We’re live from the Independent Hotel Show in Miami, Florida, joined by Munir Maluf, CEO & Founder of MP Parking.
In this episode, we dive into the future of hotel valet parking and how the Smart Valet Podium is transforming the guest arrival experience.
Munir shares his insights on:
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Le VALET: https://www.levalets.com/
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In this episode, we sit down with Jaimey Bembry, CEO & Founder of Bhlen, to explore how hotels can transform the guest experience by replacing outdated paper lists and brochures with digital guest guides.
Discover how Bhlen helps hotels and hospitality brands:
From digitizing local restaurant guides to creating experience-as-a-service platforms, Bhlen is changing how travelers discover cities, attractions, and hidden gems—directly from their phones.
If you’re a hotelier, destination manager, or travel industry professional, this episode will give you actionable insights on the future of guest engagement and why the next generation of hospitality is digital-first.
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Website: www.bhlen.com
Email: info@bhlen.com
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In this episode, recorded live at the Independent Hotel Show in Miami, hosts Steve and David sit down with Gage Johnston from Dalla Corte, a Milan-based manufacturer of premium espresso machines and grinders.
Gage shares how Dalla Corte is helping boutique and independent hotels elevate their coffee programs with innovative automation, Italian design, and practical solutions for low-staff environments. From the Icon Espresso Machine that simplifies latte art and recipe consistency, to strategies for reducing "coffee leakage" when guests leave for Starbucks across the street, this conversation dives deep into the future of coffee in hospitality.
You’ll hear about:
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Dalla Corte: https://dallacorte.com/usa/
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In this episode, we sit down at the Independent Hotel Show in Miami with Venkatesh Sakamuri, CEO of Stayflexi, and Krishna Talasila, CIO & Co-Founder of Stayflexi, to explore how they’re transforming hospitality technology.
Venkatesh introduces Stayflexi IQ, their new AI-powered data intelligence and revenue management platform designed to help independent hotels compete with big brands. He shares insights on the future of AI in hospitality, the importance of demand and competitor intelligence, and why an all-in-one PMS platform enhances the guest journey.
Krishna dives into lessons learned from expanding in India, how Stayflexi scaled to over 3,500 properties worldwide, and why they’re now doubling down in the U.S. market. He also explains how Stayflexi IQ can integrate seamlessly with existing hotel systems, giving hoteliers actionable insights without a complete tech overhaul.
If you’re a hotelier, hospitality professional, or simply interested in the future of hotel tech, AI, and revenue management, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.
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Stayflexi: https://business.stayflexi.com/
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In this episode, David and Steve sit down in person with global traveler and hospitality expert Scott Eddy at the Independent Hotel Show in Miami.
Scott shares why he believes independent hotels have a major edge over big brands, the growing importance of wellness and quiet luxury, and why storytelling and showcasing the destination and people are key to standing out. From behind-the-scenes F&B experiences to his personal travel habits, Scott offers real insights for hoteliers looking to connect with both locals and travelers.
We also dive into:
Whether you’re in the hotel business or just love travel, this conversation will inspire you to think differently about hospitality, community, and creating unforgettable guest experiences.
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Website: https://www.mrscotteddy.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrscotteddy/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrscotteddy/
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In this episode, hosts David Millili and Steve Carran sit down with Trent Freeman, Vice President of Operations at Valencia Hotel Group. With over 25 years of experience in hospitality and leadership roles at Four Seasons, Omni, and Peabody Hotels & Resorts, Trent brings a wealth of knowledge and passion for creating authentic guest experiences.
He shares how his career journey—from starting at the front desk to leading operations across Valencia’s boutique luxury properties—shaped his leadership style and perspective on culture, community, and authenticity in hospitality.
We dive into:
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Valencia Hotel Group: https://www.valenciahotelgroup.com/
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In this episode, hosts David Millili and Steve Carran, sit down for a fast-paced and insightful conversation with Steven Kinsley, President of Kinsley Meetings. From his beginnings as a Ski Bum in Vail to leading a nationally recognized meetings and events company, Steve shares stories, lessons, and perspectives shaped by decades in hospitality and association event planning.
What You’ll Hear in This Episode:
This episode blends personal storytelling, career insights, and industry thought leadership—perfect for hoteliers, event planners, and anyone curious about the future of hospitality and meetings.
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In this episode, we sit down with Chef Ken Butler, Executive Chef at Hotel Polaris, to explore the art of hospitality, the evolution of food and beverage trends, and the behind-the-scenes dedication that makes guest experiences unforgettable. From rooftop sushi to locally sourced Colorado flavors, Chef Ken shares his insights on how culinary innovation and health-conscious choices are shaping the future of dining.
