In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron talks with high school senior and disability advocate Alena Skinner, who shares her journey of inclusion through 4-H, adaptive horseback riding, and her own podcast, I Can Totally Do That. Alena opens up about her experiences with cerebral palsy, her leadership role in expanding disability access within 4-H, and her mission to amplify stories of people with disabilities in diverse careers. Together, they explore what real inclusion means—making people feel welcome, heard, and valued—and how small acts like saying “hi” can start meaningful change.
Key Takeaways:
Redefining Inclusion — True inclusion starts with making people feel wanted and welcome.
Accessible Leadership — Youth programs like 4-H can grow through intentional accessibility and education.
Adaptive Advocacy — Alena’s horseback riding accommodations show that inclusion benefits everyone.
Representation Matters — Her podcast highlights underrepresented professionals with disabilities.
Simple Inclusion Acts — Saying “hi” and showing patience can break barriers of fear and assumption.
Alena’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is making the person feel welcome and wanted.
Alena Skinner’s Bio:
On the I can totally do that podcast you will find engaging conversations with individuals with disabilities who have diverse careers. You will hear about their experiences as a person with a disability in their chosen career path. As a teen with cerebral palsy exploring career options, I hope this will inspire teens and adults with disabilities to learn about careers and possibly find their own passion.
Connect with Alena Skinner:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/icantotallydothat_
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573746184366
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@icantotallydothat
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3XjWiduXy5TNyCloZpSaix?si=fd373560d12e459a
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No - 86
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron sits down with Jeremy Neuheisel, a passionate advocate for disability inclusion, faith, and purpose. Jeremy shares his personal journey navigating life with a disability, his reflections on faith and scripture, and the challenges of transportation and access in his community. Together, they explore what true inclusion looks like—beyond accessibility—and how faith, resilience, and connection shape the way we show up for one another. This heartfelt conversation reminds listeners that inclusion begins with empathy, relationship, and recognizing that every person reflects the image of God in their own way.
Key Takeaways:
Faith and Disability – Jeremy’s faith anchors him through challenges and shapes his understanding of inclusion.
Accessible Transportation – Systemic barriers limit independence, but advocacy can drive change.
Purpose Through Service – Helping others doesn’t require money—just compassion and presence.
Scriptural Inclusion – Biblical stories reveal God’s care for all, including those with disabilities.
Everyday Connection – Inclusion starts with simple acts—like inviting someone for coffee.
Jeremy’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is trying to make things as close as possible so people can get to you and get to the activities that they want to get to.
Jeremy Neuheisel’s Bio:
At 31, Jeremy Neuheisel is passionate about disability theology and creating a more inclusive environment for people with disabilities in the church. Inspired by authors like Brian Brock, whose book 'Christian Disability and the Christian Tradition' has shaped his understanding of faith and inclusion, he seeks to make the church a welcoming place for all.
Through his volunteer work and experiences, he is learning to balance his desire to serve others with the need to prioritize his own well-being. He has come to realize that even activities like working out, which bring him joy and help him care for his body, can become an idol if he's not careful. As he continues on his faith journey, he is actively working on developing his skills as a street preacher. He believes that sharing his faith with others is an important part of his walk with God, and he's passionate about connecting with people from all walks of life.
Connect with Jeremy Neuheisel:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.neuheisel.3
Email: jern222@live.com
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron talks with author and advocate Hugh Flynn, whose memoir Something Special Be captures the journey of seeking conservatorship for his brother with a disability. Hugh shares powerful lessons from growing up in an inherently inclusive family, his views on “playing nice” as the foundation of inclusion, and the complex realities of conservatorship and family conflict. Through humor, honesty, and heart, Hugh reflects on authenticity, resilience, and the deep wisdom learned from his brothers. This episode invites listeners to rethink inclusion as something lived, not legislated.
Key Takeaways:
Play Nice Philosophy – Inclusion begins with how we treat each other in everyday life.
Family as Inclusion Lab – Growing up with siblings with disabilities shaped Hugh’s empathy and worldview.
Legal Lessons Learned – The conservatorship process revealed systemic gaps and family tensions.
Authenticity as Teacher – His brother Aaron modeled honesty and joy without pretense.
Read, Don’t Scroll – Hugh urges listeners to disconnect from negativity and learn through reading.
Hugh’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion means play nice.
Hugh Flynn’s Bio:
Hugh Flynn is a widely-published journalist and award-winning playwright. He has been a life-long advocate for the rights of underserved populations, especially people with disabilities. His searing memoir, SOMETHING SPECIAL BE, is the personal story of a gay man's attempt to become the conservator of his disabled brother, and the battles, betrayal, and shocking surprises he faced.
