Spirituality in Leadership features a broad variety of leaders in profound, one-on-one conversations with host Andrew Cohn. Andrew and his guests explore how to bring spiritual dimensions to teams and workplaces, in service of creating more fulfillment, greater success and healthier organizations. Spiritual dimensions may or may not encompass religion, and broadly include one's deepest values, an awareness of the unseen yet certainly felt realms which exist beyond the tangible. This podcast investigates how we can engage these more profound realms and aspects of ourselves in our workplaces, and how we can incorporate the qualities of presence, acceptance, love, forgiveness, and peace in those spaces, because such qualities are needed in the workplace now more than ever before. Therefore, Spirituality in Leadership aspires to “de-dogmatize" and normalize the topic of spirituality, and to elevate its impact on people in the workplace. In each episode, Andrew gathers practical advice from the unique perspectives of his guests on the benefits of practical spirituality in their leadership. He explores how these leaders/teachers combine their own personal practices, development and spirituality to grow and to create better work cultures.
Andrew Cohn is the founder and president of Lighthouse Consulting LLC. Andrew is a counselor, executive coach and consultant who drives results through improved individual and team performance. A former attorney, his work helps leaders think more strategically, communicate more clearly and effectively, make better decisions, and lead from their values and personal purpose. Over the course of his career, Andrew has been an indispensable resource for leaders in the corporate world. He understands the drive many of us have to reach out and help people fully express themselves in the workplace; his mission involves supporting leaders who want to use their influence to make the world a better place.
The Spirituality in Leadership podcast not only provides access to Andrew’s 25+ years of experience as a counselor and advisor to leaders in a wide variety of business areas, and draws from his extensive educational background in international business, law, and spiritual psychology, but also it brings us each different guest's personal experience and wisdom. These healthy and authentic conversations inspire, encourage and challenge us to do our best work and they provide practical support for stronger leadership and more cohesive teams.
Spirituality in Leadership features a broad variety of leaders in profound, one-on-one conversations with host Andrew Cohn. Andrew and his guests explore how to bring spiritual dimensions to teams and workplaces, in service of creating more fulfillment, greater success and healthier organizations. Spiritual dimensions may or may not encompass religion, and broadly include one's deepest values, an awareness of the unseen yet certainly felt realms which exist beyond the tangible. This podcast investigates how we can engage these more profound realms and aspects of ourselves in our workplaces, and how we can incorporate the qualities of presence, acceptance, love, forgiveness, and peace in those spaces, because such qualities are needed in the workplace now more than ever before. Therefore, Spirituality in Leadership aspires to “de-dogmatize" and normalize the topic of spirituality, and to elevate its impact on people in the workplace. In each episode, Andrew gathers practical advice from the unique perspectives of his guests on the benefits of practical spirituality in their leadership. He explores how these leaders/teachers combine their own personal practices, development and spirituality to grow and to create better work cultures.
Andrew Cohn is the founder and president of Lighthouse Consulting LLC. Andrew is a counselor, executive coach and consultant who drives results through improved individual and team performance. A former attorney, his work helps leaders think more strategically, communicate more clearly and effectively, make better decisions, and lead from their values and personal purpose. Over the course of his career, Andrew has been an indispensable resource for leaders in the corporate world. He understands the drive many of us have to reach out and help people fully express themselves in the workplace; his mission involves supporting leaders who want to use their influence to make the world a better place.
The Spirituality in Leadership podcast not only provides access to Andrew’s 25+ years of experience as a counselor and advisor to leaders in a wide variety of business areas, and draws from his extensive educational background in international business, law, and spiritual psychology, but also it brings us each different guest's personal experience and wisdom. These healthy and authentic conversations inspire, encourage and challenge us to do our best work and they provide practical support for stronger leadership and more cohesive teams.
In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership Podcast, host Andrew Cohn speaks with Greg Stebbins, a pioneer in the intersection of spirituality, wisdom, and leadership. With decades of experience as a coach, consultant, and educator, Greg shares the importance of self-inquiry, values alignment, and transcendent leadership—an approach rooted in reflection, presence, and authentic connection.Greg reflects on his upbringing in a military family, his spiritual journey (inspired by his mother, “Swami Mommy”), and his path from sales and consulting to founding his leadership development practice. He emphasizes that true leadership requires ongoing wisdom development, aligning beliefs and values, and uncovering the authentic self beneath ego-driven facades.Together, Andrew and Greg explore how prayer, meditation, and contemplation foster clarity, how leaders can embody presence rather than simply perform it, and why younger generations are demanding congruence between words and actions in business. Their conversation weaves personal stories, practical tools, and deep reflections on what it means to lead from the inside out.Key Takeaways
Spirituality and wisdom are deeply connected, and leadership growth comes from developing inner wisdom.
Transcendent leadership goes beyond charisma and relies on authentic presence and self-awareness.
Gen Z leaders and employees expect alignment between words and actions, with little tolerance for hypocrisy.
Practices like prayer, meditation, and contemplation bring clarity to decision-making, emotions, and vision.
A leader’s values shape their organization’s purpose, making values alignment critical for trust and direction.
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Gregg Stebbins
Phone contact: (310) 433-5020
Website: https://peoplesavvy.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregstebbins
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Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why you think the way you think? Or what drives the choices you make every day in your work, your relationships, your leadership?
In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn speaks with Pablo Sillas Domínguez, a human relations executive and author of Heartset. Pablo shares his powerful personal journey from being a successful but workaholic HR director, whom he describes as the "wolf" of his own family, to embarking on a profound spiritual and transformational path.
The catalyst for this change was a pivotal question from a coach: "Do you know why you think the way you think?" This launched Pablo on a years-long journey of introspection, unlearning, and integrating his reason with his emotions and intuition. He explains that this personal awakening mirrors a larger societal issue, where a hyper-competitive, ego-driven mindset has led to widespread stress and disconnection.
