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The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Mike Hower
26 episodes
3 months ago
Join veteran sustainability communicator Mike Hower as he uncovers the art and science of telling compelling social and environmental stories that drive real business impact and meaningful change. With many years of experience as both a GreenBiz journalist and communications strategist, Mike brings unique insights from both sides of the podium. Each episode dives deep into the communication challenges, opportunities, and emerging trends shaping how businesses connect with stakeholders on environmental and social issues. From navigating greenwashing risks to amplifying authentic impact stories, we explore the strategies that help organizations effectively share their sustainability journey. Whether you're a sustainability professional, communications expert, or business leader looking to strengthen your environmental storytelling, this podcast delivers actionable insights to help you transform complex sustainability initiatives into clear, compelling narratives that resonate. Let's move beyond the buzzwords and discover how to tell sustainability stories that truly matter.
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Join veteran sustainability communicator Mike Hower as he uncovers the art and science of telling compelling social and environmental stories that drive real business impact and meaningful change. With many years of experience as both a GreenBiz journalist and communications strategist, Mike brings unique insights from both sides of the podium. Each episode dives deep into the communication challenges, opportunities, and emerging trends shaping how businesses connect with stakeholders on environmental and social issues. From navigating greenwashing risks to amplifying authentic impact stories, we explore the strategies that help organizations effectively share their sustainability journey. Whether you're a sustainability professional, communications expert, or business leader looking to strengthen your environmental storytelling, this podcast delivers actionable insights to help you transform complex sustainability initiatives into clear, compelling narratives that resonate. Let's move beyond the buzzwords and discover how to tell sustainability stories that truly matter.
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Episodes (20/26)
The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
How Chief Sustainability Officers advance sustainability storytelling
In this episode, Mike sits down with Erik Hansen, Chief Sustainability Officer at Workday, to explore how CSOs have evolved into the lead communicators for corporate sustainability. Erik shares insights on building trust through transparency, making the business case for sustainability initiatives, and how companies are increasingly being asked detailed sustainability questions in hundreds of RFPs. The conversation covers practical strategies for working with legal teams on compliant communications, measuring the success of sustainability storytelling, and thinking beyond company silos to advocate for industry-wide change.
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3 months ago
31 minutes 54 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
How HP engages employees on sustainability
In this episode of The Sustainability Communicator, Mike sits down with Alexandra Talleur, an internal communications lead at HP who specializes in sustainability engagement. While companies often focus on external sustainability communication, internal communication frequently receives less attention. Yet effective employee engagement is crucial for implementing sustainability strategies and maintaining talent. Alexandra shares insights on creating meaningful internal sustainability communications, connecting sustainability to employees' roles, and navigating challenges like the "green gap" between stated values and actions.
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5 months ago
29 minutes 55 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
The peaks and valleys of sustainability communication
In this episode, host Mike Hower sits down with Dan Strechay, a seasoned sustainability communications professional who has worked across private companies, public organizations, and NGOs. They discuss the evolution of sustainability communications, how to navigate difficult topics like palm oil and climate change, and the balance between transparency and greenwashing. Dan shares insights from his career journey and offers practical advice for companies looking to communicate authentically about their sustainability efforts. This conversation, recorded in late 2024, remains relevant as sustainability professionals navigate the changing landscape of reporting requirements and stakeholder expectations.
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7 months ago
32 minutes 19 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Sustainability storytellers weigh in from GreenBiz 25
At a time when corporate sustainability faces unprecedented headwinds, last week's GreenBiz25 conference proved that sustainability leaders aren't backing down – they're doubling down on their commitments and getting more strategic about their communication. In this special episode of The Sustainability Communicator, Mike Hower sat down with six sustainability leaders from diverse industries to understand how they're navigating these challenging times. From Aileen Lerch at Allbirds discussing the power of "applied hope," to Elizabeth Eldridge at Kaiser Permanente sharing how they're moving beyond buzzwords to build trust, to Marcella Thompson at CBRE explaining how they're making sustainability visible in the built environment, each conversation revealed how companies are evolving their sustainability storytelling for 2025 and beyond. These candid discussions, recorded live at GreenBiz 25 in Phoenix, offer a unique window into how leading companies are balancing compliance, credibility, and compelling narratives in their sustainability communications.
