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Battling with Business
Battling With Business
132 episodes
6 days ago
In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.
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In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.
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Management
Education,
Business,
Self-Improvement
Episodes (20/132)
Battling with Business
Episode 143 - Shifting Ground: Finding Purpose and Leadership in Times of Change
Change is inevitable, but how leaders handle transitions, both their own and their team’s, defines long-term success. In this reflective episode, Chris  and Gareth explore the many faces of transition: from promotions and career shifts to redundancy, retirement, and identity change. Drawing on Chris’s recent personal experience of redundancy, they unpack how leaders can guide themselves and others through the uncertainty of change with honesty, empathy, and resilience. The discussion ranges from the emotional impact of transitions to practical advice on handovers, adaptability, and reframing identity. They explore how leadership is tested most during times of transition, how managing emotional as well as operational aspects of change is critical. They also discuss how every transition, personal or professional, is an opportunity to grow. Leaders must support both those leaving and those staying behind and change, handled well, strengthens resilience and adaptability. If you’ve ever faced a major shift in work or life, or led others through one, this episode offers grounded wisdom, humour, and perspective. Tune in to reflect, reset, and rethink how you handle transition.
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6 days ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Battling with Business
Episode 142 - Rerelease of Episode 8 - Adaptive teams and Pirates
In this high-stakes episode, a release of one of our very first episodes, Gareth Tennant shares a gripping real-world account of how a small, well-trained team of Royal Marine Commandos outsmarted a group of Somali pirates, and what it reveals about building truly adaptive teams. Discover how elite military units use repetition, rehearsals, mission command, and common operating procedures to stay agile under pressure. From battlefield coordination to business boardrooms, this episode breaks down the core principles behind high-performance teamwork in unpredictable environments. Whether you're leading in crisis or just want to level up your team's adaptability, this story-driven episode is packed with actionable insights on resilience, trust, and executing flawlessly when it matters most. Perfect for leaders, entrepreneurs, and teams who want to thrive under pressure. Tune in now to learn how to build agile, high-functioning teams that can outpace the unexpected.
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1 week ago
46 minutes

Battling with Business
Episode 141 - Influencers #25 - Richard Branson - The Cult of Cool and How He Made Business Fun
In this episode of Battling with Business, hosts Gareth Tennant and Chris Kitchener explore the life and leadership lessons of Sir Richard Branson the entrepreneur, adventurer, and founder of the Virgin Group. Branson’s story is one of audacious vision, relentless optimism, and authentic leadership that continues to inspire generations of business leaders. What does it take to build a global empire while staying true to yourself, and still have fun along the way? Leadership isn’t about control, it’s about curiosity and courage. Failure isn’t fatal; it’s feedback for the next attempt. Passion and fun can drive exceptional performance. Authenticity builds loyalty faster than authority ever can. Vision, optimism, and risk-taking create lasting impact. From selling records and surviving a near-drowning in the Atlantic to building airlines and space ventures, Branson’s journey reveals how courage, curiosity, and compassion can coexist with commercial success. Gareth and Chris unpack his philosophy, from hiring to your weaknesses and putting people first to embracing failure as a path to learning. Tune in to hear how Branson’s life of adventure mirrors the principles of great leadership, and why “Dr. Yes” might just be the ultimate example of leading with positivity.
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 4 minutes

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Episode 140 - Red Teaming : Stress Testing Leadership and Strategy
In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth Tennant and Chris Kitchener take on the challenge of Red Teaming, a structured way to challenge assumptions, stress test plans, and think like competitors or critics. They put the concept into practice by running a live exercise on air. Listeners will learn why Red Teaming is different from everyday critique or boardroom debates, how it helps organisations avoid blind spots, groupthink, and overconfidence along with real examples from military operations, business transformations, and the COVID-19 crisis and then finishing up with a quick discussion about practical tools for applying Red Teaming in organisations of any size Whether you are a CEO, team leader, or individual contributor, this episode will get you thinking differently about planning and resilience. Imagine a business where Red Teaming is a habit rather than a rarity. That's a business far better prepared for the unexpected! Listen in to learn how Red Teaming can sharpen your strategy and strengthen your leadership.
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 11 minutes

