Patrick and Ross fire up the mics late at night for a looser, spicier edition of the pod. They riff on everything from their daughter’s new kindergarten routines (homework packets already?!) to class, fashion, and political hypocrisy. The conversation veers into ADHD, social media overload, MAGA neighbors, and how billionaires bunker down while the rest of us just try to live.
Ross spills insider fashion-world tea (Alexander Wang, Dolce & Gabbana, and Kristen Chenoweth catching strays), while Patrick recalls the moment he realized in fourth grade that his sneakers weren’t cool enough — a childhood origin story for his comedy instincts.
Amid the chaos, there are sweet moments too: gratitude for family cuddles, their daughter’s love of home, and Ross’s reflections on the value of her caregiving work. Expect tangents, rants, laughs, and that classic “after dark” energy.
Upcoming: Patrick performs at The Stress Factory in NJ this weekend, opening for Ian Fidance.
Follow Patrick and Ross on socials: @itspatrickholbert & @itsrosserinmartineau — and check out Patrick’s site patrickholbert.com

Podcast Title: We Hired a Sitter For This
With Ross Erin Martineau away this week, Patrick Holbert takes the mic solo — juggling comedy career updates, family life, and mental health check-ins all in one episode.
Patrick’s got a packed schedule:



Sept 11 – Grisly Pair (West Village, midnight show)


Sept 12–13 – Providence Comedy Connection featuring for Ian Fidance


Next weekend (Thurs–Sat) – Stress Factory New Jersey with Ian Fidance


On the road, Patrick and Ian are also shooting episodes for a new “silly Dirty Jobs-style” travel show while Patrick leans into YouTube growth with consistent podcast uploads.
Offstage, he opens up about the financial whiplash of inconsistent income, feeling disconnected from the NYC comedy scene, and a Sunday depression episode that tested family dynamics. He’s back at meetings, revisiting Raymond Chandler novels, and even carrying a “magical crystal” to stay grounded.
Rounding things out, Patrick shares film takes: Friendship, Sicario, and a defense of Reptile — where he enjoyed Justin Timberlake playing against type.
Follow Patrick at @itspatrickholbert, check out dates and content at www.patrickholbert.com, and don’t miss the Patreon for bonus comedy and yoga extras.

On We Hired a Sitter For This, Ross Erin Martineau (doula) and Patrick Holbert (comedian/dad) dig into financial anxiety, summer camp costs, and why Patrick wrote “Vision without solvency is delusion” in his morning pages. A scrapped camping trip led to a Governor’s Island adventure filled with chaotic meals, a $40 surrey bike mishap, and Fran’s big leap into kindergarten.

Show Summary: WE HIRED A SITTER FOR THIS Episode 203 "Eat. Pray. Dude."
Patrick Holbert and Ross Erin Martineau reflect on the growing pains of their podcast, including low YouTube numbers (just 30 views last week) and shifting focus from couple talk to parenting content. They dive into the hellscape of social media moderation, noting Instagram’s tendency to flag pro-immigrant posts, and touch on troubling global politics like North Korea cozying up to Russia.
Patrick recounts awkward confrontations at Enterprise (with poor Wally, the rental car manager) and at a HOKA store over shoe prices, while Ross ties these moments back to patterns of impatience inherited from family. Listener feedback about the podcast’s pacing sparks an honest conversation about the show’s evolution.
The free version ends here, but Patreon subscribers can hear the rest — including Ross’s inside story about a Brooklyn yoga studio that veers into cult-like territory. For just $2/month, you get bonus episodes and exclusive deep dives.
Follow your hosts on social media & YouTube:Patrick Holbert@itspatrickholbertwww.patrickholbert.com
Ross Erin Martineau@itsrosserinmartineau

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Patrick and Ross reflect on a vacation in Connecticut and the impact of personal experiences on their podcast narrative.
Ross provides insights on the Biggest Loser documentary, critiquing unhealthy weight loss practices and exploitation tactics in reality TV.
Patrick expresses remorse over previous reality TV production, highlighting the ethical issues faced by participants, especially minors.
Rising rent has led to the closure of beloved local restaurants in Williamsburg, sparking discussions on gentrification and community identity.
A movie theater incident caused by insufficient food intake led Patrick to consume a variety of snacks during the film, illustrating health management challenges.
Discussion on healthcare concerns centers around Gatekeeper insurance plans and potential Medicaid qualification, reflecting on systemic issues in healthcare.
Consideration of relocating to more affordable cities highlights financial pressures and the significance of their current apartment as a financial anchor.
Ross officially transitions to a birth/postpartum doula career, managing anxiety over financial stability and the nature of unpaid labor in the field.
The hosts express satisfaction with their summer experiences, mentioning one last camping trip before the school year begins.
Promotion of exclusive Patreon content, including a yoga class video, fosters community engagement and additional support for the podcast.

