In this episode, Jack and Dave discuss the complexities of healthcare funding in the U.S., focusing on the Individual Coverage Health Reimbursement Arrangement (ICHRA) and its implications for employers and employees.
The discussion highlights the challenges posed by the Affordable Care Act, the political dynamics surrounding healthcare funding, and the potential for ICRA to disrupt traditional healthcare models positively. They also explore the role of technology in managing healthcare plans and the investment opportunities arising from these changes.
Episode 9.
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In this episode, Jack and Dave break down recent headlines showing the largest jump in employer health insurance costs in 15 years.
They explain what’s really driving those increases—from CMS reimbursement structures and GLP-1 drugs to the perverse incentives baked into insurance commissions—and why Obamacare locked small businesses into an unsustainable system.
The conversation explores how regulations designed to protect workers end up stifling innovation, entrenching large corporations, and penalizing small employers.
They close by discussing the rise of self-funded plans and the growing movement toward direct, market-driven healthcare.
Episode 8.
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In this conversation, Dave and Jack discuss the many responses Dave got on his viral LinkedIn post stating his belief that excess carbohydrate consumption is the primary driver of the obesity crisis (this post).
They discuss the importance of simplicity in nutrition and fitness, emphasizing low-carb diets and their effectiveness for weight management. They explore evidence from elite athletes on ketogenic diets, the role of dietitians, and the complexities of individual dietary needs. The discussion also touches on the psychological aspects of weight management, the evolution of dietary choices, and misconceptions about fiber and gut health.
They conclude by addressing hydration and electrolyte balance on low-carb diets, highlighting the need for a patient-centered approach in dietary recommendations.
Episode 7.
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Jack and Dave break down some of the most misunderstood areas of weight loss: the real role of exercise, why “calories in, calories out” oversimplifies the problem, and how satiety, especially from protein, drives sustainable results.
(00:00) Intro
Setting up today’s topics: exercise, calories, satiety, and fiber.
(01:15) Exercise and Weight Loss
Why exercise is essential for health but overrated as a weight loss tool.
(06:40) Fitness Industry vs. Medicine
How obesity was framed as a wellness problem until recently recognized as a disease.
(15:56) Processed Foods and Corn Syrup
The 1970s food environment shift that fueled the obesity epidemic.
(21:14) You Can’t Out-Exercise Carbs
Insulin resistance and why average people can’t burn off a bad diet.
(26:01) Calories In/Calories Out Debate
True but incomplete — why low-fat dieting and calorie math fail most patients.
(29:58) Protein vs. Fiber for Satiety
Protein as the real driver of fullness, and why “just eat salads” doesn’t work.
(36:39) Sugar, Cravings, and Hormones
How sugar hijacks the brain, why fat + carbs together are dangerous, and the role of ghrelin in hunger.
Episode #06.
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In this episode, Jack and Dave dive deep into the obesity crisis, exploring why rates have soared in the U.S. and globally, and what that means for public health and healthcare costs.
Dave shares his clinical perspective on carbohydrates as the central driver of obesity, why traditional dietary guidelines may have backfired, and how his patients respond to low-carb and carnivore-style interventions.
They also wrestle with the tension between population-level nutrition advice and the realities of individual health. This conversation cuts past diet fads to examine the structural and clinical roots of America’s weight problem.
Topic list:
Intro and framing: obesity crisis in America
Obesity stats, healthcare costs, military readiness
Clinical view: conditions and cancer risks
Low-fat diet era and carb surge
Core thesis: obesity driven by carbs
Policy, industry influence, disinformation
Obesity as symptom vs. root cause
Carbs are carbs: all become glucose
Two-week carnivore challenge results
Body makes its own glucose
Insulin, fat storage, diabetes progression
High-fructose corn syrup and processed food
Individual vs. population diet differences
Athletes and carb-loading
Carbs as performance enhancer
Why dietary shifts feel radical
Exercise, energy balance, “eat less, move more”
Carbs as addictive and inflammatory
Closing takeaways: carbs unnecessary, obesity food-driven
Episode #5.
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ReforMedicine Direct Pay Primary Care
In this episode, Jack and Dave discuss the launch and very early days of Dave's direct pay practice.
TOPICS
He shares the pivotal moment when a Medical Economics Journal article about direct pay healthcare sparked his transformation, walking through the essential business planning phase that preceded launching his independent practice.
From writing business plans and securing loans to navigating non-compete agreements and choosing the perfect strip mall location, Dave reveals the practical steps and strategic decisions that turned his vision into reality.
Learn how he leveraged existing relationships, embraced the E-Myth principles, and built a sustainable direct primary care model that prioritized both patient care and business viability.
Episode #04.
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ReforMedicine Direct Pay Primary Care
In this episode, Jack and Dave dive into the economics, culture, and structure of primary care in America.
They unpack why so few medical students choose family medicine, how RVUs shape physician incentives, and the burnout that stems from misaligned systems.
Dave shares why he left a major health system to launch a direct pay primary care clinic and what he’d tell other physicians who feel stuck.
If you’ve ever wondered why it’s so hard to get good primary care, this episode connects the dots.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(00:29) Challenges in Primary Care
(01:36) Understanding Primary Care Specialties
(03:15) Family Medicine vs. Internal Medicine and Pediatrics
(05:12) The Role of OB-GYN in Primary Care
(06:48) Shortage of Primary Care Physicians
(07:39) Personal Journey into Primary Care
(10:13) Financial and Structural Issues in Primary Care
(12:09) Impact of Big Systems on Primary Care
(18:25) The Role of Nurse Practitioners and Physician Assistants
(19:16) Patient Perception and Systemic Issues
(26:10) Primary Care Physician Burnout
(28:44) Understanding Burnout in Healthcare
(29:23) Impact of the Affordable Care Act
(30:07) Exploring Direct Pay Primary Care
(30:46) Personal Journey and Challenges
(32:24) Financial Considerations and Family Impact
(33:37) Negotiating Contracts and Non-Compete Clauses
(40:00) The Importance of Market Understanding
(42:17) Building Trust and Transparency in Practice
(46:07) Creating a Sustainable Practice Model
(47:51) Future Discussions & Outro
Episode #03.
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Nearly half of all Americans get their health insurance through work. But most employers don’t realize they’re running a second business: healthcare.
In this episode, Jack and Dave discuss how employer-sponsored insurance actually works—from fully funded plans to self-funded strategies—and why so many companies are bleeding cash without realizing it.
They talk about the hidden role of PBMs, the rising trend of direct primary care, and how smart employers are taking control of their costs without sacrificing quality.
Topics include:
This episode is for CFOs, HR leaders, or people just trying to understand their own health plan better.
Episode #02.
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In this episode, Jack and Dave discuss the implications of the One Big Beautiful Bill, healthcare policy, particularly in relation to direct primary care and health savings accounts (HSAs).
They explore the changes that allow HSAs to be used for direct primary care memberships and the significance of on-site employee clinics.
The discussion also touches on the broader implications of government involvement in healthcare and the future of direct primary care as a viable alternative to traditional healthcare systems.
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healthcare, policy, direct primary care, HSA, legislation, employee clinics, insurance, healthcare reform, government involvement, healthcare costs
Episode #001.