Battling with Business
Episode 139 - The Military Planning Combat Estimate - 7 questions that will change your business - Part 2
Gareth Tennant and Chris Kitchener reveal the second half of the UK military’s seven-step planning model, and show how every business can boost resilience and performance with clear, communal frameworks. This episode focuses on turning strategy into execution: allocating resources, orchestrating timing, defining coordination, and establishing practical control measures. The discussion tackles cross-departmental alignment, reporting cycles, culture, and learning how to manage through real-world complexity and unexpected change. Listeners will discover how the discipline of “chunked” planning and cascading communication connects even the most junior team members to the outcome. If you’re serious about building agile, winning teams in any industry, don’t miss this practical, engaging conclusion to the Combat Estimate series, and walk away ready to apply a proven template for smarter, faster business execution.
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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes

Battling with Business
Episode 138 - The Military Planning Combat Estimate - 7 questions that will change your business - Part 1
Unlock the secrets of robust planning and flexible leadership by learning from both the battlefield and the boardroom.In the first episode of our exploration of the British military’s Combat Estimate, Gareth and Chris kick off a two-part deep dive into the UK military's renowned 'Seven Questions' Combat Estimate — a practical, repeatable approach for building resilient teams and effective management strategies. This episode charts how military planning models, built for complexity and clarity, can transform business practices. Explore why a decision is better than indecision, and why planning is not just about the document but the discussion and alignment across every level. Key takeaways include the power of context, the importance of communicating intent, and the principle that adapting is winning — whether you're leading eight people or a thousand. Don’t miss the engaging debate on why organizations often rush into execution over thoughtful strategy, and how adopting a repeatable planning framework can drive competitive advantage. Listen now for insights and prepare for Part 2, where Gareth and Chris unravel the remaining questions and reveal how every business can use the Combat Estimate to win in fast-changing environments.
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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

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Episode 137 - Influencers #24 - Dwight D. Eisenhower
Episode Summary: Dwight D. Eisenhower – Leadership Lessons for Business and Beyond In this Influencers episode of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth explore the leadership legacy of Dwight D. Eisenhower — Supreme Allied Commander during World War II and later the 34th President of the United States. Known for his calm authority and strategic thinking, Eisenhower shaped the course of history through coalition building, careful planning, and decisive action. The conversation unpacks how Eisenhower managed complex teams, balanced powerful personalities, and made critical decisions under pressure skills as relevant to today’s business leaders as they were on the battlefield.  From military command to political leadership, Eisenhower’s legacy offers timeless insights into delegation, organisation, and building trust. Whether you’re leading a team, a business, or just looking to sharpen your decision-making, this episode reveals what modern leaders can learn from Eisenhower’s example.
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1 month ago
1 hour 9 minutes

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Episode 136 - Rerelease of episode 6 - What are Command, Leadership & Management?
Rerelease: Command, Leadership & Management We’re taking a step back into the archive to revisit one of our most listened-to episodes of Battling with Business: our deep dive into command, leadership, and management. In this conversation, Chris and Gareth unpack the often-confused but vitally important differences between these three concepts. Drawing on both military and business experience, we explore how they overlap, where they diverge, and why understanding the distinctions matters for anyone trying to get the best from their team. Crucially, we highlight why being clear about the differences is especially important in the military, where lives can depend on the balance between command authority, leadership influence, and effective management. We look at questions such as: What makes a good commander versus a good leader or manager? Why do organisations so often blur these roles? How can clarity improve performance in business, teams, and on the battlefield? This episode is a straight rerelease — no edits, no new intro — just the original conversation as it was recorded, highlighting lessons on leadership and management that are as relevant today as when we first released it.
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2 months ago
48 minutes