Notes
️ Podcast Introduction & Personal Updates (00:00 - 04:14)
Patrick and Ross hosting episode 202 of 'We Hired a Sitter for this' podcast, discussing recent activities including a day at a lake/pond in Connecticut with friends.
Ross hasn't showered in 24 hours after swimming, joking about potential parasites and underwater life in 'grundle area'.
Family recently returned from 3-week vacation, back home for 5 days as of Wednesday night.
Health & Maintenance Tasks (04:14 - 05:49)
Multiple upcoming appointments needed: Peggy (dog) needs vet checkup, both hosts need dental checkups, Patrick needs annual doctor visit, Fran needs bang trim before school starts.
Patrick interested in working out, went rollerblading twice during vacation and loved it, looking to 'sweat' more.
Media Discussion - The Biggest Loser Documentary (05:49 - 14:41)
Ross watched 2-3 episodes of Biggest Loser documentary, describing problematic aspects of the show including extreme dieting and 8-hour workout sessions.
Discussion of unsustainable weight loss methods, with one contestant using diet pills and cleanse in final weeks.
Critique of show's exploitation and manipulation tactics, including rushed contract signing in limos.
Career Reflections & Reality TV Industry (14:41 - 17:49)
Patrick reflecting on shame regarding past reality TV production work, acknowledging exploitation of participants, especially minors.
Discussion of intelligent people in reality TV industry who could be doing more meaningful work instead of selling products.
️ Date Night & Neighborhood Changes (20:40 - 24:42)
Couple had date night Friday seeing 'The Naked Gun' at Williamsburg Cinema, followed by unexpected sushi dinner.
Discovery that longtime Williamsburg restaurants M Shanghai and Bozu have closed due to rising rent, along with Atlas Cafe.
Patrick's frustration about neighborhood gentrification and loss of local businesses to billionaire real estate interests.
Movie Theater Incident (26:07 - 30:21)
Patrick experienced 'the shakes' during movie due to not eating all day, consuming only breakfast at 7:30am and bagel/cereal at 1pm.
Emergency food consumption included meat tube hot dog, small popcorn,

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* Family code for bodily functions developed by Ross's daughter emphasizes creative family communication and humor.



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Ross completed a three-week working vacation, balancing remote work with quality family time, to improve work-life harmony.
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Franny engaged in hands-on activities like holding a blue macaw, showcasing the educational value of family outings, particularly to the Mystic Aquarium.
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Ross and Heather practiced 'forest bathing' and embraced a digital detox, leading to personal reflections on guilt versus mental health needs.
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Completion of postpartum doula certification during the vacation supports Ross's career transition and aligns with insurance benefit requirements.
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New client introduction anticipated with a focus on screening for compatible family dynamics and avoiding micromanagement issues.
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Ross's service philosophy combines breathwork and yoga to support postpartum mental health, offering reassurance to new parents through presence during sessions.
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Rollerblading in local parks gives Patrick physical activity while highlighting public libraries as supportive community resources.
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Franny's interest in marine biology sparked by family experiences during vacation, including turtle spotting, promotes exploration of her emerging passions.



 

Notes



️ Podcast Production & Business (01:22 - 02:41)


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Discussed need to legitimately schedule podcast recording in calendar instead of spontaneous 9:30 PM sessions
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Received critique from Caleb Heron's podcast featuring Ziwe, who criticized podcasts for talking too much about podcasting itself
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Acknowledged feedback about discussing the act of podcasting excessively rather than diving deeper into topics


‍‍ Family Terminology & Vacation Context (04:01 - 09:51)


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Established family numbering system for bodily functions: number one (urination), number two (defecation), number three (diarrhea) - created by 5-year-old daughter
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Currently driving back to Brooklyn from Connecticut after leaving daughter Franny with grandparents for two days, will pick her up Saturday
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Completed three-week working vacation: Connecticut → Maine (one week) → Connecticut, with remote work throughout


Maine Vacation Activities & Experiences (11:26 - 20:21)


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Patrick took Franny to Mystic Aquarium and Mystic Village where she held an 18-year-old blue macaw named Mickey owned by elderly man who frequents the area
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Macaw details: intelligence of 8-year-old, 50-100 year lifespan, won't speak in public but talks at home, nine tail feathers
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Visited aquarium exhibits, particularly impressed by jellyfish displays described as 'from another planet'


Nature & Wellness Activities (23:27 - 27:00)


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Ross and Heather engaged in extensive 'forest bathing' and nature activities, including nude afternoon sessions
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Ross experienced nervous system reset from unplugging from social media and news consumption during vacation
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Struggled with guilt over disconnecting from world events, particularly genocide coverage, while acknowledging need for breaks


Professional Development (28:45 - 32:12)


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Ross completed postpartum doula certification during vacation, fast-tracking requirements for insurance benefit compatibility
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* Celebrated recording of Episode 200 of "We Hired a Sitter for This," highlighting milestone achievements in active podcast engagement since launch.



