In this special two-for-one episode, Morag welcomes back Dr. Jeffrey Hull—Executive Director at the Institute of Coaching, Harvard Medical School Affiliate—and leadership scientist and coach Margaret Moore, co-founder of the Institute of Coaching and CEO of Wellcoaches Corporation. Together, they unpack their new book, The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact, a groundbreaking synthesis of 50 years of research distilled into nine evidence-based capacities every leader can grow.
Blending neuroscience, behavioral science, and coaching wisdom, Jeffrey and Margaret reveal how to lead consciously, connect deeply, and transform not only your team but yourself.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
05:30 — Why Nine? The Map of Modern Leadership
After analyzing over 15,000 research papers, Jeffrey and Margaret identified nine interconnected capacities—from consciousness and authenticity to compassion and transformation—that together form a holistic framework for lifelong leadership growth.
10:45 — The Roots of Leadership: Self Before System
Leadership starts within. The first three capacities—Conscious, Authentic, and Agile Leadership—build the foundation for everything else by developing awareness, aligning values, and cultivating flexibility in thought, emotion, and action.
14:30 — From Self to Others: Relational, Positive & Compassionate Leadership
Great leaders create connection and safety. Jeffrey and Margaret explore how empathy evolves into compassion—an active care for others and the systems they inhabit—and why true influence begins with resonance, not control.
18:40 — The Power of Shared, Servant, and Transformational Leadership
The final three capacities challenge hierarchy and ego. Sharing leadership, serving others, and pursuing transformation require humility, courage, and an ever-evolving mindset. As Margaret says, “Transformation isn’t finding yourself—it’s expanding yourself.”
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders at every level—from emerging managers to seasoned executives—who want to integrate science-backed practices with self-awareness, compassion, and purpose to elevate their leadership impact.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
This week, Morag sits down with Margaret Andrews—executive educator, Harvard instructor, founder of The MYLO Center, and author of Manage Yourself to Lead Others. Drawing from her years teaching leadership and working with organizations like Amazon, Wayfair, Walmart, and the United Nations, Margaret offers powerful lessons on self-awareness, trust, and emotional intelligence as the true cornerstones of effective leadership.
With personal candor, Margaret shares how one difficult piece of feedback became the catalyst for her research, her Harvard course, and ultimately her book—reminding us that the best leaders are always managing themselves first.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
03:00 — Trust Is Built in Nanoseconds
Trust isn’t earned in years—it’s built (and broken) in moments. Margaret explains why “do what you say, say what you do” remains the ultimate leadership rule.
07:00 — Self-Awareness Starts with Honesty
A painful but pivotal career moment taught Margaret that understanding herself was the first step to leading others. Awareness of how we impact people—and curiosity about how they experience us—is where leadership transformation begins.
13:00 — Aggressive Self-Rescue: Bouncing Back from Setbacks
Borrowing from white-water rafting safety lessons, Margaret shares her philosophy of “aggressive self-rescue” for career challenges: pause, process, then act intentionally.
16:00 — Emotions Aren’t Soft—They’re Strategic
Emotional intelligence, or “relationship skills,” isn’t optional. Margaret emphasizes that reading the room, owning your emotional state, and recognizing others’ cues are what distinguish leaders people actually want to follow.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Emerging and experienced leaders ready to deepen self-awareness, build trust faster, recover from career missteps, and lead with humanity in hybrid workplaces.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
We’re excited to welcome back David Cohen—globally recognized thought leader, executive coach, and author of Selecting the Best: Fostering a Workforce Driven by Values for Lasting Success. With over 30 years of experience advising leaders and organizations on five continents, David brings a clear message: skills may get you hired, but values determine whether you (and your organization) thrive.
From his early consulting days to his latest book, David explains why authentic values alignment—not just technical expertise—is the key to building resilient, high-performing teams.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
03:00 — Relationships Drive Everything
David shares how a single relationship—built over 30 years ago—opened doors, sustained his career, and underscores why lasting success is built on trust, respect, and connection.
08:00 — Hire for Values, Not Just Skills
Knowledge and skills are teachable, but values-driven behavior determines whether someone will fit, flourish, and stay. Hiring without considering values is one of the fastest paths to disengagement and turnover.
