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Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Conor Whelan
20 episodes
6 days ago
Jiu-jitsu isn’t just for the young — it’s for anyone willing to step on the mats. I’m Conor Whelan, and each week I talk with fellow BJJ practitioners about what it’s really like to train as adults. From dads discovering jiu-jitsu in their 40s to black belts competing at the highest level, we share stories of aches, breakthroughs, and everything in between. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance training, family, and life while still chasing growth on the mats, this podcast is for you.
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Jiu-jitsu isn’t just for the young — it’s for anyone willing to step on the mats. I’m Conor Whelan, and each week I talk with fellow BJJ practitioners about what it’s really like to train as adults. From dads discovering jiu-jitsu in their 40s to black belts competing at the highest level, we share stories of aches, breakthroughs, and everything in between. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance training, family, and life while still chasing growth on the mats, this podcast is for you.
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Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Oilfield Grit Meets the Mats: Breaking a Leg in Class #4

In this episode, I sit down with a friend whose jiu-jitsu journey thus far is unforgettable. Originally from Andrews, Texas, a Texas Tech grad now living in Midland, he works as an engineer in the oil business — but decided to give BJJ a try a little over a year ago. After just four classes, disaster struck: he broke his leg in three places during training. What followed was over a year of recovery, reflection, and a deeper appreciation for the mental side of the art. We talk about how jiu-jitsu is like chess — cerebral, uncomfortable, and yet deeply satisfying — and how the lessons of the mats go far beyond technique. Now, after a year and a half away, he’s finally ready to return to training. This is a story about resilience, mindset, and why sometimes the hardest battles are the ones fought in our own heads.

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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes 51 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Leveling Up – Blue Belts, Takedowns, and World Travels with Mark Tran

In this episode of Rolling Over 40, I’m joined by my friend and training partner, the newly minted blue belt, Mark Tran! 🎉 We dive into what it’s really like making the jump to blue belt—how the game changes, the mindset shifts, and the surprising challenges that come with wearing that new belt color on the mat.

But Mark’s story doesn’t stop there. When he’s not rolling, he’s a globe-trotting software engineer whose journey began in Asia and stretched through Europe and Latin America over four unforgettable years. From Minnesota to New York, Vancouver to SoCal, we talk about how travel has shaped his perspective—and when exactly did jujitsu enter the picture?!

Oh, and did I mention he’s leveling up his takedown game with judo classes? 🥋 Whether you're deep into your own jujitsu journey or just love a good story about passion, travel, and personal growth, this episode has something for you.

Tune in and enjoy the roll!

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3 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 13 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Grip, Trip, and Submit: A Judoka’s Journey into Jujitsu with Jason Wei

In this episode of Rolling Over 40, I'm joined by my training partner, Jason Wei. Jason is a 3-stripe white belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with a diverse background in martial arts, including Wing Chun Kung Fu, Taekwondo, and Judo.

We dive into Jason’s life journey as he moved between China, Canada, and the U.S., exploring how his experiences shaped his approach to martial arts. Judo plays a major role in our conversation, as it's the primary discipline he practices outside of BJJ.

From ear guards to guard pulls, this episode offers insights, laughs, and something for every martial arts enthusiast to enjoy.

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4 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes 31 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Riffs and Rolling: A Musician’s Jiu Jitsu Journey with Luis “Slim” Cervantes

In this episode I am joined by another training partner of mine and fellow one-stripe white belt, Mr. Luis Cervantes, better known as Slim. Slim and I have been training together for over a year now and I have yet to make him tap, although he has made me tap many times!

Slim has one of the most unique training styles in that although he has a home gym, he makes a habit of exploring gyms not just locally, but all over the world. In fact, when he was in Spain recently to play a concert with his band, he trained at two different gyms!

You can find Slim performing at local, national, and international venues as a guitarist in FIVE different bands. Follow him on Instagram at lou_ferns!

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4 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes 20 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Rolling until it Hurt Too Much with Blue Belt Russell Melmed

In this episode I am joined by blue belt and former Jiu Jitsu practitioner Russell Melmed. Russell is a 4-stripe blue belt who no longer trains as a result of too many injuries which we get into in great detail in this episode. 

For the first part of the episode Russell and I spend a good deal of time getting to know each other since he is the first guest I have had that I have never actually spoken with before. We discuss a lot of our mutual interest in backcountry hiking. Russell is an avid backcountry hiker and even made sure his kids would have a love for it. 

