapping out the key occasions or experiences that make your work unique, then identify what high-end brands are doing and “steal their playbook.” Step into your premium positioning, create a simple and powerful handout, and ask your happiest clients to spread the word.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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6 days ago
23 minutes 12 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 6: Character Building (for Characters)

What happens when you’re tasked with “making the Doughboy relevant again”? In this episode, Ethan and Laura unpack the Pillsbury challenge from On Brand, where contestants must introduce the classic mascot to a “new generation of bakers.” The duo dives deep into the science of brand mascots—what makes them memorable, how they evolve, and why some (like the Duolingo Owl) thrive by going full chaos while others play it too safe.


They also explore how brand characters work as mental shortcuts in consumer brains, why over-sanitizing your mascot kills storytelling, and what happens when a brief asks for “everything, everywhere, all at once.”


Main Topics Covered:

  • The brand science of mascots: consistency, storytelling, and emotional cues
  • Why old mascots can (and should) appeal to young audiences
  • The risk and reward of killing—or reviving—your mascot (RIP Mr. Peanut)
  • The importance of giving characters character—conflict, flaws, and stakes
  • Duolingo Owl vs. Doughboy: chaos vs. comfort
  • When briefs go rogue: the danger of asking for a “small activation” that’s secretly a global campaign
  • The perils of bad focus groups and why marketers shouldn’t count votes in a room of 10
  • “New generation of bakers”—what that really means (and doesn’t)
  • How “There’s Dough Place Like Home” rebrands nostalgia for modern audiences



Premium Stickiness Award: “There’s Dough Place Like Home.”

Simple, nostalgic, and just clever enough to work. It’s not reinvention—it’s reinforcement. Proof that even 60-year-old mascots can stick if you give them a little story and a lot of heart.


Tune in for a deep dive into brand mascots, modern marketing myths, and the fine art of keeping your brand fresh without throwing out what makes it lovable. Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts—and keep following our On Brand mini-series for more reality TV, real lessons, and just the right amount of brand nerdiness.


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1 week ago
59 minutes 29 seconds

Cover Brand
Revealing the Real with Michele Blazier and Arissa Kirkland

Is showing your brand’s “behind the scenes” essential to business success—or just a passing trend? On this episode of Cover Brand, host Ethan Decker sits down with Bishop Fox’s Michele Blazier and Arissa Kirkland for a lively discussion at the crossroads of authenticity, professionalism, and marketing effectiveness. They dive into real-world examples, from Taylor Swift’s unfiltered album documentaries to the disciplined polish of iconic brands like Nike and Prada.

If you’re wondering whether your company should pull back the curtain and get real with your audience, you’ll gain actionable insight on what works (and what doesn’t!) for B2B and B2C brands alike. This episode will help you determine when to leverage raw, human storytelling versus when to maintain a refined, polished image—plus how to test what feels right for your customers. Tune in to learn how to make your brand both memorable and trustworthy.


Main Topics Covered

  • The pros and cons of behind-the-scenes content for brands
  • Authenticity vs. professionalism: Striking the right balance
  • Are “unfiltered” moments a must-have or a marketing lever?
  • Real-world brand case studies: Taylor Swift, Nike, Salesforce, Prada, Fenty
  • How to decide if less-polished content fits your brand and audience
  • The importance of getting feedback and testing new content formats
  • The role of consistency and authenticity in brand marketing
  • Key marketing “laws” and “levers” to help your business grow


Links to Additional Resources

  • Bishop Fox
  • Taylor Swift – Folklore Documentary
  • Nike’s 2023 Super Bowl Ad
  • Salesforce Branding


Ready to level up your brand strategy? Try experimenting with authentic, behind-the-scenes content—and measure your audience’s response. Think about where your brand sits on the spectrum between raw storytelling and polished professionalism, then test what resonates. Want expert help? Head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into proven brand science principles!


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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1 week ago
21 minutes 25 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 5: Go Viral… in Ten Months

In this week’s On Brand breakdown, Captain Morgan’s marketing team throws down one of the toughest challenges yet: make a Super Bowl campaign that will go viral nearly a year in advance. Ethan and Laura dive into why this kind of brief sets creatives up for chaos, and how understanding your audience—what they drink, where they watch, and how they connect—makes all the difference.