Pablo introduces key concepts from his book, including "field thoughts," (the fusion of feeling and thinking), "charisms," (spiritual gifts), and “meditaction,” (combining meditation with action for the common good). He argues for bringing vulnerability and our whole selves into the workplace, moving from seeing people as disposable resources to recognizing them as indispensable individuals. The conversation offers a practical and aspirational framework for leaders to cultivate purpose, meaning, and healthier organizations.
Key Takeaways
From ego to essence: Real transformation begins by asking honest questions about why we think and feel the way we do.
Three pillars of being: Growth requires balance between reason, emotion, and intuition.
The Heartset framework: Shifting from competition to awareness creates space for genuine connection and shared purpose.
Unlearning to become: Letting go of old patterns and roles reveals authenticity and freedom.
Vulnerability as strength: Honest openness builds empathy, trust, and deeper relationships in the workplace.
Field thoughts and tharisms: Spiritual practices that turn personal growth into collective uplift.
Meditation in action: True mindfulness lives in behavior, not just reflection.
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Pablo Sillas Domínguez
Website: https://pablosillas.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablosillas/?locale=en_US
Book by Pablo Sillas Domínguez: Heartset: The Renaissance 2.0 of Sapiens and Conscious Organizations
Heartset: https://a.co/d/2Z0MqN6
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In this episode of the Spirituality and Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Natalie Byrne, founder of the impact and communications firm, Blank Space. Natalie shares her unique approach to helping brands, philanthropists, and leaders align their values with their work, whether it's launching a foundation, shaping a brand's legacy, or navigating a company through big transitions. Her methodology, “Blank Space,” is all about clearing the noise, getting centered, and building from a place of deep intention and purpose.
Natalie and Andrew explore how spirituality, personal alignment, and humanness play a powerful role in leadership today. From her work with global companies to advising families on their philanthropic efforts, Natalie emphasizes the importance of living your legacy every day, not just leaving one behind. The conversation flows with warmth, humor, and authenticity, touching on everything from meditation and embodiment to corporate strategy and systems change. If you’ve ever wondered how your values can fuel your work in meaningful ways, this episode is full of insight.
Key Takeaways
Blank Space Is a Leadership Practice: Creating “blank space” means removing the noise, making room for clarity, and allowing alignment and intuition to guide action.
Legacy Starts Now: Legacy is not what you leave behind. It’s how you live every day. Whether you’re a parent, philanthropist, or executive, you’re always building it.
Alignment Beats Overwhelm: Saying no to what doesn’t align with your values opens up the space to do what matters most with impact and ease.
Language Shapes Leadership: Words like “climate change” or “diversity” carry weight. Reframing with inclusivity can unite rather than divide.
Leadership Is Human: Congruence across our spiritual practices, business lives, and everyday actions is the future of meaningful leadership.
In This Episode:
[00:02] Introduction and setting the stage
[03:16] Natalie’s path and Blank Space origins
[06:39] Leadership and societal impact
[08:32] Spirituality, alignment, and everyday practice
[11:09] Defining Blank Space
[14:23] Blank Space in action and methodology
[16:28] Blank Space method: process and application
[19:45] Legacy, storytelling, and brand language
[21:34] Overcoming resistance and creating alignment
[23:26] The power of language and framing
[25:12] The role of saying no and strategic focus
[28:29] Client examples and impact stories
[33:18] Spirituality, values, and inclusive language
[36:13] Humanness, nature, and reducing categories
[38:02] Opportunity for reflection and kindness
[40:25] Alignment, embodiment, and leading with heart
[41:21] Closing and where to learn more
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Natalie Byrne
Website: https://www.blankspaceworks.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebyrne
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What if the key to a longer, healthier, and more successful life isn’t found in a diet or workout plan, but in what you believe, where your faith itself could help you live longer and thrive?
In this compelling episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Dr. Harold Koenig, a preeminent scholar from Duke University's Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health. With over four decades of research, Dr. Koenig shares powerful, evidence-based insights on the undeniable connection between religious faith and well-being.
He reveals how faith, on average, leads to greater happiness, better mental health, and even a longer lifespan by 7-14 years. The mechanisms are clear: faith provides meaning, fosters strong social support, and encourages healthier behaviors. But what about non-believers? Dr. Koenig discusses his book, Spiritual Readiness, explaining that anyone can achieve similar benefits by cultivating a positive belief system, a strong community, and moral habits, though he notes this is often easier within a religious framework.
The conversation also explores the practical application of this research in leadership and healthcare, highlighting how faith-inspired leaders often create more inclusive and productive workplaces. This episode is a fascinating look at how nurturing our spiritual core can be a profound asset for personal and professional success.
Key Takeaways
Faith and health are scientifically linked: Decades of peer-reviewed research show that religious or spiritual belief correlates with greater happiness, longer life expectancy, and better mental health.
Non-believers benefit too: A positive belief system, moral habits, and strong social connections can provide similar health outcomes though sustaining them without a faith tradition can be challenging.
Global evidence: Studies in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism consistently reveal similar patterns of improved health and resilience.
Healthcare opportunity: Despite overwhelming evidence, most healthcare systems neglect patients’ spiritual needs, though medical schools are slowly integrating this dimension into training.