Topics covered in this episode:
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Hotel Polaris | A Colorado Springs Hotel: https://www.thehotelpolaris.com/
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In this episode, we sit down with Nick Nations, Director of Rooms at Hotel Polaris, to explore how genuine care, communication, and technology combine to create unforgettable guest experiences. Nick shares his philosophy on hospitality, why personality and compassion matter more than processes, and how his team leverages both tech and heart-first service to delight guests.
Whether you’re in hospitality leadership or simply love great service stories, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.
Topics We Cover:
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Hotel Polaris | A Colorado Springs Hotel: https://www.thehotelpolaris.com/
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In this episode, we sit down with Kevin Barosso, Director of Sales and Marketing at Hotel Polaris, to explore how the property is redefining the balance between business and leisure travel in Colorado Springs. From versatile dining and meeting spaces to unique leisure amenities, Kevin shares how the hotel is creating experiences that attract both professionals and families. He also dives into the evolving role of artificial intelligence in hotel marketing and what that means for the future of hospitality.
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CoralTree Hospitality: https://www.coraltreehospitality.com/
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In this episode, we sit down with Curtis Bova, General Manager of Hotel Polaris in Colorado Springs, located right outside the U.S. Air Force Academy. Curtis shares the inspiring journey behind the hotel’s creation, its deep-rooted connection to the Academy, and how it has become a true neighbor within the local community.
From its mid-century modern design inspired by the Academy to the service philosophy built on integrity, service, and excellence, Hotel Polaris stands as a one-of-a-kind property. Curtis reflects on the challenges, history, and vision that brought this project to life after decades in the making.
What you’ll hear in this episode:
This conversation is a deep dive into hospitality, community, and vision—showing what it means to create not just a hotel, but an experience that embodies pride, service, and connection.
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CoralTree Hospitality: https://www.coraltreehospitality.com/
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In this episode of The Modern Hotelier: Hospitality Hot Topics with Steve Carran and David Millili are joined by hospitality strategist Mandy Murry to break down the biggest trends and stories shaping the industry in August 2025. From evolving travel trends and the rise of AI trip planning to Soho House going private, Booking.com launching a credit card, and Airbnb’s fee hikes, the team explores how these shifts are impacting hoteliers, guests, and the future of travel.
They also discuss the growing demand for local, immersive experiences, the resurgence of hotel lobby bars and speakeasies, and what multi-generational travel and micro-cations mean for operators. Mandy shares updates on her work at Hospitality Concierge and offers insights on where the industry is headed next.
Here’s what we cover:
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Mandy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allmandy/
Mandy's website: https://mandymurry.com/
Related Links:
U.S. Traveler Trends in 2025
SOHO House to Go Private in $2.7 Billion Deal Led by MCR Hotels
Booking.com Launches Credit Card
Vacation Rentals outperform hotels
Airbnb raises service fee for Property Managers from 15.5% to 3%
Forbes: Inside the Worlds Best Secret Hotel Bars
What is New With Hospitality Concierge?
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In this episode, hosts Steve Carran and David Millili sit down with Michael Weiss, co-founder and co-CEO of Trailborn, a brand redefining outdoor hospitality.
Michael shares his journey from Goldman Sachs to Airbnb and Compass, to ultimately launching Trailborn—boutique, design-forward hotels in outdoor destinations like national parks, wine country, and coastal getaways. Listeners will hear how Mike and his partner identified a white space in the market, why outdoor hospitality is booming post-COVID, and how Trailborn is bridging the gap between camping and traditional luxury hotels.
We also dive into:
If you’re curious about innovation in hospitality, the rise of outdoor travel, or how design and experience shape modern brands, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.
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Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikedweiss/
Trailborn: https://www.trailborn.com/
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In this episode, David Millili and Steve Carran sit down with Elle Rustique, Founder and CEO of TipBrightly—a FinTech company revolutionizing tipping through easy, cashless, app-free technology. Inspired by her mother, a hotel housekeeper, Elle turned a personal story into a mission to create more equity, gratitude, and recognition for frontline hospitality workers.
Elle shares her journey from education and entrepreneurship to launching TipBrightly in Silicon Valley, the challenges of breaking into hospitality tech without prior industry experience, and how cashless tipping is helping hotels improve employee morale, retention, and guest satisfaction. She also discusses the power of data, future trends in digital tipping, and offers advice for aspiring hospitality entrepreneurs.