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Recorded Episode 199, described as a 'fragmented mess,' due to a delay, with plans to include a newly recorded intro to enhance the narrative.
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Current recording location in Maine emphasizes privacy and personal safety, specifically at friends' home, which reflects a strategic choice for content creation.
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Personal challenges discussed include Ross's stolen phone, recent biking accident, and ongoing health issues affecting the overall podcasting experience.
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Commitment made by Patrick to upload yoga classes for Patreon subscribers, particularly addressing students like Tori, reflecting ongoing content support for dedicated listeners.
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Ross plans to release comedy sets for Patreon, marking a significant step toward developing a full hour of stand-up material aimed for 2026 taping.
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The hosts share a 14-year relationship history, planning to celebrate their upcoming 15-year milestone, underscoring bond continuity amidst personal and professional upheavals.
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Connection to host family's 20-year friendship highlights the foundation of community and mutual support, influencing personal growth narratives within the podcast themes.
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Family preference for a single child and pet reflects underlying shared life philosophies emphasizing simplicity and focus within their personal lives.
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Noted challenges include differences in health and well-being, bringing personal struggles into the shared space of podcast content, fostering authenticity in storytelling.



 

Notes



Episode 200 Milestone & Production Updates (00:00 - 01:28)


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Celebrating Episode 200 of 'We Hired a Sitter for This' podcast, recorded on Tuesday, August 5th, 2025
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Episode 199 (Block Island episode) delayed and described as 'fragmented mess' - planning to record intro and add time machine element
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Recording location: Maine at Obama family friends' house for privacy protection


️ Travel & Location Context (02:54 - 10:55)


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Out of New York City for approximately 8-9 days during first week of August, feeling like a month-long absence
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Currently staying with close friends in Maine who have a 10-year-old daughter they've watched grow up since infancy
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Daughter Franny attending YMCA summer camp in Brooklyn/Maine, providing childcare relief


Personal Updates & Challenges (02:54 - 23:59)


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Ross's phone stolen and got hit by car while biking with Franny - described as 'tough couple weeks'
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Patrick has vasectomy scars from summer 2021 first Maine trip comparison
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Lost one Patreon subscriber (bot suspected) but acknowledging missed episode posting
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Patrick suffering from painful sty in eye, trying tea bag and eye drop treatments
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Ross has pinched nerve in neck from laptop posture issues


Content Creation Commitments (04:18 - 05:54)


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Patrick promising to post yoga classes for Patreon, specifically mentioning Tori as student
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Ross committed to posting comedy sets from recent weekends with Ian for 2026 hour development
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Planning comedy taping in 2026 with goals for Fran's own room and new car


Relationship & Friendship History (19:34 - 21:03)


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14 years together as couple, approaching 15-year milestone

* Hosts are traveling 'troubadours' and 'rubber tramps,' reflecting a unique podcast format inspired by Bob Dylan's terminology.




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Currently, there are seven Patreon subscribers supporting the podcast, encouraging more audience engagement through patreon.com/wehiredasitter.
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The host shared a personal story about having their phone stolen, hinting at future content but maintaining an optimistic tone.
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It marks the first solo vacation for the hosts in years, allowing for 33 hours of child-free time while staying close to in-laws.
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During the beach exploration on Block Island, three beaches were visited: West Beach (rocky), Mansion Beach (clear water), and Dory Cove Beach (private but rocky).
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Hosts discussed their married life since 2017, emphasizing a sense of family and reflecting on the liberation felt during their beach trip.
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Both hosts, age 44, addressed their physical fitness levels while hiking, expressing satisfaction despite feeling winded.

Overview








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Patrick and Ross are co-parenting in NYC, focusing this episode on first aid and safety after a bicycle accident involving Patrick and Franny.
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Franny attends a wilderness summer camp run by their friend Kirsten, with the family opting for bicycle transportation due to NYC traffic.
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The accident occurred after Patrick installed a new front basket on the bicycle, with an Uber passenger opening a car door into their path.
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Franny sustained three clean cuts requiring wound care, prompting Patrick to confront the Uber driver about safety violations.
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Neighbor Troy assisted post-accident, while another Uber driver provided ice water, highlighting community support.
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Patrick felt a mix of anger, shame, and guilt following the incident, and the original Uber driver expressed distress requiring consolation.
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Franny resumed bicycle transportation five days after the accident, indicating a positive recovery and return to routine.
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Patrick now rides at a slower pace, feeling skittish about safety in Brooklyn traffic following the incident.
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Patrick's recent comedy shows in Dallas received positive feedback, with plans to upload performances on Patreon to engage audiences.
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Personal reflections include childhood injury experiences, contributing to heightened parental fears, with a family vacation planned soon.

Overview






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Podcast nearing milestone of 200 episodes, with plans for celebratory content and highlight reels.
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Patrick announced upcoming comedy shows in Dallas (July 18-20) and Hanover (August 23, 2025), increasing audience engagement.
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Ross completed BLS CPR certification, meeting requirements for continuing doula work and enhancing professional qualifications.
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CPR training involved a diverse group, including a nun and nursing students, emphasizing varied participant backgrounds.
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A disruptive participant consumed alcohol during the CPR training, leading to removal for inappropriate behavior and inability to participate.
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Course content included the Heimlich maneuver (renamed abdominal thrusts) and chest compressions, important for lifesaving skills.
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Ross received certification via email after successful completion of open-book test, highlighting effective training methods.
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Technical issues arose from recording in 4K format, resulting in limited storage and a truncated episode.