In This Episode:
[00:01] Opening remarks and research overview
[00:22] Non-believers and health benefits
[00;57] Podcast introduction and guest background
[03:55] Dr. Koenig’s center and research mission
[05:04] Approaching the religion-health connection
[06:45] Personal motivation for teaching
[07:36] Center’s and personal research objectives
[08:19] Most compelling recent research
[09:28] Epidemiological evidence and health outcomes
[10:03] Mechanisms behind health benefits
[11:29] International research and consistency
[12:14] Health behaviors among the religious
[13:34] Human nature and self-control
[15:34] Global interest in spirituality-health research
[17:36] Acceptance and accessibility of research
[18:11] Resources for further learning
[19:23] Spirituality in the workplace
[20:22] Religious faith and leadership qualities
[21:52] Communicating research to business leaders
[22:58] Application in healthcare leadership
[25:33] Trends in healthcare spirituality
[26:30] Optimism for future integration
[27:39] Religion and optimism
[29:18] Where to learn more
[30:13] Closing remarks
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Dr. Harold Koenig
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harold-koenig-5a1544283
Books by Dr. Harold Koenig: The Healing Power of Faith, Spiritual Readiness: A Guide for Non-Believers, and Handbook of Religion and Health (3rd Edition, 2024)
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In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, Andrew Cohn sits down with world-renowned horseman Warwick Schiller for a deeply personal and profound conversation on transformation, emotional intelligence, and the unexpected teachers in life: horses.
Warwick opens up about his journey from high-level competition and the pursuit of external validation to a more grounded, spiritually attuned approach to life and horsemanship. What started as trying to “fix” a talented but quirky horse became a mirror that revealed suppressed emotions, judgmental thinking, and the need for deeper connection with self and others. That turning point led him to therapy, self-inquiry, and eventually, the work of Brené Brown, whose insights on vulnerability and emotional suppression hit him like a lightning bolt.
Warwick shares how therapy, vulnerability, and learning to truly “see” rather than judge, whether a horse or a human reshaped not only how he trains, but how he lives. He explores how presence, empathy, and self-awareness create real leadership, both in and out of the arena.
If you’ve ever felt that personal growth could come from the most unlikely of places, this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways
Horses Mirror Our Inner State: Often, the behavior we’re trying to “fix” in others, horse or human, reflects unresolved energy within ourselves.
Presence Over Patience: True leadership comes from being deeply present, not just waiting for a desired outcome.
Judgment Undermines Connection: Becoming aware of judgmental thoughts, especially self-judgment, creates space for compassion, clarity, and healing.
You Can’t Lead What You Haven’t Met in Yourself: Personal growth and leadership are intimately tied; as we heal ourselves, we lead better.
Functional Doesn’t Mean Whole: Like people, some horses appear to perform well but are emotionally shut down. Healing begins with seeing.
The Universe Responds to Purity of Intention: True service, offered without expectation, opens unexpected doors.
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Warwick Schiller
Website: https://go.warwickschiller.com/online-horse-trainer
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/warwick-schiller-23b76968
Facebook Fanpage: https://www.facebook.com/Warwickschillerfanpage/
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/WarwickSchillerPerformanceHorsemanship/
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What if the most powerful tool a leader has isn’t a strategy, a speech, or even a brilliant plan, but is instead silence? In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with María José Sánchez, a leadership consultant, executive coach, and author based in Madrid, Spain.
During the conversation, María shares her fascinating journey from telecommunications engineer to leadership mentor, showing how she combines her analytical, scientific side with the deeper wisdom of silence and spirituality. She talks about how silence reshaped her leadership style, helping her move from being pushy and results-driven to leading with calm, presence, and authenticity. For her, true leadership impact begins from within, by taking time to pause, reconnect with yourself, and then return to the outside world with clarity, energy, and insight.
She also introduces her idea of “spiritual snacks,” short pauses throughout the day to recharge and realign, and her “five-finger rule,” a practical tool for managing thoughts that reminds leaders to take ownership of their inner state, let go of unhelpful thinking, and focus on positivity, resilience, and trust.
María highlights her books and her digital leadership platform, Lidero, which offers simple, accessible lessons from her decades of experience. This episode is an inspiring reminder that real leadership always starts from within.
Key Takeaways
Leadership impact comes from the inside; silence fosters wisdom, clarity, and presence.
Experience precedes understanding; leaders must invite others into experiences, not just explanations.
Daily practices of silence, meditation, and “spiritual snacks” keep leaders grounded and energized.
Self-discipline is essential for freedom and sustained transformation, much like physical training.
Preparation is less about perfect words and more about the state of being a leader brings into the room.
True leadership is a virtuous cycle: inner stillness fuels outer effectiveness, which in turn deepens inner growth.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction
[01:19] Introduction to María José Sánchez
[03:31] María's journey from engineering to leadership
[06:41] The power of silence in leadership
[10:25] Practical applications of inner wisdom
[14:56] Inviting leaders to experience inner wisdom
[18:34] Daily practices for inner connection
[23:36] The importance of inner state in conversations
[24:47] A magical moment with the CEO
[26:02] The role of preparation and presence
[26:51] Spirituality in leadership
[28:33] Self-discipline and daily practice
[32:45] Navigating change and uncertainty
[35:38] The five finger rule for managing thoughts
[39:32] María Jose's books and resources
[43:44] Conclusion and final thoughts
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
María José Sánchez
Website: sanchezyagoo.com
Leadership Consultancy: creatingahuman.com
Leadership Platform: aceleratolead.com
LinkedIn: mariajosesanchezyago
Book shop: https://sanchezyago.com/product-list/
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In this powerful episode, host Andrew Cohn speaks with Dr. Karen Wilson-Starks, clinical psychologist, executive coach, and host of The Voice of Leadership podcast. With decades of experience, including as an Army psychologist and senior faculty at the Center for Creative Leadership, Dr. Karen shares how deep faith and a spirit of service have shaped her approach to leadership.
Karen opens up about her early struggles to integrate spirituality with psychology and how she became a pioneering voice encouraging others to bring their whole selves, including their spiritual dimension, into the workplace. She reflects on the meaning of eldership as witnessing and blessing, and how modeling peace and presence can be more powerful than words.