Connect with Hugh Flynn:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hughflynn24
Buy His Book: https://a.co/d/e7AnIbc
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron sits down with trans non-binary life and recovery coach, Elena Rangel, for an honest conversation about inclusion, authenticity, and self-compassion. Elena shares their journey of embracing identity, redefining success beyond perfectionism, and transforming neurodivergence into strength. Together, they explore how inclusion begins with acknowledging each person’s unique experience and why radical self-compassion is essential for building a more empathetic world. This episode invites listeners to challenge comfort zones, embrace imperfection, and expand what it means to truly “see” and honor one another in all our differences.
Key Takeaways:
Defining Inclusion – Inclusion means recognizing and honoring every person’s inherent worth and value.
Choosing Authenticity – Living truthfully can come with costs, but authenticity brings freedom and integrity.
Redefining Success – True success isn’t perfection—it’s showing up, experimenting, and creating with purpose.
Embracing Neurodivergence – Shifting how we relate to our brains transforms struggle into empowerment.
Practicing Self-Compassion – Radical self-compassion starts with acknowledging others’ different experiences.
Elena’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is when every person's inherent worth and value is acknowledged, honored and taken into account when creating a space or just operating in the world.
Elena Rangel’s Bio:
Elena Rangel is queer, trans, Life and Leadership Coach who specializes in supporting creatives and entrepreneurs achieve their next level of success.
Connect with Elena Rangel:
Website: https://www.elenarangelhealing.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elenarangel/
Substack: https://elenarangelhealing.substack.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-rangel-1aaa1a334/
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Current Guest:
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Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 59
No - 86
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with legally blind entrepreneur and inclusion advocate Eric Dingler to unpack what it really means to make digital and physical spaces accessible for all. Eric shares his journey from navigating life with ocular albinism to helping businesses embrace universal design—not out of fear of lawsuits, but as an act of being a good neighbor. Together, they explore “advocacy with grace,” digital accessibility, and how inclusion rooted in empathy benefits everyone. This conversation challenges listeners to make inclusion a mindset, not a mandate.
Key Takeaways:
Advocacy with Grace – True inclusion happens when advocacy is rooted in empathy, not entitlement.
Universal Design – Accessibility features benefit everyone, not just people with disabilities.
Beyond Compliance – Businesses should aim to include, not just avoid lawsuits.
Hidden Disabilities – Many disabilities are invisible, reminding us to assume inclusion always.
Local Impact – Change starts by creating disability advisory groups and engaging local businesses.
Eric’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is making reasonable efforts so that everyone can participate regardless of their ability level. It is also advocacy with grace versus advocacy from a perspective of entitlement.
Eric Dingler’s Bio:
Eric Dingler believes leadership is the single greatest factor in how far a business can grow. It’s about building a team you trust, a mission that matters, and the systems to support them both. He leads a fully remote team while traveling full-time with his wife and four teens, and helps small business owners lead better, market smarter, and create more accessible content through his digital marketing agency.
Connect with Eric Dingler:
Website: https://ericdingler.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdingler/
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Yes - 59
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Tracy King, CEO of InspirEd, to unpack the intersection of neurodiversity, inclusion, and leadership. Tracy shares their late-in-life AuDHD diagnosis and how that shaped both their parenting and professional journey. Together, they explore why neuroinclusion isn’t just compassionate—it’s a smart business strategy. From dismantling outdated norms to reimagining leadership programs that honor every brain, this conversation challenges listeners to design workplaces and learning environments where everyone truly belongs.
Key Takeaways:
Inclusion by Design – Accessibility should be inherent in design, not an afterthought or special request.
Norms Can Change – Society’s “norms” are constructed and can be re-created to include everyone.
Neuroinclusion = Innovation – Cognitive diversity strengthens creativity, innovation, and problem-solving in business.
Self-Advocacy Journey – Discovering one’s neurodivergence later in life can bring grief but also empowerment and self-acceptance.
Feedback as Growth – Inclusion thrives when feedback is reframed as learning rather than criticism.
Tracy’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion means everyone belongs. So let's co-create a world that works for everyone.