 

Notes



️ Podcast Introduction & Announcements (00:00 - 02:56)


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Patrick announces upcoming comedy shows: Dallas, Texas (July 18-20) opening for Ian Finance and Hanover, Pennsylvania (August 23, 2025) headlining at Church of Satire
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Podcast has reached episode 197, approaching 200 episodes milestone with plans for celebration content
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Patreon mentioned for bonus content including stand-up sets from Oklahoma City shows


Personal Updates (01:23 - 07:47)


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Ross completed BLS CPR certification through American Heart Association for adult, child, and infant CPR as requirement for doula work
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Child attending summer camp in Brooklyn, allowing parents to record without hiring sitter
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Patrick mentions needing to get to a pool, having not been in water for nearly a week


CPR Training Experience - Main Discussion (09:22 - 16:38)


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Training held at co-working space with diverse group including nun, nursing students, and problematic participant
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Instructor Alba arrived 10 minutes late with two rescue dogs, despite strict punctuality warnings
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Derpy participant described as disruptive individual with blonde beard, gym shorts, claiming to be surgical assistant


Problematic Participant Behavior (18:10 - 32:11)


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Individual openly consumed beer during training, pouring tall boy into Poland Spring bottle
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Became progressively intoxicated throughout session, using excessive profanity in front of nun
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Made inappropriate comments about enjoying using CPR in medical situations
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Eventually removed from class for inability to perform required demonstrations due to intoxication


Training Content & Certification (25:08 - 33:31)


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Course covered Heimlich maneuver (now called abdominal thrusts due to family name removal) and chest compressions
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Open-book test format with advance question review to ensure participant success
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Ross successfully obtained certification via email following completion


Technical & Recording Issues (34:57 - 36:22)


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Phone storage became full due to recording in 4K format
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Episode cut short due to time constraints, with possibility of additional Patreon content

Overview






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Episode 196 of 'We Hired a Sitter for This' recorded on July 7, 2025, with hosts reflecting on a successful comedy performance despite a small audience.
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YouTube channel viewership is limited to 17 views, risking a drop to 14 due to early episode cursing.
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Discussed themes in the 'Ocean Gate' documentary, highlighting safety negligence in underwater exploration linked to wealthy individuals and current political commentary.
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Patrick reflecting on his 22-year NYC journey as a sober companion, emphasizing the personal significance of the Kosciusko Bridge.
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Current coaching role aids financial stability while aspiring to transition into comedy and filmmaking, with detailed plans for Patreon discussions.
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Bespoke Patreon strategy includes direct outreach to 6 current subscribers and varying content tiers, such as risk story performances and yoga class for remote subscribers.
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Ross actively participates in family responsibilities, involving quarterly toy and clothing donations, facing logistical challenges with drop-off scheduling.
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Nostalgic discussions about past experiences, including reflections on childhood visits to Long Island, enhance personal storytelling throughout the episode.
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Exploration of British reality TV shows sparks conversation about cultural preferences in entertainment.
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Highlighted the need for improved audio equipment knowledge, referencing techniques from LCD Sound System performances.







 

Notes



️ Episode Details & Technical Setup (01:35 - 08:52)


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Episode 196 of 'We Hired a Sitter for This' podcast recorded on Monday, July 7, 2025 at 9:30 PM.
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Host Ross performed comedy at Grizzly Pair for six people and felt successful as a comedian.
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Recording split format with intro together, then separate segments due to scheduling conflicts.
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YouTube channel has limited viewership - 17 views that could drop to 14 with early cursing.
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Audio equipment discussion regarding square microphone technique similar to LCD Sound System performances.


Personal Life & Entertainment (03:01 - 04:27)


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Hosts watched 'Naked Brits' dating show on HBO featuring uncensored British participants.
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Discussion of British reality TV preferences, including country home shows and wealth-focused programming.
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Patrick working multiple doula jobs while maintaining podcast schedule.
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Ross mentioned spitting habit of daughter Franny after teeth brushing.


Netflix Ocean Gate Documentary Analysis (05:48 - 07:17)


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Watched Ocean Gate documentary about 'liquefied billionaires' and narcissistic wealthy individuals.
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Documentary explores generationally wealthy submarine company owner who caused deaths through poor salesmanship and safety negligence.
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Political commentary connecting documentary themes to current leadership and 'death cult' politics.