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8 months ago
37 minutes 33 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Surviving sustainability reporting season
As corporate sustainability teams shift to focus on regulatory and compliance, more sustainability professionals are spending a lot of time creating sustainability reports. These massive PDFs can sometimes be up to 100 pages or more and take many months to develop. Love them or hate them, sustainability reports are here to stay. And the process can take its toll on the people who create them – both for in house folk and consultants. In this episode, Mike sits down to talk with Dunia Namugayi, a sustainability reporting expert who has gone through many reporting cycles and can speak to how she maintains personal sustainability through the ups and downs of creating effective reports.
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9 months ago
28 minutes

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Reclaiming the lost corporate sustainability narrative
In this timely Thinking Out Loud episode, host Mike Hower examines the evolving landscape of corporate sustainability as we enter 2025, offering a candid assessment of the shift from the "ESG Golden Age" to today's more complex reality. Drawing from his extensive experience in sustainability communications, Mike presents six key strategies for companies to reclaim their sustainability narrative: acknowledging trade-offs, focusing on material impact, bridging economic and environmental concerns, emphasizing practical solutions, breaking out of echo chambers, and embracing humility about private sector limitations. Despite highlighting significant challenges, including missed emissions targets and record-breaking temperatures, Mike maintains optimism, pointing to strong public support for corporate climate action and advocating for a more mature, honest approach to sustainability communication that balances acknowledging difficulties with maintaining commitment to necessary change.
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9 months ago
6 minutes 45 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
So you want to be a sustainability communicator?
The profession of being a sustainability communicator is relatively new – and seems to be evolving with each passing day. Success in this emerging field requires understanding the intricate goals and objectives of both sustainability and marketing teams, and developing the unique skill of translating between these often disparate organizational functions. In this episode, Mike delves into the field's evolution over the past few decades through the lens of Jessica Appelgren, a remarkable professional with unmatched depth and breadth of experience in sustainability communication.
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11 months ago
35 minutes 19 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
What a second Trump term means for corporate sustainability
The results of the 2024 U.S. presidential election came as a shock to many in the world of corporate sustainability and beyond. In one night, it seemed like years of progress on social and environmental issues were shattered. With a corrupt, climate-denying convicted criminal with blatant authoritarian ambitions heading to the White House in 2025 – corporate sustainability professionals are feeling disheartened at best and horrified at worst. While we don’t know for sure what will happen, we do know that the strength of our democratic institutions will be put to the test and federal efforts to address the climate crisis will likely be deflated in the coming years. But it’s during times like these that we need to come together most, and last week Mike Hower of Hower Impact organized an open door Zoom event called “Corporate Sustainability in a Second Trump Term.” In less than 24 hours, we had gathered interest from over 500 sustainability professionals, with more than 350 showing up for the call. During the call, in a series of fire starter chats we heard from Heather Clancy of Trellis, Matt Sekol of Microsoft who also is author of ESG Mindset, Jennifer Allyn of ClimateVoice, Patrick Flynn of Switchboard, and Anne Kelly of Ceres. In this episode of The Sustainability Communicator, we showcase some of the conversations from the call to give sustainability professionals the boost they need during these uncertain times.
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11 months ago
25 minutes 4 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Finding a voice for corporate climate policy action
As global temperatures continue to rise and we see the negative effects of a warming world, it’s becoming clear that businesses can’t address the climate crisis through voluntary action alone. Businesses need good policy to shape the rules of engagement that unlock private sector innovation to tackle tough sustainability challenges like climate. Many companies with sound corporate sustainability strategies aren’t speaking up in the policy arena for fear of alienating customers, investors, employees and other stakeholders. In this episode, Mike speaks with Bill Weihl and Deborah McNamara of ClimateVoice a nonprofit that leverages the power of corporate influence from climate-positive companies to win crucial policy battles. Without getting too political, we explore the challenges companies face around advocating on climate policy, and the opportunities they face in ensuring that they back up their sustainability communication with policy action.
