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The Lead Creative
Mongezi Mtati
97 episodes
3 days ago
Brands grow through trust and shared ambition. Pete Case, CEO and Creative Chairman of Ogilvy South Africa, joins The Lead Creative to discuss how long-term client–agency partnerships help brands like Volkswagen, KFC, Audi and Carling Black Label thrive. “Trust is the most important ingredient. It’s what allows us to put new, untested ideas in front of clients.” Key insights include: How longevity fuels creativity and commercial success.Why trust leads to braver, more effective work.Lessons i...
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Brands grow through trust and shared ambition. Pete Case, CEO and Creative Chairman of Ogilvy South Africa, joins The Lead Creative to discuss how long-term client–agency partnerships help brands like Volkswagen, KFC, Audi and Carling Black Label thrive. “Trust is the most important ingredient. It’s what allows us to put new, untested ideas in front of clients.” Key insights include: How longevity fuels creativity and commercial success.Why trust leads to braver, more effective work.Lessons i...
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The Lead Creative
Pete Case on How Enduring Client-Agency Partnerships Build Better Brands
Brands grow through trust and shared ambition. Pete Case, CEO and Creative Chairman of Ogilvy South Africa, joins The Lead Creative to discuss how long-term client–agency partnerships help brands like Volkswagen, KFC, Audi and Carling Black Label thrive. “Trust is the most important ingredient. It’s what allows us to put new, untested ideas in front of clients.” Key insights include: How longevity fuels creativity and commercial success.Why trust leads to braver, more effective work.Lessons i...
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4 days ago
57 minutes

The Lead Creative
Insights from 41 Years of Advertising and Marketing Measurement
Advertising needs more than good creative; it needs solid measurement. Oresti Patricios, CEO of Ornico, has spent over 40 years tracking how advertising, marketing and PR drive business growth. “The basics haven’t changed,” he says. “Marketing still exists to grow business, but measurement tells you if it’s working.” He warns against the short-term vs long-term debate: “It’s not either/or. Brand building takes time, but tactical work drives sales. You need both.” He also points out that “vani...
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1 week ago
12 minutes

The Lead Creative
Trapped in the Busyness, Not the Business of Advertising: Dr Pepe Marais
In our IMC Conference series, we reconnected with Dr Pepe Marais, Co-Founder and Group Chief Creative Officer of Joe Public, two years after our last conversation. He believes the industry remains “trapped in the busyness, not the business of advertising.” Agencies, he says, are producing hundreds of assets a month, leaving little time for ideas that last. “We’ve got the talent, but not the time to think.” Pepe calls for a reset — fewer, better ideas, more time for strategy, and trust between...
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1 week ago
30 minutes

The Lead Creative
The Loeries Measures More Than Advertising and Marketing Trends: Preetesh Sewraj
At the IMC Conference, Preetesh Sewraj, CEO of The Loeries, joined Mongezi Mtati to discuss whether the creative industry has too many awards, echoing the same sentiment shared by Chris Borain, CEO of IAB South Africa and The Bookmarks Awards. Conversation highlights Too many awards, not enough purposeThe Loeries as a research benchmarkFewer awards, higher creative standardsTrust and bravery in creativityCollaboration drives better brand outcomes___________________________ The Lead Creative P...
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2 weeks ago
11 minutes

The Lead Creative
The Bookmarks and Why Boring Advertising is Costly
Award-winning creativity takes courage, trust, and deep insight. In this episode of The Lead Creative with Bizcommunity, Steph van Niekerk (ECD, TBWA\Hunt Lascaris) and Carl Willoughby (CCO, TBWA\Hunt Lascaris and Chair of Creative Circle SA) unpack what makes campaigns like City Lodge’s Save Our Stay (SOS) and Savanna #TryJanuary stand out. They discuss why brave client partnerships matter, how humour and humanity connect with audiences, and why boring work is the most expensive kind. What y...
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 2 minutes

The Lead Creative
Conspicuous by Design: Why Standing Out Wins in Marketing and Advertising
At the IMC Conference, Dean Oelschig, Founder and MD of Halo, discusses creative bravery, the rise of independent agencies, and how Halo’s new agency, Second Rodeo, bridges brand and performance. He shares how fear and process hold back great work, and why Out of Home still drives results. This episode was produced in collaboration with Soweto Media. ___________________________ The Lead Creative Podcast is available on: AppleSpotifyYouTubeFollow us on: LinkedInFacebookXInsta...
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3 weeks ago
18 minutes

