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All The Hats
Optise
11 episodes
18 hours ago
All the Hats is the podcast for B2B marketers on small teams. You write the copy, manage the CMS, run the ads, and fix allllll the dang forms. Hosted by Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei, we talk positioning, UX, content, SEO, and all the stuff you’re somehow supposed to master (without losing your mind). If you're a B2B marketer running lean, moving fast, and juggling everything from strategy to screenshots...you just found your people.
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All the Hats is the podcast for B2B marketers on small teams. You write the copy, manage the CMS, run the ads, and fix allllll the dang forms. Hosted by Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei, we talk positioning, UX, content, SEO, and all the stuff you’re somehow supposed to master (without losing your mind). If you're a B2B marketer running lean, moving fast, and juggling everything from strategy to screenshots...you just found your people.
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Episodes (11/11)
All The Hats
Why No One’s Finding Your Content Anymore
SEO isn’t dead. It’s just changing. 
In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei dig into the new wave of acronyms that are reshaping how people find your brand online: SEO, AEO, GEO, and whatever comes next. With AI tools like ChatGPT and Gemini changing how people search, the question is no longer how to rank on Google, but how to stay visible at all.
Ómar and Alicja explain what these changes mean for small B2B marketing teams, where to focus your effort, and how to keep your brand discoverable as search evolves. From Reddit strategies to FAQ updates and backlinks that still matter, this conversation is full of practical advice for anyone trying to stay ahead.
In this episode:
  • What SEO, AEO, and GEO actually mean and why they matter
  • How AI tools are changing buyer search behavior
  • Why backlinks, Reddit, and FAQs might be your best assets
  • How small teams can compete with big brands in AI-driven search
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18 hours ago
24 minutes

All The Hats
Marketing Campaigns that Shouldn’t Have Worked…But Did
Most small B2B marketing teams are working with the same problem: too little budget, too many expectations, and a playbook that feels stuck in 2015. White papers, gated content, and “just run some Google Ads” don’t cut it anymore.
In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei swap stories of campaigns that flopped, campaigns that surprised them, and the new tactics B2B marketers are testing in 2025 to actually break through the noise. From influencer-driven LinkedIn posts to gorilla marketing stunts (yes, even Times Square billboards and pizza box campaigns), they dig into what is worth trying, what is not, and how to stretch a small budget without wasting it.
Creative beats expensive every time, and sometimes the scrappiest campaigns bring the biggest results.
In this episode:
  • Why the “2015 playbook” for B2B campaigns no longer works
  • Campaigns that flopped vs. campaigns that unexpectedly performed
  • How influencer marketing and thought leadership are reshaping B2B demand gen
  • Why knowing your audience matters more than your ad spend
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2 weeks ago
37 minutes

All The Hats
Why Your ICP Might Be Wrong
If you don’t fix your target, you miss everything.
In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei sit down with Peep Laja, founder of Wynter, to unpack why positioning fails when you’re guessing, why A/B testing isn’t built for most B2B teams, and how message-market fit matters just as much as product-market fit.

They dive into pivots, micro-optimizations, and the uncomfortable truth that your homepage copy is often the real conversion bottleneck—not your design. No fluff. No jargon. Just sharp insights on what makes messaging resonate and how to defend research spend when the C-suite asks, “Do we really need this?”
Because great marketing doesn’t start with campaigns. It starts with clarity.

In this episode:
  • Why most “pivots” are actually positioning shifts
  • How to validate messaging without enough traffic for A/B tests
  • The three categories of friction killing your copy
  • What works in B2B go-to-market today (and what’s just noise)
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4 weeks ago
53 minutes

All The Hats
Why No One Gets What You Do
If your homepage doesn’t tell the story, your positioning won’t stick.
In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei sit down with Anthony Pierri of Fletch to dig into why so many B2B startups stumble when it comes to messaging. Founders love strategy decks and category conversations—but if the positioning never makes it onto the homepage, the market never sees it.
Anthony shares how forcing hard choices, narrowing your ICP, and putting your stake in the ground on the homepage creates clarity that cascades through the entire company. From anchors and headlines to problem sections that don’t make your BS meter go off, this conversation gets into the real work of messaging that cuts through noise.
Because clever doesn’t convert—clarity does.
In this episode:
  • Why homepage copy is the ultimate forcing function for positioning
  • The two “existential crises” founders face when narrowing their ICP
  • The three types of positioning anchors (and how to use them)
  • How to balance value promises vs. feature credibility without overhyping
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1 month ago
51 minutes

All The Hats
How Small Marketing Teams Do Customer Research
If you’re not doing customer research, it shows.