Together, Andrew and Karen explore how spiritual grounding, especially her Christian faith, can support leaders through uncertainty, foster inclusive workplaces, and serve as an anchor in turbulent times. Whether it’s leading through riots, coaching executives one-on-one, or mentoring the next generation, Karen’s presence and perspective offer wisdom for leaders of all kinds.
Key Takeaways
Leadership begins with self-leadership. As Karen says, “You are the instrument of your leadership” — and that instrument needs regular tuning.
Spirituality adds depth to leadership. Leaders of faith can draw from inner peace, presence, and purpose — even in secular settings.
Eldership means modeling, mentoring, and blessing. Being an elder is about showing what’s possible and supporting others on their path.
Peace is contagious. A grounded leader sets the emotional tone for an entire organization.
Respectful inclusion is essential. Faith-based leadership can be offered with openness and humility, never imposition.
We influence more than we know. Whether through family, clients, or peers, our presence creates ripples beyond our awareness.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction to eldership and wisdom
[01:06] Welcome to the podcast
[01:41] Introducing Dr. Karen Wilson-Starks
[05:13] Dr. Karen's journey in psychology and spirituality
[06:14] Challenges in combining psychology and spirituality
[09:55] The role of elders in different cultures
[12:59] The importance of role models
[17:20] Spirituality in leadership
[18:34] Integrating faith in professional settings
[23:57] Leveraging faith to lead with peace
[25:44] The CEO's influence on organizational peace
[26:14] Finding personal peace in leadership
[27:13] Jesus as a model for peaceful leadership
[28:03] Modeling peace in the workplace
[29:26] The impact of faith on leadership
[33:08] Changes in workplace spirituality
[39:30] Balancing faith and inclusivity in leadership
[40:49] Practical examples of faith in leadership
[44:42] Conclusion and resources
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Dr. Karen Wilson-Starks
Podcast: The Voice of Leadership
Website: https://transleadership.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbX0XrG1TknGthurUMnFXdA
Email: drkaren@transleadership.com
Andrew Cohn
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Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Rebecca Wilson, executive coach, mindfulness teacher, and founder of Arborvida, an organization dedicated to helping leaders cultivate self-awareness, purpose, and conscious leadership from the inside out.
Together, they explore what happens when leaders slow down, cut through the noise, and reconnect with their deeper sense of meaning. Andrew and Rebecca dive into why leadership is ultimately an inner journey and how greater self-awareness, intention, and presence can transform the way we lead, make decisions, and show up for others.
They also unpack real challenges leaders face, like burnout, overwhelm, and the constant pressure to “do more,” while offering practical tools to lead with clarity, impact, and fulfillment, whether it’s honoring silence in meetings, setting clear intentions, or creating space for reflection.
Rebecca also shares details about her latest initiative, The Conscious Leaders Collective – a peer-driven community supporting mindful, purpose-driven leaders navigating today’s fast-paced, high-pressure environments.
If you’re a leader looking to expand your impact, avoid burnout, and lead with more presence, this episode offers valuable insights and inspiration for the journey.
Key Takeaways
Leadership is an inside job. True leadership starts with self-awareness, reflection, and intentional action.
Quiet the noise to hear your inner compass. Slowing down reveals the subtle insights that guide purpose-driven leadership.
Small practices create big shifts. Moments of silence, pausing to set intentions, and simple reflective questions help leaders reconnect with what matters.
Leaders shape culture through energy, not just words. How you show up impacts your team as much as what you say or do.
Spirituality in leadership is human, not hierarchical. It’s about connection, fulfillment, and meaning, not religion or exclusion.
Community matters. Peer-to-peer spaces for reflection help leaders stay anchored in their values and purpose.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction to the invitational approach
[00:39] Value of language in spiritual development
[01:19] Podcast introduction and guest background
[03:00] Rebecca’s journey into spirituality and leadership
[03:42] Challenges of spiritual language in the workplace
[06:05] Rebecca’s coaching approach and client resonance
[08:14] Practicality and inclusivity in coaching
[09:27] Examples of coaching work and client challenges
[12:34] Case study: burnout and reconnection
[17:40] Depth and root causes in coaching
[18:13] Encouraging leaders to foster deeper conversations
[19:14] Embodiment and leading by example
[20:37] Simple practices for leaders: silence and questions
[23:30] Intention setting in leadership
[27:12] Self-awareness and flexibility in leadership
[30:12] Rebecca’s coaching model and peer groups
[33:18] Sustaining growth through community
[35:00] Finding Rebecca and final reflections
[36:40] Closing remarks and podcast outro
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Rebecca Wilson
Arborvida : https://www.arborvida.com/
The Conscious Leaders Collective: https://www.arborvida.com/the-collective
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In this eye-opening episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn is joined by Bond Snodgrass—banker, sustainability entrepreneur, and creator of Awakened Economics—for a rich conversation about reimagining how we lead, measure success, and shape the systems we live in.
Bond shares his personal journey from the high-stakes world of global finance to a deeper spiritual awakening sparked by a health crisis. That turning point led him to question the economic assumptions we take for granted—especially the idea that growth always equals progress. Together, Bond and Andrew explore how leaders can bring more consciousness into business—without sacrificing performance.
From ESG investing and stakeholder capitalism to redefining what we even mean by “value,” this episode offers bold ideas and grounded insights for leaders who want to build organizations that serve both people and the planet. It’s part vision, part toolkit—and all heart.
Ready to rethink what leadership and economics can be? Hit play and join the conversation.
And don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode that challenges, inspires, and uplifts your leadership journey.
Key Takeaways
Spirituality in business is possible: High-consciousness leadership doesn’t negate profitability—it deepens responsibility.
Stakeholder capitalism expands the definition of who matters in business beyond shareholders to include employees, communities, and the planet.
Sustainability is multidimensional: It encompasses economic viability, social responsibility, and environmental stewardship.