They also break down brand science lessons around distinctiveness, consistency, and creative stretch:

  • Why Captain Morgan’s mustache might not be as iconic as they think (but could be)
  • How viral marketing myths still haunt brand teams
  • The psychology of “big ideas” that expand across channels and culture
  • And what makes a campaign truly sticky—not just loud.


Main Topics Covered:

  • Why “make it viral” is a creative nightmare
  • How research (or lack of it) shapes good briefs
  • The reality of Gen Z drinking habits and media behavior
  • Understanding brand assets: what’s truly distinctive vs. what’s wishful thinking
  • How the best ideas grow “legs” and evolve across touchpoints
  • Lessons from Captain Morgan, Diageo, and KFC on risk, timing, and creativity


Premium Stickiness Award: “Captain… Morgan.”

A simple, shoutable call-and-response that anyone can play—fun, familiar, and flexible. Sometimes the stickiest ideas are the ones you already know how to do.


Listen for a crash course in briefs, branding, and the beautiful disaster of trying to go viral on purpose. Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts, and keep following the On Brand mini-series as we turn marketing chaos into brand science clarity.


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#TeamFreeze #TeamMustache


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2 weeks ago
50 minutes 42 seconds

Cover Brand
Traps & Treasures with Crys Kelly

Vanity metrics like follower counts and impressions might make your digital dashboards sizzle, but do they actually move your brand forward? In this episode of Cover Brand, host Ethan Decker and guest Crys Kelly dive deep into the challenges marketers face when clients get fixated on the wrong data. Learn how to distinguish between “traps” (easy but useless metrics) and “treasures” (harder-to-measure, game-changing insights). Discover Ethan’s psychologically savvy “Data Grid” framework, proven tactics for gently persuading stakeholders, and creative ways to make the shift stick. Whether you’re a brand manager, marketer, or agency partner, this episode will help you cut through the noise and champion data that truly makes a difference.


Main Topics Covered:

  • Brian Justin Crumb’s cover of Alanis Morissette’s “Uninvited” and what makes musical crossovers magical
  • Crys Kelly’s experience connecting brand data and strategy in the agency world
  • Why brands often chase vanity metrics—and the pitfalls of focusing on impressions or follower counts
  • The “Data Grid” framework: Tools, Treasures, Traps, and Teases
  • How to persuade clients and colleagues to value meaningful metrics over vanity stats
  • Psychological approaches and playful tactics (like the “Fabio of Metrics”) to reframe conversations around data
  • The power of relatable brand role models in shifting KPI focus
  • Advice for agency and brand teams to align on what really matters


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Who Gives a Crap – The Brand Mentioned in This Episode
  • Read more about Stephen Covey’s 2x2 Matrix
  • Rory Sutherland on Behavioral Science in Marketing
  • Cover Brand Playlist on Spotify
  • Traps & Treasures Matrix


Ready to move your brand (or your clients) beyond vanity metrics and into growth that matters? Listen in for practical frameworks and real-world examples you can start using today! Want a copy of Ethan’s Data Grid? Go to appliedbrandscience.com for resources, visuals, and tools to guide your strategy meetings.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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2 weeks ago
18 minutes 58 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 4: Sip, Sip, Strategy — When “Viral” Meets “Operational”

What happens when Sonic asks for a year-round beverage that could go viral and sell a million units? You get an episode filled with cold brew, crackable cups, cowboy hats, and a surprising amount of brand science.


Ethan and Laura dissect the Sonic brief — part innovation challenge, part chaos generator — and explore what it teaches us about balancing creativity with scalability. They dive into why some “big ideas” break in the real world, how brand repetition beats originality, and why operational limits can be the secret ingredient in a good campaign.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The Sonic brief: product innovation meets brand storytelling
  • Why “make it viral” is the marketing equivalent of “just add sparkle”
  • The danger of overcomplicating great ideas (a.k.a. bacon bits in drinks)
  • Pickles, cold brew, and the weird logic of summer campaigns
  • When a brilliant idea dies in the drive-thru — operational feasibility 101
  • The Apple paradox: execution > invention
  • Fast followers, slow thinkers — how copying can still win
  • How research beats panic: the Bianca vs. Sabrina face-off
  • What Sonic teaches us about frequency, traffic, and repeat customers
  • Why “footfall” is the secret KPI most marketers forget


Premium Stickiness Award:

The Bourbon Caramel Cold Brew.