Tracy King’s Bio:
Tracy King is a trusted advisor to learning leaders seeking to build inclusive, high-performing, AI-enabled education programs. As CEO of InspirEd, Tracy partners with organizations to design scalable and impactful learning portfolios that drive engagement and measurable outcomes. With over 25 years in adult education, they specialize in neuroinclusive design and serve as Chair of the IACET Neuroinclusion in CE/T Research Group. Tracy is the author of the award-winning book Competitive Advantage and a contributor to Microlearning in the Digital Age. Their work has been featured in Forbes, USA Today, NBC, and more.
Connect with Tracy King:
Website: https://www.inspired-ed.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracykingceo/
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes James Early, host of The Bible Speaks to You podcast, to explore what it truly means to live with the mindset of Christ. James shares insights from his prison ministry and coaching program, highlighting the power of compassion, forgiveness, and seeing people beyond their labels. Together, they discuss how inclusion is rooted in love, how to embrace others’ backstories without judgment, and how living with the awareness of God’s kingdom transforms relationships. This heartfelt conversation invites listeners to strip away barriers and embrace the radical call to love.
Key Takeaways:
Inclusive mindset – Inclusion begins with stripping away labels and seeing everyone as a child of God.
Backstory matters – Understanding people’s histories builds compassion and reduces judgment.
Forgive yourself – Self-compassion creates space to extend compassion to others.
Mind of Christ – Adopting Jesus’ mindset means embracing love, humility, and presence.
Neighborly love – Everyone is our neighbor, deserving of dignity, care, and kindness.
James’ definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is loving everyone as my brother and sister.
James Early’s Bio:
James Early is a Bible teacher and helps people learn to think, pray, and love like Jesus. He gives talks and conducts workshops on the Bible to churches and groups, as well as online. Since 2008 his Bible study workshops at the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, CT have transformed hundreds of lives.
In fall of 2019, James started The Bible Speaks to You Podcast, which has had listeners in over 200 countries and territories, and focuses on getting back to the original Christianity of Jesus. Through his Jesus Mindset Coaching program, James helps people embrace the mindset of Jesus and rediscover their God-given ability to think and act more like Jesus. He lives in Bethel, CT with his wife of 34 years, Polly Castor. They have three grown children. He loves hiking and organic gardening.
Connect with James Early:
Website: https://thebiblespeakstoyou.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebiblespeakstoyou/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/james.early
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-early-499b6a5/
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No - 85
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Tera Ajeet, a coach, spiritual guide, and advocate born blind in the Netherlands. Together they explore the meaning of inclusion, reframing limitations as strengths, and the power of intuition in personal growth. Tera shares her experiences navigating school, travel, and daily life without sight, offering a perspective on how deep listening and presence create connection. The conversation highlights how yoga, coaching, and self-awareness open doors to empowerment. Listeners will leave with practical insights for asking better questions, honoring individual needs, and making inclusion a lived reality.
Key Takeaways:
Personal Definition of Inclusion – Inclusion means honoring individual ways of doing and being.
Reframing Limitations – Perceived barriers can become strengths when embraced as part of growth.
Power of Intuition – Intuition is not abstract; it’s a practical guide for daily choices and relationships.
Deep Listening – Replacing visual cues with tone, words, and presence creates profound connection.
Practical Inclusion Tip – Ask “What do you need?” instead of “How can I help?” to honor autonomy.
Tera’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is figuring out what works for you and accepting that what works for others may be different.
Tera Ajeet’s Bio:
I’m a blind storyteller and Angelic Kundalini coach who inspires others to awaken their inner truth. I guide listeners on a journey beyond the visible—where healing, intuition, and inspiration meet, expanding the light within ourselves and others.
Connect with Tera Ajeet:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tera__ajeet
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanne-brand/
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Yes - 57
No - 84
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes dyslexia researcher and advocate Russell Van Brocklen to share his journey from struggling with a first-grade reading level to transforming the way students with dyslexia learn. Russell explains how focusing on a child’s unique interests and shifting from articulation-first to word-analysis-first teaching can unlock dramatic growth in reading and writing. He also discusses practical strategies for parents, the importance of specific-to-general teaching, and how inclusion means ensuring dyslexic students thrive in typical classrooms. This conversation offers fresh hope and actionable tools for families, educators, and advocates.
Key Takeaways:
Strength-based focus – Building on a child’s passions drives motivation and learning.
Teaching sequence – Word analysis before articulation accelerates reading and writing progress.
Specific to general – Teaching from concrete details to broader concepts helps dyslexic learners thrive.
Parent empowerment – Parents can effectively support interventions at home with the right tools.
Redefining inclusion – True inclusion means moving students beyond “special ed” labels to exceeding grade level.