Young professionals care: Gen Z and Millennials are driving demand for purpose-driven companies and ESG transparency.
Economics can evolve: Bond’s “awakened definition” of economics centers on interdependence, service, and sustainable well-being—replacing outdated models of infinite self-interest.
Progress, not perfection: Even small commitments to sustainability or spiritual values by leaders can make meaningful shifts.
In This Episode:
[00:00:01] Bond’s spiritual awakening and health crisis
[00:00:52] Introduction to the podcast and guest
[00:03:57] Bond’s career journey and spirituality
[00:07:04] The genesis of awakened economics
[00:08:24] High consciousness in business
[00:09:31] Defining spirituality and connection
[00:10:39] Applying spirituality to business and sustainability
[00:11:38] Community and the conscious business movement
[00:13:01] Shareholder vs. stakeholder capitalism
[00:14:22] Three pillars of sustainability
[00:16:18] Defining sustainability and its origins
[00:17:52] Theoretical vs. practical impact for leaders
[00:19:08] Progress and CEO commitment
[00:20:55] ESG reporting and market demand
[00:23:10] Growth and pushback in ESG investing
[00:25:04] Complexity and lack of standards in sustainability
[00:26:53] Challenges for corporations in sustainability
[00:27:56] Responding to business leader skepticism
[00:30:13] Benefits of sustainability for business
[00:32:42] Sustainable finance and green bonds
[00:32:56] Regional differences in sustainability practices
[00:35:26] Trends and the future of sustainability
[00:37:09] Challenges in ESG implementation
[00:38:15] Political pushback and communication issues
[00:39:30] Economic benefits of sustainability initiatives
[00:41:26] Introduction to awakened economics
[00:41:33] Critique of neoclassical economics
[00:44:06] Proposing a conscious economic model
[00:46:25] Awakened definition of economics
[00:49:41] Resources and closing
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Bond Snodgrass
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bond-snodgrass-99274932/en
Awakened Economics: https://awakenedeconomics.substack.com/
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What does it mean to lead with both purpose and integrity in a world that often separates the spiritual from the professional?
In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with John Mitchell, a leadership development consultant, coach, and fellow "recovering lawyer," to explore the intersection of spirituality, faith, and effective leadership. John shares his unique journey—from growing up in a military family with broad exposure to diverse faiths, to his current work helping leaders align their actions with their deepest values.
The conversation explores the challenges of congruence—ensuring one’s behavior aligns with one's stated beliefs—and the importance of interconnectedness as a guiding principle in leadership. John offers practical insights for leaders across sectors, from corporate executives to faith leaders, on how to navigate hypocrisy, foster inclusivity, and make decisions rooted in integrity.
Whether you're a corporate executive, faith leader, or purpose-driven professional, this episode offers powerful, practical wisdom on navigating ethical dilemmas, embracing inclusivity, and making value-aligned decisions in complex environments. Listen now to discover how spirituality can be a strength—not a side note—in leadership.
Key Takeaways
Faith and spirituality aren’t the same—but often overlap.
Congruence matters. Leadership credibility stems from living your values consistently, not just preaching them.
Leaders need mirrors. Coaches can help by reflecting back a leader’s own values—especially during moments of self-doubt or hubris.
The best leaders check themselves. High-integrity leaders actively ask, “Are my actions aligned with my beliefs?”
Inclusiveness grows from spiritual awareness. A belief in interconnectedness leads to more inclusive and effective leadership.
Discernment is not judgment. Leaders must evaluate situations with clarity without falling into prejudice or rigidity.
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction: Faith vs. spirituality
[03:00] John’s childhood, military upbringing, and multifaith exposure
[06:00] Spirituality through the lens of connection and nature
[10:00] Diversity, integration, and spiritual evolution
[13:00] Coaching faith leaders and guiding them through their own frameworks
[18:00] The danger of ego and the pedestal problem
[24:00] Leading with integrity—lessons from a transportation executive
[30:00] Self-checks and internal congruence as a leadership discipline
[36:00] Discernment vs. judgment in decision-making
[39:00] Leadership in law firms and the challenge of tough decisions
[41:00] Closing reflections and where to find John online
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
John Mitchell
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In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Allison Schultz, coach, writer, and co-founder of Reboot—to explore a deeper, more human-centered approach to leadership.
At Reboot, coaching goes beyond developing managerial skills. It’s about transformation—helping leaders access their full humanity through radical self-inquiry, embodied presence, and spiritual integration.
Drawing from her rich background, including a master’s in Religious Studies, a lifelong bond with horses, and her new book The Art of Being Human at Work, Ali shares candid stories and powerful insights. She speaks openly about how childhood emotional invisibility and early discomfort with corporate norms shaped her path. Her connection with horses, which she describes as a sacred devotional practice, has deeply informed her understanding of relational intelligence and inner work.
Together, Andrew and Ali explore how spirituality, shadow work, and embodiment can shift the very foundation of how we lead and show up in the workplace.
Key Takeaways
The connection between early family dynamics and later leadership patterns
Why Religious Studies offers a surprisingly practical lens for coaching
How horses taught Ali the power of presence, embodiment, and devotion
The sacred importance of shadow work in leadership development
Why “making peace with your shadows” is foundational to authentic leadership
How The Art of Being Human at Work bridges spiritual depth with professional growth
The impact of edited spiritual traditions—and what was left out
How journaling and reflection support sustained leadership growth
Leadership as a relational and inner-development practice—not performance
In This Episode:
[00:00] Opening reflections on coaching and religious studies
[01:05] Meet Ali Schultz: co-founder of Reboot and horsewoman-philosopher
[03:48] Her early tension with work and the seeds of integration
[07:53] The practicality of a Religious Studies degree for coaching
[11:20] Horses and embodiment: a devotional relationship
[15:25] Growing up emotionally unseen—and being witnessed by animals
[18:45] Do coaches talk enough about religion and meaning?
