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Would you take a pay cut for the career you want? Would you even take two? And what if the world's default position is actually chaos? How do we make decisions then? Arjun Raghavan is CEO of Partners Capital, making million-dollar decisions every day. He took some big decisions to get himself on the career path he wanted and to achieve his ambitions. Find out how he makes his choices in the last episode before our summer or winter break (depending on the hemisphere you're in!).
00:00 – The Asymmetry of Outcomes
Raghavan introduces his decision-making philosophy: optionality, assessing upside vs. downside, and treating choices like investment bets.
02:10 – From Engineering to Consulting
Early career pivots from engineering to Andersen Consulting (now Accenture), and eventually, an MBA at INSEAD.
04:50 – A 60% Pay Cut and Ostrich Farms
A bold detour into nonprofit consulting in Namibia through Accenture Development Partnerships, with key lessons on timing and impact.
08:15 – The Leap into Finance
Joining a small hedge fund led by ex-Goldman Sachs professionals, learning the hard truths of investment careers, and taking a second massive pay cut.
11:30 – Finding the Right Fit at Partners Capital
Discovering a multifaceted, client-facing, global investing role at Partners Capital that aligned with his love for variety and challenge.
14:20 – Managing Billions Amid Global Chaos
Reflecting on how Partners Capital operates with $60–65 billion AUM across 8 global offices—navigating geopolitical, economic, and market volatility.
17:00 – Annie Duke and Decision-Making Philosophy
Drawing from Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke to stress separating decision quality from outcomes; investing is a long-term, probability-based game.
20:15 – Human Behaviour, Loss Aversion, and Clients
How emotional utility shapes investment decisions, and why sometimes logic alone doesn’t serve client needs.
23:00 – Barack Obama and Sleeping Well
Quoting Obama on making the best decision with available data and learning to sleep peacefully with uncertainty.
References
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How do you steer one of the world's most prestigious business schools through a global pandemic? What is a "leadership script"? And what happens when Bruce is introduced to "success squared"? François Ortalo Magné was Dean of the London Business School between 2017 and 2024. He successfully led the organisation through COVID's near catastrophic consequences. He has some very clear advice about how he makes decisions, how to tap into 'good luck', how to take the future into account ... and how to take your teams with you whatever decisions you make.
Key Takeouts
References:
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Can one word change your life? Bruce thinks so. In this solo episode he unpacks a deceptively simple but transformative idea. Drawing from personal insight, academic influence, and examples from previous episodes, Bruce challenges listeners to step away from the comfort of binary choices and embrace the complexity of the real world.
Key Takeaways
Notable Quotes
"Every time you want to use the word 'but', use 'and' instead."
— Professor Chris Dalton (as quoted by Bruce)
"Comfort isn’t a metric of a good decision. Discomfort is often required."
— Bruce Whitfield
"The real world isn’t an either/or world. It’s messy. It’s uncertain. It’s full of conflicting data, competing priorities, and impossible expectations. It is the world of 'and'."
— Bruce Whitfield
"All progress depends on the unreasonable man."
— George Bernard Shaw (quoted by Bruce)
References & Mentions
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Money doesn’t exist. Economics isn’t about equations, it’s about us. Irish economist, David McWilliams, talks about the invention of money, how it drives our choices and how to make better decisions about it - our greatest, yet most divisive, invention so far. Why does traditional economics miss the mark? How can humour democratise economic literacy? Why is investing in yourself the most liberating financial decision you can make?
David is talking about his book Money: A story of Humanity - Money: A Story of Humanity - https://www.amazon.com/Money-Story-Humanity-David-McWilliams/dp/1982152958
at the Franschhoek Literary Festival in South Africa 16 - 18 May 2025.
https://www.flf.co.za/participants/david-mcwilliams/
00:00 – 01:52 | The Nature of Economics
Why economics is about humanity, not numbers. Money as a made-up but powerful force.
01:53 – 05:45 | What Economists Get Wrong
The plumbing analogy: why economists understand mechanics but not meaning. The limits of academic jargon.
05:46 – 06:40 | The Origins of Money
Mesopotamia, the move from barter to symbols, and how money emerged as a trust technology.
06:41 – 09:10 | Commerce, Counting, and Religion
How commerce required writing, courts, laws, and even religion to underpin trust at scale.