12:00 — The Integrity Trap
Why “integrity” isn’t really a value—it’s the sum total of living your values. When organizations plaster it on walls but don’t live it, cynicism and distrust follow.
17:00 — How to Ask Better Interview Questions
David explains why ambiguous, behavioral questions (“Tell me about a time…”) reveal far more than canned Q&A—and how silence can be a powerful tool in uncovering authentic stories.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, recruiters, HR professionals, and job seekers who want to understand how values shape hiring, retention, and long-term success.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
This week, Morag is joined by Dr. Rosie Ward—CEO of Salveo Partners, award-winning author and podcast host, and fierce advocate for rehumanizing workplaces. Rosie’s new book, Future Proofing Leadership: Navigating Change and Disruption to Thrive in an Uncertain World, explores how to upgrade our “faulty programs,” break free from self-protective patterns, and lead with courage and connection.
With humor, candor, and science-backed insights, Rosie reveals why embracing our messy humanity is the key to thriving in times of disruption.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
04:00 — We’re Wired for Connection, Yet More Disconnected Than Ever
Despite being biologically hardwired for relationships, technology, faulty programming, and disruption have left us lonelier than ever. Rosie explains why feeling seen and heard is as essential as food and water.
10:30 — Faulty Programs That Hold Us Back
From the Overachiever to the Martyr, Perfectionist, People Pleaser, and more—Rosie unpacks the seven faulty programs that sabotage us and how to start upgrading them.
18:00 — Inner Game vs. Outer Game
Why training alone doesn’t stick unless we first update our “inner operating system.” Self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and narrative rewiring are the foundations for lasting leadership change.
24:00 — The 3x3x3 Challenge to Build Connection
A simple daily practice: take three minutes to reach out to three people for three months. This small act of showing up for others strengthens relationships and boosts wellbeing.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, change agents, and anyone tired of hustling and “doing it all” who wants to show up authentically, break free of head trash, and rehumanize work and life.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
This week, Morag is joined by Jonathan Stutz—President of Global Diversity Partners, Inc., former leader at Amazon, Microsoft, and Zulily, and co-author (with Eddie Pate) of Daily Practices of Inclusive Leaders: A Guide to Building a Culture of Belonging.
With over 25 years of experience in leadership, Jonathan shares how inclusion is not a “program” but a daily practice—and why creating cultures of belonging is both a moral imperative and a business advantage.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
02:00 — Relationships Are the Legacy That Lasts
Jonathan reflects on how mentors, colleagues, and friendships are the true markers of success—long after projects and titles are forgotten.
06:00 — Inclusion Before Diversity
Using the “home” metaphor, Jonathan explains why focusing on inclusion first ensures that diverse hires don’t walk out the back door—and how belonging fuels retention and performance.
13:00 — Dropping Pebbles to Create Ripples
Inclusive leadership doesn’t require grand gestures. Jonathan shares how small, daily actions—like stopping interruptions in meetings or pressing “pause” on microaggressions—create ripples that shift culture over time.
20:00 — From Gap Analysis to Real Change
Why throwing programs at the wall isn’t enough. Jonathan outlines how assessing culture, listening to marginalized voices, and cutting data by intersectionality lead to meaningful strategies for equity and belonging.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, HR professionals, and changemakers who want to move beyond well-intentioned diversity statements and instead create tangible, lasting cultures of belonging.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
In this episode of People First, Morag is joined by Meredith Waters—high-performance coach, transformational strategist, and founder of Thriving at Water’s Edge. With over two decades in high-stakes global leadership, including post-conflict zones and climate-vulnerable regions, Meredith has developed the Resilient Ambition Framework to help individuals and mission-driven teams move through disruption with clarity, adaptability, and purpose.
From the concept of “ambition disruption” to embracing intentional “fallow periods,” Meredith shares practical tools for reframing setbacks as opportunities for growth.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
03:00 — The Power of Lifting Others Up
Meredith reflects on the military-inspired mindset of training others to do your job—and how removing competition builds stronger teams, deeper trust, and mutual success.
07:30 — What Is Ambition Disruption?
Learn how career ceilings, missed promotions, personal loss, or major industry changes can trigger “life quakes”—and why recognizing them is the first step toward intentional growth.