From heartfelt stories about how tipping changed employees’ lives, to practical insights on navigating long sales cycles and industry adoption, this conversation is both inspiring and thought-provoking.
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Elle on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erustique/
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In this episode, hosts Steve Carran and David Millili sit down with Jon Buerge, President of Urban Villages, to explore how sustainable development is reshaping hospitality. From his upbringing in Aspen and a deep-rooted love of nature to leading innovative, carbon-positive hotel projects like Populus, Jon shares how design, community, and environmental stewardship come together to create places where both people and the planet thrive.
Listeners will hear Jon’s perspective on:
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Urban Villages: https://urban-villages.com/
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In this episode, hosts David Millili and Steve Carran sit down with Eoin Heavey, CEO and founder of Maitre, a modern operating system built specifically for independent hotels. With a unique background spanning both technology and hospitality, Eoin shares his journey—from growing up in Dublin and playing competitive tennis at UC Berkeley to working in consulting, hedge funds, and venture capital—before launching businesses that eventually led him into the world of hotels.
He discusses the inspiration behind Maitre and how it helps hotels streamline operations, improve team communication, and deliver exceptional guest service—all without the burden of legacy systems.
In this episode, you’ll learn about:
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Eoin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoinheavey/
Maitre LLC: https://maitrehotel.com/
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This week’s episode, David Millili and Steve Carran sit down with Stacy Warner, Executive Vice President at Eat.Drink.Sleep., the boutique hospitality group known for concept-driven hotels, restaurants, and bars that blend standout design with unforgettable guest experiences.
Stacy shares her journey from a small town in Massachusetts to shaping some of California’s most creative hospitality projects, including the iconic Tower 23 Hotel. She talks about her People First philosophy, why she believes independent hotels offer the best growth opportunities, and how Eat.Drink.Sleep. balances design ambition with operational excellence through their in-house creative studio.
From navigating unique project challenges (like renovating a hotel on Catalina Island) to leading teams in an era of shifting workplace expectations, Stacy offers candid insights into what it takes to create spaces where both guests and employees thrive.
You’ll also hear her take on:
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Eat.Drink.Sleep (EDS) Hospitality Group: https://eatdrinkandsleep.net/
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In today’s episode, David and Steve talk with Mark Keiser, President of Development at Viceroy Hotels & Resorts, about his journey from a suburban upbringing and a year abroad in France to leading the brand’s global growth. Mark shares early career lessons—including taking on a GM role with zero hotel experience—the evolution of luxury lifestyle hospitality, and Viceroy’s approach to creating authentic local experiences, from tequila tastings in Mexico to beekeeping in Portugal. They also explore emerging markets, branded residences, and how Viceroy balances profitability with memorable guest connections.
With over 25 years in hospitality, Mark has led the growth of iconic hotel brands and now drives Viceroy’s global expansion. He shares his journey, lessons learned, and the brand’s vision for redefining luxury travel.
Topics include:
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Viceroy Hotels and Resorts: https://www.viceroyhotelsandresorts.com/
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In this Hospitality Hot Topics edition of The Modern Hotelier, hosts Steve Carran and David Millili are joined by Ryan Rivett, President & CEO of My Place Hotels, to unpack July’s biggest hospitality trends.
From the TSA finally ditching the shoe-removal rule, to the rise of micro-cations and adventure travel, to the luxury sleep experience movement, the trio explores how these shifts are shaping guest expectations and industry strategies. Ryan also gives an insider look at My Place Hotels’ rapid growth, their tech-forward approach to guest loyalty, and how they’re adapting to evolving travel patterns.
If you want a fast-paced, insightful conversation about what’s next in hospitality—plus a few laughs—this episode delivers.
Topics Covered:
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Ryan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-rivett-09984311
Ryan on X: https://x.com/RyanJRivett
My Place Hotels: https://www.myplacehotels.com/
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On today’s episode, David Millili and Steve Carran sit down with Michael Hirschler, Chief Growth Officer at Staypineapple, live from Staypineapple Chicago. Michael shares how the brand is redefining boutique hospitality through a combination of 'friend-style' service, a bold brand identity, and guest-focused innovation.
They dive deep into Staypineapple’s growth strategy—from owner-operator beginnings to expanding through licensing and management—and how their flexible, cost-effective model provides a compelling alternative to legacy hotel brands. Michael also unpacks their cutting-edge tech stack, the role of AI in enhancing (not replacing) hospitality, and why true guest service still starts with emotionally intelligent people.
Topics covered include:
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Staypineapple: https://www.staypineapple.com/
Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhirschler/
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