In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei break down why most small marketing teams are flying blind: guessing at pain points, rewriting landing pages in a vacuum, and building messaging around features instead of feelings.


They break down how small teams can stop overthinking research and start learning from the conversations already happening around them — in sales calls, support tickets, social threads, and yes, even LinkedIn DMs. No scripts. No dashboards. Just real voices, real language, and real insight hiding in plain sight. 


Because your best copy? Your customers already said it. You just haven’t heard it yet.


In this episode:
  • Why small teams avoid customer interviews (and how to stop)
  • How to ask questions that surface real pain, not polite answers
  • Where to find messaging gold if you can’t get on a call
  • How to tell signal from noise in customer feedback
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1 month ago
32 minutes

All The Hats
The Problem Isn't Your Website Design
That redesign isn’t fixing your problem. It’s hiding it.

In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei unpack one of the most expensive distractions in B2B marketing: the full website redesign. From outdated CMSes and dev bottlenecks to messaging that just doesn’t land, they explore why conversions are flat and why your new hex codes won’t save you.

You’ll hear what actually drives performance on a website, how to avoid wasting months on the wrong fixes, and how small teams can take back control. Because if you’re not fixing the strategy, you’re just rearranging pixels.

In this episode:
  • Why most redesigns are solving the wrong problem
  • The real reasons your website isn’t converting
  • What marketers need to control to make progress
  • How to improve your site without starting from scratch

TIME CODES
  • 00:00 - Introduction: Why Everyone Has an Opinion on the Website
  • 00:13 - The Dream of Product-Led Growth in B2B
  • 00:25 - Backend Developers: Unexpected Website Gatekeepers
  • 00:49 - Meet the Hosts: Omar, Alicia, and Dino
  • 01:05 - Coffee Chat: Marketers and Caffeine Habits
  • 01:56 - Episode Topic: Do You Really Need a Website Refresh?
  • 02:34 - B2B Websites: The #1 Sales Channel
  • 03:17 - Website as the Hub: Messaging, Brand, SEO & More
  • 03:33 - Case Study: Brand and Website Refresh Triggers
  • 04:21 - Common Misconceptions: Is Color Causing Low Sales?
  • 05:13 - How Most Companies Approach Website Projects
  • 05:44 - The Problem with Developer-Owned Websites
  • 06:36 - Ignoring SEO Value in Site Overhauls
  • 06:57 - Why Continuous Optimization Beats Total Redesigns
  • 08:00 - Legacy Systems: Can You Refresh Without Rebuilding?
  • 08:50 - Why Marketing Teams Need Website Ownership
  • 09:44 - Brand Refresh vs. Website Redesign: What Matters Most?
  • 11:14 - Why Website Changes Should Be Based on Analytics
  • 12:30 - Your Website: The Ultimate 24/7 Salesperson
  • 13:24 - What Should You Update First? Analytics Over Aesthetics
  • 14:45 - Website User Experience: Common Mistakes to Avoid
  • 15:17 - Maintaining Your Website as the Face of Your Business
  • 16:44 - Unlocking Control: Choosing the Right CMS for Marketers
  • 18:11 - Pros and Cons: Framer, Prismic, Squarespace, and More
  • 19:03 - Should Marketing Be Measured on Leads or Revenue?
  • 20:22 - The Sales and Marketing Handoff: Collaboration & Challenges
  • 22:02 - Product-Led Growth: Eliminating Traditional Sales Channels
  • 22:42 - Heroes or Headaches: B2B Website Audits Segment
  • 23:19 - Barnum Financial Group: Messaging and Design Critique
  • 25:53 - Staples: Business Supply Website Breakdown
  • 27:04 - New SEO Trends: AEO and Website Optimization
  • 28:08 - Recruit CRM: Chat About Cookie Bars and B2B Design
  • 30:27 - India Mart: The B2B Website That’s a Nightmare?
  • 32:35 - Stripe: The Gold Standard for SaaS and B2B Websites
  • 35:07 - Website Budget: How Much Do Top Sites Really Cost?
  • 37:45 - Pro Tip: Analyze Any Website’s Tech Stack with Wappalyzer
  • 38:59 - What Marketers Should Do Instead of a Website Refresh
  • 40:21 - First Steps for New Marketers: Gaining Website Control
  • 41:00 - Next Episode Preview & Sign-Off
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2 months ago
41 minutes

All The Hats
A/B Testing Is a Waste of Time in B2B
If you’ve ever been asked to A/B test a page with 37 visits, this one’s for you.