Russell’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is to stop taking dyslectic students like when I was a child and throwing us off into special education because we can't function in the normal classroom.
Russell Van Brocklen’s Bio:
Dyslexia touches as many as 15–20 % of all learners, yet most families still hear “wait and see.” I flip that script. As the Dyslexia Professor, I translate structured-literacy methods proven most effective for struggling readers into bite-size actions parents can use tonight. Your audience leaves knowing exactly why multisensory routines beat generic worksheets and how to start seeing progress before the next report card.
Connect with Russell Van Brocklen:
Website: https://dyslexiaclasses.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dyslexiaclassesus/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dyslexiaclasses/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russell-van-brocklen-2007ab87/
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes filmmaker and storyteller Nicola Rose to discuss her latest feature film, Magnetosphere, a coming-of-age story centered on a neurodivergent girl discovering she has synesthesia. Nicola shares her creative journey from early exposure to inclusion through theater, to writing and directing films that highlight neurodiversity. Together, they explore the meaning of inclusion, the underreported reality of synesthesia, and the role of empathy in building more inclusive communities. Listeners will gain insight into how film can raise awareness, spark connection, and encourage recognition of unseen experiences in everyday life.
Key Takeaways:
Synesthesia explained – Nicola breaks down what synesthesia is and why it’s often misunderstood or unnoticed.
Art and inclusion – Creative storytelling offers powerful ways to represent neurodiverse experiences.
Early exposure – Nicola’s childhood volunteering with visually impaired kids shaped her perspective on inclusion.
Empathy in practice – Imagining ourselves in others’ situations is a simple but vital step toward inclusion.
Representation matters – Films like Magnetosphere help people recognize and affirm their own or loved ones’ neurodivergence.
Nicola’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is being kind to people, good to people, whether or not they may seem to operate differently than you do.
Nicola Rose’s Bio:
Nicola Rose is the director and writer of MAGNETOSPHERE, a feature film about a neurodivergent girl with synesthesia, now available on VOD on many streaming platforms.
Connect with Nicola Rose:
Website: https://www.magnetospheremovie.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/magnetospheremovie/
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Yes
Current Guest:
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Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 57
No - 82
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Roxy B. Rocker, a disability advocate, entrepreneur, and media creator who has lived through decades of change in the disability rights movement. Roxy shares her journey of navigating life with multiple disabilities, building businesses on a shoestring budget, and creating accessible fashion and media that spotlight inclusion. From her definition of true inclusion to her call for society to be “disability curious,” this conversation challenges assumptions and offers practical ways to break barriers. Listeners will leave inspired to rethink accessibility, entrepreneurship, and everyday inclusion.
Key Takeaways:
Living History – Roxy has experienced landmark disability rights changes firsthand.
Entrepreneurial Spirit – She built multiple businesses with creativity and resilience.
Accessible Design – Clothing, products, and environments should work for everyone.
Disability Curious – Inclusion starts with asking questions and engaging openly.
Practical Inclusion – Invite, include, and listen to people with disabilities in daily life.
Roxy’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is having seats at the table where decisions are made and for those seats to be accessible so we can contribute meaningfully.
Roxy Rocker’s Bio:
Roxy Rocker is the founder of Embracing Disability and the Editor-in-Chief of the Embracing Disability Magazine. She’s a skilled massage therapist and coach, and has dedicated her life to helping others.
Connect with Roxy Rocker:
Website: https://embracing-disability.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/disabilityrox/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/embracingdisability/
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Current Guest:
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Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 57
No - 81
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with sexuality educator Amy Lang to explore how parents can approach conversations about bodies, relationships, and sexuality—especially with neurodivergent children. Amy shares her decades of experience helping families move past discomfort to build openness, safety, and trust. Together, they discuss starting conversations early, navigating puberty, addressing myths about neurodivergence and sexuality, and creating inclusive spaces where children feel respected and understood. This episode is filled with practical tools, honest reflections, and a reminder that inclusion starts at home—with every conversation we’re willing to have.
Key Takeaways:
Early Conversations – Start age-appropriate sex education around age five to establish openness and trust.
Neurodivergent Needs – Tailor communication styles to different learning and sensory needs, not just words.
Parental Influence – Parents are the most influential factor in shaping kids’ healthy sexual development.
Protective Education – Clear, ongoing conversations about bodies and boundaries reduce vulnerability to abuse.
Inclusive Mindset – Assume diversity in gender and sexuality from the start to support every child fully.
Amy’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is taking a minute and thinking through "Is what I'm talking about going to work for everybody or do I need to change my approach?."
