John Chang breaks down the latest economic and market signals after a week of meetings in New York City. He explains how the temporary government funding deal both alleviates short-term pressures and extends broader uncertainty—impacting GDP, consumer spending, and investor sentiment. John also unpacks capital flows, interest-rate volatility tied to upcoming Federal Reserve changes, and why debt availability is improving even as risk factors persist. He contrasts Sun Belt oversupply with strong performance in low-construction markets, and ultimately argues that today’s elevated cap rates and stable debt costs may represent a rare “sweet spot” for long-term investors. Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Travis Watts, a long-time Best Ever contributor, full-time LP, and author of Passive Investor Tips. They dig into where we are in the multifamily market cycle, why the last three-plus years have felt so painful for LPs, and why Travis believes we’re entering a true recovery phase that could mirror the opportunity of buying in 2010. Travis shares how investing consistently from 2015 to today—even with about 30% of his portfolio “compromised”—still leaves him well ahead of where he’d be if he’d stayed on the sidelines. He and John also break down operator selection, capital calls, fixed vs. floating debt, and how to align your investment strategy with your life stage and risk tolerance. Travis WattsCurrent role: Full-time passive investor and author of Passive Investor TipsBased in: Orlando, Florida Say hi to them at: https://ashcroftcapital.com/our-team/travis-watts/ | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Todd Dexheimer, a multifamily and assisted living operator focused on steady, fundamentals-driven investing. Todd breaks down how he thinks about market selection—favoring job and population growth, sane rent-to-income ratios, and controlled new supply over “sexy” boom-bust metros. He then walks through a massive 99-unit value-add on the Mississippi River in the Twin Cities, where he transformed a mismanaged, dated asset into a lifestyle property with standout amenities and stronger rents. Todd also shares the hard lessons from scaling into assisted living—losing seven figures before dialing in operations—and why controlling payroll, culture, and leadership are everything in that business. Todd DexheimerCurrent role: Principal, Endurus Capital and VitaCare LivingBased in: St. Paul, MinnesotaSay hi to them at: https://www.enduruscapital.com/ | YouTube | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Evan Polaski, digging into what 18 years across retail and multifamily have taught him about raising capital through multiple market cycles. Evan shares what it was really like trying to raise an institutional fund heading into the 2008 crisis, how the “denominator effect” froze commitments, and why that experience still shapes his view of risk today. He contrasts institutional and retail LP behavior, explains why he’s gravitated back to necessity-based retail, and calls out the dangers of marketers-turned-operators who chase AUM instead of disciplined deals. Evan also walks through how he evaluates sponsors as an LP himself, what “conservative underwriting” should actually mean, and the specific questions passive investors need to ask about performance versus the original pro forma. Evan PolaskiCurrent role: Director of Capital Raising, BlackGate Partners Based in: Cincinnati, Ohio Say hi to them at: https://goblackgate.com | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel interview Steven Wear, chief marketing officer of SSSE, about the firm’s nationwide self-storage investments and how it’s evolving the model through creative financing and energy innovation. Steven explains how SSSE focuses on secondary and tertiary markets to avoid oversaturation and zoning risks, and why they advocate for local moratoriums once they’ve entered a market. He discusses using substitution of collateral strategies to maximize returns on seller-financed deals, creating a self-sustaining capital engine. The conversation also explores how SSSE integrates solar power, geothermal, and potential data center partnerships to turn storage facilities into power-generating assets, revealing a forward-thinking vision for the future of self-storage. Steven WearCurrent role: Chief Marketing Officer, SSSEBased in: Chicago, IllinoisSay hi to them at: https://ssse.com/ | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Spencer Carpenter, Best Ever CRE’s guest booker and founder of Outlier Audio, to workshop networking strategy for the Best Ever Conference. They dig into how to define an ideal client profile, sell outcome-based podcast campaigns instead of one-off bookings, and qualify prospects quickly so Spencer only offers high-touch strategy sessions to the right fits. Spencer and Richard also explore building simple but effective lead magnets and email drips, using click tracking to prioritize follow-ups, and reframing conference networking as pipeline-building instead of aimless small talk. Along the way, they touch on how LPs and operators alike can show up to conferences with a clear thesis, buy box, and intentional follow-up plan. Spencer CarpenterCurrent role: Founder, Outlier Audio Based in: Oxford, Pennsylvania Say hi to them at: https://www.outlieraudio.