Fun to say, easy to remember, and nearly impossible not to hum. A little country, a little caffeine — the perfect mix of catchy and caffeinated.


From jingles to Java, this episode is a crash course in turning “viral dreams” into viable brand ideas. Tune in to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts, and keep following our On Brand mini-series for more lessons from the wild world where reality TV meets real marketing.


Think of this as brand strategy with a side of reality TV popcorn. Subscribe to Cover Brand for this special On Brand series, and share it with your marketing friends who secretly binge reality TV “for research.”


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#TeamBianca #TeamMahiri #TeamRyan #OnBrand



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3 weeks ago
48 minutes 38 seconds

Cover Brand
Benefits Not Buzzwords with Joel Grabois

Launching a new brand can feel overwhelming—but what if you're bringing an entirely new product to a crowded market? This episode of Cover Brand dives into the branding and positioning challenges faced by Joel Grabois, a media expert and founder of Blue Onion Media, as he launches Sweet Stack Media: the industry’s first AI-enhanced media planning toolkit.


Alongside stories of his journey from musician to media maven, Joel shares the thinking behind using memorable, category-breaking branding (think pancakes, not pixels!) and discusses why connecting your brand with customer needs trumps talking about features.

Host Ethan Decker delivers expert guidance on market segmentation, the “jobs to be done” framework, positioning strategy, and how to harness metaphors to make your brand instantly sticky and irresistible. If you’re wrestling with how to launch, differentiate, or explain a new offering—or just want to be inspired by creative brand thinking—this episode is your launchpad to brand brilliance.


Tune in to learn how to:

  • Cut through the noise with distinctive, memorable brand identities
  • Position your product using audience needs—not just features
  • Apply the “job to be done” approach for sharper brand strategy
  • Use metaphors and context to make your value instantly clear
  • Navigate branding challenges for AI, SaaS, and service brands
  • Learn from real-world examples and expert advice


Main Topics:

  • The story behind launching Sweet Stack Media, an AI-driven media planning tool
  • The importance of category-breaking branding in a crowded marketplace
  • How to position new products: Segmentation, needs, and “jobs to be done”
  • Messaging that focuses on customer benefits—beyond just features
  • Making your brand memorable through metaphor, context, and creativity
  • Building flexible agencies for the evolving landscape of marketing teams
  • Real-world challenges in introducing AI-powered services to SMBs
  • The role of creativity (and even music) in strategic branding


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Blue Onion Media
  • April Dunford on Positioning
  • Jobs to be Done Theory


Ready to build a brand that stands out and speaks directly to your audience’s needs? Apply the strategies shared in this episode—think outside your category, go beyond features, and frame your solution in a way your ideal client instantly understands. Check out the resources above and share your biggest branding challenge with us on social media!Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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3 weeks ago
36 minutes 6 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 3: Premium, Please — When “Value” Brands Go Glam

We’re back with another special edition of Cover Brand Covers On Brand—where Ethan Decker and co-host Laura Dodds break down Jimmy Fallon’s reality-meets-marketing series On Brand. This week’s client? Marshalls, the off-price retailer trying to convince America that discount shopping can still feel designer.

Together, Ethan and Laura unpack the creative chaos behind the Marshalls challenge: how do you sell “premium” without losing your value vibe? From GlamBots to pop-up closets, they explore what makes an activation actually on-brand, why some ideas shine on the runway but flop on the street, and how to balance creativity with client comfort zones.


This Week;

In this week’s On Brand breakdown, Ethan and Laura dive into Episode 3—where contestants pitch a “premium fashion” campaign for Marshalls. The brief? Showcase value and style, with a live Manhattan activation and digital billboard to match.


The conversation covers why most discount brands look—and sound—the same, what happens when agencies chase cleverness over clarity, and how subtle cues (like lighting, color, and composition) can make a campaign click. Ethan drops some brand science along the way, explaining why availability often beats originality, why you don’t actually need a tagline, and how small differences (like a blue carpet vs. a glam cam) can shape perception in a big way.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The Marshalls brief: premium feel vs. value price
  • Why similar brands (TJ Maxx, Ross, Burlington) blur together—and how to stand out
  • The real reason McDonald’s wins (hint: it’s not the burgers)
  • Taglines: nice-to-have lever, not a law
  • How customers really choose brands (spoiler: open hours > brand values)
  • Mahari’s “Discover Your Style Closet” vs. Lauren’s “Spotlight Ready” GlamBot
  • Why simple photography beat flashy tech
  • The psychology of risk-taking brands—and why Marshalls plays it safe
  • When to explore, when to exploit (and why both matter for creative testing)
  • Laura’s “Clueless Closet” activation—proof that 90s nostalgia never dies


Premium Stickiness Award:

Ryan’s “Lahmars” Boutique.