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1 year ago
46 minutes 7 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
A new 'KIND' of sustainability communication strategy
While food isn’t always the flashiest sustainability topic, with agriculture being a significant driver of the climate crisis, strong sustainability communication is needed to educate and engage consumers to act. KIND is leading some cutting-edge work around regenerative agriculture – which comes with its own set of sustainability communication challenges. In this episode, Mike speaks with Lindsay Philpott, Sustainability Communication Manager at KIND to learn more about how the company navigates communicating complex sustainability topics to consumers.
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1 year ago
31 minutes 56 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
The sustainability communication woes of CSOs, with Ellen Weinreb
The role of the CSO has changed significantly over the years, from a backroom marketing function to being key figures in their company’s business operation and growth. Roughly 183 public companies in the U.S. now employ a CSO, up from 29 in 2011, according to a recent report from recruiter Weinreb Group. Of those, more than three-quarters sit on the company’s leadership team while just over a third report directly to the CEO. With this elevated status comes increasing responsibility for CSOs to be the chief communicator of a company's social and environmental efforts — both internally and externally. Yet with many CSOs coming from technical backgrounds, they aren’t always prepared to be the person behind the podium. In this episode, Mike connects with Ellen Weinreb, one of the world’s leading sustainability recruiters who has worked with countless CSOs over the years, to better understand the ever-evolving role of the CSO and what this means for sustainability communication.
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1 year ago
33 minutes 32 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Avoiding the legal landmines of greenwashing
Greenwashing law is still in its nascency, but recent regulations in Europe and case law in the U.S. is beginning to shape its future. In Europe, companies must prove that they aren’t greenwashing, while in the U.S. the burden is on the consumer to prove that a company is making false claims. As companies navigate this new legal landscape, they must tread carefully with their sustainability communication efforts. In this episode, Mike connects with legal and ESG expert Christine Uri to better understand this emerging legalese, and how sustainability communicators should proceed.
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1 year ago
16 minutes 51 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
How Microsoft maintains an ‘ESG mindset’ in the era of AI
Now that we’re halfway through 2024, it’s safe to say that ESG has been having a “complicated” year. With the anti-ESG backlash having been largely successful scaring many companies to backtrack or downplay their social and environmental work, the future of ESG remains unclear. Despite all of this, companies must strive to maintain an “ESG mindset”, according to Matt Sekol, author of the book “ESG Mindset” and Sustainability Global Black Belt at Microsoft. And in this effort, sustainability communicators have an important role to play. In this episode, Mike speaks with Matt about his new book, ESG Mindset, to help us better understand the confusion around ESG – and how sustainability communicators can help clear it up.
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1 year ago
20 minutes 1 second

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
What Gen Z wants brands to know about communicating sustainability
Companies have always been trying to engage young people on sustainability. But for some reason, this is getting harder. While Millennials were among the first to more heavily weigh social and environmental factors into employment decisions, Gen Z is taking this trend into hyperdrive. Companies hoping to attract and retain the best talent must tell authentic sustainability stories that are capable of persuading young people that they are committed to sustainability. In this episode, Mike speaks with Daniel Gonzalez — a recent Master’s graduate from the Yale School of Environment — to get a deeper understanding of what Gen Z is looking for when it comes to sustainability communication, and offer some candid advice to companies looking to do better.
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1 year ago
26 minutes 29 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
How Neiman Marcus makes sustainability fashionable
The fashion industry faces its own unique set of ESG and sustainability challenges. Understanding how to communicate complex sustainability challenges to diverse consumer audiences is critical for companies as they progress on their journeys. In this episode, Mike speaks with Ali Mize, an ESG and sustainability expert to learn more about Neiman Marcus Group’s approach to sustainability storytelling, and how companies can improve sustainability communication overall.
