What if your customer conversations held the keys to your next revenue breakthrough?

Ryan Johnson, Chief Product Officer at CallRail, joins us live to explore how AI is reshaping the way modern businesses understand, engage, and convert their leads.

With more than 15 years of experience growing product teams and scaling platforms to $100M+ ARR, Ryan brings a powerful blend of startup grit and enterprise insight.

Before CallRail, he helped scale Banjo's AI innovation through a $100M Series C, and played a pivotal role in growing Vitrue into a $330M acquisition by Oracle.

Today, he’s leading the charge on conversation intelligence transforming raw customer dialogue into high-impact data.

In this episode, we’ll dive into:

1. Conversation Intelligence: Unlocking Insights from Every Interaction

2. Lead Conversion: Turning Interest into Revenue

3. AI Innovation: Driving the Next Breakthroughs

4. Tech Stack

Whether you're building with AI, selling smarter, or trying to align product and revenue, this is a session you don’t want to miss.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data is for the marketers who know their martech stack is only as strong as their data foundation.

We’re going live with Ana Mourão (again), Global CRM & CDP Advisor at Stanley Black & Decker, Inc. and one of the sharpest voices in first-party data strategy.

Ana has unified 7M+ customer profiles across global markets, cut acquisition costs by 15%, and built data frameworks that actually move the needle on ROI. She's not just tech-smart she’s outcome-obsessed.

1. We'll be talking about what first-party data strategy really means and why it’s your moat

2. The real difference between 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party data (no fluff, just clarity)

3. How clean rooms and smarter data governance can power your campaigns and your career

4. Tech Stack

Come welcome Ana Mourão back on the show with us today!!

What if your search data could tell you what your customers want and where they are?

Join us on Deconstructing Data as we sit down with David Hunter, CEO of Local Falcon, the leading local rank tracker transforming how businesses see search visibility.

With over a decade of experience in SEO and digital strategy, David has helped businesses, from startups to enterprises, tap into hyperlocal data to drive growth and outpace the competition.

In this episode, we’re exploring:

1. Local Data in AI: The Missing Link

2. AI and Local Search: From Data to Strategy

3. Hyperlocal Marketing Automation: Trends, Tactics, and Takeaways

4. Tech Stack

If you’ve been thinking of search as one-size-fits-all, think again.

As AI transforms marketing and customer data becomes a new form of digital currency, the rules of engagement are changing fast.

In this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Ted Sfikas, Field CTO at Amplitude, where he helps enterprise teams unlock the full value of their data strategies.

With deep expertise in SaaS, digital marketing, AdTech, and AI, Ted brings a forward-thinking yet practical lens to how brands can navigate the next era of data ownership, transparency, and innovation.

We’ll cover:

1. Digital Currency: Empowering Data Ownership and Literacy

2. AI and Avatars: The Future of Marketing

3. AI-Created Data: Building Trust Through Transparency

4. Tech Stack

If you're building smarter, more ethical, and more human-centered AI marketing strategies, this conversation will challenge your thinking, and give you the tools to lead with clarity.

Email may be one of the oldest digital marketing tools but it's far from outdated. With AI and automation, it’s getting a major upgrade.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Brian Minick, Chief Operating Officer at ZeroBounce, a leader in email deliverability, validation, and data hygiene.

Brian brings firsthand insight into how smarter data and automation are reshaping outbound strategy, from building cleaner lists to driving higher engagement and ROI.

We’ll explore:

1. AI-Powered Sales: Smarter Outbound Automation Strategies

2. Data-Driven Marketing: Unlocking Customer Intelligence

3. Scaling Growth: Data and Automation for All

4. Tech Stack

Whether you're scaling a sales team or optimizing your marketing funnel, this episode is packed with tactical advice and fresh perspective on what AI and data can do for your outbound efforts.

Real estate marketing is undergoing a major shift, and the smartest teams are starting with the voice of the renter.On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Michael Broder, Co-Founder and CEO of RCKRBX, the first real estate SaaS platform built to bring demand-side insights directly to multifamily developers, investors, and marketers. Michael is also Chairman of Brightline Strategies and has spent over two decades at the intersection of political strategy, behavioral research, and audience-driven messaging.Before founding RCKRBX, Michael served as a media consultant and strategist for high-profile political campaigns across the Northeast and worked in the Office of Political Affairs under the first Bush Administration. His background in political communications and campaign management informs how he approaches real estate, not just as a property play, but as a people-first, data-powered opportunity.We’ll dive into:Using Demand Data – How renter sentiment is transforming marketing strategy.Predicting Rental Performance – Leveraging behavioral data to forecast leasing outcomes.Cross-Industry Insights – Applying lessons from politics and CPG to real estate.Tech Stack – The tools enabling smarter, more responsive marketing.If you want to understand where multifamily marketing is headed and what it looks like when you finally put the renter at the center, don’t miss this episode.