A gutsy (and slightly dangerous) stunt that flipped perception: same clothes, different price, totally different value signal. Risky? Yes. Memorable? Also yes.


Tune in for brand science, fashion drama, and a few dad jokes from the discount aisle. Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you pod, and keep following this special On Brand mini-series as we decode what reality TV can teach us about real-world branding.


Think of this as brand strategy with a side of reality TV popcorn. Subscribe to Cover Brand for this special On Brand series, and share it with your marketing friends who secretly binge reality TV “for research.”


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1 month ago
48 minutes 5 seconds

Cover Brand
Still Space, Camp with Julianna Strickland

Have you ever wondered how to position your business as the “Fred Segal” of your industry and attract clients who truly value what you offer? In this episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker and Julianna Strickland of Space Camp Organizing pull back the curtain on branding strategies for premium services.

Julianna reveals how she differentiated her home organization business in a saturated, often misunderstood market and turned quirky branding (and even legal run-ins) into a magnetic advantage. Learn proven tactics for qualifying leads, building strategic partnerships, and using “brand body language” to attract the right clients—and repel the wrong ones.


Whether you’re a founder, service provider, or marketer, this candid conversation is packed with actionable advice that will help you elevate your brand and build sustainable demand.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The power of a unique brand name and memorable merch
  • How to handle competition in a booming industry
  • Communicating your value to price-sensitive clients
  • Building referral relationships with top-tier designers
  • Using “brand neighborhood” exercises to position your business
  • Why experiential branding trumps cheap tactics (and how social proof wins)
  • Strategies for attracting and qualifying high-value leads
  • Making your service offering irresistible—even with premium pricing


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Space Camp Organizing — Julianna Strickland’s company
  • Applied Brand Science — Discover more on building science-backed branding
  • Fred Segal — Inspiration for premium boutique branding


Ready to level up your service business and attract clients who value what you do? Start by building strategic partnerships, refining your branding, and embracing your unique quirks. Take Julianna’s advice—nurture those high-value referral sources and don’t be afraid to position yourself in premium brand neighborhoods!

Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!

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1 month ago
29 minutes 8 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep 2: Legs, Loyalty & the Science of Staying On-Brand

In this week’s episode of On Brand, Southwest Airlines asks contestants to pitch a campaign for their “extra legroom” rollout — and the results are equal parts wild, weird, and wonderfully teachable. Ethan and Laura analyze the pitches, debate what actually makes a good brief, and dig into brand science lessons on clarity, differentiation, and human psychology.


You’ll hear why subtle differences in messaging can make or break a campaign, why clever isn’t always smart, and how “don’t make people think” applies as much to marketing as it does to airplane seating.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The power (and peril) of reading a creative brief correctly
  • “Blue Ocean Strategy” and how Southwest built differentiation that lasted decades
  • When being clever crosses into “toilet paper math” territory
  • How minor tweaks (a color, a line, a word) create major impact
  • Why Bianca’s “Take Up Space” campaign had heart — but drifted into orbit
  • What it means for a campaign to truly have “legs” (pun absolutely intended)
  • How the best ideas expand into airports, ads, and culture — not just PowerPoint slides
  • Lessons from “Forget the Unexpected”: why humans love certainty and hate surprises


🏆 Premium Stickiness Award:

“Take Up Space.”


Bold, human, and on-brand for a company built around heart. It wasn’t just about legroom — it was about belonging, confidence, and making room for people as they are. Sticky in spirit, even if it didn’t win on TV.


Tune in for brand science, creative chaos, and the occasional dad joke (because Ethan). Subscribe to Cover Brand wherever you get your podcasts, and keep following this special On Brand mini-series for more reality-TV-meets-real-marketing lessons. 


