Therapists, helpers, and creatives — you weren’t made to burn out.You were made to create from your Zone of Genius. Grab the free guide and start crafting work that energizes (not drains) you.



Episode 152: Therapists & Creatives: Why Creativity Is a Burnout Antidote (+ Life Updates)



If you’ve felt the tug between meaningful work and your own wellbeing, you’re not alone. After a slow summer and a lot of reflection, I’m more grounded and aligned than I’ve ever been—and I want that for you, too. This post shares what shifted: embracing seasons, following creative breadcrumbs, rethinking the limits of 1:1 therapy, and intentionally building community that restores rather than depletes.



Seasons matter (a.k.a. the “goo stage”)



I talk often about the butterfly life cycle: we all move through catalyst → cocoon (a.k.a. the goo stage) → emergence. This summer was goo season for me. I pared back, tended to what needed tending, and trusted that momentum would return—and it did. If you’re in a cocoon right now, you’re not broken. You’re becoming.



What’s lighting me up this fall




* Speaking at the Next Level Summit on building income streams that energize, not drain.



* Developing a talk on Creativity as a Burnout Antidote—how play, humor, and creative practice restore energy and spark innovation.



* Dancing and choreographing (including my first solo!) and letting that embodied confidence spill into my work and leadership.




Following the breadcrumbs (the dance story)



I didn’t plan a solo. Life nudged me, I asked a musician friend for a track, and everything clicked. That “yes” led to one of the most healing experiences of my year and reminded me: creativity isn’t extra—it’s a way back to aliveness and clarity in every other part of life.



Rethinking therapy’s limits (and why community matters)



I’m grateful for therapy—and I’m also honest about its limits inside traditional containers. Some of my deepest healing has come outside the therapy room: through movement, story, laughter, friendship, and small groups that hold me while I build a life that fits. That’s part of why I’m building spaces for therapists and creatives to do this work together.



A frame I love: Daniel Pink’s A Whole New Mind



Pink argues we’re moving from the Information Age into the Conceptual Age—where six “senses” become indispensable:




* Design – make things useful and beautiful.



* Story – weave meaning; don’t just stack facts.



* Symphony – see patterns and connect the dots.



* Empathy – understand and be with human experience.



* Play – use humor and joy to fuel creativity and resilience.



* Meaning – pursue purpose and connection, not just performance.




If you’re a therapist or helper, you’re already fluent in many of these. The invitation is to bring them to the center of your work—not just the edges.



Contribution + Fulfillment = An Aligned Life



We crave contribution—to help, teach, build, and heal. But contribution alone leads to self-sacrifice and burnout. We also need fulfillment—creative passion, joy, and work that feels like us. Fulfillment alone can veer into emptiness. The sweet spot? Both.







Introducing: the Inspired Innovators Mastermind



I’ve launched a small, co-creative,

Episode 151: Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore for Therapists and Helpers (Season 5 Finale)



What if your burnout is actually a signal that it’s time to shift?What if the path back to fulfillment isn't more certifications or better time management—but more creativity, play, and aligned living?



If you’re a therapist, helping professional, or creative entrepreneur feeling burned out, stuck, or unsure how to keep showing up in this field you used to love… this episode is for you.



In this solo season finale of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I share what I’ve learned in Season 5—and in my own life—about why creativity isn’t optional anymore. Not just as a bonus. But as a necessary part of sustainable, meaningful work.







A Season of Alignment, Creativity, and Courage



This season has been the most “me” the podcast has ever felt. We talked about creative living, storytelling, nervous system regulation, entrepreneurship, embodiment, and how to do more of the work that lights us up.



And behind the scenes? I turned 40.I danced in a contemporary show.I choreographed a duet with my friend Allie about perfectionism and authenticity.I celebrated, rested, cried, and reimagined what I want to build.



And most importantly—I listened.To my body. To my joy. And to the parts of me that still get scared when I try something new.







If You're Asking “What Else Can I Do With My Therapy Skills?”… You're Not Alone.



Many of us became therapists or helpers because we’re deeply empathetic and want to create change. But somewhere along the way, you might find yourself asking:




* How do I keep going when I’m burned out?



* What other career paths exist for therapists like me?



* How can I use my gifts without sacrificing my well-being?



* Is it okay to want something different—even if I’ve invested so much into this path?




I hear these questions all the time from folks in my community. And I’ve asked them myself.



Which is why this episode is about offering both reflection and direction. Because creativity, when we make space for it, helps us unlock new answers to these questions.







Why Creativity Matters—Especially Now



Here’s what I believe:Creativity and joy aren’t frivolous. They’re essential.



They help us connect with our own aliveness. They open up possibilities. They offer healing not only for ourselves, but for our clients and communities.