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencercarpenter/ | https://www.instagram.com/spencercarpenter/?hl=en Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/ Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Ryan Floyd, a portfolio manager at Barca Capital, about why thoughtful, authentic investor relations is one of the most overlooked levers for raising and retaining capital. Ryan explains how most IR decks fail by avoiding honest discussion of what isn’t working, over-summarizing numbers in text, and underusing long-term, segment-level data that actually helps investors make decisions. He shares why investors crave more history, more segmentation, and better-designed charts in the spirit of Edward Tufte, rather than generic bullet points and boilerplate language. Richard and Ryan then connect these ideas back to private real estate and funds, showing how storytelling, regular calls, and transparent reporting build deeper investor trust and dramatically increase repeat investments. Ryan FloydCurrent role: Portfolio Manager, Barca Capital Based in: Greater Boston, MassachusettsSay hi to them at: https://www.barcacapital.com/ | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Chang breaks down the Urban Land Institute and PwC 2026 Emerging Trends report and what it means for commercial real estate investors. He walks through ULI’s top ten markets to watch, including Dallas, Miami, Houston, Northern New Jersey, Tampa, and Phoenix, highlighting where overdevelopment, insurance costs, and local policy risks could pressure performance versus where solid job and demographic trends still support growth. John also explores why he favors sectors like seniors housing, medical office, workforce apartments, necessity-based neighborhood retail, and small bay industrial over buzzy data centers, especially given AI’s long runway and the heavy power demands of server facilities. He wraps up by explaining why today’s combination of compressed lending spreads, elevated cap rates, and a coming construction slowdown could set investors up for strong risk-adjusted returns over the next three to five years if they position carefully now. Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Bronson Hill. Bronson shares how he walked away from a high-paying medical sales career to pursue time freedom, eventually raising over $50 million for multifamily, oil and gas, debt funds, and development deals. He and John dig into the core reasons investors should define their goals around cash flow, capital preservation, and tax benefits instead of blindly chasing returns, and how to properly vet operators and opportunities across different asset classes. Bronson also explains his “fire yourself” framework, the concept of wealth worthiness, and why mindset and service-driven capital raising are critical to building a diversified, resilient passive income portfolio. Bronson HillCurrent role: Founder and CEO, Bronson Equity Based in: Los Angeles, California Say hi to them at: https://bronsonequity.com/ | YouTube | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Mark Kenney. Mark opens up about Think Multifamily’s rapid growth, the lending and partnership challenges that led to major losses, and the hard-won lessons that came out of it. He explains how rising interest rates, canceled tax programs, and lender aggressiveness created a perfect storm for multifamily operators, and why ignoring those red flags proved costly. Mark also discusses his personal low points, the importance of transparent communication with investors, and how he’s now rebuilding his business with a renewed focus on long-term stability, fixed-rate debt, and vertically integrated operations. Mark KenneyCurrent role: Co-Founder and CEO, Think MultifamilyBased in: Dallas, TexasSay hi to them at: https://thinkmultifamily.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-kenney-566065142/ Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Michael Alberse. Michael walks through his journey from earning $161 a month in high-yield savings interest to building over $6,000 a month in passive income through a “Frankenstein” mix of cold storage, micro private equity, small business loans, covered-call ETFs, mobile home parks, multifamily, and private money lending. He shares both the 9x home-run exit from a cold storage deal and painful lessons from chasing yield in risky rideshare and cupcake business loans, highlighting why he now prioritizes experienced, obsessive operators and better downside protection. Michael also talks about using masterminds and education to level up his due diligence, hiring a CPA, capping his check size per deal, and keeping his Google job so active income can continue to fuel his passive income portfolio and long-term lifestyle freedom goals. Michael AlberseCurrent role: Google Cloud Account Executive and creator of Micro Investing Based in: Atlanta, Georgia. Say hi to them at: https://investingmicro.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/micro.investing/ | i Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda and Ash interview Charlie Kao. Charlie shares how growing up as “free labor” on his dad’s properties eventually led him back into commercial real estate, where he’s now best known for self-storage. He explains why he’s cautious on self-storage at a national level, how overbuilding and new alternatives are changing demand, and why he’s leaning into highly localized markets where he has an unfair advantage. Charlie also walks through innovative ways he’s turning basic storage into a true service business, from accepting and placing medical shipments to offering boat/RV add-ons, all while using feasibility studies and data-driven pricing to stay ahead of the competition. Charlie KaoCurrent role: Principal and Asset Manager, Twin Oaks CapitalBased in: Grand Rapids, Michigan Say hi to them at: https://www.twinoakscap.com/ | LinkedIn Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr kicks off a Capital Classroom solo session by translating big-name marketing frameworks from Russell Brunson and Alex Hormozi into practical strategies for capital raisers. He explains why LPs aren’t really buying deals, but certainty of outcomes, and how stacking proof can 2–3x your conversions by de-risking the downside and building what he calls a “trust bank account.” Richard breaks down Hormozi’s value equation and shows how debt funds, clear track records, and transparent reporting can dramatically increase the perceived likelihood of achievement for investors. He then walks through a concrete “proof sprint,” covering everything from monthly distribution tables and raw testimonials to live property tours, inspection reports, and third-party verification so your deal rooms and webinars become long-form proof engines instead of generic sales pitches. Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Julia Anderson. Julia shares her journey from running restaurant operations to launching Capital Catalyst, a fractional CMO firm helping real estate operators scale their marketing systems. She explains how effective CRM design, investor journey mapping, and consistent communication create trust that converts cold leads into long-term investors. Julia and Richard dive into practical strategies for marrying sales and marketing, building a white-glove investor experience, and knowing when your business is ready for paid ads or a full marketing department. Julia AndersonCurrent role: Founder of Capital Catalyst; Marketing Account Manager at Lightmark MediaBased in: Gilbert, ArizonaSay hi to them at: https://capitalcatalyst.com | https://lightmarkmedia.com Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Chang analyzes how perception and data often diverge in real estate investing. Drawing from fresh insights after speaking with investors in Dallas, he contrasts Texas Sunbelt markets with the Upper Midwest to reveal surprising five-year trends in rent growth, vacancies, and pricing. John breaks down why overdevelopment has dampened returns in high-growth metros like Austin and Dallas, while steady markets like Chicago and Cincinnati quietly outperformed. He closes by encouraging investors to look beyond the headlines, challenge herd mentality, and explore under-the-radar markets where fundamentals—not hype—drive performance. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Pete Schnepp. Pete shares how he went from running a contracting company to building a 150-door portfolio, including his “five years to freedom” cash-flow goal and the mindset shift from “keep it small, keep it all” to partnering through JVs. He explains why many high-net-worth partners prefer voting rights and alignment over passive LP checks, and how he supplements third-party management to beat market occupancy. You’ll hear practical tactics like speeding up turns, leveraging Facebook Marketplace for leasing, and using your “ikigai” to decide what to scale next. Pete SchneppCurrent role: Founder, Asset Stream Properties; creator of The Deal Room. Based in: Gilbert, Arizona. Say hi to them at: https://assetstreamproperties.com/ | https://peteschnepp.com/ | https://dealroomonline.com/ | LinkedIn | Instagram Alternative Fund IV is closing soon and SMK is giving Best Ever listeners exclusive access to their Founders’ Shares, typically offered only to early investors. Visit smkcap.com/bec to learn more and download the full fund summary. Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Vinney Chopra. Together they explore how Vinney transitioned from multifamily investing into senior housing and hospitality, detailing his use of diversified funds through the Avestor platform and his ability to pivot before the market peak. Vinney explains the “silver tsunami” driving massive demand for assisted living and memory care, the dual benefit of owning both the real estate and the operations, and why hotels are “apartments on steroids.” The conversation wraps with Vinney’s mindset lessons on manifestation, gratitude, and building positivity into every business challenge. Vinney ChopraCurrent role: Founder and CEO of Moneil Investment Group, Moneil Senior Living, and Moneil HospitalityBased in: Danville, CaliforniaSay hi to them at: http://vinneychopra.com/freebenefits Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner reveals his full due diligence process for evaluating private debt and credit funds. Drawing on his experience managing over $150 million as a venture capitalist and investing $3.3 million of his own capital across 23 private deals, Pascal shares the real questions professional investors ask before wiring money. He explains how to identify red flags in fund structures, analyze leverage and default rates, and evaluate manager credibility through a systematic, repeatable vetting process. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s episode of Beyond Multifamily, Amanda Cruise and Ash Patel dive into real numbers from recent deals and the systems that keep their operation moving even while traveling. Amanda breaks down a South Carolina mobile home park bought for 190k and sold for 735k, netting a little over 420k after paying back private lenders, plus a quick-turn plan on a rough 15-lot park and several land-home plays where undervalued existing homes create hidden upside. They unpack speed-to-close, encroachment fixes, broker selection, and why some manufactured homes aren’t worth relocating. Ash shares a clean investor waterfall that returns 100% of principal and pref, then splits 60-40 to GPs, highlighting alignment and when to hold versus exit. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this week’s episode of Capital Clinic, Richard McGirr interviews Eric Burns. Eric shares his journey from firefighter to capital raiser, explaining how his hands-on experience as a landlord led him to transition into passive investing and ultimately focus on fund-to-funds syndication. He and Richard discuss how personal storytelling can build trust in capital raising, how to identify ideal investor avatars, and why fund-to-funds offer both flexibility and compliance benefits. Eric also receives strategic advice on diversifying into debt funds to balance investor goals between income and growth, while learning to leverage his own background to connect authentically with prospects. Eric BurnsCurrent role: Founder and Capital Raiser, Burns CapitalBased in: Cincinnati, OhioSay hi to them at: https://burnscapitalgroup.com | Linkedin Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices