Join us for an inspiring conversation with Michael Mullings, founder of ChatFlow, who transformed from an electrical engineer in Jamaica's BPO industry to a successful SaaS entrepreneur - all without prior programming experience.
In this episode, Michael shares his remarkable journey of:
Key takeaways:
Whether you're a non-technical founder, interested in international SaaS markets, or looking for bootstrap success strategies, this episode delivers actionable insights on building a profitable SaaS from the Caribbean to the world.
🔗 ChatFlow: https://chat-flow.app🔗 MakerKit: https://makerkit.dev
Sebastian Pedavoli is CPO at Sked Social by day and an indie founder by night. In this episode, he walks through a simple, repeatable path from idea to first users: a tiny PoC to prove feasibility, real discovery on Reddit (questions, not pitches), a thin slice built on MakerKit, and a cadence shift he only found by listening (monthly/quarterly beat daily/weekly for his audience).
We get practical about where AI actually helps, why security can’t be vibe-coded, how to pick battles (build the core, buy the rest), and what changes now that LLMs drive discovery alongside search.
Why listen:If you’re trying to ship faster without burning months on scaffolding, this is the field guide. It’s hands-on, not hype.
You’ll learn:
A four-step validation loop: PoC → public questions → thin slice → cadence fit
How to use Reddit for honest discovery (and avoid getting roasted)
Where AI accelerates (debugging, refactors, new stacks) and where it doesn’t (novel logic, security)
The “monthly/quarterly” lesson that flipped Seb’s roadmap
A simple rule for buy vs. build: hand-roll what is your product; rent the rest
How to decide what’s “enough” to ship and what’s “not yet”
Why LLM traffic changes how you structure content and small tools
Who this episode is for:Non-technical founders shipping their first SaaS, technical founders who overbuild, and anyone trying to reach real users faster with fewer self-inflicted detours.
Links & resources:
Seb’s products: Watch This Page · Componentry
Build faster: MakerKit
About the guest:Sebastian Pedavoli is a product leader and indie founder from Australia. He’s CPO at Sked Social and the creator of Watch This Page and Componentry.
Rob Saric didn’t set out to build a SaaS company - he just wanted his physiotherapy clinic to stop drowning in spreadsheets.
That pain turned into Provider.app, a bootstrapped tool that’s now helping over 100 clinics focus on patient care instead of admin chaos.
In this episode, Rob and I dive into:
Why solving your own problem is the best way to find product‑market fit.
How he grew his SaaS with zero ads, relying on cold calls and genuine conversations.
The balance between tech and coaching in early SaaS businesses.
Lessons from 20+ years of entrepreneurship, including mistakes and hard pivots.
How AI is reshaping the way small teams can out-execute larger competitors.
This isn’t a growth-hack story; it’s a conversation about building something useful, sustainable, and profitable - without outside funding.
If you’re a founder trying to bootstrap your own product, this episode is full of practical advice and hard-won insights.