Patrick's Early Morning Work Drive (10:30 - 19:46)


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Recording at 5:40 AM on Tuesday, July 8 while driving to Manhattan for client work.
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Working as sober companion/executive functioning coach for 9-10 years, helping clients with emotional disorders and neurodivergence.
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Crossing Kosciusko Bridge triggers 22-year reflection on New York City career journey since May 2003 college graduation.
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Overview






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Episode 195 of 'We Hired a Sitter for This' features Patrick recording solo due to Ross's injury; highlights adaptability in content creation.
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Zoron Momdani's win in the Democratic mayoral primary nomination sparked satirical takes from Patrick, showcasing engagement with current events.
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Patrick battled strep throat mid-week, demonstrating resilience by performing on the Risk Storytelling podcast, receiving positive feedback.
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Ross suffered a broken foot during a pool incident, impacting family mobility and leading to an early return from a trip.
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The family is navigating a childcare gap as they transition from school to summer camp, requiring full-time arrangements during the interim.
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Patrick reminisced about childhood summers at the Ulster County pool, creating connections between past and present experiences for his daughter.
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Family visit to Stap Dairy Farm allowed Franny to interact with various farm animals, enriching their time together with hands-on learning.
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Franny experienced a unique moment feeding domesticated deer, highlighting the importance of wildlife encounters in family outings.







 

Notes



️ Podcast Production Updates (00:00 - 01:33)


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Episode 195 of 'We Hired a Sitter for This' podcast being recorded solo by Patrick due to Ross's injury and scheduling conflicts.


️ Election Results (01:33 - 03:18)


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Zoron Momdani won the Democratic mayoral primary nomination, with Patrick making satirical commentary about the outcome.


Health Issues (03:18 - 04:42)


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Patrick contracted strep throat mid-week, initially mistaking symptoms for COVID before receiving proper diagnosis and antibiotics treatment.


Risk Podcast Performance (04:42 - 06:14)


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Patrick performed a story he's been telling since 2017 on the Risk Storytelling podcast Thursday night despite being ill, receiving positive feedback from Ross.


Family Injury (06:14 - 07:43)


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Ross broke her foot doing a cannonball in Aunt Nat's pool on Monday, requiring early return from upstate trip and affecting her mobility.


Childcare Gap (07:43 - 10:56)


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Family navigating week between end of school and start of summer camp, requiring full-time childcare coverage.


‍️ Ulster County Pool Visit (10:56 - 12:18)


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Patrick took Franny to the Ulster County pool in New Paltz, revisiting location from his childhood Summer Recreation program 35 years ago.


Childhood Memories (12:18 - 16:50)


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Detailed recollection of summer camp experiences including memorable encounters with bus driver Jack and his distinctive shower habits.


Family Activities Upstate (16:50 - 18:19)


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Visit to Stap Dairy Farm in Pine Bush where Franny interacted with farm animals including cows, goats, and kittens.


Wildlife Encounters (18:19 - 00:00)


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Franny hand-fed domesticated deer in Walden, facilitated by tenant who regularly feeds them Cheerios.







 

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Overview






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Patrick's daughter Franny consistently damages tissue boxes, prompting discussions on structured parenting approaches to address her behavior effectively.
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Notable demographic shift in NYC polling sites with younger, queer-appearing workers replacing elderly Latino volunteers, highlighting changing community dynamics.
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Voting error occurred when Patrick submitted an incomplete ballot, indicating potential confusion in the voting process ahead of the mayoral race.
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Strong support exists for progressive candidate Zoron, despite concerns over his qualifications, reflecting a desire for change in establishment politics.
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Significant criticism directed at Eric Adams' policies, particularly regarding his leniency towards Trump and ICE, underscoring an anti-establishment sentiment.
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Ross shared a personal recovery story reflecting on past financial irresponsibility, including spending student loan funds on non-essential items like a Ray-Ban and an iPod.
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Patrick's own experiences of irresponsible spending with work-study funds raises discussions about financial education and accountability among youth.
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Advocating for socialized medicine and universal healthcare, the conversation critiques the existing insurance system and its complexities in delivering care.
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Emphasis placed on wealth redistribution and collective care philosophy as counter to billionaire influence, highlighting economic justice themes.
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Podcast production notes included observations on dog Peggy's reactions to hosts, indicating the emotional impact of the recording process.

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Discussion centered on Brad Lander's arrest by ICE, raising concerns about his potential mayoral candidacy amid local political unrest.
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Commentary on Trump’s presidency led to fears surrounding an emerging fascist state in the USA, with a nuanced debate contrasting it against communism.
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Highlights from the Israel-Palestine conflict, criticizing US support for Israel amidst ongoing violence and family separations due to immigration policies.
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Noteworthy mention of feminist themes in the cult film 'Opus', praised for its strong storytelling despite low critical ratings.
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Ross and Patrick addressed personal impacts of perimenopause, blending humor with serious reflections on bodily changes.
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The conversation reflected on 12-step recovery programs as models of successful community support, emphasizing functional anarchy.
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Insights shared on community safety in predominantly Hispanic schools amidst current immigration policies and ICE tactics.
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The podcast is considering the addition of yoga classes on Patreon to enhance subscriber engagement, with a current count of only five subscribers.
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Advocacy for age limits in politics was discussed, suggesting no government officials over 50, except possibly Brad Lander at 53.
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Patrick described his work as a sober companion, highlighting a recent experience transporting a client to rehab