Amy Lang’s Bio:
Amy Lang, M.A., is a sexuality and parent educator as well as a sexual abuse prevention specialist. She also has a certification in neurodiversity and sexuality and helps parents of neurodivergent kids openly communicate with them about sexuality and relationships. She lives in Seattle, WA, with her first (and favorite) husband, and they’re the proud parents of a delightful, fully launched son. Learn more about her work at BirdsAndBeesAndKids.com and BBKPros.com.
Connect with Amy Lang:
Website: https://birdsandbeesandkids.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/birdsbeeskids/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/birdsbeeskids
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amylang/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@birdsandbeesandkids
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No - 80
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Seth Besse, CEO of Undivided.io, to explore how technology, advocacy, and lived experience can transform support for families raising children with disabilities. Seth shares his personal journey with ADHD and dyslexia, the challenges parents face navigating complex systems, and how Undivided.io equips caregivers with clear roadmaps, resources, and guidance to unlock vital benefits. Together, they discuss bridging gaps in knowledge, breaking down systemic barriers, and why spreading information is one of the most powerful tools for inclusion. This conversation highlights innovation, empowerment, and practical steps forward.
Key Takeaways:
Personal Journey – Seth shares his experience with ADHD and dyslexia and how it shaped his advocacy.
Parent Roadmaps – Undivided.io provides step-by-step guidance for families to access benefits and services.
Systemic Barriers – Parents often face fragmented systems and misinformation when seeking support.
Empowered Caregivers – Navigators with lived experience partner with families to simplify complex processes.
Knowledge Sharing – Inclusion grows when parents spread resources and insights within their communities.
Seth’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is about creating a more diverse world by including people with disabilities, parents and caregivers in everything.
Seth Besse’s Bio:
I grew up with ADHD and dyslexia long before I understood what those labels meant. In school, I was the kid who froze when it was my turn to read aloud—counting paragraphs ahead, practicing the same few sentences over and over, only to find out the teacher had moved on or called on someone else. It was mortifying, and I carry a deep sense of imposter syndrome and self-doubt to this day.
Over time, I began to see my own way of thinking as a strength rather than a deficit. My brain approaches problems differently—making connections others might miss and finding creative paths through complexity. In my career, I’ve taken on entrenched systems, bringing transparency, efficiency, and data-driven decision-making to industries that desperately needed it.
Now, as CEO of Undivided.io, I’m honored to channel that same drive into something deeply personal: building a platform that supports families in allowing the diverse ways kids learn and think to be supported, building a stronger, better, and more resilient community. Undivided transforms how parents navigate IEPs, insurance, public benefits, and more—empowering them to thrive with neurodivergence, not in spite of it. I believe that when we empower diverse minds, everyone wins.
Connect with Seth Besse:
Website: https://undivided.io/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/undividedapp/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/undividedapp
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethbesse/
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No - 80
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Robert “B-Cide” Cardillo II, a rapper, author, and entrepreneur whose journey through music and life was reshaped by his multiple sclerosis diagnosis. Robert opens up about his early years in hip-hop, his battles with health setbacks, and how positivity, creativity, and community have fueled his resilience. He shares the inspiration behind his memoir Myelin My Shoes and the importance of storytelling as therapy. Listeners will be inspired by his perspective on inclusion, perseverance, and the power of treating everyone with dignity and respect.
Key Takeaways:
Creative beginnings – Robert’s rap career started in high school and grew into a lifelong passion.
Life with MS – His diagnosis changed his path, but not his drive to create and perform.
Positivity shift – With encouragement from his mother, he learned to reframe challenges with gratitude.
55 Strong vision – His brand became a symbol of strength, resilience, and community.
Inclusive mindset – True inclusion means treating everyone with dignity, regardless of visible or invisible disabilities.
Robert’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is treating everybody the way you want to be treated.
Robert “B-Cide” Cardillo II’s Bio:
Robert “B-Cide” Cardillo II is a rapper, producer, and author who’s spent over 25 years in the underground music scene. After being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2011, he pivoted into entrepreneurship, launching a streetwear brand and releasing his memoir Myelin My Shoes. Through music, storytelling, and resilience, he’s built a platform that inspires others living with chronic illness and disability to keep pushing forward.