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Episode 135 - The Philosophy of Leadership with Professor Damian O'Doherty: Lounges, Bureaucracy, and the Myth of the Hero
In this special episode of Battling with Business, Gareth and Chris are joined by Professor Damian O’Doherty, an academic at the University of Liverpool whose work explores leadership, organisational culture, and critical management studies.Together, they dive into the philosophy of leadership and management, exploring ideas like: Reconstructing organization: moving beyond modern vs. postmodern management thinking. Loungification of society: why our workplaces (and even leadership styles) might look more like lounges than factories.The myth of the heroic leader: why hero-worship in leadership can be dangerous and how bureaucracy might be due for a comeback.Ethnography in business: what we learn when we actually live inside the organizations we study. This episode is less about practical frameworks and more about challenging ideas that shape how we see leadership today.
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2 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes 3 seconds

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Episode 134 - Rerelease of Episode 7 - What is Strategy?
In this rereleased episode of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth unpack one of the most important questions in business and leadership: what is strategy, really? While many people mistake strategy for a plan, true strategy is something deeper. Strategy is the process of making decisions and allocating resources to achieve long-term goals under uncertainty and change. ✅ In this episode, you’ll learn: The difference between strategy and planning. Why uncertainty, risk, and competition make strategy essential. How to connect vision, mission, and goals to strategic action. Practical examples of strategy in business and the military. 🎯 Who is this episode for?Business leaders, entrepreneurs, managers, consultants, and anyone searching for clear answers to: What is business strategy? Difference between strategy and a plan How to develop a strategy under uncertainty Why strategy matters for long-term success 🔍 Whether you’re running a startup or leading in a complex organisation, this episode will give you a practical framework for understanding strategy as a living process — not a static document.
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2 months ago
48 minutes 47 seconds

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Episode 133 - Influencers #23 - Mary Parker Follett : The Forgotten Founder of Modern Leadership:
In this Influencers episode, Gareth and Chris shine a light on one of the most overlooked pioneers of leadership and management thinking: Mary Parker Follett. A radical voice from the early 20th century, Follett challenged the rigid, hierarchical models of her time and instead promoted collaboration, empowerment, emotional intelligence, and decentralized decision-making — decades before these ideas were popularized. Gareth and Chris explore why her ideas were ignored, how they’re still relevant (and often misunderstood), and what lessons leaders can draw from her work in today’s AI-driven world. If you think “power with” sounds obvious, think again — Mary said it first, and it was revolutionary.
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2 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 18 seconds

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Episode 130 - The power and value of board games with Lt Col Mike Harvey
In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth Tennant and Chris Kitchener are joined by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Harvey to explore how games—from ancient board games to modern war gaming and gamified business practices—can teach powerful lessons about leadership, decision-making, strategy, and team behaviour. They challenge the idea that games are childish or trivial and show how, when used properly, they become serious tools for simulating complex situations, developing strategy, breaking down biases, building trust, and improving communication. From role-playing games and corporate war gaming to gamified cybersecurity and leadership development, the trio dive deep into how games can help leaders and teams thrive in uncertainty. If you think games are just for kids, think again.
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3 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes 3 seconds

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Episode 132 - Rerelease of episode 2 - Mission, Purpose, Vision & Goals
In this rereleased episode of Battling with Business, hosts Chris and Gareth explore one of the most misunderstood areas of organisational strategy: the difference between mission, purpose, vision, and goals — and how they work together to drive business success. What you’ll learn in this episode: The true meaning of purpose in business and why it matters. How a clear mission statement guides daily operations. What a compelling vision looks like and how it inspires long-term direction. How to set strategic goals that align with your purpose, mission, and vision. 🎯 Whether you’re a business leader, entrepreneur, manager, or consultant, this episode will help you: Avoid common mistakes in strategic planning. Align teams with a clear and motivating direction. Build a strong organisational foundation for sustainable growth. 🔍 Perfect for listeners searching for: “Difference between mission and vision” “What is business purpose?” “How to set strategic goals” “Vision vs mission vs purpose vs goals” “How to align business strategy” This episode offers clear explanations, practical insights, and real-world examples to help you better understand and apply these key concepts in your own organisation.
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3 months ago
49 minutes 35 seconds