[22:23] Turning blog essays into a leadership wisdom book
[24:37] Parker Palmer quote + spiritual wisdom in the workplace
[26:52] How to use the book + journaling for integration
[28:44] Reboot's approach to coaching and shadow work
[33:55] The sacred act of holding space as a coach
[36:59] Where to learn more: Reboot.io and beyond
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Allison Schultz
Website:
Book:
The Art of Being Human at Work
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alschultz
Andrew Cohn
Music:
Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cone Cohn is joined by Dr. Erika Kleestorfer, a seasoned leadership consultant and executive coach. With over two decades of experience in corporate leadership development, Dr. Kleestorfer offers invaluable insights into the intersection of spirituality and leadership. She shares her unique perspective on how understanding one’s essence, core values, and inner light can help leaders navigate challenges and inspire teams to thrive.
Drawing on her extensive experience working with global organizations including IBM, Dr. Kleestorfer explains how spirituality in leadership is not just a concept, but a practice that enhances business success, team cohesion, and individual fulfillment. From creating a safe space for emotional growth to utilizing frameworks like the PERMA model, this episode provides both spiritual wisdom and practical tools for leaders at all levels.
Key Takeaways
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction to Dr. Erika Kleestorfer and her background
[03:07] The essence of spirituality in leadership
[05:23] Key questions for leaders to ask themselves and their teams
[07:46] The connection between emotional intelligence and effective leadership
[10:25] How leaders can foster a culture of openness and trust
[14:17] The PERMA model and its application in leadership
[18:45] Adapting to the changing workforce and generational shifts in leadership
[23:10] Practical steps for integrating spirituality into corporate leadership
[28:05] Closing thoughts on leadership and spiritual growth
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Dr. Erika Kleestorfer
Website: www.kleestorfer.com
Podcast: Alles Liebe, Erika – Podcast on Spotify
Workshop: Transformational Leadership Journey
Andrew Cohn
Music:
How can one’s personal experiences with life and meaning translate into corporate leadership and a legacy of meaning? In this powerful conversation on the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, Andrew Cohn sits down with Steve Hart, educator, leadership coach, musician, and former executive at the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, to explore the deep connection between the human spirit, meaningful work, and adaptive leadership.
Steve opens up about a transformative near-death experience that reshaped his entire life, and how that moment of awakening fuels his mission to infuse workplaces with soul, trust, and purpose. Steve brings wisdom, warmth, and clarity from his early days as a special education teacher to leading large-scale cultural shifts in government and nonprofit organizations.
You’ll hear about the surprising lessons leadership can take from nature (particularly Zoysia grass!), how reflection becomes a gateway to growth, and why trust is the bedrock of real transformation. Whether you're leading a team or navigating your inner shift, this episode is a blueprint for blending practical leadership with deeper personal truth.
Key Takeaways
Why leadership starts with trust, not tactics
The “warrior and artist” polarity is one that every great leader must balance
Steve’s near-death experience and how it sparked a lifelong transformation
How to lead organizational culture shifts with empathy and vision
What quantum physics and zoysia grass can teach us about change
The role of reflection and safe spaces in leadership development
How places like Cranaleith Spiritual Center (https://cranaleith.org) offer renewal for leaders and frontline workers alike
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction and near-death experience
[00:14] Leadership foundations in special education
[00:34] Podcast introduction and guest overview
[01:09] Steve Hart's leadership journey
[03:20] Connecting spirituality and leadership
[05:23] Special education insights and leadership
[10:20] Transforming leadership at the Federal Reserve
[20:21] Personal transformation and near-death experience
[27:11] Spiritual experiences and family connections
[27:49] Discovering Life After Life
[28:14] Introduction to Cran Oleth
[28:25] The history and mission of Cranaleith
[30:20] Personal reflections and leadership at Cran Oleth
[32:58] Connecting spirituality with corporate leadership
[42:43] Adaptive leadership and organizational change
[48:34] Final thoughts and resources
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Steve Hart
Cranaleith Spiritual Center: https://cranaleith.org/
Andrew Cohn
Music:
Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Gino Peremans, a men’s work expert and leadership coach from Belgium. Gino’s journey is both gripping and inspiring—from a challenging childhood to becoming a mentor for men seeking to break free from societal expectations. He shares how he went from feeling lost and disconnected to creating spaces where men can rediscover their true selves.
Gino dives deep into the importance of vulnerability, connection, and building healthy communities of men. He talks about the retreats he leads—transformative experiences where men step away from the pressures of performance and status to embrace their inner lives. But this isn’t just theory; Gino offers practical tools to bring this mindset into your personal and professional life. Whether you’re leading a team, a family, or just yourself, his insights are game-changing.
This conversation is for anyone who’s ever felt the weight of pretending to be someone they’re not. Gino’s message is clear: true leadership starts with authenticity. Tune in to discover how you can step into a new kind of strength—one rooted in vulnerability, connection, and your truest self.
Key Takeaways
Exploration of men's work and healthy masculinity
Challenges men face regarding vulnerability and societal expectations
Importance of creating deeper connections and conversations among men
Personal journey and experiences of the guest related to emotional expression
Societal pressures on men to perform and provide
The concept of brotherhood and support among men
Impact of modern distractions, such as social media, on genuine connections
Establishing safe spaces for men to share vulnerabilities
The role of curiosity and reflection in personal growth
The potential ripple effects of men's work on families and communities
In This Episode:
[00:00] Introduction to addiction and external validation
[01:09] Meet Gino: background and professional journey
[08:41] Gino's personal journey and struggles
[14:21] The role of vulnerability and brotherhood in men's work
[17:32] Challenges of modern masculinity and distraction
[22:22] Challenges faced by executives and managers
[23:25] The concept of a healthy tribe
[24:28] Building a sense of community
[25:22] Encouraging vulnerability and personal sharing
[29:02] Introducing Gentle Giants
[32:15] Practical tools for corporate settings
[35:32] Reconnecting with the body
[38:17] Conclusion and resources
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Gino Peremans
Website: https://www.ginoperemans.com/
Andrew Cohn
Music:
Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
In this episode of Spirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with Judi Neal, a pioneer in workplace spirituality and the force behind the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality and Edgewalkers International. Judi opens up about her personal journey, including her time at Honeywell, where she took a stand as a whistleblower—an experience that reshaped her understanding of integrity, trust, and spiritual resilience.