10:00 — Embracing the Fallow Period
Meredith explains how to use transitional periods to rest, reassess, and explore new goals. This pause isn’t inactivity—it’s purposeful cultivation of what comes next.
16:30 — Evolving Forward vs. Bouncing Back
Through her Resilient Ambition Framework, Meredith outlines how to gain clarity, build emotional resilience, and realign ambitions—so you don’t just return to “business as usual” but adapt for a more fulfilling path.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, changemakers, and high performers navigating disruption who want to turn uncertainty into a launchpad for intentional, sustainable growth.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
This week, we welcome award-winning global learning executive and author Jeanine Mathó to People First. Jeanine shares her deeply personal journey from the height of corporate success through burnout and loss — only to emerge with a powerful new vision for what lasting success can truly look and feel like.
In this conversation, Jeanine introduces her new book Live Your Opus: Reclaim Your Energy, Redefine Success, and Create a Life That Truly Matters, written for high-achieving professionals who may look successful on the outside, but feel misaligned or depleted within.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
03:45 — Burnout Is Not a Weakness
After hitting a personal wall following the sudden loss of her mother and relentless corporate demands, Jeanine reframes burnout as a moment of awakening—not failure—and explains how we can learn from it before hitting the edge.
08:40 — High Achievement ≠ High Performance
What separates Olympic athletes from overworked professionals? Energy management. Jeanine explains why working harder doesn’t always lead to better results—and how to build recovery, alignment, and endurance into your ambition.
13:00 — Your Energy Is Your Power
Jeanine introduces the Opus 8 Energy System and the three anchoring pillars: Stability, Alignment, and Endurance. These are not abstract ideas, but practical pathways to lead from a place of vitality and intention.
21:00 — You Are Your Greatest Work
Forget the titles and accolades. Jeanine urges us to reclaim authorship of our stories, own our voices, and treat our lives as the most meaningful masterpiece we’ll ever create—our opus.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, founders, executives, and ambitious professionals feeling the toll of success and wondering: “Is this it?” If you’re ready to shift from depletion to purpose, this conversation is your call to action.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
We’re thrilled to welcome Dr. Bobbi Wegner—psychologist, Harvard lecturer, and founder of GROOPS—to People First!. With her unique blend of clinical and organizational psychology, Bobbi shares how leaders can evolve from taskmasters to team coaches by leveraging simple psychological tools that drive connection, performance, and well-being.
In a world where workplace disconnection is at an all-time high, Bobbi’s insights are a timely reminder that relationships are not just a “nice to have”—they’re a business imperative.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
03:00 — The Power of One Person
Dr. Lee, Bobbi’s college professor, sparked a lifelong journey into health psychology and human connection. This reminder: small encouragements can have ripple effects that last decades.
07:45 — What GROOOPS Gets Right About Work
Bobbi explains how her company, GROOPS, equips psychologists to support leaders in real-time with scalable, low-cost coaching—anchored in human connection and real science.
10:00 — Cohesion = Connection + Performance
Why psychological safety and team cohesion matter more than ever. Bobbi shares stats and strategies proving that relational health isn’t just about morale—it’s directly tied to profit, retention, and innovation.
14:00 — Coaching > Commanding
Using the ORS framework from motivational interviewing, leaders can build trust and autonomy by asking better questions, affirming effort, and reflecting back understanding—without adding more to their plate.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Team leaders, HR professionals, educators, and forward-thinking executives who want to stop managing tasks and start cultivating thriving cultures.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
This week, Morag sits down with Sabina Nawaz—executive coach, former Microsoft executive, and author of You Are the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be and Others Need. Sabina brings a sharp, compassionate lens to the messy reality of leadership—especially how pressure, not power, causes even the best bosses to behave badly.
From lessons learned in Microsoft’s high-stakes executive suites to real-world tools for becoming a better boss (without burning out), Sabina shares insight with warmth, clarity, and actionable wisdom.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
02:58 — The Generosity Effect: Channel Your Inner Jane
Sabina honors her former colleague Jane, whose abundant generosity left a permanent mark on her leadership style—and reminds us all to show up with presence and practical kindness, even across silos.