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Episode 131 - Inside High Performing Teams - Lisa Lloyd on the Psychology of Great Leadership
In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth and Chris welcome psychologist and workplace culture expert Lisa Lloyd. Together, they dive deep into the emotional and psychological dynamics that underpin effective leadership and high-performing teams. Lisa brings insights from her work in psychology and behavioural science, exploring the importance of understanding emotional needs, building trust, and creating psychological safety. The conversation debunks leadership myths, discusses how to be vulnerable without undermining authority, and outlines how even the smallest behaviours shape culture. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just stepping into management, this episode challenges you to reflect, connect, and lead with greater awareness.
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3 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 29 seconds

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Episode 129 - Influencers #23 - Arthur Tedder – The Quiet Architect of Victory
In this episode of Battling with Business, Gareth and Chris delve into the life and leadership of Arthur Tedder, Marshal of the Royal Air Force and one of the most underrated military figures of WWII. Far from the front-page headlines, Tedder played a crucial strategic role as Eisenhower’s deputy, reshaping how air power supported ground operations and building the logistical frameworks that helped win the war. We explore Tedder’s journey from fighter pilot to senior commander, highlighting his diplomatic skills, cross-service curiosity, and ability to combine strategy with operational execution. This is a conversation about what it really takes to lead at scale—and why the best leaders are oftennot the loudest ones.
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3 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes

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Episode 128 - Developing Leaders in the Royal Air Force with the Tedder Leadership Academy - Part 2
In the Second of two episodes of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth visit the Royal Air Force Tedder Leadership Academy to explore the core themes of leadership, management, and command with: Group Captain Emma Keith and Warrant Officer Mark Willis. Together, they delve into: The distinct but interrelated roles of leadership, management, and command in military and civilian contexts. How the RAF develops and nurtures leaders across all ranks and trades. The importance of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and authenticity in effective leadership. The evolving challenges of leading in a modern, multi-domain environment. Reflections on how leadership theory is translated into practical delivery through real-world experience and education. Insights into how the Tedder Academy is shaping the next generation of RAF leaders and contributing to wider Defence thinking. What is the role of legacy and handing over command. This episode provides a fascinating window into the RAF’s leadership philosophy and raises thought-provoking questions about what it takes to lead well under pressure, whether in uniform or in business.
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3 months ago
53 minutes 51 seconds

Battling with Business
Episode 127 - Developing Leaders in the Royal Air Force with the Tedder Leadership Academy - Part 1
In the first of two episodes of Battling with Business, Chris and Gareth visit the Royal Air Force Tedder Leadership Academy to explore the core themes of leadership, management, and command with: Group Captain Emma Keith and Warrant Officer Mark Willis. Together, they delve into: The distinct but interrelated roles of leadership, management, and command in military and civilian contexts. How the RAF develops and nurtures leaders across all ranks and trades. The importance of self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and authenticity in effective leadership. The evolving challenges of leading in a modern, multi-domain environment. Reflections on how leadership theory is translated into practical delivery through real-world experience and education. Insights into how the Tedder Academy is shaping the next generation of RAF leaders and contributing to wider Defence thinking. What is the role of legacy and handing over command. This episode provides a fascinating window into the RAF’s leadership philosophy and raises thought-provoking questions about what it takes to lead well under pressure, whether in uniform or in business.  
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4 months ago
50 minutes 19 seconds

