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The Eight Mindsets
Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer
38 episodes
11 hours ago
The Eight Mindsets Podcast considers the learning moments in world events, and how we can apply these to our organizations to improve compliance, performance, and organizational culture. The twist is that we use creativity, neuroscience and our legal and compliance experience to unwind real world events to bring you the learning moments that you can take back to your work and personal lives. Our goal is to make legal and compliance accessible to anyone and to empower leaders to train and communicate more effectively when it comes to compliance or anything critical to your organisation.
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The Eight Mindsets Podcast considers the learning moments in world events, and how we can apply these to our organizations to improve compliance, performance, and organizational culture. The twist is that we use creativity, neuroscience and our legal and compliance experience to unwind real world events to bring you the learning moments that you can take back to your work and personal lives. Our goal is to make legal and compliance accessible to anyone and to empower leaders to train and communicate more effectively when it comes to compliance or anything critical to your organisation.
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The Eight Mindsets
From Ethics to Action: Navigating Australia’s Tranche 2 AML Reforms

Welcome to the Eight Mindsets Podcast with Nicole Rose and her co host Jason Meer, where Nicole and Jason delve into the Eight Mindsets that bring about great compliance leadership.


In this episode, Nicole goes solo with AML expert Wendy Hitchins to break down Australia’s Tranche 2 AML/CTF reforms—what’s changing, who’s affected (lawyers, accountants, real estate agents), and what you need to do right now to be compliant by 1 July 2026.

Key takeaways:

  • Understand designated services

  • Learn about suspicious matter reporting

  • Why ethics and systems matter more than ever

  • What happens if you don’t comply

🔗 Want to go deeper?
Sign up for our complimentary AML & Ethics webinar:
https://www.arevolution.org/aml-ethics-webinar



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1 month ago
37 minutes 55 seconds

The Eight Mindsets
The Eight Mindsets Interview with Tom Hardin - After the Wire: The Tipper X Files

Welcome to The Eight Mindsets Podcast with Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer.

In this episode, we sit down with Tom Hardin—better known as Tipper X, the former hedge fund analyst who became one of the most prolific informants in securities fraud history.

Tom wore a wire for the FBI and helped expose 20 of Wall Street’s biggest players.

But this isn’t just a story about headlines—it’s about real human drivers, resilience, and the lessons compliance leaders and managers need to hear. Tom shares what truly drove his decisions (spoiler: it wasn’t financial), what it was like to wear a wire, and why “even the best compliance training wouldn’t have stopped me.

We unpack:

  • What would have stopped him

  • Practical advice for improving compliance training

  • The human cost of misconduct

  • The path from scandal to speaking globally on ethics and risk

  • His new book, Wired on Wall Street

This episode is a must-listen for sales teams, executives in high-risk environments, compliance professionals, and front-line employees who want to understand how small decisions can snowball into massive consequences.

 

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2 months ago
48 minutes 47 seconds

The Eight Mindsets
Eight Mindsets Podcast: Know Your Audience (KYA): The Key to Compliance Engagement

This episode is an exclusive reading from Nicole's book, TOLD: How In-House Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction, and Transform Organizations.

Compliance professionals know all about Know Your Customer (KYC)—but what about Know Your Audience (KYA)? If your policies and training are being ignored, it’s not because they aren’t important—it’s because they aren’t connecting.

🚀 In this episode, I read from Chapter 1 and cover:

  • The missing focus in compliance—why policies and training often fail.
  • A real-life story of how a single text message revealed a compliance blind spot.
  • How AIM (Audience Initiated Messaging) and Reverse Empathy can transform compliance training.
  • The difference between adequate and effective compliance—and why most programs fall short.