And they are especially important for therapists and helping professionals navigating:




* Burnout and compassion fatigue



* A changing mental health landscape



* Systems that reward overworking and self-sacrifice



* The desire for more flexibility, freedom, and fulfillment




In short? Creativity is your asset.Not a distraction. Not a hobby. But a path to deeper alignment and more sustainable impact.







Tools + Resources for Burned Out Therapists & Creative Helpers



If you’re feeling stuck, uninspired, or unsure how to move forward, here are two simple ways to begin reconnecting with your Zone of Genius:



Free Resource: Uncover Your Zone of Genius GuideA short, powerful reflection tool to help you identify the work that brings you joy and flow.

Episode 150: Finding Community, Healing Together, and Living in Alignment with Randi Rubenstein



What does it mean to find real community in a world that often feels disconnected?



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I sat down with Randi Rubenstein for the final conversation in our three-part series on Creativity, Entrepreneurship, and Living an Aligned Life. This time, we explored the transformative role of community in healing, leadership, and building a more connected and joyful life.



From the mastermind group Randi accidentally created years ago to the healing communities I’ve found through dance, parenting circles, and entrepreneur spaces, we both reflect on the power of being seen, held, and co-creating with others. But we also don’t shy away from the complexity—how community can also bring up fear, past wounding, and the need for strong Pack Leadership (Randi’s term for grounded, non-reactive leadership rooted in care).



Here’s what we explore in this deep and energizing conversation:



What makes a community feel safe, healing, and energizing (vs. performative or depleting) How strong Pack Leadership creates safety and builds trust Why we often carry wounds from early communities and how to find spaces that help us heal The connection between novelty, leadership style, and nervous system regulation Why co-creating (vs. top-down leading) is the secret to sustainable group work How our own zones of genius show up in leadership roles Navigating sensitivity and overwhelm when leading or participating in group spaces



The Truth About Healing in Community



One of the biggest takeaways? While we are wounded in community, we are also healed in community. The difference lies in the presence of safe, emotionally regulated leadership. Randi shares how the community she built within Mastermind Parenting grew out of a simple parenting course—and how the women in that group didn’t want to leave because they finally felt held. That accidental community is now a co-created space that has helped women start businesses, change their lives, and feel a sense of deep belonging.



Pack Leadership and Co-Creation: The Container Matters



We unpack how Pack Leadership (a grounded, non-reactive presence that models calm confidence and sets clear boundaries) is essential for a safe group space. But not the "dominate or control" kind of leadership—this is about responding from our Self energy and encouraging everyone to bring their voice and genius to the table.



Co-creation is the heart of it all. Whether it’s a mastermind group, a dance retreat, or a kitchen-table podcast, there is power in shared ownership. That’s what turns a program or group into a community.



Feeling Too Much? You’re Not Alone.



As two sensitive leaders, Randi and I also talk about how it can be hard to feel the pain of others so deeply—and how to stay grounded and effective as a community builder. Whether you’re leading a large group or building small, intentional spaces, trusting your energy, pace, and personal capacity is vital.



Aligned Leadership Means Trusting Yourself



We also explore how our nervous systems guide us toward the right communities. Randi shares her "straightjacket or skinny dipping" metaphor for gauging how a space feels in your body. Does it feel constrictive or expansive? Energizing or draining? That intuitive guidance is part of aligned leadership.



Where Community Shows Up



From mastermind groups to dance studios, local creative meetups, and therapist circles, we reflect on where we’ve found aligned,

Episode 150: Writing, Play, and the Power of Creative Connection with Michelle Ringle & Alyssa Jewell



Have you ever felt the quiet nudge to write something down, even if just for yourself?



In this heartwarming and deeply thoughtful episode, I sit down with two gifted educators and writers, Michelle Ringle and Alyssa Jewell, to explore the transformative power of creative writing. This conversation was one I truly looked forward to—and it didn’t disappoint. Michelle and Alyssa bring so much depth, honesty, and encouragement to the question so many of us carry: What might open up if we let ourselves write?



We cover so much ground: how writing can be a form of self-connection and healing, how creative practice doesn’t have to look like rigid daily routines, and how society’s productivity obsession often blocks our creative energy before we even begin. Whether you’ve been writing for years or feel creatively stuck, this one’s for you.



In this episode, we explore:



Why writing is for everyone—not just “writers” How creative writing can help us heal grief, rage, and burnout What happens when we write with no agenda (and why that’s powerful) Why play is essential for adult women—and how Michelle created a whole Secret Society around it Bridging the gap between language learning and creative expression The real reasons many of us feel creatively blocked—and how to unblock The power of story to reconnect us with ourselves and others



Meet the Guests: Writers, Educators, & Creative Facilitators



Michelle Ringle is a mother, educator, adventure facilitator, and poet currently pursuing her MFA in Poetry at Western Michigan University. With over two decades of teaching experience, Michelle brings her trauma-informed, feminist lens to creative and educational spaces. She’s also the founder of the Secret Society of Ladies Uniquely Trying Stuff—a playful initiative encouraging women, especially mothers, to re-engage with physical play and joy.