After this, of course, we discuss Russell’s Jiu Jitsu career, the unique style of those who train at his gym, what its like training at multiple gyms, his thoughts on different belts, his injuries, and much more!

There is something for everyone to enjoy on this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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5 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes 30 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
41 Years Old, 20 Years Rolling: A Brown Belt's Perspective with Martin Delgado

In this episode I am joined by another training partner of mine at One Jiu Jitsu in Tustin California, Martin Delgado. Martin is currently a brown belt who has been training off and on for almost twenty years. We discuss Martin’s unique journey to brown belt which is marked by several different gyms, a few long breaks, major life events, and finally culminating with 8 years of consistent training since 2017. 

Part of Martin’s journey includes a period of time where he along with a few other white belt friends decided to try and learn jujitsu by themselves. They found a gym with some mat space and cheap admission and would try different moves on each other that they saw on youtube!

Martin has competed ten times and he tells us all of the details of some of his most memorable matches. We also discuss a lot about the mental side of jujitsu and how to overcome feelings of discouragement and defeat. 

Hope you enjoy this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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5 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes 54 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Chokes and Check-ups: The Journey of a Black Belt Dentist with Dr. Robert Kim

In this episode I sit down with Dr. Robert Kim, a black belt in jiu jitsu who is quite unique in that he not only has his own jiu jitsu academy, but he also owns his own dental practice!

Dr. Rob is one of the busiest people I know. A husband and father of two, he describes himself as having ADD, yet begins each day with meditation and exercise. He then heads to his dental practice, where he oversees all operations. After work, he shifts his focus to his jiu jitsu dojo, managing everything from belt promotions and student classes to his own training. On top of all that, Dr. Rob also teaches private jiu jitsu lessons, travels internationally to give dentistry lectures, and even finds time to record podcasts.

Rob and I also discuss all things jiu jitsu from his own personal journey which started in the 2000s, to the challenges of promoting students, to injuries and recovery. 

Please tune in to hear more about Dr. Rob!


You can find Dr. Rob at his dental office in Chino Hills, www.aviondental.com or on the mat at his One Jiu Jitsu Redlands, www.redlandsbjj.com.

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5 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes 53 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
From the Mat to the Badge: Wrestling, Jiu-Jitsu and Law Enforcement with Sergeant Daniel Whelan

In this episode I am thrilled to be joined by my cousin, Daniel Whelan. Daniel is a Sergeant in the New Hampshire Police Department, has a purple belt in jiu jitsu, and is a highly accomplished wrestler. 

Dan takes us through his career as a wrestler which started in the 4th grade and continued on through college. From grueling weight-cuts to intense college matches under the lights, Dan shares stories of victories, setbacks, and the life lessons learned along the way. 

Dan started training jiu jitsu in 2007 and was hooked from the start. He recounts his very first class led by the only black belt in the entire state of New Hampshire at the time. He details how shocked he was on that first night expecting to steamroll the competition with his wrestling prowess, but to his surprise, was repeatedly submitted by both blue and white belts. He has been training ever since. 

Dan believes jiu-jitsu should be a cornerstone of police training, emphasizing that the discipline teaches control, composure, and technique over brute force. In high-stress situations, he says jiu-jitsu equips officers with the skills to de-escalate confrontations safely, subdue suspects without excessive force, and protect both themselves and others. 

Hear about all of this and more in this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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6 months ago
1 hour 21 minutes 38 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Still Rolling: Injuries, Insight, and Evolution from 61yo Black Belt Al Reyes

In this episode I sit down with a long time friend of mine, Mr. Al Reyes. I have known Al for almost 20 years although we have never trained together. Al is my first black belt guest and also my first guest over 60! Al trains at Cassio Werneck BJJ in Sacramento, CA, where he has been for 20 years. 

In this episode we discuss Al’s jujitsu journey which actually started in the 90s and continues today. Al discusses how jujitsu instruction has changed through the years, how his own personal style has evolved, how he has overcome injuries and learned to work through them, and also offers several highly beneficial black belt tips! 

We also discuss his own personal journey through belts and promotions and what it was like returning to the mat after a two year absence due to surgery! There is something for everyone to enjoy in the episode of Rolling Over 40!

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6 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 12 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Ultra-marathon runner turns to Jujitsu with Hieu Vu

In this episode I am joined by my friend and training partner Hieu Vu. Hieu is currently a purple belt, trains at One Jujitsu in Tustin California like myself, and is a former marathon runner. 

Hieu takes us through his decades-long journey of training jujitsu starting with the Nogi world in 2008, followed by a ten-plus year hiatus, and starting up again in 2022. In this period of time, Hieu got really into long distance running. He competed in several marathons and also a few ultra-marathons with his longest race being 50 miles!