📖 Want to read ahead? To get early access to the book and the course, get on the list https://untoldcompliance.com/told-book/


To attend the session Nicole is running at the end of March (25 UK and 26 Australia) Measuring Compliance Effectiveness (there are two session) you can register at https://www.riskywomen.org/2025/02/rev-up-measuring-compliance-effectiveness-online-26-mar-2025/

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7 months ago
23 minutes 57 seconds

The Eight Mindsets
Eight Mindsets Podcast: Intro to Told How in-house Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction and Transform Organizations

In this episode of the Eight Mindsets Podcast, Nicole shares the introduction to her new book titled "Told: How in-house Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction and Transform Organizations ". She shares her philosophy that policies are ineffective in isolation and emphasizes the importance of action. Join Nicole as she shares the introduction in her new book that explores the intersection of effective communication, ethical leadership, and the practical steps needed to implement meaningful change within organizations.


To get early access to the book and the course, get on the list https://untoldcompliance.com/told-book/

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9 months ago
23 minutes 28 seconds

The Eight Mindsets
Eight Mindsets Interview with Roderick Noordhoek: Beyond Compliance: Ethics – It's Not Meant to Make Things Easier!

Beyond Compliance: Ethics – It's Not Meant to Make Things Easier!

“In law a man is guilty when he violates the rights of others. In ethics he is guilty if he only thinks of doing so.”   Immanuel Kant 

About the podcast:

The Eight Mindsets Podcast, hosted by Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance (Australia) and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education (USA), combines legal expertise with creative compliance, ethics and risk insights.

The podcast features conversations with organizational leaders, exploring how they navigate real-world challenges using creativity, neuroscience, and ethics and compliance to drive better performance and culture.

Our mission is to make legal and compliance topics accessible, empowering leaders to train and communicate more effectively on the issues that matter most to their organizations.

About This Episode:

  • In this episode, we sit down with Roderick Noordhoek, Head of the Global Ethics at Rabobank. Together, we explore the critical role of ethics in shaping sustainable business practices, distinguishing it from compliance, and navigating the complexities of global business environments.

    We discuss

    • The difference between ethics and compliance and why ethics reaches deeper into the heart of an organization.
    • How global organizations balance universal principles with regional cultural, economic, and legal nuances.
    • The challenges of integrating ethics into decision-making without compromising agility or stakeholder trust.
    • Why ethics is essential in driving sustainability, even when the solutions aren’t simple.
    • Insights into fostering meaningful dialogue that aligns business actions with organizational values.

    What are the Eight Mindsets?

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat

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    12 months ago
    27 minutes 49 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    From Silence to Safeguard: Pav Gill on Empowering Compliance

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.

    Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.


  • About This Episode:
  • In this episode, we sit down with Pav Gill, the whistleblower from the Wirecard scandal, to explore one of the most profound shifts in compliance leadership today. Pav shares his personal journey of exposing Wirecard’s multibillion-dollar fraud, offering invaluable insights into leadership accountability and compliance empowerment.

    Key insights include:

    • How Wirecard's leadership failures and compliance shortcomings led to its collapse.
    • The importance of creating strong, independent compliance functions that safeguard organizations.
    • Pav's essential advice for legal and compliance teams: stay independent, build strong internal channels, and never compromise on ethics.

    Pav’s story is a powerful reminder that when compliance is sidelined, ethical blind spots can grow—and why proactive leadership is essential for a healthy corporate culture.

      About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind. If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    1 year ago
    28 minutes 21 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Podcast Series: Part 4 of 4: Business and Values Led Compliance with a Small c

    Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture?

    Part 4: Business and values led compliance with a small c


    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States. 

    Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.


    About this series:

    In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach.

    Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions: 

    1.  Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations?
    2. Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?   
    3. Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement? 
    4. What alternative approaches should we consider? 
    5. How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success? 

      About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    1 year ago
    27 minutes 57 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Podcast Series: Part 3: Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? The Ethics Policy Chronicles

    Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture?

    Part 3: The Ethics Policy Chronicles


    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States. 

    Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.


    About this series:

    In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach.

    Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions: 

    1.  Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations?
    2. Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?   
    3. Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement? 
    4. What alternative approaches should we consider? 
    5. How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success? 