05:30 — It’s Not Power That Corrupts—It’s Pressure
Sabina breaks down how even well-meaning leaders shift into bad boss behaviors when pressure spikes—and why being self-aware, especially about tone and body language, is crucial as you gain more influence.
11:00 — When Good Bosses Go Rogue
In a raw story of her own, Sabina recalls the jarring moment she learned her team feared her after returning from parental leave—and how unchecked pressure warped her leadership. Her turnaround offers a candid playbook for course-correcting with humility.
17:00 — Micro-Habits, Major Change
Forget the silver bullet. Sabina advocates starting small—like being the third to speak in a meeting or shutting your laptop five minutes earlier. These micro-habits can compound into powerful shifts in behavior, perception, and trust.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders in transition, newly promoted managers, and high performers who want to grow their leadership without losing themselves—or their teams—in the process.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
We’re excited to welcome Suzie Bishop, Vice President of Product Development at the Center for Leadership Studies and member of the Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches community. In this episode, Suzie shares how the timeless model of Situational Leadership is being reimagined for today's workplace—and why trust, adaptability, and honest feedback loops are essential for thriving teams.
From her early mentors to her current work co-authoring two major leadership books (yes, two!), Suzie brings clarity, humility, and real-world wisdom to the conversation.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
02:00 — Opening Doors and Paying It Forward
Suzie reflects on two people who shaped her leadership journey.
06:00 — Leadership Is Task-Based, Not One-Size-Fits-All
Situational Leadership teaches leaders to flex their style depending on the specific task at hand and the individual’s readiness. Suzie explains the model with clarity, emphasizing how behaviors—not job titles—drive performance success.
13:00 — Why Situational Leadership Still Matters (50 Years On)
Suzie shares how the model has stood the test of time because it’s simple, behavioral, and rooted in human connection. Its relevance today is even stronger as organizations grapple with change, disengagement, and the demand for more personalized leadership.
21:00 — Coaching vs. Managing: What Power Looks Like in Practice
Suzie explores how the same leadership model functions differently in executive coaching versus management—highlighting key nuances in trust, expertise, and legitimate power.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, coaches, HR professionals, and anyone looking to lead with greater self-awareness, relationship savvy, and adaptability in times of change.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
We’re thrilled to welcome back Garry Ridge, Chairman Emeritus of WD-40 Company and author of Any Dumb Ass Can Do It. Known for his bold authenticity and signature Aussie wisdom, Garry dives into how embracing “dumbassery” is actually the key to unlocking great leadership, building cultures of belonging, and sending people home happy.
With stories ranging from riding a horse in a suit of armor through Times Square to redefining what it means to coach a team, this episode is packed with insight, heart, and humor.
🔑 4 Key Takeaways You Won’t Want to Miss:
02:18 — Vulnerability in Action: Yes, Garry really rode a horse through Times Square. But more importantly, he explains how showing up authentically—even making a spectacle of yourself—can build connection and trust within your team.
06:37 — Dumb Assery as a Superpower: Why the phrase “I don’t know” is one of the most powerful leadership tools—and how embracing your inner “dumb ass” can unlock collective brilliance.
08:52 — From Mistakes to Learning Moments: WD-40’s culture pivoted when they replaced the word “failure” with “learning moments”—creating psychological safety and sparking innovation company-wide.
12:49 — From Boss to Coach: What happens when you ditch the word “manager” and start coaching your people to play their best game? Garry shares how that mindset changed everything at WD-40.
💡 This Episode Is for:
Leaders, HR professionals, and anyone looking to lead with more empathy, humility, and results.
🔗 Where to Learn More:
In this episode of the People First Podcast, we sit down with executive coach Dina Denham Smith to explore the power of emotional agility in leadership. Dina shares how leaders can navigate change with confidence, break free from stress patterns, and foster genuine emotional awareness at work. From managing toxic positivity to understanding the mind-body connection, this conversation is filled with actionable insights to help leaders cultivate resilience and authenticity.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
07:45 – Navigating change with confidence by recognizing and addressing your emotions.
12:30 – The DARE framework: A practical tool for breaking free from the stress spiral.
18:10 – The impact of hiding, suppressing, and faking emotions at work, and how to handle toxic positivity.
23:50 – The connection between emotions and bodily sensations, and how awareness can help manage emotions effectively.