Connect with Robert “B-Cide” Cardillo II:
Website: https://b-cide.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bcide
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bcide
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bcide/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Btvstudio
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bcide
Buy His Book: https://a.co/d/8HcSNyN
SPAM© Count:
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Yes
Current Guest:
No
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 55
No - 80
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Blake Baumann and Pickens Calhoun for a powerful conversation on neurodiversity, parenting, and inclusion. Blake shares his journey of being diagnosed with autism later in life after his son’s diagnosis, and how that experience inspired him to create ASPIE-R Autism Coaching and the Autism Independence Academy. Together, Blake and Pickens discuss strategies for building confidence, creating structure at home, supporting young adults toward independence, and reframing neurodiversity as a strength. Parents and educators will walk away with practical insights, hopeful stories, and tools to better support neurodivergent youth.
Key Takeaways:
Redefining Inclusion – True inclusion means belonging, acceptance, and maximizing individual strengths.
Structure Matters – Consistency and routines help neurodivergent children build independence and confidence.
Confidence Building – Celebrating small victories and encouraging self-expression fuels growth.
Parental Support – Parents play a key role in guiding without rescuing, helping children navigate life skills.
Career Preparation – Volunteering, resume strategies, and openness to new job markets prepare youth for independence.
Blake’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is about making sure people feel like they belong and accepting everyone.
Picken’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is bringing everyone in and maximizing everyone's strengths and skills.
Blake Baumann’s Bio:
Hello, my name is Blake Baumann and I specialize in helping people with Asperger’s and high functioning autism to unleash their genius and excel at managing the world around them so that they can live an exceptional life.
Asperger’s came into my life at age 36 when my mini-me, my son, was diagnosed with it. The medical paperwork called it Asperger’s Syndrome (now known as Autism Spectrum Disorder) and after doing extensive research, understanding the symptoms, I knew the undeniable, I had it as well.
For several years I denied it, not only for myself but also for my son. I even made sure my son’s school didn’t receive the diagnosis because I didn’t want my son treated any differently from other children because I knew the world wouldn’t. My wife, who worked in education and is the original one who pointed out that my son and I both had Asperger’s, tried bringing up the conversation several times after the official diagnosis to which I would quickly shut her down. The truth is I thought it would make me less of a person.
I had worked extremely hard to overcome the many challenges that I faced in childhood and as an adult from social anxiety, communication awkwardness, sensory issues, and developing relationships to be an executive leader, speaker, husband, and father. Over the next few years with the help of my incredible wife, I was able to see all the things I achieved as a pathway to help other people with Asperger’s.
Through ASPIE-R Coaching, it’s my mission to help you and your loved ones to embrace and recognize what Asperger’s is…not a syndrome or disorder but a gift. Let me help you unleash your gift to live a truly exceptional life.
Connect with Blake and Pickens:
Autism Independence Academy: https://aia-launch.com/
ASPIE-R Coaching: https://www.aspie-r.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ASPIERCOACH
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
Yes
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 55
No - 79
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron speaks with Brooke Garren, an autistic, ADHD, and dyslexic licensed clinical social worker and founder of Uniquely You Behavioral Health and Affirming Minds Coaching and Consulting. Brooke shares how her lived experience shapes her work in creating neurodivergent affirming therapy, workplaces, and communities. She discusses the importance of moving beyond awareness into true inclusion, removing barriers to authenticity, and supporting individuals without pathologizing differences. Together, they explore practical ways leaders, parents, and organizations can honor neurodivergence, reduce stigma, and foster cultures where people thrive as their authentic selves.
Key Takeaways:
Defining Inclusion – Inclusion means removing barriers so people can show up authentically without judgment or expectation.
Masking Explained – Masking becomes harmful when individuals can’t remove it, leading to exhaustion and burnout.
Neurodivergent Affirming Care – Supporting natural variations of brains and behaviors, not pathologizing them.
Family-Centered Approach – True accessibility means supporting entire families, not just the identified client.
Curiosity Over Judgment – Inclusion starts with curiosity about others’ lived experiences instead of assumptions.
Brooke Garren’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is creating spaces where people are able to be supported without having to mask.
Brooke Garren’s Bio:
Brooke Garren, LCSW (she/her) is the founder and CEO of Uniquely You Behavioral Health and Affirming Minds Coaching & Consulting. An autistic ADHDer and Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Brooke specializes in neurodiversity-affirming care for children, teens, and families. She’s passionate about dismantling barriers to mental health care and helping parents reframe their understanding of behavior through a developmental and strengths-based lens. Brooke brings both professional expertise and lived experience to conversations about parenting, identity, and inclusive systems of care.