Alyssa Jewell holds a Ph.D. in Creative Writing and Poetry, and her work explores the connection between creative writing and English as a Second Language (ESL) education. She teaches college-level ESL, English composition, and creative writing in Grand Rapids, MI. Alyssa’s poetry has appeared in Cherry Tree, Poetry Daily, Virginia Quarterly Review, and more, and she’s passionate about using writing to heal and connect across differences.



Writing as a Life-Giving Practice



For both Michelle and Alyssa, writing is less about producing something for others—and more about tuning into their own inner worlds. Michelle shares how morning pages and nature walks help her process emotions and stay grounded, while Alyssa opens up about writing her grandfather’s eulogy and the healing power of naming truth through story.



Writing doesn’t need to look like publishing a novel. It can be 10 minutes in the morning. It can be one sentence you write down while walking in the woods. It can be a eulogy, a journal entry, or a line of poetry that cracks you open.



“Our bodies often know before we do,” Michelle reflects. “Writing gives those feelings space to live.”



From Burnout to Creativity: Permission to Choose What’s Life-Giving



Michelle shared how pursuing an MFA while raising three children was a radical act of reclaiming joy. After years of teaching others how to write, she realized she wasn’t making space for her own creative voice—and that needed to change.



Alyssa describes the journey of bridging her two worlds—ESL education and poetry—and why giving ESL students space to tell their stories is not just po...

Episode 148: Recipes That Heal—Creativity, Courage, & Community Care with Elisa Pérez-Arellano, LMSW



What does it take to turn pain into purpose—and how can creativity, food, and cultural traditions transform how we approach mental health?



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of talking with Elisa Pérez-Arellano, LMSW—founder of Inclusive Empowerment Services and the visionary behind Recetas que Sanan (Recipes That Heal), a wellness initiative that reduces stigma and improves access to healing resources.



Elisa’s story is one of incredible resilience, innovation, and heart. From her lived experiences as an immigrant and survivor of teen dating violence to creating a therapeutic cooking show with her husband, she’s inspiring new ways to connect, heal, and build community through authenticity and cultural wisdom.



Here’s what we cover in this deep, powerful, and inspiring conversation:



Elisa’s journey immigrating from Mexico to the U.S. at age 16 The trauma and resilience that shaped her as a therapist Why she left traditional systems to build her own bilingual practice The creation of Recetas que Sanan—a cooking show that opens mental health conversations through food How creative expression, storytelling, and joy support healing Why therapists need their own therapy (and how healing enables deeper impact) The importance of speaking out about collective pain and the current political climate



A Therapist, Creator, & Courageous Leader



After years of working in traditional clinical settings and feeling deeply unfulfilled, Elisa decided to start her own private practice in 2020—right as the pandemic hit. With clarity about her gifts and a drive to create meaningful, culturally responsive care, she launched Inclusive Empowerment Services, LLC.



But Elisa’s work goes far beyond therapy sessions. As a bilingual public speaker, trainer, and educator, she’s passionate about bringing stories, lived experience, and emotional wisdom into schools, businesses, and community organizations.




“I knew I had gifts I wasn’t using—and I had to do something about it.”




Recetas Que Sanan: Recipes That Heal



What happens when you combine traditional cooking, storytelling, and emotional education? You get something completely magical—and that’s exactly what Elisa created with Recetas que Sanan.



This bilingual wellness initiative uses food as a gateway into deeper conversations about mental health and emotional well-being—particularly in Latinx and Spanish-speaking communities where stigma remains high.



Cooking intuitively and sharing her personal stories while preparing traditional meals, Elisa helps viewers feel seen, nourished, and safe to explore emotions in a way that feels natural and culturally resonant.




“Cooking is my magic. It’s where my feelings live—and where connection begins.”




From Surviving to Leading with Love



Elisa generously shares about her early years in the U.S.—navigating family reunification, language barriers, and role reversal as a teen helping her parents navigate systems. She also opens up about surviving teen dating violence, and how that lived experience fuels her trainings and outreach today.



Her commitment to authenticity is woven throughout her work. Whether she’s leading a community workshop or filming an episode of Recetas que Sanan, she brings her full, human self—breaking the mold of what a therapist “should” be.




“I’m cool. I’m human.

Episode 147: Redefining Success, Healing Through Business, and Sustainable Online Growth with Melvin Varghese, PhD



What if your business could be a source of healing—not just hustle?



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the joy of talking with Dr. Melvin Varghese—licensed psychologist, host of the Selling the Couch podcast, and founder of one of the most thoughtful, heart-centered online business communities for therapists.



Melvin is someone I deeply admire—not only because he’s built a wildly successful podcast and sustainable business—but because he’s done it with integrity, intention, and a whole lot of wisdom. We went deep in this honest, funny, and eye-opening conversation about what it really takes to build a business that supports your life (and doesn’t deplete it).



We talked about so much, including:




* Melvin’s journey from group practice to online entrepreneur



* The 4:30 AM recordings that started his podcasting journey



* Burnout, hair loss (!), and what it taught him about sustainability



* The internal work required to charge what you’re worth



* How podcasting helped him reconnect with younger parts of himself



* How he built a business that fits around family, health, and deep work



* AI, creativity, and the future of online business for therapists



* The courage it takes to slow down and trust your own pace




From Private Practice to Podcasting Pioneer



Melvin didn’t jump into online business overnight. After years of juggling group practice, community mental health, and part-time clinical work, a snowstorm in Philly changed everything—he lost 21 client hours in one week and began wondering: Is there another way?



Inspired by mentors like Pat Flynn and driven by a desire for more time freedom, Melvin launched Selling the Couch in 2015 - using an ironing board in his home for some of the early interview episodes. His early episodes were recorded before sunrise and edited by hand between client sessions. Slowly and strategically, he built a podcast that now reaches listeners in over 120 countries and has surpassed 1.8 million downloads.




“I wanted to design a career around my family and health instead of fitting my family and health around a career.”




What Made His Business Work



Unlike many therapists who try to leap into online business and end up burned out (), Melvin took a long-game approach.



He shares how:




* He gradually reduced clinical hours over 5+ years



* He built trust through consistent content before ever selling



* He picked a course topic that had real demand



* He iterated slowly, letting his offers evolve



* He prioritized heart and community over flashy marketing




Healing Old Messages About Worth



We also explored the deeper internal work of entrepreneurship—especially for those of us raised in systems or cultures where “working harder” was equated with worth. As the child of Indian immigrants, Melvin shares how he had to unlearn deeply held messages about laziness, productivity, and success.




“If I wasn’t grinding myself to the bone, I felt like I was dishonoring my parents’ sacrifices.”




Through years of personal therapy, brainspotting, and reflection,

Episode 146: From Actor to Therapist—Reclaiming Identity & Embracing Self-Energy with Adeshola Nnamdi, LMFT



What does it look like to live with deep intention—and how can our past lives, creativity, and cultural roots shape the therapists we become?



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I had the absolute pleasure of talking with Adeshola Nnamdi, MA, LMFT—an actor who made a pivot into clinical psychology and psychotherapy, is IFS-trained, and deeply passionate about storytelling, healing, and identity. Shola is the first male guest on the podcast—and the first to serenade us too!



We covered so much in this heartfelt, funny, and powerful conversation:




* Shola’s journey from acting to therapy



* Why he changed his name to honor his Nigerian roots



* What creativity and presence really look like in therapy



* His experience with Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Emotion Focused Therapy (EFT)



* How therapists can reclaim joy, connection, and authenticity in their work




From the Stage to the Therapy Room



Before becoming a therapist, Shola had a rich acting career—appearing in many films and on television, including on a hit NBC sitcom called The Single Guy that aired between Seinfeld and Friends, working with Spike Lee (check out the video just below this paragraph!), and even hanging out at Saturday Night Live. But despite his outward success, he found himself burnt out, disconnected, and chasing applause rather than purpose.







Eventually, through sobriety and soul-searching, he found a new path: one rooted in service, meaning, and connection.




“What would my life look like if I stopped seeking validation and just trusted?”




Therapy as Art: The Performance of Presence



Shola’s artistic background deeply informs his work as a therapist. He describes therapy as a kind of performance art—not because we’re faking it, but because we’re bringing our full selves into the room and responding in real time.




“Bad acting is pushing… having an agenda. That can happen in therapy too.”




IFS, in particular, allowed him to slow down, be present, and trust in both his clients and himself. Instead of working from parts that strive or fix, he now leans into the power of Self-energy—and it’s transformed his clinical work.



Why He Changed His Name—and What It Means



Shola also shares the powerful story of changing his name from Shawn Michael Howard to Adeshola Nnamdi, a decision rooted in personal healing and cultural reclamation. After George Floyd’s murder and years of reflection, he realized he no longer wanted to carry a name passed down from a history of enslavement.




“I didn’t want to die with a slaveholder’s name on my tombstone.”




The name Adeshola means “he brings prosperity” and Nnamdi means “my father lives.” It’s a name he carries with honor, intention, and power.



Creativity, Joy, & the Therapist’s Zone of Genius



We also explored how creativity plays a crucial role in the therapist’s life—not just through hobbies, but through presence, flexibility, and flow.




“We’re creating in there. It’s art.”




Shola’s Zone of Genius is connection. Whether on stage or in the therapy room, he brings joy, attunement, and aliveness to the people around him. He’s passionate about helping others do the same—bot...

Episode 145: Why Creativity Isn’t Optional Anymore—for Therapists, Helpers, and Healers



Have you ever felt stuck in your work?



Like you’re helping others but losing connection with yourself?



You’re not alone.



Many therapists, psychologists, and helpers reach a point where something feels off. You love helping people. But deep down, you want something more. You know you're wired to help in ways you can't within the current models of what a therapist does. You want to write. Build something. Start a podcast. Host a retreat. Lead in a new way.



But the voice in your head says:




“You don’t have time for that.”“You’re not creative enough.”“What do you really have to contribute?”




Here’s the truth: Creativity isn’t a luxury. It’s not a bonus.



It’s essential.



And science backs this up.







The Nobel Prize Study: Why Creativity Makes You Better at Your Job



Researchers (Root-Bernstein & Root-Bernstein, 2019) studied Nobel Prize-winning scientists from 1901 to 2005. What made them different from their peers?



It wasn’t intelligence.It wasn’t work ethic.It was creativity.



These world-changers were way more likely to play music, dance, write poetry, paint, or build things with their hands.



Here’s what the study found:



Artistic HobbyHow Much More Likely Nobel Prize Winners Did ThisPlaying music (instrument, composing, conducting)2x more likelyVisual arts (drawing, painting, sculpting)7x more likelyCrafts (woodworking, electronics, glassblowing)7.5x more likelyWriting (poetry, plays, novels, essays)12x more likelyPerforming arts (acting, dance, magic)22x more likely



Another study showed that entrepreneurs and inventors were more likely to have arts-based hobbies too (Woronkowicz & Noonan, 2019).



That means the most innovative people aren’t just working harder.They’re making space for creativity.







Why This Matters for You



As a therapist or helper, you’re already doing deep work.But if you’re feeling disconnected or stuck—it might be time to reconnect with your spark.



Creativity fuels new ideas. Creativity builds resilience. Creativity helps you process emotion, grief, and burnout.



For me, dance became a lifeline. After nearly 20 years away, I stepped into a beginner tap class. I was a true beginner at tap—but also quickly noticed I felt more alive. That class led to more dance, deeper healing, and a business that now feels deeply aligned.



And guess what hobby had the strongest connection to creative breakthroughs in the Nobel study?



Performing arts—dance, acting, and even magic.22 times more likely.



Just sayin'. ;)







What Keeps Us Stuck?



We wait until we’re “good” at something.We worry what others will think.We think creativity is selfish or unproductive.



But here’s the truth:



You don’t need permission. You don’t need to be the best. You just need to begin.







How to Start Unlocking Creativity (Without Overwhelm)



Reframe it — Creativity is professional development. Start small — Write a haiku. Join a beginner dance class. Join others — Try a body doubling or creative co-working session.

Episode 144: Finding Your Zone of Genius Through Culturally Immersive Travel with Kelsey Wilson & Amanda Cisneros



Have you ever dreamed of experiencing travel in a way that fully immerses you in another culture—where you’re not just a visitor, but an active participant in the local community? That’s exactly what Kelsey Wilson and Amanda Cisneros have built with Travec Travel, a company specializing in culturally immersive travel for families and individuals. But beyond that, their journey is an inspiring look at how leaning into your Zone of Genius can create a career and life that feel deeply fulfilling.



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, we explore how Kelsey and Amanda discovered their unique strengths and built a business that aligns with their passions. We’ll also discuss how immersive travel experiences can be life-changing—not just for their clients, but for them as entrepreneurs.



How Travec Travel Began: A Business Built on Zone of Genius



Kelsey and Amanda’s partnership was almost serendipitous—what they call an “arranged marriage” of entrepreneurship. Though they didn’t know each other long before starting the company, their shared passion for travel, language, and culture quickly solidified their vision.



Amanda, a seasoned Spanish teacher, had extensive experience leading student trips abroad, but she always dreamed of expanding that model to families. Her Zone of Genius is in crafting detailed itineraries, logistics, and building deep connections between travelers and local cultures. Meanwhile, Kelsey had worked in global travel sales and had the entrepreneurial spirit to bring that vision to life. Her Zone of Genius lies in helping potential clients find the right travel experience for them, empowering them to believe in themselves and take the leap.



Together, they launched Travec Travel just two and a half years ago, and since then, they’ve built a company that fosters meaningful, intentional travel experiences.