Connect with Dina Smith: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-denham-smith
And... don’t forget to check out our book! You, Me, We: Why We All Need a Friend at Work (and How to Show Up As One!) The hardcover is available now! This book is a heartfelt guide for leaders looking to build deep, meaningful relationships at work, which are the cornerstone of personal and professional success.
Get your copy here: https://amzn.to/3NrQulV
This week on People First, we’re joined by Dr. Joey Faucette, a culture architect, certified executive coach, and best-selling author of Work Positive in a Negative World: Team Edition. Dr. Joey helps organizations shift from a toxic “Kevin Culture” to a positive work culture that fuels engagement, productivity, and profits. His insights have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, CNBC, Fox Business News, and Entrepreneur Media, and he hosts the Work Positive Podcast.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
• 03:00 From Pediatric Dreams to Culture Transformation: How Dr. Joey’s early fascination with medicine evolved into a passion for helping organizations create thriving workplaces.
• 07:00 What Is a Work-Positive Culture?: Dr. Joey breaks down the five essential practices that help companies grow people and profits.
• 10:00 The Power of Mindset: How our thoughts shape our workplace experiences and why leaders must actively guide their teams toward a positive outlook.
• 14:00 The Role of Relationships in Workplace Culture: Why choosing the right people to collaborate with has a direct impact on success.
• 18:00 Small Hinges Swing Big Doors: Dr. Joey explains how small, intentional actions can lead to massive shifts in culture, innovation, and productivity.
• 22:00 The Secret to Belonging at Work: How leaders can foster an environment where employees feel valued, connected, and empowered to do their best work.
This episode is filled with practical strategies and deep insights for leaders and teams looking to transform their workplace culture. Dr. Joey’s wisdom will challenge the way you think about work and inspire you to take action.
Where to Find Dr. Joey Faucette and Learn More:
Visit www.workpositive.today to explore Dr. Joey’s resources, courses, and books.
Connect with him on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/drjoeyfaucette/
Follow Work Positive on Instagram: @workpositive.today
Watch insights on YouTube: @workpositive7529
And... don’t forget to check out our book! You, Me, We: Why We All Need a Friend at Work (and How to Show Up As One!) The hardcover is available now! This book is a heartfelt guide for leaders looking to build deep, meaningful relationships at work, which are the cornerstone of personal and professional success.
Get your copy here: https://amzn.to/3NrQulV
This week on People First, we welcome Dave MacDonald, Owner and President of Better Together Group. Built on Zig Ziglar’s philosophy—"If you help enough other people get what they want, you will get what you want"—Better Together Group helps businesses increase productivity and profitability by hiring the right people while ensuring job candidates can feed their families and fulfill their ambitions.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
This episode is packed with wisdom for leaders, business owners, and HR professionals looking to build stronger teams and create a culture where people thrive.
Where to Find Dave MacDonald and Learn More:
Visit BetterTogetherGroup.com for insights on hiring and workforce development.
Listen to Dave’s podcast, X2Z, where he and his daughter, Hannah, discuss leadership, hiring, and workplace culture: XtoZ.org
And... don’t forget to check out our book!
You, Me, We: Why We All Need a Friend at Work (and How to Show Up As One!) The hardcover is available now! This book is a heartfelt guide for leaders looking to build deep, meaningful relationships at work, which are the cornerstone of personal and professional success.
Get your copy here:
This week on People First, we welcome Mindy Honcoop, a seasoned people leader, HR advisor, and the founder of Agile in HR. With over 24 years of experience optimizing organizational success, Mindy helps leaders align culture with revenue strategy through advising, workshops, and speaking engagements.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
Where to Find Mindy Honcoop and Learn More:
Visit www.agileinhr.com and www.mindyhoncoop.com for resources on aligning culture with revenue.
Connect with Mindy on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mindyhoncoop/
This week on People First, we welcome Stephen George, a seasoned voice actor, audio professional, and broadcast producer with more than a decade of experience in the field. As a key member of Twin Flames Studios, Stephen has helped countless authors bring their words to life through expertly produced audiobooks. His mission? To guide authors through the recording process, ensuring their message is heard authentically and powerfully.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
This episode is a must-listen for authors, leaders, and anyone looking to refine their communication and storytelling skills. Stephen’s expertise and passion for helping others shine through in every aspect of his work.