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Overview






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Ross recorded his first solo podcast episode (Episode 192) due to scheduling conflicts with Patrick, highlighting the challenges posed by their busy work lives.
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Ross taught a Tuesday yoga class and conducted a kids' session focused on mindfulness, reinforcing the importance of mental well-being in education.
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Ross's visit to the osteopath confirmed his spine condition is stable, showcasing the significance of regular medical care in maintaining health.
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Franny's upcoming 5th birthday on June 15th raises ethical dilemmas for Ross regarding convenience versus supporting larger corporations.
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Ross identifies as 'far left', emphasizing that ongoing social issues like racism and classism are rooted in the actions of wealthy elites.
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The Puerto Rican Day Parade was underwhelming for Ross, who desired more traditional cultural representation compared to previous years.
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Ross reflects on gratitude for leaving the fashion industry for more fulfilling work, particularly amidst the social upheaval of the pandemic.
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Financial goals discussed include the aim for both Ross and Patrick to shift from three jobs each to two, improving work-life balance.
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Plans to expand Patreon content with virtual yoga classes are intended to enhance community engagement while diversifying offerings.
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The podcast reflects on media narratives that often misrepresent community events, stressing the importance of critical media consumption.














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Overview




In this episode of the podcast, hosts Patrick and Ross share exciting show announcements, including upcoming performances in New York City, Dallas, and Portland, while also marking Pride month. Ross discusses her recent success in completing an exam for her lactation specialist training, which covers all approaches to feeding infants and highlights the challenges of medical terminology and calculations involved. The pair reflect on the rigorous certification processes for lactation counselors and therapists, emphasizing the need for continued education and the implications of various certifications. Additionally, Patrick shares a personal story about intervening in a tense conflict outside his daughter's school, prompting a discussion about biases and perceptions. The episode concludes with a reminder for listeners to support the show through Patreon for exclusive content and to attend their upcoming performances.





 

Notes





Show Announcements and Introduction (00:00 - 05:32)


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Patrick announced upcoming performances: June 26th in NYC for Risk podcast, July 18th weekend in Dallas opening for Ian Finance, and August in Portland, Maine opening for Rose Bud Baker
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Episode 191 introduction during Pride month
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Patrick mentioned attending a therapist conference as a videographer where he 'held space' for them
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Ross completed a lactation specialist exam, with Patrick expressing admiration for her accomplishments
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Discussion of the 'I-thou' relationship concept from Martin Buber about seeing partners as complete people rather than tools


Ross's Lactation Specialist Training (05:33 - 19:58)


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Ross took an exam for her integrative lactation and feeding specialist program that considers all forms of feeding (breast, formula, combination)
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Exam was open-note and taken in a co-working setting with a colleague
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Discussion of mathematical conversions required for baby feeding calculations (ounces to pounds)
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Ross and colleague struggled with the math portions, using an app called 'Breastfeed 2' to help with conversions
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Medical terminology challenges for those without medical backgrounds
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Discussion of contraindications for breastfeeding including HIV considerations in different contexts


Certification Reflections (19:59 - 25:36)


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Patrick reflected on certification requirements he observed at the therapist conference
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Ross discussed the extensive certification process for IBCLCs (International Board Certified Lactation Counselors)
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Discussion about how some certifications require extensive education but don't grant prescribing privileges
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Ross's interview interruption at approximately 00:24:01
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Patrick mentioned being added to the Manhattan Birth Doula Directory


Patrick's School Conflict Story (25:37 - 39:05)


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Next day follow-up with Patrick alone while Ross is at yoga
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Patrick described a conflict he witnessed outside his daughter's school
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Detailed account of a verbal altercation between a Black woman and a Latin American man
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Patrick intervened to prevent physical conflict while his family proceeded to the school
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The woman accused the man of using a racial slur; the man was upset about his phone being hit
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Patrick reflected on his own biases in how he perceived and handled the situation
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Overview






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Commitment to Dog Ownership: Hosts reflect on their bond with dog Peggy; highlight long-term responsibilities and emotional impact. Discuss preparing for parenthood through experiences with Peggy; emphasize the emotional weight of pet mortality.

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Parenting Challenges with Franny: Analyze behavioral issues, including emotional outbursts and evolving tantrums as she ages. Discuss strategies for managing parental stress, maintaining calm, and the importance of boundaries while validating children's feelings.

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Parenting Philosophies: Host’s focus on emotional safety, open communication, and non-punitive discipline methods. Share personal stories on conflict repair with children, addressing overstimulation, and learning to meet a child's needs without fear-based tactics.

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Milestones and Family Growth: Celebrate significant milestones including Peggy’s 'gotcha-versary' and Franny’s fifth birthday. Reflect on changes in family dynamics and express pride in Franny's development and communication skills. Close with gratitude and invite listener feedback.