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#TeamBianca #TeamMahiri #TeamRyan #OnBrand


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1 month ago
47 minutes 46 seconds

Cover Brand
Brand Character with Michele Blazier

Is your brand feeling a little stale or corporate—and you’re not sure if you should lean into a quirky mascot or a more human-focused approach? In this episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker welcomes Michele Blazier from Bishop Fox to break down the art and science of refreshing your brand. Together, they explore engaging marketing tactics and debate the merits of mascots versus human-centric branding. You’ll discover why character (not just “characters”) is essential, hear lessons from iconic mascots like the Geico Gecko and Duolingo Owl, and get proven tips on testing new branding ideas with clients. Tune in for lively examples, strategic guidance, and inspiration for your company’s next creative leap. If you want your brand to connect, stand out, and actually mean something to your audience, this episode is a must-listen.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The debate: Mascot branding vs. human-centric branding
  • Avoiding stale, corporate vibes in B2B marketing
  • Injecting authentic character into your brand (not just using “a character”)
  • Iconic mascot examples (Geico Gecko, Aflac Duck, Michelin Man, Duolingo Owl, Pixar’s Wall-E)
  • How to authentically leverage street art, Easter eggs, and playful branding
  • Why testing and feedback are critical for successful rebrands
  • Staying true to your company culture while evolving your visual identity

Links to Additional Resources:

  • Bishop Fox – Offensive Security Experts
  • Pixar’s Wall-E Character Analysis
  • Duolingo Mascot Story
  • Salesforce Astro Character


Ready to energize your brand? Listen to this episode for actionable insights that balance personality with professionalism—and start testing new ideas that break through the noise. Embrace experimentation, stay true to your brand DNA, and don’t be afraid to let your character shine.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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1 month ago
19 minutes 19 seconds

Cover Brand
On Brand Ep. 1: Dunkin’, Jimmy Fallon & the Absurdity Olympics of Branding

What happens when Jimmy Fallon and Bozoma Saint John host a reality show about branding? Chaos, Dunkin’ coffee, and surprisingly useful lessons for marketers. In this special Cover Brand series, Ethan and Laura dissect each episode of on brand. to separate TV drama from actual brand science.


This week, we meet the cast, the judges, and the first brand challenge: convincing America that Dunkin’ sells breakfast, not just donuts. From “breakfast for doers” lunch pails to decision-fatigue-fighting “breakfast handled,” we examine why some ideas worked, why others tanked, and what marketers can learn from watching a game show disguised as a brand sprint.


Main Topics Covered:

  • Why “loud” ≠ “smart” in brand strategy (sorry, Jimmy)
  • The cast of On Brand: marketing pros, professors, and a honky-tonk MC turned brand guru
  • Dunkin’s surprisingly solid creative brief (rare unicorn alert)
  • Why similar campaign ideas crop up all the time—and why that’s not a problem
  • The winning ideas: “Breakfast for Doers” vs. “Breakfast Handl’d”
  • Merch matters: why a lunch pail might actually be smarter than a Magic 8-ball
  • The sticky phrase of the week: “Handl’d.”


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Watch on brand. with Jimmy Fallon on NBC/Peacock - https://www.nbc.com/on-brand-with-jimmy-fallon
  • Learn more about Dunkin’s brand history - https://news.dunkindonuts.com/blog/dunkin-donuts-then-and-now


Think of this as brand strategy with a side of reality TV popcorn. Subscribe to Cover Brand for this special On Brand series, and share it with your marketing friends who secretly binge reality TV “for research.”


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1 month ago
51 minutes 46 seconds

Cover Brand
Authenticity Paradox with Carl Roose

How can your brand stay authentic when AI is generating your content? In this engaging episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker sits down with Carl Roose—founder of MindTeam AI—to talk about bridging the gap between cutting-edge technology and lasting brand identity. Using real-world examples, witty banter, and deep insights from both biology and branding, they discuss how brands (from local garages to global icons) can uphold their reputation, avoid pitfalls, and connect meaningfully with audiences—even as AI becomes the backbone of digital marketing.