In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei dismantle one of the most overhyped practices in B2B marketing: A/B testing. From statistical illusions to traffic volume myths, they walk through why the math just doesn’t work for most small teams — and what to do instead.

This episode cuts through the performative testing mindset and gets to what actually works when you’re trying to move the needle with limited data and limited time.In this episode:
  • Why most B2B A/B tests are doomed from the start
  • The minimum data you actually need for statistical significance
  • What to do instead when you're testing messaging, landing pages, or campaigns
  • How to talk about this with stakeholders who are obsessed with “running a test”
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2 months ago
26 minutes

All The Hats
The Best Tech Stack for Small Marketing Teams
Most marketing stacks aren’t designed. They just happen.In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei take a hard look at how small teams end up buried in tools they never chose. From inherited platforms and overlapping features to chaotic documentation (or none at all), they share how to clean house and rebuild a stack that actually works.It’s part strategy session, part stack intervention, and a reminder that doing less with the right tools beats doing everything with the wrong ones.In this episode:
  • What a small team actually needs in its stack
  • How to fix a 12-tool setup in one week
  • Signs you’re overbuilt and what to do about it
  • Why tool choice is really a workflow decision
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3 months ago
34 minutes

All The Hats
What Buyers Actually Need from Your Website
If your homepage tries to say everything to everyone, chances are it’s saying nothing to anyone.

In this episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei tackle one of the most critical—and misunderstood—elements of B2B marketing: website messaging. Drawing from years of experience and recent work with positioning experts, they unpack the real reason most B2B sites fail to convert. It’s not your product. It’s not your pricing. It’s how you’re talking about it.

From avoiding jargon traps to defining a clear point of view, this episode delivers expert guidance and a candid look at what’s holding most B2B sites back—and a reminder that saying less (with clarity) will always get you further than trying to say it all.

In this episode:
  • Why most marketers are building websites for their CEO (not their customer)
  • The simple messaging mistake that’s killing your conversions
  • What to learn from Basecamp vs Asana’s radically different homepages
  • A practical method to uncover your true positioning voice
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3 months ago
52 minutes

All The Hats
The REAL Job Description of a Marketer on a Small Team
If your job feels like a never-ending list of tasks with unclear goals and shifting expectations, you're not alone.

In this first episode of All the Hats, Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei talk about what it’s really like to be a marketer on a small team. They swap stories from their own careers, react to a viral Reddit post about unrealistic workloads, and make the case for why saying no is sometimes the smartest move you can make. It’s part vent session, part strategy chat, and a reminder that doing everything isn’t the same as doing the right things.

In this episode:
  • The hidden cost of wearing too many hats
  • What to do when your job description expands beyond recognition
  • How to figure out what’s actually moving the needle (and what to let go of)
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4 months ago
52 minutes

All The Hats
Welcome to All The Hats!
All the Hats is the podcast for B2B marketers on small teams. You write the copy, manage the CMS, run the ads, and fix allllll the dang forms. Hosted by Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei, we talk positioning, UX, content, SEO, and all the stuff you’re somehow supposed to master (without losing your mind). If you're a B2B marketer running lean, moving fast, and juggling everything from strategy to screenshots...you just found your people.
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4 months ago
1 minute

All The Hats
All the Hats is the podcast for B2B marketers on small teams. You write the copy, manage the CMS, run the ads, and fix allllll the dang forms. Hosted by Ómar Thor Ómarsson and Alicja Lei, we talk positioning, UX, content, SEO, and all the stuff you’re somehow supposed to master (without losing your mind). If you're a B2B marketer running lean, moving fast, and juggling everything from strategy to screenshots...you just found your people.