The Lead Creative
Awarding Creative Excellence and Rewarding Effectiveness
Great work still matters and it’s being recognised. Chris Borain, Executive Director of IAB South Africa, shares how The Bookmarks celebrate creative excellence that delivers real results. He also unpacks the challenges facing the industry: shrinking budgets, programmatic advertising wastage and the overuse of AI. As pressure mounts, he argues for smarter collaboration, sharper integration and a return to work that actually works. We also discuss: Why awarding creative excellence still ...
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1 month ago
1 hour 15 minutes

The Lead Creative
Research Insights: Purpose-Led Brands Earn Greater Consumer Trust
Stacey Jayne Saggers, Commercial Growth Director at Kantar, shares insights from the Mzansi Consumer Barometer, recorded at the IMC Conference. We explore how WhatsApp has become a key driver of e-commerce by enabling real-time, personalised transactions. Stacey also shares how Takealot’s township personal shopper programme has helped to bridge access and trust in online retail. Look out for: Findings from the Kantar Mzansi Consumer BarometerWhatsApp as an enabler of e-commerceTownship innova...
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1 month ago
16 minutes

The Lead Creative
From The Super Bowl to Nando’s: A Conversation with Melusi Mhlungu
From working on Super Bowl ads in the US to leading Nando’s as their newly appointed lead creative agency in South Africa, Melusi Mhlungu, Founder and Chief Creative Officer of We Are Bizarre, shares his global creative journey. Having shaped campaigns for brands like Instagram and Uber, Melusi reflects on what it takes to make brands truly interesting. We discuss: Why trust fuels bold creative workThe rise of independent agencies in South AfricaInstinct versus data in marketing decisionsWhat...
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1 month ago
12 minutes

The Lead Creative
AI, Creativity and the Future of African Marketing: Dr Gillian Hammah
Dr Gillian Hammah, CMO at Aya Data, joins us at the IMC Conference to discuss balancing AI with creativity. She explains why agencies must price for value, how Africa can take ownership of its data, and the new skills marketers need to thrive. ___________________________ The Lead Creative Podcast is available on: AppleSpotifyYouTubeFollow us on: LinkedInFacebookXInstagram Send us mail! Support the show Audio editing and production by: Maishe Rakgoale Signup for our newsletter ...
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1 month ago
19 minutes

The Lead Creative
CX, Effectiveness and the Future of Brand Building with Mandisa Theko-Khitsane
How do marketers balance creativity with delivering business impact? In this episode of The Lead Creative, I speak with Mandisa Theko-Khitsane, Chief Marketing Officer at Sanlam Retail Mass and a judge at the Effie Awards South Africa. Mandisa shares why data is part of the creative story, how to avoid vanity metrics, and what it takes to build trust with boards and communities alike. We cover: Why creativity needs proof to earn its place in the boardroom.The everyday “in-between” moments tha...
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1 month ago
50 minutes

The Lead Creative
Banning Campaigns and Reimagining Brands: Charl Bassil
At this year’s IMC Conference, Charl Bassil, Chief Brand Officer of the BBC, shared how marketing continues to shape business, culture, and the future of legacy brands. This builds on our earlier conversation from nearly a year ago, offering fresh reflections on his journey at the BBC. Charl doesn’t shy away from disruption. “Growth is critical for us because it speaks to relevance. If we want to exist, we need to be relevant.” – Charl Bassil This conversation is part of our IMC Conference se...
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1 month ago
16 minutes

The Lead Creative
Cannes Lions: Cultural Nuance and Global Impact with Xolisa Dyeshana and Saf Sindhi
What does it take to create work that wins at Cannes Lions while also solving real brand problems? In this episode of The Lead Creative, hosted by Mongezi Mtati in collaboration with Danette Breitenbach, Editor of Bizcommunity, we unpack the lessons behind award-winning campaigns. This is part of our partnership with Bizcommunity to uncover what makes work stand out locally and globally. Joining us are two of South Africa’s leading creative voices. Saf Sindhi, Chief Creative Officer of Banana...
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3 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes

The Lead Creative
Human Truth Shapes Destination Marketing: Thembisile Sehloho
What does it take to market a country like South Africa in an always-on, cluttered world? In this episode of The Lead Creative, host Mongezi Mtati speaks with Thembisile Sehloho, Chief Marketing Officer of South African Tourism, about building mindshare through emotional and cultural insight. You’ll hear about: The iconic Tastic x MaXhosa campaignMeasuring effectiveness in destination marketingHow influencer and brand values must alignWhy co-creation and agency trust drive effectivenessMaking...
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3 months ago
53 minutes

The Lead Creative
The Art of Reinvention and Creative Freedom: Jill Greenberg
Over the past three decades, Jill Greenberg has created some of the most emotionally charged work in photography, from the End Times series to surreal animal portraits. Her images have appeared on Time, Variety, Newsweek and Wired. She has worked with the likes of Netflix, Showtime and Hulu. Here are three reflections from our conversation: Keep making. Even when there’s no audience, keep showing up for your work.Originality comes from input. Your work reflects what you consume, w...
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3 months ago
45 minutes

The Lead Creative
Short-Term Thinking in Advertising and Marketing Erodes Brand Growth: Gillian Rightford
Advertising and marketing are often driven by quick wins, and campaigns are designed to spike sales or chase trends. But in doing so, brands risk losing long-term relevance and impact. In this episode of The Lead Creative, Gillian Rightford unpacks why so much work today lacks effectiveness. As MD of Adtherapy, founder of The School of Thought, and head of the Effie Awards South Africa, Gillian explains how brands can create a culture that fosters effectiveness. Key insights: Short-ter...
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4 months ago
56 minutes

The Lead Creative
Converting Strangers into an Engaged Community
How do you move from followers to a real community? In this episode, Selebogo Molefe shares how he built The Hookup Dinner, The People’s Fund, and more by focusing on trust, shared values, and consistency. We discuss building belonging, why some brands resonate while others don’t, and how to rebuild after failure. Highlights include: What brands get wrong about communityWhy consistency builds credibilityReal stories behind Skinny Sbu Socks and BATHUListen now for a grounded look at how to bui...
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5 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

The Lead Creative
Crafting Iconic Stories That Influence Generations: Angus Gibson
What makes a story iconic and lasting? In this episode of The Lead Creative, filmmaker Angus Gibson shares his journey from the genre-defining Yizo Yizo to the visually stunning Shaka Ilembe. Fresh from the edit suite of Season 2, he reflects on storytelling that dares to challenge, uplift and innovate. From painting a school red in Yizo Yizo to shooting every scene backlit in Shaka Ilembe, his process is bold, deliberate and culturally rooted. He also unpacks why failure and experiment...
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7 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

The Lead Creative
From Resonance to Relevance: The Role of Culture in Marketing, Advertising and Brand Growth
Marketing and advertising have always shaped culture and influenced society. Yet, many brands today lack cultural depth, focusing more on data and short-term wins than on building lasting connections with communities. In this episode of The Lead Creative, Donald Mokgale, MD of MoyaApp, Director of Hibirism, and co-author of Introducing Hibirism: A Guide to Black Cultural Nuance, explores how brands can embed culture into their strategy rather than just referencing it. “Marketing isn’t about r...
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8 months ago
52 minutes

The Lead Creative
People, Purpose and Profit: Growing Brands and Empowering Communities
Many brands talk about purpose, but few put it into action. In this episode, Charlie Stewart, CEO of Rogerwilco, shares insights on: How B Corp Certification ensures purpose goes beyond wordsThe shift in B2B marketing toward storytelling and emotionWhy creative effectiveness matters more than short-term salesThe role of AI in marketing and where human expertise still leadsCharlie also co-authored Business-To-Business Marketing, predicting the rise of compelling B2B creativity. The Lead Creati...
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8 months ago
47 minutes

The Lead Creative
Brands grow through trust and shared ambition. Pete Case, CEO and Creative Chairman of Ogilvy South Africa, joins The Lead Creative to discuss how long-term client–agency partnerships help brands like Volkswagen, KFC, Audi and Carling Black Label thrive. “Trust is the most important ingredient. It’s what allows us to put new, untested ideas in front of clients.” Key insights include: How longevity fuels creativity and commercial success.Why trust leads to braver, more effective work.Lessons i...