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1 year ago
24 minutes 14 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
What to call this thing we do, with Moody’s Raheem Cash
The words used to describe sustainability work have morphed and changed over the years — from corporate philanthropy to CSR, to sustainability and ESG. This constant change in terminology confuses even those who live and breathe it everyday and poses a big problem for sustainability communicators. What exactly should we call this “thing” we do? In this episode, Mike interviews Raheem Cash, vice president of Corporate Sustainability at Moody’s Corporation, to better understand where we've been, where we are and where we're going when it comes to sustainability terminology and discourse.
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1 year ago
31 minutes 43 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
What ESG investors want, according to GreenBiz's Grant Harrison
Over the past few years, the surge in energy in corporate sustainability has been fueled by renewed investor interest in environmental, social and governance (ESG). Sparked by Larry Fink’s 2020 investor letter, this seemed to signal a new era of investor enthusiasm for ESG information from companies they invest in. However, the anti-ESG rhetoric and increasing politicization of ESG has caused many companies to backtrack. Many companies continue to guess at what investors want from them on the ESG front. In this episode, Mike chats with Grant Harrison, Vice President of Sustainable Finance and ESG at GreenBiz, to better understand the current ESG investment landscape and how companies can better engage investors with non-financial information.
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1 year ago
27 minutes 54 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Sustainability storytelling in the new era of ESG regulations, with Tim Mohin
With several new rules and regulations around ESG communication, sustainability storytellers must adapt. In this episode, Mike speaks with global ESG leader Tim Mohin of Boston Consulting Group to learn more about how sustainability and communication professionals can best navigate this new era.
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1 year ago
23 minutes 25 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
How the owners of Grand Theft Auto communicate sustainability
The video game industry is just now “pressing start” on corporate sustainability. With comparatively low levels of resource intensity and often complex chains of custody and responsibility for social and environmental impacts, many video game makers are just now figuring out their sustainability strategies. Even still, communicating sustainability in this sector faces its own challenges and opportunities. To better understand how the video game industry is approaching sustainability storytelling, Mike connected with Neil Patel, Senior Director of Sustainability at Take Two Interactive Software — owner of Rockstar Games, which produces the popular Grand Theft Auto Franchise.
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1 year ago
9 minutes 5 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
What the SEC’s climate rules mean for sustainability communication
After two years of consideration and more than 24,000 comments, on March 6, 2024 the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) finally adopted its “rules to enhance and standardize climate-related disclosures by public companies and in public offerings.” These rules are part of an effort to respond to investor demand for more “consistent, comparable and reliable” information about the financial effects of climate-related risks on a company’s operations — and how those risks are managed while balancing concerns about mitigating costs. To better understand what made it into the final SEC climate rules, and how this impacts sustainability communication moving forward, Mike caught up with Derek Young, VP of ESG at the REIT CBL Properties.
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1 year ago
21 minutes 13 seconds

The Sustainability Communicator with Mike Hower
Join veteran sustainability communicator Mike Hower as he uncovers the art and science of telling compelling social and environmental stories that drive real business impact and meaningful change. With many years of experience as both a GreenBiz journalist and communications strategist, Mike brings unique insights from both sides of the podium. Each episode dives deep into the communication challenges, opportunities, and emerging trends shaping how businesses connect with stakeholders on environmental and social issues. From navigating greenwashing risks to amplifying authentic impact stories, we explore the strategies that help organizations effectively share their sustainability journey. Whether you're a sustainability professional, communications expert, or business leader looking to strengthen your environmental storytelling, this podcast delivers actionable insights to help you transform complex sustainability initiatives into clear, compelling narratives that resonate. Let's move beyond the buzzwords and discover how to tell sustainability stories that truly matter.