What does it take to build trust and results through partner marketing today?On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Tye DeGrange, CEO of Round Barn Labs and a growth expert with nearly two decades of experience driving acquisition and retention for both Fortune 500 brands and high-growth startups. From eBay to Amazon to advising VC-backed companies, Tye has seen what works and what doesn’t, when it comes to scaling through data-driven strategy.We’ll dive into:1. Partner Marketing: Driving Growth Through Collaboration2. Attribution: Tracking What Truly Drives Results3. Incrementality: Measuring True Marketing Impact Effectively4. Tech StackIf you're ready to cut through the fluff and talk real growth, this is the episode to catch.

Generative AI may be dominating the headlines but it’s only the starting point.In this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Ron Green, Co-founder and CTO, a serial tech entrepreneur and AI expert with multiple successful exits under his belt. With an MSc in Artificial Intelligence and decades of hands-on experience, Ron brings a sharp perspective on where AI is heading and how to separate real impact from the hype.We’ll explore:1. Day Zero of AI: Generative AI is Just the Beginning2. Beyond Generative AI: Expanding the Possibilities3. Applying AI: Beyond Hype to Real Impact4. Tech StackIf you're looking to cut through the noise and get a clearer picture of where AI is going next, this is the conversation you’ll want to be part of.

Advertising is evolving, fast. And data is at the center of it.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Omar Tawakol, CEO and Founder of Rembrand, a visionary leader with a deep track record in AI, data, and digital advertising.

Omar brings a bold perspective on how brands can move beyond basic metrics and start leveraging data to truly transform business growth, strategy, and marketing decisions.

We’ll explore:

1. AI and Big Data: Revolutionizing Storytelling and Branding

2. Data-Driven Insights: Smarter, Personalized Marketing Decisions

3. Predictive Analytics: Fueling Business Growth and Strategy

4. Tech Stack

If you're ready to think beyond the click and reimagine what’s possible with data, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Not all marketing data is created equal and sometimes, what you don’t see is what matters most.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Emeric Ernoult, CEO and co-founder of Agorapulse, a leading social media management platform. With 25 years of experience in SaaS and social media, Emeric brings a refreshingly honest take on what it really means to be data-driven and how to cut through the noise to find what actually works.

We’ll get into:

1. Marketing Metrics: What Should You Measure?

2. Being Data-Driven: Team or Mindset?

3. Getting the Right Data: Clarity Over Clutter

4. Tech Stack

If your marketing feels like it’s missing something below the surface, this conversation is for you.

Data is only as powerful as what you do with it and how well you understand the people behind it.In this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Mike Hattub, Chief Solutions Officer at AnalyticsIQ, where data science meets cognitive psychology. With over 30 years of experience in database marketing, consulting, and financial services, Mike helps brands turn complex data into smarter strategies that fuel real growth.We’ll explore:1. Building a Best-in-Class Third-Party Data Asset2. Leveraging CogPsy: Powering Smarter Data Creation3. Custom Data Models: Driving Client Success4. Tech StackIf you're looking to better understand consumer behavior and unlock the full potential of your data, this is one you won’t want to miss.

AI is changing how we understand consumers and the shift is just getting started.

On this, Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Suraj Narayanan Sasikumar, Chief Technology Officer at Socialtrait and a researcher in deep reinforcement learning and generative modeling. Suraj brings a rare mix of hands-on AI expertise and real-world application, leading cutting-edge innovation at the intersection of technology, marketing, and human behavior.

We’ll dig into:

- Transforming Consumer Research with AI Personas

- Driving Innovation and Marketing Success with AI Insights

- Ethical Considerations in AI-Driven Consumer Insights

- Tech Stack

If you're curious about how AI is transforming the way brands think about their audiences, this is an episode you’ll want to catch.

Consumer behavior is shifting fast and AI is leading the way.

In this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Mike Ford, CEO of Skydeo, a leader in data-driven insights and technology innovation. With experience founding multiple tech companies, Mike brings a sharp perspective on how AI is reshaping personalization, travel, and dining trends for 2025.

We’ll explore:

1. AI & Tech: Personalizing Customer Experiences in 2025

2. Travel Trends 2025: AI & Digital Influence

3. The Ozempic Effect: Changing Dining Trends in 2025

4. Tech Stack

If you want a glimpse into what’s next in AI, travel, and food, this is the conversation to catch.

The future of advertising is here and it’s powered by AI and first-party data.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data, we’re joined by Rajiv Khaneja, CEO & Founder of AdButler, an expert in ad tech, entrepreneurship, and data-driven innovation. With a deep focus on privacy-first advertising, Rajiv is helping brands navigate the shift toward AI-powered targeting and optimization.