Action Item: Discuss concepts of pet mortality and family planning with Franny.





 

Notes



Dog Ownership Reflections and Family Dynamics (00:00 - 09:29)


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Hosts reflect on their long-term commitment to their dog Peggy, discussing the responsibilities, lifestyle changes, and emotional bonds that come with being 'dog people'.
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They share anecdotes about Peggy's behavior, her adjustment to their home, and how she has become an integral part of the family, even preparing them for parenthood.
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Discussion includes the emotional impact of a pet's limited lifespan and the contemplation of how to handle Peggy's eventual passing.


‍‍ Parenting Challenges and Child Development (09:29 - 18:05)


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The hosts discuss recent behavioral challenges with their daughter Franny, particularly her emotional outbursts, power struggles, and the evolving nature of her tantrums as she grows older.
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They analyze the difference between genuine emotional overwhelm in younger children and more performative or strategic tantrums as children mature.
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The conversation covers the emotional toll on parents, strategies for maintaining calm, and the importance of setting boundaries while allowing children to express big feelings.


Parenting Philosophies and Repair (18:05 - 25:43)


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The hosts reflect on their own upbringings and how they strive to parent differently, emphasizing emotional safety, open communication, and boundary-setting over punitive measures.
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They share personal stories about discipline, emotional repair after conflict, and the cyclical nature of parent-child dynamics, including moments of affection and reconciliation after outbursts.
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There is discussion about the challenges of overstimulation, the desire to avoid yelling, and the ongoing process of learning how to respond to their child's needs without resorting to fear-based tactics.


Milestones, Growth, and Closing Thoughts (25:43 - 27:07)


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The hosts mark significant milestones: Peggy's six-year 'gotcha-versary' and Franny's upcoming fifth birthday, reflecting on the passage of time and the changes in their family.
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They express deep love and pride for their daughter, acknowledging her advanced communication skills and the complexities of raising a bright, emotionally expressive child.

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On this episode:






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Balance & Mental Health: Patrick emphasizes the benefits of cycling over driving in NYC for mental health. Highlights personal challenges of juggling multiple jobs and family commitments, stressing the importance of self-care.

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Artistic Influence: Names Jesse Wells, Fiona Apple, and Edan as key inspirations for his work. Discusses how music and lyrics serve as a creative outlet, especially after the emotional strain of promoting his comedy special.

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Community & Future Plans: Recaps recent comedy shows in Tennessee, Atlanta, and Rochester, expressing gratitude for support from family and the comedy community. Plans to develop a new story for Risk podcast and consider creating a comedy special based on personal experiences.








 

Notes





️ Podcast Introduction & Personal Updates (00:00 - 07:45)


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Patrick opens the episode solo, sharing anecdotes about parenting, daily routines, and his work as a wellness and executive functioning coach.
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Describes the benefits of cycling over driving in New York City for mental health and serenity.
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Reflects on the challenges of balancing multiple jobs and family responsibilities, especially after recent travel and performances.


Artistic Inspiration & Creative Process (07:45 - 14:06)


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Patrick discusses the importance of identifying personal artistic influences, naming Jesse Wells, Fiona Apple, and Edan as current top inspirations.
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Explains how music and lyrics provide catharsis and creative fuel, especially when feeling overstimulated by podcasts and pop culture.
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Mentions a recent emotional hangover from promoting his comedy special and the need to refill his creative well with new influences.


Reading Habits & Literary Interests (14:06 - 17:10)


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Shares frustration about being locked out of a Kindle book and pivots to reading detective noir, inspired by a podcast taping with Ronan Hirshberg and Sam Morrill.
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Reflects on the value of consuming both high art and 'trash' literature for creative balance.


Comedy Shows & Future Projects (17:10 - 21:43)


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Recaps recent comedy performances in Tennessee, Atlanta, and Rochester, including a guest set at the Comedy Catch and a recovery conference show.
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Expresses gratitude for support from family and fellow comedians, highlighting the importance of community and mentorship.
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Discusses plans to develop a new story for the Risk podcast and contemplates producing a new comedy special based on personal experiences.


Family Segment & Personal Reflections (21:43 - 32:42)


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Patrick and Ross record a late-night segment, reflecting on their exhaustion from work and parenting.
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Lighthearted discussion about reality TV shows (Below Deck, Housewives, Love Hotel) and the escapism they provide.
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Share humorous anecdotes about travel fatigue, post-flight routines, and missing each other during busy periods.
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Acknowledge the recent passing of Aunt Helen, expressing love for family and the importance of staying connected.


️ Pop Culture, Industry Gossip & Stand-Up Experiences (32:42 - ...

Hi it's really Patrick writing up here on the top. The AI summary is below. Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for listening. We appreciate it! If you haven't yet considered joining our patreon, here's the page with all the info: https://patreon.com/wehiredasitter


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Lastly, I wanted to share the links to my special again. It's on all the platforms and from what I understand I make a little more money if you buy it or rent it on Vimeo. I have zero clue if you'd then be able to watch it on a smart TV but maybe you use Vimeo anyway? I appreciate you checking it out, whatever service you try!!