Together, Andrew and Judi explore how spirituality can transform leadership and workplace culture, making organizations more compassionate, ethical, and inclusive. Drawing insights from her books Inspiring Workplace Spirituality, Edgewalkers, and Creating Enlightened Organizations, Judi shares practical ways to integrate faith and spirituality into daily work life—no matter your beliefs.
This conversation is for anyone looking to lead with greater purpose, foster a more inclusive workplace, or simply navigate their career with a deeper sense of meaning.
Key Takeaways
Integration of spirituality into leadership and business practices
The concept of blessings in the workplace and recognizing inherent value
Personal experiences and stories related to workplace spirituality
The ethical dilemma faced by a whistleblower and its impact on personal values
The importance of aligning personal values with professional responsibilities
Fostering a culture of appreciation, trust, and community in organizations
The transformative power of spirituality in creating ethical and compassionate work environments
Impact of spirituality on leadership styles and organizational culture
The concept of "edge walkers" as individuals bridging material and spiritual worlds
Mindfulness and self-reflection as tools for effective leadership
Addressing skepticism and resistance to spirituality in professional contexts
Resources and frameworks for implementing spirituality in organizations
In This Episode:
(00:00:01) Introduction to appreciative inquiry
(00:01:09) Introduction of Judi Neal
(00:03:28) Reading from Inspiring Workplace Spirituality
(00:04:48) Moment of silence
(00:06:05) Concept of blessing
(00:07:26) Transforming judgment to blessing
(00:10:07) Impact of workplace negativity
(00:10:52) Appreciative inquiry practice
(00:11:00) Discussion on blessing and religion
(00:12:39) Cultural creative study insights
(00:14:45) Judi's journey into spirituality
(00:15:49) Whistleblower experience at Honeywell
(00:16:51) Moral dilemma in the workplace
(00:20:46) Spiritual awakening
(00:23:24) Consequences of whistleblowing
(00:24:33) Spiritual awakening and connection
(00:26:35) Legal action against Honeywell
(00:28:44) Teaching management and tokenism
(00:31:10) Common themes among leaders
(00:33:23) Reception of spirituality in the workplace
(00:33:49) Defining religion, spirituality, and faith
(00:35:48) Building bridges between worldviews
(00:39:14) Authenticity and trust in organizations
(00:39:59) Creating space for conversations
(00:41:26) Practices for opening doors to meaning
(00:43:47) Inspirational reading assignments
(00:46:47) Eileen Fisher's personal growth initiative
(00:48:04) Spirituality as a dimension of diversity
(00:51:04) Offering options for spiritual practices
(00:52:04) Gateways to workplace spirituality
(00:57:00) Gratitude and invitation
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Judi Neal
Book:https://www.amazon.com/Inspiring-Workplace-Spirituality-Future-Work/dp/1837536155
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Enlightened-Organizations-Gateways-Spirit/dp/1137335157
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Edgewalkers-People-Organizations-Bridges-Ground/dp/0275989208
Andrew Cohn
Music:
What if the most effective and fulfilled leaders aren’t just those with the sharpest strategies or the best data, but those who tap into something deeper—something instinctive? Could the true power of leadership lie in embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and the ability to create nurturing environments? What if leadership goes beyond tactics and dives into the realm of self-awareness, authenticity, and inner wisdom?
In this episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn and Alicia Rodriguez, a coach and consultant based in the Algarve, Portugal, discuss the profound integration of spirituality in leadership. Alicia shares her expertise on how leaders can cultivate intuition and somatic awareness guiding them through experiential learning in nature and using innovative tools like sound healing and creative exercises. Together, Andrew and Alicia explore how these practices can help leaders not only embody their values but also navigate challenges with greater clarity, confidence, and impact.
Alicia reflects on her transformative journey in Ecuador, where she learned from a shaman, and she touches on the insights found in her book, The Shaman’s Wife. Alicia also emphasizes the vital importance of rest, stillness, and creating the right conditions for success, all while inspiring personal and professional transformation.
Tune in to discover how embracing intuition, somatic awareness, and spiritual practices can elevate your leadership style and bring deeper meaning to your work.
Key Takeaways
The significance of intuition and somatic awareness in leadership.
The impact of immersing ourselves in nature on developing intuitive abilities.
The importance of congruence between a leader's values and actions.
The use of experiential learning in nature to enhance self-awareness.
Incorporation of healing modalities, such as sound therapy, in leadership coaching.
The concept of "Becoming Limitless" and transcending self-imposed limits.
The necessity of granting permission for emotional expression and authenticity.
The transformative power of creative exploration and reframing perspectives on challenges.
In This Episode:
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Alicia Rodriguez
Website: https://aliciamrodriguez.com/
Andrew Cohn
Music:
Like it or not, leadership isn’t just about making decisions and getting things done—it’s about how you get things done. Productivity without purpose leads to burnout, while purpose without action leaves potential unfulfilled. What if the secret to stress-free leadership lies in balancing both?
In this episode ofSpirituality in Leadership, host Andrew Cohn sits down with David Allen, the mastermind behindGetting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity. Together, they explore the intersection of leadership, authenticity, and inner guidance, revealing how GTD principles can help leaders not only manage their workload but also lead with clarity, trust, and intention.
