In this episode, I sat down with Stephen Hakami, CEO of Wiza, a leading B2B data provider. Stephen shared his entrepreneurial journey, starting from his experience in event sales where he identified the need for better data solutions. We discussed how he transformed this pain point into Wiza, which became one of the first tools to enable LinkedIn Sales Navigator search exports with verified contact information.
Stephen provided valuable insights on building a product-led growth (PLG) company while bootstrapping, and how they're now evolving to move upmarket. We explored Wiza's approach to data quality, their focus on accuracy in email verification, and how they handle complex challenges like managing company domains and email formats across different regions.
The conversation also covered current trends in the B2B data space, including waterfall enrichment, AI integration, and the future of cold email. Stephen shared his perspective on acquisition strategies in the B2B data space and how Wiza is positioning itself for continued growth.
Connect with Stephen 📲
LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stephen-hakami-5babb21b0 X: https://x.com/stephenhakami
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction & Wiza's Origins
4:23 - Building a Bootstrapped SaaS
8:15 - Product-Led Growth Strategy
12:47 - Data Quality & Verification
19:32 - AI Integration & Future Trends
27:45 - Cold Email Effectiveness
38:16 - Acquisition Strategy
42:18 - Closing Thoughts
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In this episode, I sat down with Jesse Ouellette from Lead Magic, a leading expert in email deliverability and founder of an innovative email verification platform. Jesse shared his deep technical insights on the evolving landscape of cold email deliverability and how the industry has transformed in 2024.
We discussed the critical technical aspects of email deliverability, including the importance of monitoring systems, infrastructure setup, and identifying potential inbox burnout before it occurs. Jesse provided valuable insights on navigating Microsoft Office and Gmail deliverability challenges and shared strategies for optimizing email campaigns based on recipient domain analysis.
The conversation also covered Lead Magic's journey from a company enrichment service to becoming a cutting-edge email verification platform. Jesse shared his unique perspective on building a PLG SaaS company, the power of community-driven growth, and how he transitioned from sales leadership to becoming a technical founder.
Connect with Jesse 📲
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesseoue
X: https://x.com/jesseogtm
LeadMagic platform: https://app.arcade.software/share/collections/Op5HF4tG9dCMLRqZdvdI
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction & Email Deliverability Changes
8:45 - Technical Monitoring Systems
15:30 - Microsoft Office vs Gmail Deliverability
25:12 - LinkedIn Outreach Strategies
35:45 - Lead Magic's Evolution
45:20 - Building a PLG SaaS
55:15 - Email Verification Technology
1:02:30 - Closing Thoughts
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In this episode, I interviewed Bruce Merrill, founder of Cleverly, a LinkedIn lead generation company. Bruce shared his journey from college dropout to successful entrepreneur, detailing Cleverly's growth strategies, including their focus on customer support, AI integration, and continuous process improvement.
Bruce also discussed Cleverly's hiring approach, the impact of AI on their operations, and the importance of simplification as they scale. He emphasized providing value to clients, maintaining profitability, and creating a positive work environment. Bruce's practical insights offer valuable lessons for entrepreneurs looking to grow their businesses effectively.
Brought to you by...
Leadbird.io
LeadBird is a lead generation agency specializing in performance-driven cold email agency that generate demos and drives growth.
Go to leadbird.io to learn more.
Chapters
(00:04:01) - Scaling account management
(00:14:47) - Competition in LinkedIn lead generation
(00:23:58) - Implementing AI in the business
(00:35:46) - Keeping processes simple as company grows
(00:48:45) - Hiring lessons learned
Host links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abraham
https://x.com/NickAbraham12
Guest links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brucemerrill/
Keywords:
LinkedIn lead generation, entrepreneurship, startup growth, customer service, AI integration, automation, company culture, hiring process, business strategy, marketing, sales, profitability, team management, client satisfaction, business scaling
In this episode, I spoke with Hans Dekker, a veteran in the cold email and B2B SaaS space. We discussed his experience founding and selling Lyne, an AI-powered cold email personalization tool, as well as his time working at companies like Growbots. Hans shared valuable insights on product-led growth models, the challenges of running a B2B SaaS business, and the importance of positioning and audience targeting. We also explored innovative go-to-market strategies, including content marketing and leveraging integrations with other tools.
The conversation then shifted to current trends and opportunities in the B2B space. We discussed the evolution of data providers like Apollo and ZoomInfo, the potential for intent data at the individual level, and the growing importance of deliverability in cold outreach. Hans emphasized the value of focusing on smaller, highly targeted lists and using multi-channel approaches to reach the right decision-makers.
Brought to you by...
Leadbird.io
LeadBird is a lead generation agency specializing in performance-driven cold email agency that generate demos and drives growth.
Go to leadbird.io to learn more.