What Makes Travec Travel Unique?



Unlike traditional travel companies that often cater to tourists without deep cultural immersion, Travec Travel offers:




* Culturally immersive experiences where travelers live like locals, stay in apartments rather than hotels, and engage in daily life activities like grocery shopping and cooking.



* City Friends & Hosts, ensuring travelers are connected with local families who introduce them to the authentic culture.



* Opportunities for language immersion, including Spanish classes and homestays where kids and adults alike can practice their skills in real-world settings.



* Family-friendly itineraries, designed for parents traveling with children, making cultural immersion accessible without the stress of planning every detail.




The Evolution of Their Business



Travec Travel has evolved significantly since its launch. Initially, the founders thought they would primarily work with families looking to live abroad long-term. However, they found that their real niche was in planning short-term, intentional family travel.



Through collaboration with schools, Travec Travel now organizes capstone trips for students in Spanish immersion programs, as well as customized experiences for individuals and families looking for meaningful, connected travel. Their signature destinations include:




* Merida, Mexico



* Quepos, Costa Rica



* Trujillo, Peru



* Medellin, Colombia



* Madrid, Spain

Episode 143: Embodiment, Healing, and Community with Jen Bullen



IntroductionWelcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! In this episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Jen Bullen, an embodiment and somatic healing coach, body image whisperer, and diet culture rebel. Jen and I met in a truly serendipitous way—at my first retreat in October, when I needed a last-minute yoga instructor. The class she led was one of the most moving experiences of my life, and I knew then that I had to have her on the podcast to share her wisdom.



Jen’s journey into this work is deeply personal and filled with moments of transformation. From her background in healthcare to her pivot into embodiment coaching, she brings a unique perspective on healing, presence, and the importance of community support. In our conversation, we explore her path, the role of creativity in healing, and the profound impact of nurturing relationships.







From Healthcare to Embodiment Coaching



Like many healers, Jen’s journey into her current work wasn’t linear. She spent 18 years in healthcare as a first responder and nurse before realizing the toll it was taking on her mental and emotional well-being. Seeking relief, she turned to yoga—not initially as a formal practice, but simply as a space where she could breathe and exist. Over time, yoga became a bridge to deeper embodiment and self-understanding.



Jen shares how she first approached yoga as something to “do” rather than to be with, but as she continued her practice, she began to understand its power. Her curiosity led her to study trauma, movement, and somatic healing, eventually integrating these into her work.



Embodying Presence: The Path to Authentic Connection



One of the most striking things about Jen is the grounded presence she brings into a room. But as she shares, this wasn’t always the case. Ten years ago, her energy was scattered, pulled in different directions. Through deep self-work, understanding her own nervous system, and aligning her life with natural cycles, she found her way to greater embodiment.



Jen talks about the Ayurvedic principles that guide her work and how she helps clients reconnect with their bodies in personalized ways—whether through movement, breathwork, creative practices, or even gardening. The key, she emphasizes, is allowing space for clients to step into what feels right for them, rather than prescribing a rigid method.



Creativity as a Gateway to Healing



In our conversation, we explore the idea that creativity is an essential part of healing. Jen reflects on how creativity shows up in her life—not just in art or movement, but in the way she holds space for people.



She also shares an insight from a friend who is a professional artist—how scheduling dedicated creative time was a game-changer for her. Instead of waiting for inspiration to strike, she made space for it. Jen applies this concept to her own life, recognizing that creativity isn’t a luxury; it’s a necessity for staying connected to herself and her work.



Reclaiming Community: A New Approach to Motherhood Support



One of the most powerful stories Jen shares is about how she and her extended family came together to support her stepson’s wife after childbirth. In a culture that often leaves new mothers isolated, they created a circle of care—cooking, holding the baby, and offering emotional support.



Jen describes the moment when her husband’s ex-wife handed him their grandchild—a silent, yet deeply healing exchange that spoke to the power of community and shared history. This experience reinforced for me something that my...

Episode 142. Empowering Your Financial Future: A Conversation with Laura Corbiani



Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! Today, we're diving into part two of my conversation with financial expert Laura Corbiani. If you missed part one, be sure to check it out, as we covered essential topics like money, power, and common mindset blocks around finances. This episode is all about tangible actions to become more financially empowered—because who doesn’t need that?



We’ll discuss key topics like:




* Why and when you might want to hire a financial advisor



* Financial wellness basics



* How to build an emergency fund



* How to optimize your money to create more financial freedom




Let’s dive in!



Overcoming Financial Anxiety



Talking about money can be overwhelming. Many people feel like they need to know everything before they even start, leading to avoidance and anxiety. If you’ve ever felt this way, you’re not alone. Financial concerns can exist even when someone is in a good financial position. The key is shifting from judgment to curiosity about your financial health.