Connect with Brooke Garren:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/uniquely_you_behavioral_health/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Uniquelyyoubh/
Website: https://uniquelyyoubehavioralhealth.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brooke-garren/
Instagram - Affirming Minds Coaching: https://www.instagram.com/affirmingmindscoaching
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
No
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 54
No - 79
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Kendra Gottsleben, a rare disease and disability advocate, to explore what true inclusion looks like in practice. Kendra shares her journey with Mucopolysaccharidosis (MPS), her role as founder of Rare by Design, and how representation and accessibility can transform communities. From film festivals to inclusive fashion shows, she highlights innovative ways to elevate voices often left out of conversations. Together, AAron and Kendra discuss why creating spaces where people with disabilities and rare diseases are present at decision-making tables is essential for lasting change.
Key Takeaways:
Lived Experience Matters – Inclusion requires people with disabilities and rare diseases at decision-making tables.
Representation in Action – Events like film festivals and fashion shows can normalize authentic diversity.
Everyday Accessibility – Small changes at venues can create lasting impact for families.
Parent & Family Voice – Parents and siblings also play a vital role in advocacy.
Disability is Universal – With age or circumstance, most people will experience disability in their lifetime.
Kendra Gottsleben’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is having people with disabilities and rare diseases at the tables where decisions are being made so they can help guide and give their input on how to make it more accessible.
Kendra Gottsleben’s Bio:
Kendra Gottsleben, Founder & Executive Director of Rare by Design, Disability and Rare Disease Advocate, Marketing Specialist at USD Center for Disabilities
Kendra is the marketing communication specialist at the Center for Disabilities at the University of South Dakota Sanford School of Medicine in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. She is an author and spokesperson on living a life with a rare disease and disability. Kendra is the founder and executive director of the nonprofit organization, Rare by Design. She is an Augustana University graduate with a double major in Sociology and Psychology. Her career blends the two worlds in which she grew up: medicine and education. Kendra’s memberships on numerous boards, advisory groups and professional societies keeps her actively engaged locally, state-wide and nationally.
She has defined her life by a positive outlook and success in overcoming obstacles. Kendra refuses to be defined by Mucopolysaccharidosis (MPS)—the rare genetic condition she has had since birth. Kendra enjoys a stylish outfit and shoes to match as she strives to make a difference. One of her favorite colors is yellow which embodies her life motto: When life hands you lemons, make the BEST lemonade possible!
Connect with Kendra Gottsleben:
Personal Website: https://www.kendragottsleben.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rarebydesign/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RareByDesign#
Website: https://www.rarebydesign.org/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@rarebydesign
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
Yes
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 54
No - 78
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes author and coach Ellen Busch for a powerful conversation on resilience, identity, and inclusion. Ellen shares her journey with dyslexia, the barriers she faced in education, and the deep trauma that shaped her path. She reflects on breaking free from societal labels, surviving abuse, and embracing healing through therapy, spirituality, and self-discovery. Together, AAron and Ellen explore what it truly means to honor someone’s humanity, the importance of empathy, and how inclusion begins with small, everyday actions that uplift and respect the uniqueness of each individual.
Key Takeaways:
Challenging Labels – Ellen reveals how early assumptions about dyslexia impacted her identity and self-worth.
Healing Journey – From trauma therapy to CrossFit, Ellen describes how healing can become self-discovery.
Hero’s Journey – Writing her memoir became a way to reclaim her voice and empower others.
Redefining Inclusion – Inclusion means acceptance, respect, and recognizing individual greatness.
Everyday Empathy – Small gestures of kindness create safer, more inclusive spaces for everyone.
Ellen Busch’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is about acceptance, accepting who somebody is for all of their individual greatness. But it's also about respect and honoring their humanity and just seeing them for who they are.
Ellen Busch’s Bio:
Ellen Busch grew up in a loving home—but even love couldn’t protect her from the invisible wounds of trauma. Years later, she found herself with no job, no home, no relationship, and no hope of building the life she once dreamed of. Though she had broken free from an abusive marriage, she was still shackled by the pain of unhealed trauma and the lifelong stigma of dyslexia. It wasn’t until a moment of clarity on a crowded highway that she realized healing wasn’t just necessary—it was possible.
In her memoir, (dis)Empowered, Ellen shares how she began the brave and deliberate journey of healing. With the support of skilled therapists, transformative coaches, and through intense physical and mental training alongside U.S. Navy SEALs, she rebuilt her strength from the inside out. These experiences challenged her limits and reconnected her with the power, purpose, and resilience that had always been within her.