Listeners will leave with a more nuanced understanding of authenticity as a social construct, actionable tips on leveraging AI for their marketing without losing their brand’s soul, and a big-picture view of how brand trust is established (and sometimes broken) in today's digital world. If you want your business to stand out and resonate, this episode delivers the science, strategy, and stories you need.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The meaning and evolution of authenticity in branding
  • How AI is transforming brand communication and marketing workflows
  • The challenges (and myths) of maintaining an "authentic voice" with AI-generated content
  • The social science behind brand trust and reputation
  • Real-world cases: from mixtapes to Tommy Hilfiger and Dove’s “Campaign for Real Beauty”
  • Why being “too polished” isn’t necessarily inauthentic—and when it helps
  • Practical advice for small businesses and consultants using AI in their marketing
  • The paradox of authenticity: how it’s conferred and why it’s never just self-proclaimed


Links to Additional Resources:

  • MindTeam AI (Carl Roose’s consultancy)
  • Ethan Decker TED Talk: “We're All in Marketing: What Evolution Tells Us About Advertising"
  • Dove’s Campaign for Real Beauty


Enjoyed this episode? Take your brand to the next level by reflecting on how your business presents itself—online and offline. Test your messaging for “social authenticity” and explore how AI can sharpen, rather than dilute, your unique voice. Got questions, or want to share your brand’s transformation? Reach out to Cover Brand for more strategies and stories.Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing.


Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!

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1 month ago
38 minutes 55 seconds

Cover Brand
Branding Innovation with Billy Otteman

Are you struggling to communicate the unique value of a ground-breaking B2B product? In this episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker speaks with Billy Otteman from Scythe Robotics—a company redefining commercial landscaping with fully autonomous, all-electric mowers. Hear how Billy faces the classic innovation challenge: how do you convince a skeptical market to see value beyond the price tag? Learn about the power of simple, sticky brand cues (think “car door thunk” or lawn stripes), using emotional and cognitive shortcuts to drive decision-making, and creative demo ideas that can turn feature overload into customer delight. Whether you’re in tech, product marketing, or B2B sales, you’ll walk away with actionable lessons to simplify your message, nail ROI in seconds, and inspire your audience to come on the journey.


If you want to sell shockingly new ideas, command attention in tough markets, or simply master the art (and science) of branding, this episode is for you.


Main Topics Covered:

  • The branding and sales challenges of disruptive innovation
  • How Scythe Robotics is changing commercial landscaping with autonomous mowers
  • The role of classic branding cues (like perfectly straight lawn stripes) as shortcuts to perceived quality
  • Why most buyers crave easy mental shortcuts—and how to deliver them
  • Turning technical features and ROI into emotionally resonant soundbites
  • Lessons from Beyoncé, Dolly Parton, and Volvo’s legendary “epic split” ad
  • Practical tips for B2B storytelling and creative product demos


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Scythe Robotics
  • Volvo Trucks "Epic Split" Ad


Ready to make your brand’s value unmistakable—even when you’re changing the game? Take a page from Scythe Robotics and start leaning into the shortcuts that signal quality. Simplify your value prop, craft a sticky ROI message, and don’t forget to put some showmanship in your demos! Want help applying these strategies to your business? Visit appliedbrandscience.com for more insights and tools.


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1 month ago
24 minutes 25 seconds

Cover Brand
From Tamales to Tito’s: Branding Without the Jargon with Guillermo Saenz

Ever feel lost in a sea of marketing jargon? In this episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker and special guest Guillermo Saenz take the complexity out of branding and make it accessible for everyone, especially self-starters, side-hustlers, and entrepreneurs in underserved communities.

Drawing on Guillermo’s experience teaching small business owners at Mi Casa Resource Center and Ethan’s deep background in brand strategy, they discuss how reputation, memorable “handles,” and even simple business cards can make or break your business. Discover why you don’t need a fancy logo to start, how pricing signals value (not just cost!), and how to make branding work for YOU—even if you don’t speak the “MBA” language. If you want practical marketing strategies rooted in real science, this episode is your playbook for growing confidence and standing out.

Listen in to empower yourself with brand strategies that make a difference—no matter your starting point.

Main Topics Covered:

  • The real meaning and importance of "brand reputation" for small businesses
  • Breaking down marketing jargon into relatable language and tools
  • How to create a memorable handle, mascot, or symbol for your business—even on a shoestring budget
  • Why you don’t need a perfect logo to start building your brand
  • The science behind pricing: how it shapes perception and value
  • Overcoming imposter syndrome and building confidence as an entrepreneur
  • Actionable branding tips for kitchen table and backyard businesses
  • Business cards and packaging: small touches that create big impact
  • Psychological barriers (like price fears) and how to conquer them

Links to Additional Resources:

  • Mi Casa Resource Center
  • Duolingo’s Branding Case Study
  • Tito’s Handmade Vodka Brand Story
  • Yeti’s Pricing Strategy
  • Branding Basics: What is a Unique Value Proposition?