      About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    1 year ago
    24 minutes 58 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Podcast Series: Part 2 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? When “Compliance” is a bad word

    Part 2 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? When “Compliance” is a bad word About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States. 

    Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.


    About this series:

    In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach.

    Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions: 

    1.  Has Compliance assumed far to greater a role in our organisations?
    2. Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?   
    3. Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement? 
    4. What alternative approaches should we consider? 
    5. How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success? 

      About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    1 year ago
    25 minutes 52 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Podcast Series: Part 1 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture? A Multicultural Approach to Ethics

    Part 1 Is Big C Compliance Weakening Culture?

    A Multicultural Approach to Ethics

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function?

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States. 

    Based on their conversations with global business leaders, they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions.


    About this series:

    In this 4-part series we are joined by Ruth Steinholtz. Ruth brings more than 30 years of experience as a corporate lawyer with a unique multicultural and multidisciplinary approach.

    Together we delve into the following thought-provoking questions: 

    1.  Has Compliance assumed far too greater a role in our organisations?
    2. Does the intense focus on compliance hinder rather than help organizations?   
    3. Are the abundance of policies, procedures, and related activities causing employee disengagement? 
    4. What alternative approaches should we consider? 
    5. How can we pivot towards strategies more conducive to success? 

      
    About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    1 year ago
    23 minutes 19 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Ethics Madness 2024

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    What mindsets are critical to leading the hearts, minds and behaviours of any team? What are the keys to success to actually moving the needle, as a leader of a business – or of a legal, compliance, risk or HR function? 

    The answer is a distinctive multidisciplinary approach based in business and brain science — that’s what The Eight Mindsets is all about.

    The podcast is hosted by the founders of The Eight Mindset initiative — both practicing lawyers, both creative compliance consultants, and both successful business leaders:  Nicole Rose of Untold Compliance in Australia, and Jason Meyer of LeadGood Education in the United States.  Based on their conversations with global business leaders, each week they incorporate Law, Leadership, Compliance, Ethics, Training, HR, Risk, Management, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education, Entrepreneurship and brain science into their discussions. 

    Plus each episode features recommended action items and the Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

    In this episode… 

    March is the time for madness – and Ethics Madness is back for its 2024 edition.

    Ethics Madness is Jason Meyer’s nearly-annual exploration of the intersection of ethics and sports, in celebration of the NCAA basketball championships. 

    This year, Jason is joined again by Tom Fox, “The Voice of Compliance” and founder of the Compliance Podcast Network.

    Jason and Tom talk trash about ethical challenges in the world of sports, and about sports as a source of lessons for compliance programs and business leaders. This year, each topic is on the clock, so things move briskly! Among the buzzer beaters they attempt this year:

    • The NCAA and NILs — plus picking brackets as an exercise in procedural justice

    • The PGA and LIV — and when “tone at the top” doesn’t work

    • MLB rule changes — and the Mindset of the Audience

    • The NFL and CTE — every fan’s ethical conundrum

    • Travis Kelce, Caitlin Clark, and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur

    • Our picks for “One Slimy Moment”

    • And the Compliance Anthem of the Week! (WINNING!)

    Sports fan or not, listen in to the fun of our annual special edition!

    About the Eight Mindsets:

    The Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindsets that we always focus on are the Mindset of the Audience and the Mindset of the Entrepreneur – keeping your audience, your objectives, resourcefulness and innovation front of mind.  To learn more about the Eight Mindsets, simply visit and subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole Rose or Jason Meyer on LinkedIn.

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

    Resources: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ethics-madness-special-womens-world-cup-power-example-jason-meyer/?trackingId=bQLNcn6DTWOnjUFMx6OCdQ%3D%3D

    Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eightmindsets/message



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    1 year ago
    1 hour 56 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    Compliance transcending the Compliance team - The Eight Mindsets interview with Ekta Singh

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

    About this episode:

    In this episode, we take a panel discussion approach to the show and discuss how to take compliance outside of the Compliance team.