Chapters
(00:03:19) - Lyne: Product Evolution and Go-to-Market Strategy
(00:17:57) - SaaS vs Agency Business Models
(00:27:38) - Apollo's Move into Services
(00:33:05) - LinkedIn's Potential in B2B Data
(00:39:07) - Improving B2B Database Accuracy
Host links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abraham
https://x.com/NickAbraham12
Guest links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/itshansdekker/
Keywords:
cold email, SaaS, PLG, agency, data, Apollo, LinkedIn, deliverability, personalization, content marketing, product-led growth, B2B sales, AI, integrations, intent data
In this episode, I interviewed Daniel Fazio, a successful digital marketing entrepreneur. We discussed his ventures ListKit and Client Ascension, and explored strategies for scaling businesses. Daniel emphasizes the importance of transitioning to paid advertising once businesses reach around $25K to $30K per month, sharing impressive metrics from his ad campaigns. He highlights the need for a well-structured funnel and a deep understanding of the customer journey, from ad engagement to conversion.
We also discuss the advantages of high-ticket offers over low-ticket SaaS models, which often limit growth potential. Daniel argues that businesses should create offers that can cover customer acquisition costs while generating significant lifetime value. He stresses the importance of producing useful content that directly addresses customer needs, rather than vague platitudes, providing valuable insights for anyone looking to scale their business effectively.
Brought to you by...
Leadbird.io
LeadBird is a lead generation agency specializing in performance-driven cold email agency that generate demos and drives growth.
Go to leadbird.io to learn more.
Chapters
(00:03:00) - Benefits of Working with High-Earning Clients
(00:04:37) - Identifying Funnel Breakage Points
(00:14:57) - Impact of Showing Prices Early
(00:23:35) - Challenges of Scaling Low-Ticket SaaS
(00:28:21) - Agency vs. SaaS: Ease of Scaling
(00:37:20) - Importance of Multi-Channel Marketing
Host links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abraham
https://x.com/NickAbraham12
Guest links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/coldemailwizard/
Keywords:
Cold Email, Client Ascension, List Kit, Olympia Offer, Advertising Strategy, High Ticket Sales, Funnel Optimization, Content Marketing, Business Scaling
In this episode, we’re joined by Vaibhav Namburi, the founder of SmartLead.ai, a groundbreaking platform that has revolutionized cold email outreach. We delved into various aspects of email deliverability, discussing the effectiveness of warm-up networks, the importance of customized copy, and the ongoing debate between private and public email infrastructure.
Vaibhav emphasized that while technical aspects like DKIM and SPF are crucial, the real challenge lies in crafting unique and engaging messages that resonate with recipients. He shared insights on how successful campaigns focus on tailored content and maintaining a positive engagement ratio to enhance deliverability. We also touched on the evolution of SmartLead's go-to-market strategy, highlighting the importance of customer support and community engagement in driving growth.
Brought to you by...
Leadbird.io
LeadBird is a lead generation agency specializing in performance-driven cold email agency that generate demos and drives growth.
Go to leadbird.io to learn more.
Chapters
04:10 - AI in Email Copywriting
06:08 - Low Volume vs. High Volume Campaigns
13:08 - Email Infrastructure Setup
16:32 - Smart Delivery and Domain Management
35:41 - Go-to-Market Strategy for New Ventures
Host links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abraham
https://x.com/NickAbraham12
Guest links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaibhavnamburi
https://www.smartlead.ai/
Keywords:
cold email, deliverability, domain reputation, email infrastructure, personalization, demand generation, demand capture, lead magnets, case studies, AI copywriting, email campaign structure, objection handling, market research, customer pain points, ChatGPT
In this go-to-market podcast episode, Eric Nowoslawski of Growth Engine X shares lead generation strategies for today's challenging landscape. He covers maintaining multiple email infrastructures, humanizing cold emails, and focusing on fundamentals rather than complex campaign structures.
Brought to you by...
Leadbird.io
LeadBird is a lead generation agency specializing in performance-driven cold email agency that generate demos and drives growth.
Go to leadbird.io to learn more.
Chapters
00:21 - Email Infrastructure Diversification: Maintain multiple domains and inboxes for better deliverability.
01:36 - Humanizing Cold Emails: Focus on personalized messages over generic templates for engagement.
09:33 - Demand Capture vs. Demand Generation: Tailor strategies based on market awareness of services.
34:33 - Proactive Objection Handling: Address potential objections directly in email content.
35:36 - Leveraging Case Studies and Mechanisms: Highlight processes and mechanisms, not just case studies.
Keywords
cold email, lead generation, email deliverability, spam filters, email infrastructure, humanizing emails, email warming, domain reputation, case studies, demand capture, demand generation, outreach strategy, personalization, bounce rate, email campaigns, automation tools, client acquisition, market research, email copywriting, performance-driven emails, hyper-personalized emails
Host links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-abraham
https://x.com/NickAbraham12
Guest links
https://www.linkedin.com/in/outboundphd
https://x.com/enowoslawski