From overcoming overwhelm to embracing the “still small voice” within, this conversation offers powerful insights on how leaders can create an environment of engagement, psychological safety, and true effectiveness. Whether you're a seasoned executive or just starting your leadership journey, this episode will challenge you to rethink productivity—not just as a tool for efficiency but as a pathway to deeper fulfillment and impact.
Ready to transform the way you lead? Tune in now and discover how to integrate stress-free productivity with authentic leadership. Don’t forget to subscribe, share the episode, and let us know your biggest takeaway in the comments!
Key Takeaways
The intersection of spirituality and leadership
How authenticity boosts engagement and trust within teams
The importance of accepting current realities
The balance between personal productivity and collaboration
The role of inner guidance in decision-making
Managing leadership challenges and information overload
Building psychological safety in teams
Clarity of purpose and direction in leadership
Trust, vulnerability, and authenticity in leadership dynamics
Integrating spiritual wisdom with practical productivity strategies
Teaching productivity principles to the next generation
In This Episode:
(00:04) – Welcome and introduction(00:36) – Meet David Allen(01:39) – Authenticity in leadership(02:47) – Embracing the current reality(03:57) – Tuning into your “still small voice”(04:51) – Balancing practical and spiritual approaches(06:01) – Understanding authenticity(08:11) – The cost of inauthenticity(09:11) – Developing your authentic self(10:30) – The significance of embracing the current reality(12:07) – Managing overwhelm as a leader(14:29) – Tools vs. authenticity(15:03) – Encouraging authentic leadership in others(16:07) – Framework for authentic conversations(19:17) – The importance of vulnerability and trust(20:36) – Engagement and leadership(21:21) – Spirituality’s role in leadership(21:30) – The power of spirit in leadership decisions(23:16) – Authenticity and shifting perspectives(25:48) – Revisiting the “still small voice”(27:13) – Trusting your inner wisdom(28:45) – The power of intention in leadership(29:00) – Drifting vs. intentionality in leadership(30:38) – Acceptance and cooperation(31:54) – Efficient use of energy(32:54) – Completion and creation(34:55) – GTD for teens(36:34) – Integration of wisdom
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
David Allen
Website:https://gettingthingsdone.com/
LinkedIn: https://nl.linkedin.com/company/david-allen-company
Book:https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0142000280
Andrew Cohn
Music:
In this thought-provoking episode of the Spirituality in Leadership podcast, host Andrew Cohn delves into key themes and insights from previous episodes, weaving together lessons on spirituality and leadership. With heartfelt gratitude for the diverse perspectives shared by past guests, Andrew explores the intersection of personal effectiveness, leadership impact, and the integration of spirituality into professional practice.
Andrew emphasizes the importance of aligning with personal values, embracing cultural awareness, and drawing inspiration from nature to cultivate resilience and creativity. Drawing on rich examples from his executive coaching experience, he offers reflective questions to inspire listeners to examine how their own experiences, values, and beliefs shape their leadership style and personal growth. This episode invites a deeper exploration of what it means to lead with purpose and authenticity.
Key Takeaways
Reflection on key themes from previous discussions about spirituality and leadership.
Importance of personal values in leadership.
Cultural awareness and its role in effective leadership.
Integration of spirituality into leadership practices.
The impact of nature on resilience and creativity.
Examples from executive coaching and team alignment work.
Diverse perspectives from various guests on meaningful work and relationships.
Encouragement for listeners to engage in self-reflection and personal growth.
The significance of authenticity and connection in leadership.
Practical application of discussed themes in real-world scenarios.
In This Episode:
(00:00:00) Introduction to individual reflection
(00:00:26) Gratitude for guests
(00:01:26) Discussion of guest topics
(00:02:45) Inspirational nature of conversations
(00:05:07) Quotes and themes of service
(00:06:23) Cultural awareness in leadership
(00:08:53) Nature's role in resilience
(00:10:22) Client work examples
(00:13:06) Team dynamics and values
(00:14:24) Practicality over buzzwords
(00:15:33) Reflective questions for leadership
(00:18:11) Conclusion and call to action
Resources and Links
Spirituality in Leadership Podcast
Andrew Cohn
Website: https://www.spiritualityinleadership.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcohnusa/
Music
Kodiak: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4rURKtnJr3jeHvZ0IVRQCe
Aikido is more than a martial art—it’s a way of navigating life’s challenges with grace and resilience. In this episode, Andrew Cohn speaks with his friend, colleague, and mentor, Chris Thorsen, a longtime practitioner of Aikido and its “off the mat” applications. Chris shares his powerful story, starting with his use of haiku as a tool for recovery after serving in the Vietnam War. This practice connected him with a Zen master who guided him for 30 years. Aikido, Chris explains, provided him the strength to thrive as a crisis counselor, even during years consulting with guards at San Quentin prison. Later, he introduced Aikido as a healing tool to a business leader and combat helicopter pilot processing trauma, sparking a transformative professional connection. Chris reflects on his journey as a “medic in the corporate world,” integrating Aikido and deep dialogue into leadership development and culture building. This conversation offers profound insights into the intersection of personal growth, leadership, and operational effectiveness.
In our increasingly disconnected world, recognizing our interconnectedness across cultures and in the workplace is more important than ever. In this episode of the podcast, Andrew Cohn speaks with Yoko Hisano, a clinical therapist and healer in the Boston area. Yoko shares her experience growing up in Japan and in Texas, working in human resources in Japan, and in higher education in the U.S. before moving into clinical therapy work. She talks about her experience across cultures, and about engaging people in important conversations that relate to connecting. The theme of interconnectedness comes through clearly in this conversation, which Yoko describes as a spiritual theme. In a very simple and clear way, she talks about aspiring to inspire people to connect to what brings them joy.