The Importance of an Emergency Fund



One of the most crucial building blocks of financial wellness is an emergency fund. This is a cash cushion set aside in a savings account, separate from investments, to cover unexpected expenses. Here’s a general guideline:




* Single-income households: Aim for six months of living expenses.



* Dual-income households: Aim for three months of living expenses.




Keeping this money in a separate savings account (instead of a checking account) can help prevent accidental spending. Automating a small amount to transfer weekly or monthly can make building this fund easier.



Maximizing Employer Benefits



If you have access to employer benefits, it’s important to take full advantage of them. Some key areas to explore include:




* Retirement Plans: Many employers offer 401(k) matching—be sure to contribute enough to get the full match!



* Disability and Life Insurance: These benefits are often overlooked but can provide essential financial security.



* Health Savings Accounts (HSA): If you’re on a high-deductible health plan, contributing to an HSA is a great way to save for medical expenses tax-free. Unlike Flexible Spending Accounts (FSA), HSAs don’t have a “use it or lose it” policy, allowing you to save for future healthcare costs—even in retirement.




The Power of Investing



Investing can feel intimidating, but it doesn’t have to be complicated. Target-date funds are a great place to start—they adjust risk levels based on your projected retirement year. Investing consistently, even in small amounts, can lead to long-term financial security.



The Gender Pay Gap & Negotiation



One of the biggest financial challenges women face is negotiating for higher pay. Research shows that women tend to apply for jobs only when they meet 100% of the qualifications, whereas men apply when they meet about 60%. Additionally, women negotiate their salaries less frequently, which can lead to earning significantly less over their careers.



A few key takeaways:




* Ask for what you’re worth: Negotiating your salary can add up to over $1 million in additional lifetime earnings.

Episode 141: Money, Power & The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Laura Corbiani



Money. Power. Self-worth.



For so many of us—especially women—these words feel loaded. We’ve absorbed messages about money from a young age, often without realizing it. Some of us were taught that talking about money is rude or greedy. Others internalized the belief that wanting more meant taking from someone else.



But what if talking about money openly could actually be empowering?



In this week’s episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, I sat down with Certified Financial Planner Laura Corbiani to dive deep into the mindset blocks, money scripts, and hidden narratives that keep so many of us stuck.



Money, Power, and the Stories We Carry



Laura and I have been talking for a while about having this conversation because, let’s be real—money stress feels higher than ever.



This episode is the first in a two-part series where we focus on: Why talking about money is so hard (especially for women) The connection between money mindset and self-worth How childhood messages about money shape our adult behaviors Why money is power—and why that’s not a bad thing



One of the most fascinating parts of our conversation was Laura’s unexpected journey into financial planning. Believe it or not, her background is in ceramic art and engineering. And yet, that artistic training helped her become an incredible listener—someone who understands that when people talk about money, they’re actually talking about fear, safety, identity, and what they value most.



Why We Need to Talk About Money



Laura shared that many women, in particular, have an instinct to "put their heads in the sand" when it comes to money. We tell ourselves things like:



“I’m just not good at this.” “It’s too complicated.” “I should be grateful for what I have—I shouldn’t ask for more.”



Sound familiar?



These beliefs don’t just affect our bank accounts—they shape our entire lives. They impact how we negotiate salaries, whether we invest, and whether we allow ourselves to build the life we truly want.



We also talked about: The wage gap and why women statistically wait until they’re overqualified to ask for a promotion Loss aversion and why women tend to be more financially conservative (and how that might be holding us back) How the “money mindset” work overlaps with therapy, creativity, and stepping into our power



Let’s Start Having These Conversations



Laura and I both believe that de-stigmatizing money talk is a game-changer. We need spaces where we can have real, open conversations about finances—without shame, guilt, or judgment.



That’s why Laura has created Finances & Feelings groups, both online and in person, where people can discuss money in a supportive, pressure-free environment. If you’ve ever wanted to get more comfortable talking about money—or just feel less alone in your financial journey—these groups are a great place to start.



Listen to Episode 141



This is a conversation about power, permission, and possibility.



If you’ve ever felt conflicted about money—whether it’s earning it, saving it, spending it, or talking about it—this episode is for you.



And be sure to tune in next time for Part Two, where we’ll dive into tangible strategies to start building financial confidence today.



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Episode 140: Leadership, Self Energy, & the Internal Family Systems Model with Rachel Bentley



As therapists, business owners, and leaders, we often feel pressure to have all the answers. But what if the most impactful leadership doesn’t come from perfection—but from embracing our humanity and ongoing growth?



That’s exactly what I explored in my conversation with Rachel Bentley on The Innovative Therapist Podcast (Episode 140). Rachel is an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Level 2 trained therapist, group practice owner, and business consultant. She leads a 40-clinician practice with locations in Michigan and helps therapists navigate leadership, self-energy, and sustainable business growth.