Ready to take the next step in your business journey? Start simple—define what you want your reputation to be, think about a memorable handle, and remember: people remember how you make them feel, not just what you sell. Don’t obsess over perfection. Get your business “out there” and let people know who you are and what you stand for.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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2 months ago
35 minutes 25 seconds

Cover Brand
New Brand Haircut with Arissa Kirkland

Are you struggling to figure out whether it’s time to refresh your brand—or go all-in on a full rebrand? In this episode of Cover Brand, host Ethan Decker chats with Arissa Kirkland, AVP of Marketing at Bishop Fox, about the real-world triggers that should drive your branding decisions. Arissa shares how Bishop Fox evolved from the ambiguous “Stack & Lou” to an edgy, human-focused brand, and why internal vision and external market research are essential in making the right call. You'll discover the pitfalls of changing too much too fast (hello, Tropicana disaster!), the importance of aligning internal culture with external perception, and actionable tactics for balancing your “Big B” (reputation) and “Little B” (visual identity). This episode is a must-listen for entrepreneurs, marketers, and business leaders looking for practical branding strategies that drive growth and build lasting connection.


Tune in if you want to—

  • Avoid costly branding mistakes
  • Confidently decide when and how to refresh your brand
  • Learn how to conduct meaningful brand surveys for real insights
  • Future-proof your brand while staying authentic


Main Topics Covered:

  • How to know when it’s time for a rebrand or a brand refresh
  • Lessons from famous rebranding failures and smart refreshes (Tropicana vs. Eggo)
  • The difference between Big B (reputation, company culture) and Little B (logos, colors, visuals)
  • The role of internal vision versus external market feedback in guiding branding changes
  • Actionable advice for running impactful brand research and surveys
  • How to smartly evolve your brand without losing customers or confusing your market
  • Real-life rebranding stories from Bishop Fox (including the origin of their unique name)


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Bishop Fox – Discover more about Arissa’s company
  • Sneakers (1992) - Marty Bishop reference
  • How Tropicana’s Rebrand Failed (Fast Company)


Ready to take your brand to the next level? Conduct a quick internal review of your brand’s vision, then reach out to your top customers and prospects for honest feedback. A fresh perspective could reveal critical opportunities for growth—or signal it’s time for your own brand refresh! And if you’re not sure where to start, revisit this episode for actionable tips and real-world inspiration.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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2 months ago
19 minutes 14 seconds

Cover Brand
The New Familiar with Josie Ellerbee

How do leading brands like Oreo, KFC, and Sephora manage to surprise and delight customers while remaining instantly recognizable? In this episode of CoverBrand, host Ethan Decker welcomes brand strategist Josie Ellerbee to explore the art and science of balancing stability with innovation. Josie shares insights from her 15+ year career, discussing the importance of a strong brand foundation amid the rise of AI, rampant templating, and a marketplace craving for both reliability and novelty.


Listeners will discover actionable tactics—whether you run a consumer goods powerhouse, a B2B firm, or a service-based organization—to avoid the pitfalls of becoming too predictable or chaotically inconsistent. Tune in for practical strategies, fresh examples, and expert wisdom on how to make your brand stand out for the right reasons.


Main Topics Covered:

  • Why brands struggle between being too consistent (boring) or too novel (chaotic)
  • Real-life branding wins: Oreo's celebrity collabs, KFC’s creative Colonel swaps, Cards Against Humanity’s brilliant stunts
  • When and how to refresh a brand without losing its identity
  • The impact of AI on branding—both for systematizing and pushing creativity
  • How even B2B and service brands can inject novelty without diluting their message
  • Creating flexible but focused brand strategies to guide innovation
  • The importance of brand strategy in navigating change and maintaining relevance


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Work with Josie. 
  • The Bear (FX TV show featuring Eddie Vedder’s cover): The Bear on Hulu


Feeling stuck between too much sameness and risky chaos in your branding? Want to leverage novelty without losing your brand’s core identity? This episode is your playbook. For personalized guidance, reach out to Josie Ellerbee or visit appliedbrandscience.com for more on building resilient, engaging brands in the AI era.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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2 months ago
24 minutes 20 seconds

Cover Brand
Relevant to the Elephant with Drew Bonder

What makes a brand unforgettable? In this value-packed episode of Cover Brand, Ethan Decker sits down with Drew Bonder, founder of Focus Energy, for a deep dive into the world of branding, messaging, and organizational success. Starting with a memorable story about rallying a crowd at an Eve 6 concert, Drew shares how his background in mental health shaped his approach to building sustainable, supportive environments—both for people and for brands.