After a few injuries forced him to dial back his running career, he came back to the world of martial arts and has been training jujitsu for three straight years now. We discuss the differences in mentalities between being a white belt, a blue belt, and a purple belt. We also hear about Hieu’s past competitions and his desire to compete more in the future. 

Hear about all of this and more in this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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6 months ago
1 hour 2 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Santa Ana Roots, Guillotine Sparks, and a First Competition: Fernando’s Story

In this episode, I’m joined by my training partner Fernando Morales — a three-stripe white belt who started his BJJ journey in late 2022, but whose love of combat sports goes all the way back to childhood boxing at just four years old. Fernando shares what it was like growing up in Santa Ana, how boxing shaped his youth, and the night a guillotine choke from a friend first planted the idea of trying jiu-jitsu. We also talk about his biggest surprise since stepping onto the mats: the lack of ego in BJJ compared to boxing, where “a light spar can just turn into a full-on fight.” Fernando reflects on his first competition, the lessons he took from it, and his excitement for many more to come. This is a conversation about growth, humility, and rediscovering the joy of martial arts through jiu-jitsu.There is something for people of all levels to enjoy in this episode of Rolling Over 40!

There is something for people of all levels to enjoy in this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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6 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 53 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Former MMA fighter Dale Corzine talks MMA career, crushing defeat, and finding his passion for jujitsu again

In this episode I am joined by former MMA fighter and BJJ practitioner Dale Corzine. We discuss the origins of Dale's interest in martial arts starting with Tae Kwon Do and wrestling as a youth followed by MMA as a teen.

Dale had dreams of pursuing a career in MMA right out of high school and he takes us through all of the ups and downs of this journey. Working an intense manual labor job by day and adhering to a grueling MMA training schedule by night, Dale had every intention of making his dream come true.

He then breaks down every gripping moment of his big 3 fights and the emotional and physical toll it took on his mind and body. This ultimately led to the unfortunate and difficult decision to no longer pursue a career in MMA and furthermore, to stop training altogether. 

However, after a ten-year break, Dale has found his passion for martial arts again; this time in the form of jujitsu. Along with his son, he trains regularly at Steez Jujitsu Club in Tustin and even plans to compete this coming May. 

You will not want to miss Dale himself recounting his journey in this episode. Hope you enjoy!

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7 months ago
1 hour 32 minutes 23 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
From Pedals to Pressure: A Century Rider’s BJJ Journey with Chris Camia

In this episode I welcome another friend and training partner of mine, Mr. Chris Camia. Chris has been training for almost two years, is a 3-stripe white belt, and is starting to get mentally prepared for his first competition.

We also discuss takedowns and how our gym has been focusing on ways to take the back from standing position for the last few weeks. Chris also goes into detail about the arm triangle and how that is one of his top submissions.

We also discuss common mistakes us white belts make and how we still have a long way to go but we are both greatly enjoying every step of this journey.

Chris also tells about his first recreational jujitsu match which actually took place close to 20 years ago; before he had any formal training!

Hear about all of this and more in this episode of Rolling Over 40!

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7 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 21 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Fight Like a Mother: Self-Defense Through BJJ with Shelisa Diaz

In this episode I welcome my first girl guest! Shelisa Diaz has been my training partner for almost a year, is a one-stripe white belt like myself, and, contrary to how she looks, is actually over 40 years old!

We discuss cauliflower ear, how Shelisa might be developing it and also whether she thinks it is a good or bad look for a guy! We also talk about other injuries and the importance of tapping out especially for those over 40. 

Shelisa also elaborates on her go-tos in terms of sweeps, submissions and how taking the back is possibly her specialty. We also discuss the physical and mental satisfaction of jujitsu and how bjj training is uniquely therapeutic. 

All of this and more in this episode of the Rolling Over 40 podcast!

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7 months ago
47 minutes 22 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
From Punching Bag to Competitor: The Jiu-Jitsu Journey of Cody Corzine

In this episode, I sit down with my friend and training partner, Cody Corzine, whose jiu-jitsu journey is as unique as it is inspiring. Cody’s path began as the “punching bag” for his older MMA-obsessed brother, continued with a stint in the no-gi world of 10th Planet, and eventually brought him to One Jiu Jitsu of Tustin — where he’s now one of the most dedicated students on the mats. Not only does Cody train three times a week, but he takes detailed notes after every class, studies hours of tutorials on sites like BJJ Fanatics, and constantly works to improve his game outside the gym. We also talk about his upcoming first competition in April, and what it means to put all that preparation to the test. Cody’s story is a perfect reminder that passion, discipline, and consistency can transform your jiu-jitsu journey.