In this episode, we dive into:




* How Internal Family Systems (IFS) can transform therapist leadership



* The role of self-energy in decision-making and leadership



* Overcoming imposter syndrome & self-doubt



* Why creativity and the Zone of Genius matter for therapists



* How to build a leadership team without burning out




The Power of IFS in Therapist Leadership



Rachel shared how IFS has revolutionized her leadership as a group practice owner. Instead of leading from a place of control or fear, she now understands how her internal parts—the ones managing decision-making, leadership stress, and self-doubt—can work together.



Why Self-Energy is the Key to Effective Leadership



IFS isn’t just a clinical tool—it’s a leadership framework. Rachel discussed how recognizing and working with her own parts has helped her:



Lead with more confidence and clarity



Trust her intuition in making business decisions



Navigate the challenges of growing a large team



Avoid burnout by recognizing protective parts before they take over



Many therapists struggle with imposter syndrome, especially when running a business. Rachel’s insights show that leading with self-energy—rather than fear-based parts—creates a more sustainable and authentic business.



Creativity & the Zone of Genius for Therapists



One of the most exciting parts of our conversation was Rachel’s journey with creativity. Like many therapists, she didn’t initially consider herself creative. However, she’s discovered that creativity isn’t just about art or music—it’s about problem-solving, visioning, and innovation.



What is the Zone of Genius?



The Zone of Genius is the space where your natural talents and passions intersect. It’s where work feels energizing instead of draining. Rachel and I explored how therapists can identify their Zone of Genius and lean into work that truly excites them.




Ask Yourself: What part of your work lights you up the most? Where do you feel the most “flow” and self-energy?




Creating Spaces Where We Don’t Have to Prove Ourselves



Therapists often feel pressure to appear “perfect”—as if we should always have it all together. But true leadership comes from embracing vulnerability and authenticity.



Rachel and I discussed the importance of creating spaces where therapists can show up without unrealistic expectations. Whether it’s within group practices, consulting, or therapist communities, we need places where: We can ask questions without judgment We don’t have to prove our worth We can be real about struggles and challenges

Episode 139: Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You Want



In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, Randi Rubenstein returns to dive deeper into the concept of Pack Leadership while exploring how creativity and play can transform our lives. We discuss the importance of leaning into your Zone of Genius, fostering meaningful connections through creativity, and how play has reshaped my approach to parenting and work.



We’ll cover how humans are naturally wired to be generous, curious, and connected, and how we can cultivate environments that bring out these qualities in ourselves and those around us. Whether you’re a therapist, parent, or simply someone striving to align more deeply with your purpose, this episode offers practical strategies to help you thrive.







Why Creativity and Play Matter



For a long time, I struggled with bringing play into my parenting in a way that felt meaningful and connecting—not boring or forced. Then, I stumbled across a podcast episode that gave me hope I could shift this narrative. (Here’s the podcast episode that inspired me.) I realized that play isn’t about perfection; it’s about showing up with curiosity and an open heart.



Creativity and play have also deeply impacted my work. Leaning into my Zone of Genius has allowed me to focus on what I’m best at while creating space for joy and innovation. For more about the Zone of Genius concept, check out my earlier episode: Episode 129: Embracing Your Zone of Genius.







What You’ll Learn in This Episode



Stories of Transformation: Hear how embracing creativity and play has changed my approach to parenting, making it more enjoyable and meaningful for both me and my kids.



Practical Strategies: We’ll discuss actionable tips for incorporating creativity and play into your daily life, whether at home or work.



The Counter-Cultural Nature of Zone of Genius: Learn why focusing on what lights you up is not only generous to others but also incredibly challenging in a culture that often rewards overworking and self-sacrifice.







Highlights from the Episode




* Pack Leadership and Creativity: Building on Episode 138, we explore how Pack Leadership intersects with creativity and play to foster environments of trust and connection.



* Playful Parenting: Inspired by recent research and podcasts like 10% Happier and How I Built This, I’ve learned how to make play enjoyable and connecting—not a chore. These insights have transformed my relationship with my kids and made parenting feel more aligned.



* Intrinsic Motivation and Generosity: Humans love to learn and give back. We discuss how to create family and work environments that naturally bring out these qualities.



* Creativity at Work: Discover how focusing on your Zone of Genius can make your work feel more vibrant and aligned, leading to deeper connections and greater impact.








Episode 138: Pack Leadership Recap



If you missed our last episode, Randi Rubenstein introduced the life-changing concept of Pack Leadership. This approach prioritizes calm, confident leadership while rejecting shame and perfectionism. For a deeper dive, listen to Show more...