    Ekta Singh, Regional Head of Compliance at ShuttleOne, highlights the importance of gaining trust and belief through emotional connection and vulnerability in communication and training. “the training and communication should establish a connection with the audience and provide a real experience that builds trust and shows that everyone is in it together.”   

    The ingredients we discussed behind successful sessions, include:

    Trainers walking away feeling enriched having received something back from the audience.

    The learning experience starting before the session even begins; and

    Understanding the pain points of the audience and connecting with them on a personal level.


    Come on the show

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with Nicole or Jason LinkedIn or contact nicole@nicolerose.co

    Follow us on:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.


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    2 years ago
    53 minutes 44 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Ethics Madness 2023

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

    In this episode… 

    Ethics Madness is back, baby!

    Welcome to the 2023 edition of Jason Meyer’s nearly-annual exploration of the intersection of ethics and sports, in celebration of the NCAA basketball championships. 

    This year, Jason is joined again by Tom Fox, the Texas-based FCPA guru and “The Voice of Compliance,” for this special joint presentation of The Eight Mindsets Podcast and Tom’s Compliance Podcast Network.

    Jason and Tom talk trash about ethical challenges in the world of sports, and about sports as an object lesson for ethics and compliance programs and professionals. Among the topics they attempt this year:

    • Alabama Basketball: Can you love the play but hate the player (can you love the art but not the artist)? And was this any way to build a culture?

    • Coach Rick Pitino and the Houston Astros: What does it take to be redeemed for past misconduct?

    • Kansas Coach Bill Self: Some personal lessons in compliance.

    • DEI in higher education: Schools are walking the tightrope. 

    • The ESG Rule: So I can bet on sports, but I can’t bet on compliant companies? Huh?

    Correction:  In his discussion of the shooting incident involving Alabama players, Jason Meyer referred to the victim as a man. Jamea Harris was female. We regret the error.

    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: nicolerosesydney@outlook.com

    Follow us on:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat

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    2 years ago
    52 minutes 49 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    Eight Mindsets Interview with Veronique Porter: The Problem with Well-Meaning and Well-Intentioned in the Workplace

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

    About this episode:

    Nicole Rose speaks with Veronique Porter about one what diversity, equity and real inclusion means at work. They discuss:

    • what diversity really is. You maybe surprised at the answer.
    • the importance of intellectual curiosity as opposed to caricaturing people for who we think they are
    • what is micro-agression and why it can be so damaging in the workplace
    • why people really fear speaking up 
    • what boards should consider as part of their interview process
    • why the policy of 'the best person for the job' is not necessarily being inclusive and diverse and what is

    To learn more about Veronique and her work you can connect and follow her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veroniqueporter/

    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

    Follow us on:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    3 years ago
    1 hour 11 minutes 43 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Interview with Hugh Bigwood: From Grousebeater to Compliance Officer – Evolution in Action

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.

    About this episode:

    "Compliance is the conscience of the people in the organisation". For anyone who has worked with or knows Hugh Bigwood, you will not be surprised by this quote from Hugh.  Hugh has been a Chief Compliance Officer, a General Counsel and a trusted adviser to Boards and Executives. His experience includes a variety of legal and compliance roles in a variety of industries from pharmaceutical and medical technology to the food industry to mining and even a stint as a pension trustee. In this episode, Nicole and Hugh chat about:

    • The real role of compliance and the difference between legal and compliance  
    • The future of compliance and in particular speak out hotlines
    • The ROI of compliance for the business
    • How to support small and medium size companies with compliance – i.e., making it accessible regardless of budget and number of employees

    And in typical Hugh fashion, he also gives his own perspective and tactics for developing a successful, innovative compliance function. These include:

    • The DIY of compliance – try it and see!
    • The ‘love it or hate it’ test for training
    • Team building and the strength of suffering together
    • Why perfection is the enemy of good

    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

    Follow us on:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    Music for the podcast is “Tropicana” by Soundroll, via Uppbeat.