We’ll explore:

1. AI-Driven Micro-Targeting Using First-Party Data

2. Real-Time Ad Optimization with AI

3. AI-Powered Audience Profiling and Predictive Insights

4. Tech Stack

If you want to stay ahead in the evolving world of ad tech, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

What does it take to drive massive business growth through data? According to Robin Patra, it’s not just dashboards and KPIs—it’s aligning people, processes, and systems with real intelligence.

In this episode of Deconstructing Data, host Jessie Lizak (Fractional CMO at BDEX) and Adam Fitzgerald (Enterprise Sales Director at BDEX) sit down with Robin Patra, the Director of Data, Analytics & AI at ARCO Construction. With 20+ years of experience spanning Cisco, BlackRock, and now construction, Robin brings a uniquely human-centered lens to data strategy and digital transformation.

This episode is packed with gold for data leaders, marketers, and tech professionals who want to use data to create clarity from complexity, unlock innovation, and build cultures that scale smarter.

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🔍 In this episode, we explore:

1. Data Strategy: Turning Insight into Action
→ Robin breaks down the true purpose of data strategy—one rooted in ROI, clarity, and integration into enterprise fabric.
→ Key quote: “Data should be quantifiable, tied to business objectives, and never standalone.”

2. Managing Data & Driving Digital Transformation
→ Hear how ARCO is using data to connect the job site with leadership, automate manual workflows, and drive operational precision.
→ Robin shares a simple framework: Simplify. Automate. Optimize.

3. Data & AI: Powering Smarter Decisions
→ Learn how Robin applies AI in real-world scenarios—from estimating multimillion-dollar construction projects to preventing risks before they arise.
→ We explore the future of AI in decision-making: information augmentation, real-time recommendations, and intelligent dashboards that actually do something.

4. Change Management & Data Culture
→ Robin gets real about resistance to change: “Data transformation isn’t technical. It’s emotional. It’s people.”
→ Discover how to turn end users into advocates and create an internal culture that embraces innovation without fear.

5. Data in Construction: Use Cases You’ve Never Heard
→ From AI-powered risk assessments to AI-assisted workforce planning and vendor selection, Robin pulls back the curtain on how construction companies can use data to increase safety, reduce costs, and win business faster.

6. Tech Stack Deep Dive
→ Robin shares his go-to tools, including Databricks, Snowflake, Tableau, Power BI, Grafana, Microsoft Fabric, and a custom-built internal Analytics App Store powered by React and Python for real-time decision-making.

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🎯 Key Takeaways:

• You can’t scale with dashboards alone—data must be actionable.
• AI’s real power lies in augmenting decisions, not replacing jobs.
• Change fails when people are left out—empathy and influence are critical to any successful digital transformation.
• The secret to long-term data leadership? “Understand the business. Tell the story. Influence the people.”

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📌 Standout Quotes:

• “Every enterprise has three pillars—people, process, and systems. The common thread? Data.”
• “We’re not a cost center. Data is an enabler for the business.”
• “Make your data strategy about impact—not infrastructure.”
• “If people feel change is happening to them, it fails. Let them co-create it.”

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🔗 Connect with Robin Patra
Robin is active on LinkedIn and welcomes collaboration. You can also learn more about his work at ARCO Construction, where he’s currently scaling enterprise-wide risk management and productivity systems driven by data and AI.

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Whether you're trying to modernize your company’s data approach, launch an AI initiative, or build a more human-centered data culture—this episode will give you actionable insights to lead with clarity and purpose.

→ Listen now on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
→ For more episodes, visit www.bdex.com/deconstructing-data-podcast

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Episodes air Thursdays at 4:15 PM EST on LinkedIn & YouTube.

What happens when your CEO and CMO are both out, and the tech and sales teams take the reins? You get one of the most dynamic and insightful episodes of Deconstructing Data to date.

In this special episode, BDEX's Chief Technology Officer David Wellborn and Enterprise Sales Director Adam Fitzgerald host Bill Bruno, CEO of Celebrus. Broadcasting live while Jessie Lizak (Fractional CMO at BDEX) was on the road in Florida and David Finkelstein (CEO of BDEX) was tending to family matters, this episode didn’t skip a beat. Instead, it delivered one of the most valuable conversations we've had this season.

With over two decades in the data and analytics industry, Bill Bruno has lived through the evolution of digital marketing—from the early days of web analytics to today’s complex landscape of AI, compliance, and personalization. He brings his no-BS perspective to the mic and shares how Celebrus is building deterministic, cookieless, and compliant data strategies for some of the world’s top brands—including three of the top five global banks.

🔍 What we cover in this episode:

• Capturing Digital Data: Why Quality Matters
Bill explains why most companies are stuck with legacy tools and low-quality data—and how that compromises everything from personalization to AI models.

• More Data ≠ Better Data
We tackle the myth that collecting more data is always better. Bill challenges this with the idea that “inaccurate data is the real problem,” especially in today’s AI-driven world.

• Cookieless Tracking & Deterministic Identity
Celebrus has pioneered anonymized data collection—giving brands visibility while respecting privacy. We break down what “cookieless” really means and how it’s changing compliance.

• Personalization at Scale (Without the Creep Factor)
From product recommendations to on-site behavior tracking, we discuss what true personalization looks like, how to start small, and how to avoid “creepy” customer experiences.

• CDP Controversy
Bill drops a hot take: “If your first step to personalization is buying a CDP, you’re doing it wrong.” He dives into why so many CDP projects fail—and what to do instead.

• Fraud Prevention with Behavioral Biometrics
Learn how Celebrus is using digital data in real-time to fight fraud—reducing false positives and protecting customer experiences before damage is done.

• Tech Stack Talk
While Bill’s day-to-day tools are simple, his team at Celebrus is working on some exciting things with Kubernetes, AWS, and AI-enhanced analytics through Metabase and beyond.

• Why Better Data Means Better Business
The key takeaway? Quality data isn’t just for marketing—it’s the connective tissue for fraud prevention, customer experience, compliance, and revenue growth.

🔥 Bonus Insight:
You’ll hear live questions from listeners around data diets, ethical AI, fraud, compliance, and more. This was one of our most interactive livestreams to date.

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Whether you’re a marketer, technologist, or data leader, this episode is packed with straightforward advice, smart strategy, and a fresh perspective on what it means to work with data in 2025.

→ Ready to stop wasting time and start doing more with your data?

🎧 Listen now and catch the full episode on your favorite podcast app.
Find us at: https://www.bdex.com/deconstructing-data-podcast/

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Hosted by BDEX’s David Wellborn and Adam Fitzgerald
Produced by Jessie Lizak, Fractional CMO at BDEX

New episodes of Deconstructing Data air live every Thursday at 4:15 PM EST on LinkedIn and YouTube.

AI. Data. Identity. The future of marketing is all about connecting the dots—but too many companies are still stuck in fragmented systems, struggling to unify customer insights.

On this episode of Deconstructing Data, Matt Spiegel, EVP of TruAudience Growth Strategy at TransUnion, breaks down the real barriers to personalization at scale and why data silos are holding businesses back.

→ Why identity resolution is the missing link in Martech
→ How leading brands are solving the data fragmentation problem
→ The must-have mindset shift for marketers in 2024

Join Jessie Lizak (BDEX Fractional CMO) and Adam Fitzgerald (BDEX Enterprise Sales Director) for an in-depth conversation with one of the top voices in digital marketing, media, and AI-driven strategy.

Listen now → https://www.bdex.com/deconstructing-data-podcast/

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AI-driven networking is no longer a concept, it’s here.

Boardy.ai has already facilitated over 9,000 calls and helped startups land funding and partnerships, all through the power of AI-driven introductions.

For the first time, an AI will be an active guest on Deconstructing Data, engaging in real-time conversation, not just answering pre-programmed questions.In this episode, we’ll explore:

1. How Boardy Got Started and What Is It

2. Can AI Replace Human Connectors?

3. How Boardy Determines Who You Need to Know

3. Tech Stack

AI is revolutionizing how businesses operate, but are companies truly prepared to harness its power?

The biggest roadblock to AI adoption isn’t the technology itself, it’s people, processes, and mindset.

In this episode of Deconstructing Data, we sit down with Sav Khetan, VP of Product Marketing at Tealium, to explore:

→ The State of AI → What’s hype vs. reality? What’s working today?
→ Data for AI → How collection, management, and activation impact success
→ Breaking Data Silos → Why unifying your organization is the key to leveraging AI effectively
→ Tech Stack → Sav’s go-to tools for optimizing AI-driven data strategies

We cover why AI experimentation is critical, the biggest misconceptions about AI’s role in business, and why data sharing, not hoarding, leads to real revenue opportunities.

→This is a must-listen for data-driven marketers, AI enthusiasts, and enterprise leaders looking to maximize their AI investments.

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Hyper-personalization is the standard. AI curates your content, ads follow you across platforms, and brands strive to predict your every move.

But according to Jess Lewis, CTO at CROSSMEDIA, too much personalization is actually hurting marketing.

In this episode of Deconstructing Data, Jess explains how cyberpsychology, the study of human behavior in digital spaces, is reshaping audience targeting, media planning, and data-driven marketing strategies.

→ The problem with hyper-personalization and why consumers fight against recommendation algorithms
→ The role of ethical AI in audience segmentation and identity resolution
→ How marketing attribution is evolving in a privacy-first world
→ Why the future of martech is not about more data, but smarter data

We get into the psychological patterns behind digital behavior and why understanding people matters more than data alone.

Watch the full episode now and join us LIVE every Thursday at 4:15 PM EST on LinkedIn and YouTube.

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