Today, Ellen is a certified life coach, using her hard-won wisdom and lived experience to walk alongside others as they begin their own healing journeys. She helps clients break through limiting beliefs, reclaim their voices, and move from merely surviving to fully thriving. Her story is a testament to what becomes possible when we do the work, face the pain, and step boldly into the life we were meant to live.
Connect with Ellen Busch:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ellenbusch1500/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-busch/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ellen.busch.2025/
Website: https://www.ellenbusch.com/
Buy Her Book: https://a.co/d/6G1g7c3
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
No
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 53
No - 78
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron sits down with Dr. Robin Harwick, founder and director of The Pearl Remote Democratic High School. Together, they dive into what true inclusion looks like in schools and society, the power of democratic learning environments, and how trauma-informed practices can transform education. Dr. Harwick shares how giving students voice, choice, and community care fosters growth, autonomy, and healing. Listeners will gain insights into bridging the gap between research and practice, redefining “rules” in schools, and creating cultures where every student—regardless of ability or background—can thrive and belong.
Key Takeaways:
Inclusive culture – True inclusion means everyone belongs, not just accommodations for a few.
Democratic learning – Students thrive when given voice, choice, and ownership in their education.
Trauma awareness – Trauma often mimics disability; safe, choice-driven environments foster healing.
Relationships matter – Listening and building trust unlock student potential more than rigid systems.
Practical inclusion – Ask, don’t assume; small acts of care create lasting inclusive communities.
Dr. Robin Harwick’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion means everyone is welcome.
Dr. Robin Harwick’s Bio:
Dr. Robin Harwick is an educator, researcher, and writer committed to creating liberatory educational spaces for young people who have been pushed out of traditional systems. After nearly a decade of searching for a democratic learning environment for her son, he challenged her to start one—and The Pearl Remote Democratic High School was born. As founder and director, Dr. Harwick leads from a place of compassion and created a school rooted in equity, youth voice, and community, serving students worldwide who deserve a safe place to learn, grow, and heal.
Her career spans work in education, child welfare, and substance use, with over 25 years of experience on academic, governmental, tribal, and private research teams. She has also served directly with children and families as a parent educator, home visitor, and therapeutic foster parent. Her scholarship and creative work explore the transition to adulthood, trauma, and systems change. She has been published in peer-reviewed journals, blogs, zines, and anthologies. She is also the author of My Sorrow. Mi Libertad, a novel about a teen preparing to age out of foster care.
Connect with Dr. Robin Harwick:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_pearl_high_school/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/harwickr/
Substack: https://substack.com/@drharwick
Website: https://thepearlhighschool.org/
Email: doctorharwick@theprolehighschool.org
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
Yes
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 53
No - 77
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In this episode of The Inclusive Dad Podcast, host AAron sits down with Lyubim Kogan, former Olympic ski jumper, 9/11 survivor, and founder of Wings for Heroes. Lyubim shares his powerful journey from growing up in the Soviet Union to building a life in the United States, where inclusion became a defining theme. He reflects on resilience, the importance of community, and how adventure sports like paragliding can transform the lives of veterans and people with disabilities. This conversation dives deep into what it means to keep promises, push past fear, and create true belonging for those often left out.
Key Takeaways:
Early Inclusion – Lyubim felt welcomed in the U.S. through skiing, shaping his lifelong view of belonging.
Resilience in Adversity – From surviving 9/11 to Olympic training, perseverance defined his journey.
Redefining Strength – Adaptive sports like paragliding level the playing field for people with disabilities.
Honoring Veterans – Wings for Heroes fills the gap for amputees and veterans excluded from systems.
Practical Inclusion – True inclusion starts with empathy and simple daily acts of support.
Lyubim Kogan’s definition of inclusion:
Inclusion is the opposite of exclusion. It's about not buying into the ideas and structures that exclude people.
Lyubim Kogan’s Bio:
Our guest today is Lyubim (pronounced Loo-beem) Kogan — a five-time first-generation immigrant, Winter Olympian, NYU Stern graduate, 9/11 survivor, and founder of Wings4Heroes.org, a mission helping amputee veterans reclaim dignity, purpose, and joy through paragliding and adventure.
His journey spans Wall Street trading desks, kitchen tables across Main Street America, crisis leadership in war zones, and humanitarian missions across continents. He’s a national bestselling co-author with Steve Forbes and has shared the stage at the United Nations with Brian Tracy.
Connect with Lyubim Kogan:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wings4heroes
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wings4heroes
Website: https://wings4heroes.org/
SPAM© Count:
Host:
Yes
Current Guest:
No
Cumulative Guest Stats:
Yes - 52
No - 77
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