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Episode 188 Overview






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Podcast episode 188 recorded solo by Patrick Holbert; Ross only briefly present. Originated on YouTube in 2017 as 'Who Cares About Ross and Patrick.' Plans to upload more full episodes and comedy sets to Patreon/iTunes.

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Upcoming shows include Chattanooga, TN (secret show), Kingsport, TN (recovery convention), Atlanta, GA (Onward Theater). Patrick recording story for Risk podcast live show on June 26th in NYC; emphasizes comedy is accessible, despite 'sober comedian' label.

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Recap of travel to Rochester to open for Ian Fidance included canceled shows and new material creation. Performance pay affected (
500 planned,
100 actual due to cancellations). Patrick faced allergies impacting performance, emphasizing need for family support during busy schedules and travel. Encouragement for Patreon support and feedback on content desired. Promoted documentary 'Tom Portrait of a Comedian' with screenings nationwide.










 

Notes





️ Podcast Updates & Format Changes (00:00 - 04:12)


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Podcast episode 188 recorded with Patrick Holbert solo due to Ross's unavailability; Ross briefly appears to say hello before leaving for errands.
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Show originally started as 'Who Cares About Ross and Patrick' on YouTube in 2017, later became a podcast.
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Episodes are available on YouTube, Patreon (full episodes), and iTunes (audio).
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Patrick considers uploading more full episodes and comedy sets to Patreon and iTunes.


Upcoming Shows & Promotions (04:12 - 08:56)


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Patrick is performing at several secret and recovery-focused comedy shows: Chattanooga, TN (secret show), Kingsport, TN (recovery convention), and Atlanta, GA (Onward Theater for Stand Up for Recovery).
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Patrick is recording a story for the Risk podcast live show on June 26th at Caveat, NYC, and encourages listeners to buy tickets.
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Patrick discusses the challenge of being labeled a 'sober comedian' and emphasizes his comedy is accessible to all audiences.


Travel & Performance Recap (08:56 - 13:01)


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Patrick recaps his recent trip to Rochester to open for Ian Fidance,

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COVID-19 Recovery & Family Health: Ross recovering from COVID-19; family quarantine ongoing. Franny & Patrick tested negative. Dog Peggy had stomach issue—vet visit led to unexpected X-ray, but charges were reduced after no serious issue found.

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Veterinary Costs Impact: Recurring expenses for Peggy's arthritis treatment; unexpected vet bills led to using a specialized credit card. Highlighted financial strain of pet ownership; vet provided discount due to situation.

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Balancing Responsibilities: Ross unable to meet a doula client due to illness; arranged alternative assistance. Patrick increased parenting role, attending school events and spending time with Franny. Discussion on managing work and family commitments during quarantine.

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Customer Service Advocacy: Patrick faced technical issues during a movie outing; escalated the situation to management resulting in compensation (movie passes). Emphasized challenges in advocating for consumer rights in public settings.

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Podcast Content Development: Ross and Patrick plan for Patreon content including cooking videos and stand-up. Appreciation expressed for patrons; discussed editing processes using iMovie.

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Episode Title Decision: 'Cultural Casserole' chosen as episode title, reflecting a metaphor for shared family experiences. Reminder established to note this title for future reference.








 

Notes



COVID-19 and Family Health Updates (00:00 - 13:16)


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Ross is recovering from COVID-19, diagnosed four days ago, with symptoms appearing rapidly.
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Family is quarantining together; Franny and Patrick have tested negative and remain symptom-free.
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Dog (Peggy) developed a stomach issue; vet visit included shots, a checkup, and an unexpected X-ray due to a perceived mass, causing financial and emotional stress.
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Vet ultimately reduced charges after no serious issue was found, but recommended sending X-ray to radiology for further review.


Veterinary Costs and Financial Planning (04:51 - 13:16)


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Discussion of recurring veterinary expenses for Peggy's arthritis shots and additional vaccinations.
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Unexpected vet costs led to use of a specialized credit card for pet care, highlighting the financial burden of pet ownership.
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Vet provided a discount due to the unexpected nature of the X-ray and lack of serious findings.


‍‍ Parenting, Work, and Household Management (16:25 - 27:20)


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Ross and Patrick discuss balancing parenting, work, and household responsibilities during illness and quarantine.
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Ross unable to meet doula client due to COVID-19, arranges for another doula to assist, and manages multiple work-related calls without direct compensation.
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Patrick takes on more parenting duties, including attending school events and spending quality time with Franny.


Movie Outings and Customer Service Issues (28:49 - 43:38)


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Patrick recounts attending a school movie night and a commercial movie theater outing with Franny.
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At the theater, technical issues with sound led to a frustrating experience, requiring Patrick to escalate the issue to management and corporate, eventually receiving movie passes as compensation.
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