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    3 years ago
    52 minutes 36 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    Ethics Madness 2022 !!

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. Plus the recommended action items and Compliance Anthem of the Week, that have made the Eight Mindsets Podcast so popular.


    About this episode:

    It’s the union of basketball and ethics! It’s the intersection of March Madness (a term now available to both genders) and corporate compliance! It’s a joint episode of two popular podcasts! It’s Ethics Madness 2022! 


    Listen in as Tom Fox of the Greetings and Felicitations podcast and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindsets Podcast talk sports, talk shop, and score a veritable triple-double of practical lessons, case studies, and just plain fun.

    Among the topics we cover in Ethics Madness 2022:

    o  Formula 1… and procedural justice

    o  Russian Figure Skaters… and organizational reputation

    o  Women’s March Madness… and DEI

    o  Michigan v. Wisconsin… and the culture-building power of ritual


    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

    Follow us on:

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

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    3 years ago
    51 minutes 2 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Interview with Kristy Grant-Hart Part 2: The Human Element of Compliance

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

    About this episode:

    This week we have Kristy Grant-Hart on the show. In this Part 2 of the three part series, we focus on the compliance department. We discuss:

    ·  Whether the “wildly effective compliance officer” is an entrepreneur

    ·  Why compliance officers should study sales techniques

    ·  The 4 primary motivators that succeeded for Kristy in all the countries where she has worked

    ·  Why adult learning must begin with, “Why does this matter to the learner”

    ·  Why compliance officers should be leading ESG

    About Kristy and how to get in touch

    Kristy is founder and CEO of Spark Compliance Consulting and author of a series of books for compliance professionals, beginning with “How to Be a Wildly Effective Compliance Officer.” She has also worked as an actor, Chief Compliance Officer, and adjunct professor. She opened her own publishing company, Brentham House Publishing.

    You can get in touch with and find Kristy at:

    ·  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristygranthart ·  Email: kgranthart@sparkcompliance.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/KristyGrantHart

    About The Eight Mindsets and your hosts Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. Learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    To get in contact with Nicole and find out more about her work go to www.nicolerose.co or LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nicolerose2018

    To get in contact with Jason and find out more about how he can support your organisation go to www.leadgood.org

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

    Follow us on:

    ·  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    ·  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

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    3 years ago
    16 minutes 4 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Interview with Kristy Grant-Hart Part 1: Influences

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

    About this episode:

    This week we have Kristy Grant-Hart on the show. In this Part 1 of the three part series, Kristy focuses on her early influences. We discuss:

    ·  Performance as a precursor to a professional career – and Kristy’s journey from Broadway, musicals, and film

    ·  Being a whole human being in your work and in your organization

    ·  The power of being vulnerable and the willingness to be imperfect

    ·  How entrepreneurship is in in the blood

    ·  How chutzpah and being ill-prepared and worked for Kristy when starting her business

    About Kristy and how to get in touch

    If you are in the world of Compliance, then Kristy certainly needs no introduction. But here are some highlights for all our other listeners.

    • Kristy is founder and CEO of Spark Compliance Consulting and author of a series of books for compliance professionals, beginning with “How to Be a Wildly Effective Compliance Officer.”
    • She has also worked as an actor, Chief Compliance Officer, and adjunct professor. She opened her own publishing company, Brentham House Publishing.

    You can get in touch with and find Kristy at:

    ·  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristygranthart

    ·  Email: kgranthart@sparkcompliance.com

    ·  Twitter: https://twitter.com/KristyGrantHart


    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com.

    Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

    Follow us on:

    ·  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    ·  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

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    3 years ago
    20 minutes

    The Eight Mindsets
    Eight Mindsets Interview with Nick Gallo - The ROI of Compliance
    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions. In this episode we bring you something different. In the spirit of imperfection being the master of done, we bring to you the pre-interview chat with Nick Gallo which was so good we published it! In this chat we discuss: 1. The Eight Mindsets - Nick interview Jason and Nic about what these are 2. Why “Compliance is about people,” and that in turn means that most everything can be tied in to a compliance discussion 3. Keeping it real - taking chances, making mistakes and getting messy  4. The power of imperfection 5. What TV dinners and top chefs have to do with compliance 6. Our unique opportunity to make our workplaces better  7. Nick’s dream of making a better place in the world for his kids and how this is obtainable by compliance and how this translates into for profit organizations. 8. The ethos mismatch in our industry - "paint a painting you are happy to sign at the bottom of" 9. What Nick learned working in private equity 10. How to demonstrate the return of investment (ROI) of compliance.  DOWNLOAD THE EBOOK OF THIS EPISODE FOR ALL THE MEMORABLE QUOTES AND LESSONS AT: https://www.eightmindsets.com/podcast-takeaways About Nick Gallo Nick Gallo is the Chief Servant and Co-CEO of Compliance Line,  a leading provider of outsourced ethics, compliance, and HR services, including hotlines, case management, screening & monitoring, and compliance training. Nick is a CPA and started out in KPMG, but don’t let that fool you – he and his brother Giovanni run ComplianceLine in their own, culture-and-people centered way. Any as many thousands of people know, Nick is also a great LinkedIn follow and communicator. So we had to talk to him! Connect with Nick on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ngallo Company Website: complianceline.com/   Email: ngallo@complianceline.com About the Eight Mindsets: These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course: https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/ If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com
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    3 years ago
    49 minutes 33 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Interview with Eric T Young Part 2: I’m ready to play

    About The Eight Mindsets podcast:

    The Eight Mindsets is brought to you by Nicole Rose and Jason Meyer of The Eight Mindset initiative.  Based on their conversations with the global leaders in the Eight Mindsets Cohort, each week they incorporate Compliance, Ethics, Training , HR, Risk, Management, Leadership, Corporate Culture, Corporate Responsibility, Conduct, Code of Conduct, Education into their discussions.

    About this episode:

    In Part 2 of the Eight Mindsets interview with Eric T Young, the Eight Mindsets dissects some of the 6 recommendations from Eric’s book, Declaration of Independence and Eric speaks about:

    -  Telling his personal story when writing a book about compliance

    -  Why he designed the book to be controversial and provocative

    -  How he came to structure the book as he did.

    -  The ‘what, how and why’ of writing his book

    -  The 3 reasons firms crash and burn

    -  The 6 recommendations in his book and who they are designed for

    -  Why Compliance can’t be the department of no – but ‘yes if’

    -  What he learned  as a young professional sharing an apartment in New York about running compliance programs

    -  His theme song for his book and what has also become the compliance them of this episode.

    How to get in touch with Eric

    Connect with Eric on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/youngerict

    About the Eight Mindsets:

    These Eight Mindsets range from thinking like an advertiser to thinking like a storyteller. But the overriding mindset that we always focus on is the Mindset of a learner – to thinking like your audience and not like a compliance, risk or HR expert.  That’s why we make compliance personal to you so you can make compliance personal to your audiences. To learn more about the Eight Mindsets and get access to complimentary courses that teach you how to produce training, simply subscribe at www.eightmindsets.com

    Enrol in our Eight Mindsets Complimentary Course: https://eight-mindsets.teachable.com/p/the-eight-mindsets-to-producing-effective-in-house-training-and-education

    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eightmindsets/

    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eightmindsets/

    If you want to be on the show, get in touch with us: info@eightmindsets.com

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    4 years ago
    34 minutes 22 seconds

    The Eight Mindsets
    The Eight Mindsets Podcast considers the learning moments in world events, and how we can apply these to our organizations to improve compliance, performance, and organizational culture. The twist is that we use creativity, neuroscience and our legal and compliance experience to unwind real world events to bring you the learning moments that you can take back to your work and personal lives. Our goal is to make legal and compliance accessible to anyone and to empower leaders to train and communicate more effectively when it comes to compliance or anything critical to your organisation.