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Episode 126 - Leading with Pride – LGBT+ Inclusion in the Armed Forces with Commander Roly Woods
In this powerful episode of Battling with Business, we sit down with Commander Roly Woods, a retired Royal Navy officer with over 46 years of service, to explore the personal and institutional journey of LGBTQ+ inclusion in the British Armed Forces. Now the LGBT Armed Forces Community Memorial Officer for the charity Fighting with Pride, Roly reflects on his early motivations to join the Navy, leadership experiences, and the dramatic transformation of military culture since the lifting of the ban on LGBT personnel in 2000. Together, we delve into the challenges LGBTQ+ service members faced under institutional discrimination — from living in secrecy, to emotional isolation, to dishonourable discharges and loss of medals. Roly shares deeply moving personal stories and historic insights into how courageous individuals and strong leadership drove systemic change across the Royal Navy, leading to today’s more inclusive and emotionally intelligent environment. We also discuss the ongoing efforts of Fighting with Pride, including: Raising awareness of the Veterans’ Financial Recognition Scheme Supporting LGBTQ+ veterans in restoring medals and service records Building community through initiatives like the Snowdonia retreat Leading the creation of the LGBT Armed Forces Memorial at the National Memorial Arboretum Whether you’re interested in military leadership, organizational change, or the evolving rights of LGBTQ+ veterans, this episode provides an essential perspective on how empathy, courage, and advocacy can reshape even the most traditional institutions. Listen now to hear about the untold stories behind the UK military’s transformation — and how leaders like Commander Woods continue to inspire change today.
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4 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 55 seconds

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Episode 125 - Influencers #21 - Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Podcast Summary – Influencers: Ruth Bader Ginsburg In this episode, Chris and Gareth explore the remarkable life and enduring influence of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, examining how her strategic legal work reshaped gender equality in the United States. They discuss her legacy as a pioneering advocate for women’s rights, her resilience in the face of societal and professional obstacles, and her ability to drive lasting change through case law and coalition-building. Using examples like the 20-mph speed limit in Wales, they reflect on the human tendency to resist change before ultimately embracing it—paralleling the societal shifts Ginsburg helped spark. The conversation also delves into broader themes of feminism, the evolving role of women in the military and workforce, and how curiosity and open dialogue can influence personal growth and collective progress. From her ground-breaking legal achievements to her surprising cultural impact—including appearances in Deadpool 2 and Lego form—this episode highlights how Ginsburg’s legacy continues to inspire across political, social, and generational lines. Chris and Gareth underscore the power of conversation, respect across divides, and the courage to challenge the status quo in pursuit of a fairer world.
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4 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 28 seconds

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Episode 124 - Lessons in systems thinking from the Battle of the Bulge
In this episode, Chris and Gareth reflect on their recent research trip to the Ardennes forest, delving into the leadership, innovation, and operational lessons drawn from key World War II battles, particularly the Battle of the Bulge. Through site visits and historical analysis, they explore the contrasting leadership styles of figures like Adolf Hitler, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Joachim Peiper. They discuss how Eisenhower’s decentralized “mission command” approach enabled Allied adaptability, while Hitler’s rigid and delusional control hampered German success. The conversation also tackles the controversial figure of Peiper, debating whether effectiveness can excuse unethical leadership, and draws comparisons with other military leaders like Paddy Mayne. Chris and Gareth also examine differences in German and Allied military innovation, contrasting the over-engineered but unreliable German Tiger tanks with the more pragmatic and adaptable American Sherman. Drawing lessons for modern leadership and business, they warn against betting on singular, complex solutions instead of scalable, flexible systems. From the surprising utility of the German “Jerry can” to the broader challenges of making decisions under pressure, this episode blends tactical insight with strategic reflection, offering valuable takeaways for leaders in any field.
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4 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 26 seconds

Battling with Business
In this podcast, Gareth Tennant, a former Royal Marines Officer, and Chris Kitchener, a veteran of the software development world, explore ideas and concepts around teams and teamwork, leaders and leadership, and all things in between. It’s a discussion between a former military commander and a business manager, comparing and contrasting their experiences as they attempt to work out what makes teams, leaders, and businesses tick.