Hear about all of this and more in this episode!

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7 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 40 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Twenty Years, Three Continents, One Instructor: The Journey of Houman Shahi

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend and training partner, Houman Shahi — someone whose jiu-jitsu journey is unlike anyone else’s I know. Houman first discovered BJJ nearly twenty years ago, and his path has unfolded in three distinct chapters: beginning in Iran, continuing through Europe, and culminating in Southern California, where he trained under his longtime instructor, Giva Santana. We also dive into Houman’s most recent competition, where he broke his hand mid-match but still pushed through four grueling bouts. He shares not only how he fought physically, but also how he wrestled with the crushing sense of “mental defeat” despite achieving big wins along the way. This is a story of resilience, passion, and what it really means to stay committed to the mats over the long haul.



Follow the link below to see pictures of Houman‘s journey alongside Giva Santana!


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nh7Satq2jMCFmmsvXrpTPVYoKkAq81cK

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8 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 32 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Foosball and Fight Prep: A Look at Steez Jiu Jitsu Club with Purple Belt Jeremy Lee

In this episode, I welcome my friend Jeremy Lee — my first guest from a different academy, Steez Jiu Jitsu Club. Jeremy shares what makes Steez unique, from how their classes are structured and how belts are earned, to the unexpected quirks of training there (yes, including a foosball table in the gym!). We dive into the big differences between white, blue, and purple belts — not just in skill, but in mindset and expectations on the mats. Jeremy also takes us through his first competition as a white belt, where nothing went according to plan: his warm-up was cut short, a triangle slipped away, and even his grip strength nearly gave out. But did he manage to pull off a victory? You’ll have to tune in to find out!



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8 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Ozempic? Nope. Just Jiu-Jitsu — 3-Stripe Mike’s Story

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend and training partner, Mike Tang — a three-stripe white belt who began training jiu-jitsu in March 2023. Before stepping onto the mats, Mike spent years practicing Tae Kwon Do as a kid and playing football in high school, but now he’s found a deeper connection through BJJ. We talk about how training nourishes the “mind, body, and soul,” the satisfaction of steady progress, and the excitement of preparing for his very first competition. Mike also shares why drilling with a grappling dummy has helped his game, his love for the arm triangle, and the reasons he believes everyone should start jiu-jitsu right away. Whether you’re a beginner or a seasoned practitioner, Mike’s journey will remind you why stepping on the mats can change everything.


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8 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 15 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Competing Through Pain: How Khoi Ho Pushed Past an Armbar

In this episode, I sit down with my friend and training partner, Khoi Ho — a 3-stripe blue belt who’s been on the mats since 2018. Khoi shares wild stories from his competition days, including the time he got thrown into a younger bracket at the last minute, the day he was promoted to blue belt right before stepping on the mats, and even the match where he popped his arm in an armbar but refused to quit. We also dive into his experiences training at three different academies, what it really feels like to be a blue belt, and why he thinks smashing white belts is all part of the fun. Most importantly, Khoi lays out three powerful reasons why anyone should start training jiu-jitsu. If you’ve ever wondered what keeps us coming back to the mats, this conversation will get you fired up.

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8 months ago
59 minutes 53 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Am I Too Old to Start Jiu-Jitsu? Mark’s Journey at 37

What’s it really like to start jiu-jitsu later in life? In this episode, I sit down with my friend and training partner, Mark Green — a one-stripe white belt who began training in the fall of 2023 at age 37. We dig into the doubts we had before stepping on the mats, the physical and mental challenges of training as adults, and the surprising rewards that keep us coming back. From sore joints and busy schedules to the joy of small breakthroughs, Mark and I share what the journey has been like so far. If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s “too late” to start jiu-jitsu, this conversation will give you both perspective and encouragement.


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9 months ago
44 minutes 32 seconds

Rolling over 40: The podcast for jujitsu practitioners who are proving that age is just a number
Jiu-jitsu isn’t just for the young — it’s for anyone willing to step on the mats. I’m Conor Whelan, and each week I talk with fellow BJJ practitioners about what it’s really like to train as adults. From dads discovering jiu-jitsu in their 40s to black belts competing at the highest level, we share stories of aches, breakthroughs, and everything in between. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance training, family, and life while still chasing growth on the mats, this podcast is for you.