Listeners will discover why sticky, punchy messaging beats dry precision every time, and how to translate complex offerings into headlines that resonate. Ethan and Drew dissect real-world examples from Geico and Apple, offering actionable advice for leaders trying to connect with their audience on an emotional level. Whether you're a founder, marketer, or entrepreneur, you’ll gain insights to help you clarify your brand’s promise, boost team cohesion, and craft messages your market can’t forget.


Main Topics Covered

  • Why emotional benefits drive brand stickiness—far beyond features and precision
  • Translating complex offers into memorable, succinct brand messaging
  • The journey from therapy and organizational psychology to finance and brand strategy
  • The importance of systems, support, and context for organizational success
  • Crafting messaging that helps customers "underthink" your value
  • Lessons from Geico, Apple, and other stickiest brands
  • Aligning internal culture around a simple, clear brand promise


Links to Additional Resources

  • Focus Energy – Learn more about Drew Bonder’s team
  • Geico’s Iconic 15 Minutes Pitch: The Genius Behind the Tagline
  • Apple’s Most Memorable Campaigns


Want to make your brand truly unforgettable—and irresistibly sticky? Focus on emotional benefits, not just features. Try distilling your story into a simple, punchy message, and watch both your customers and your team rally around it. For more examples and hands-on advice, explore our resources below or connect with Ethan and Drew directly.


Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!

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2 months ago
24 minutes 37 seconds

Cover Brand
Geek Out, Get Noticed with Melanie Jennings

Aug 5-24: Head over to panelpicker.sxsw.com/vote for my talk: The True Cost of Being a Boring Brand


Think being a great writer is enough to get published today? Think again. In this episode, host Ethan Decker welcomes Melanie Jennings, a novelist on the cusp of publishing her first fiction book, to talk honestly about what it takes to build an author brand in a crowded market. If you’ve ever wondered how to grow your audience without feeling salesy, this is your blueprint—whether you’re an introvert, poet, tech writer, or just getting started.


Melanie shares her real struggles and successes using Substack, freelance journalism, and small steps on social media. Ethan provides actionable advice from the science of branding: why chasing “superfans” isn’t the only strategy, how the “banana curve” of fandom applies to authors, and what practical levers to pull across platforms to become known in your niche. If you need encouragement to showcase your work—or just a nudge to finally start sharing—this conversation will help you find your confidence (and your readers).


Main Topics Covered:

  • Real-world branding challenges for emerging authors
  • The importance of building an audience before your book launches
  • The “banana curve” of fandom: why not everyone will be a superfan—and why that matters
  • Using platforms like Substack, freelance work, and Instagram to grow your reach
  • Overcoming self-promotion jitters (especially for introverts and private people)
  • How to strategically engage in communities related to your genre or subject matter
  • Practical experimentation: Trying multiple platforms and approaches
  • Leveraging the support of existing networks to showcase your evolving creative identity


Links to Additional Resources:

  • Persuasion Magazine — Where Melanie’s essays went viral
  • Melanie's Substack — Melanie’s Substack
  • Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt
  • Educated by Tara Westover
  • Emma Cline’s The Girls


Ready to stop hiding your talents and start building your name? Geek out, experiment, and get your work out there—the world is waiting for your voice. Join other writers and creators boosting their brands with Cover Brand’s proven strategies.Subscribe to Cover Brand for more insights into the world of branding and marketing. Share this episode with a friend who could benefit from these strategies, and head over to appliedbrandscience.com to dive deeper into the principles of brand science. Your success starts here!


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3 months ago
26 minutes 44 seconds

Cover Brand

Uncover the secrets of successful branding with Cover Brand!


Join host Ethan Decker as he delves into the science-backed principles of marketing, advertising, and brand growth. With insights drawn from a career working with industry giants like Nike and PepsiCo, Ethan translates complex strategies into actionable advice for businesses, nonprofits, and organizations of all sizes. Tune in to understand the commonalities that drive effective branding and learn how to wisely invest your precious time and resources. Get ready for a fun and informative journey that could transform your venture into a thriving success.


Subscribe now and expand your brand horizons!


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