Where to Find Stephen George and Learn More About Twin Flames Studios:
Visit www.TwinFlamesStudios.com to explore their audiobook production services. Connect with Stephen on LinkedIn or follow him on Instagram at @StephenGeorgeVO for insights into voice work and audiobook production.
This week on People First, we’re thrilled to welcome back Robert Glazer, founder and chairman of Acceleration Partners, a global leader in partnership marketing, and a best-selling author. Robert’s new book, Rethinking Two Weeks Notice: Changing the Way Employees Leave Companies for the Better, reimagines how professional relationships can end with dignity, mutual respect, and better outcomes for all parties.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
This episode is a must-listen for leaders, HR professionals, and anyone interested in transforming the way organizations approach employee departures. Robert’s insights provide a roadmap for creating win-win scenarios that leave lasting positive impressions.
Where to Find Robert Glazer and Learn More:
Visit www.robertglazer.com to explore Robert’s books, including Rethinking Two Weeks Notice, subscribe to his Friday Forward newsletter, and discover other valuable resources. You can also read the first three chapters of his latest book for free on his Substack.
Be sure to check out Robert’s Friday Forward newsletter for practical tips and reflections on work and life, and follow him on LinkedIn for regular updates on his work.
And... don’t forget to check out our book!
You, Me, We: Why We All Need a Friend at Work (and How to Show Up As One!). This book is a heartfelt guide for leaders looking to build deep, meaningful relationships at work, which are the cornerstone of personal and professional success.
Get your copy here: https://amzn.to/3NrQulV
This week on People First, we’re thrilled to welcome Heather Younger back to the show! Heather is the CEO of Employee Fanatix, a TEDx speaker, a three-time best-selling author, and a LinkedIn Learning course partner. Her latest book, The Art of Self Leadership: Discover the Power Within You and Learn to Lead Yourself, is a guide to uncovering your intrinsic worth, embracing self-leadership, and showing up as the best version of yourself.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
In this inspiring episode, Heather shows us how self-leadership is the foundation of all leadership. Her message? You are good enough simply because you exist. From actionable strategies to profound insights, this conversation will empower you to take charge of your journey.
Find Heather on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherryounger/ and on her website https://heatheryounger.com/
This week on People First, we welcome Nathalie Sabourin and Ron Cheshire, co-authors of the groundbreaking book Co-Development Action Learning for Business. Drawing from decades of leadership and coaching expertise, Nathalie and Ron share how their CAL (Co-Development Action Learning) methodology is transforming the way leaders and teams innovate, solve problems, and collaborate in an ever-changing business environment.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
This episode dives deep into how CAL offers a practical, scalable approach for teams to foster collaboration, accelerate projects, and create cultures of continuous learning. Whether you’re a coach, team leader, or organizational change agent, Nathalie and Ron’s insights will leave you inspired to try something new.
Learn more about Nathalie Sabourin and Ron Cheshire.
This week on People First, we’re joined by Julie Winkle Giulioni, a workplace growth champion and best-selling author. Julie helps leaders and organizations unlock talent and potential through meaningful career development. Her latest work, Help Them Grow or Watch Them Go: Career Conversations Organizations Need and Employees Still Want (now in its third edition), redefines how managers can support their teams in today’s fast-changing workplace.
Here are some key takeaways you won’t want to miss:
-03:00 From Elevator Operator Dreams to Career Champion: Julie shares her unconventional childhood aspirations and how they influenced her focus on career development.
-06:00 Beyond the Ladder: Julie explains why traditional career ladders are evolving and how opportunities within roles can offer transformative growth.
-12:00 Psychological Safety and Development: The critical role psychological safety plays in fostering meaningful development relationships in the workplace.
- 13:00 Developing at a Distance: Strategies for leaders to support the growth of remote and hybrid employees and avoid proximity bias.
-16:00 Human vs. AI: Julie underscores the enduring importance of human interaction in career conversations, even in an increasingly AI-driven world.
This episode offers a fresh perspective on career development, exploring how short, frequent, and intentional conversations can transform organizations. Julie’s insights challenge conventional approaches and inspire leaders to embrace development as an everyday practice.