09:10 – 14:11 | Weaponized Economics & Global Decisions
How money disciplines power—particularly in US politics. Financial markets as democracy’s silent opposition.
14:12 – 17:54 | Supercycles and Global Volatility
Understanding the big turning points in modern economic history and the new age of economic nationalism.
17:55 – 21:08 | Kilkenomics & Humor as a Lens
How comedy disarms economic elitism. Making economic insight accessible through laughter.
21:09 – 24:52 | The Ultimate Decision: Invest in Yourself
Why the most powerful financial move is personal investment—and why time always wins over money.
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Warren Buffet’s current net worth is around $165 billion. Have you ever wondered what makes him the most successful investment decision-maker in the world? This time every year, thousands of finance professionals flock to his company, Berkshire Hathaway’s AGM in Omaha, desperate to find some answers to that question. Two of the people who went last year let us in on what really goes on at what’s been called ‘Woodstock for capitalists’. And on how Warrren Buffet has influenced their own decision-making..
Key takeaways:
References
· Warren Buffett
https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/
Clip of Buffett addressing University of Georgia here https://youtu.be/Aa_TPj2pWLU
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Jeremy Vine is one the UK's most popular presenters. Millions of people tune in to hear him – and talk to him - on Channel 5 and BBC Radio 2 every day. He opens up about some of the many decisions he’s made during a nearly 40-year broadcasting career. What should he have done when John Prescott gave him an off-camera scoop at the 1995 Labour Conference (and what did he do)? How do he and his team decide what goes into his shows? Why did he decide that the next thing for him was writing a crime novel? And why did he really decide to do Strictly? Listen in as one of our most versatile and best-loved broadcasters lets us in on some of his innermost thought processes.
Murder on Line One comes out 24 April 2025
🕰️ Chapters
00:00 – Introduction: "TV is squash. Radio is snooker."
02:00 – Jeremy's manic morning routine and show preparation
04:20 – The power of radio and its fiercely loyal audience
07:10 – Relevance as a life force and decision-making in show content
10:35 – Values vs. views: Navigating BBC impartiality
13:00 – From Africa correspondent to Radio 2 host: Career pivots
16:15 – The Prescott tape dilemma: Should it air or not?
19:40 – What makes a good producer and working with unpredictable teams
22:15 – Real stories that resonate: The hold-all campaign for children in care
24:00 – Writing Murder on Air One: A novel rooted in personal experience
26:40 – Strictly Come Dancing, punk bands, and letting your real self show
28:30 – No retirement, only beginnings: Jeremy’s outlook on the future
References
Find out more about Bruce here - https://www.brucewhitfield.com/
This is a Podcart production.
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“The more successful you are the more vulnerable you are to bias”. Nuala Walsh has identified 200 biases that affect all our decisions! In her book Tune In: How to Make Smarter Decisions in a Noisy World she explores how biases cloud judgment and why even smart, successful people make bad decisions. Drawing from her 30-year career in the corporate world and her behavioural science expertise, she’s created the Perimeters Framework—a practical tool to help individuals and organizations mitigate decision risk.
00:00 – Intro: The Real Risk Is Decision Risk
Bruce introduces the core theme of decision risk and welcomes guest Nuala Walsh.
01:30 – Why Nuala Walsh Chose Decision Science
Nuala shares her corporate background and what drew her to behavioural science.
04:15 – What Is ‘Decision Risk’?
Exploring why poor decision-making is often overlooked compared to economic or political risks.
05:40 – The Perimeters Framework: 10 Decision Traps
Nuala introduces her signature framework derived from 200 cognitive biases.
09:29 – Bias Bingo and Real-World Case Studies
From Trump to Theranos—how bias shows up in politics, business, and history.
12.23 – The Myth of Fast Decisions
The problem with speed over substance and the lure of decisiveness in leadership.
14:10 – Slowing Down with Decision Friction
Tactics for creating pause, using reflection, and the 5 Why’s method.
21:00 – Emotion, Fear & The Probability Test
Strategies to remove emotion and fear from high-stakes decisions.
23:15 – Regret, Self-Awareness & Long-Term Learning
How regret shapes future behaviour and why self-awareness is critical.
25:49 – Final Insights & Tools for Better Decisions
Reflection on key lessons and practical tools from Nuala’s work.
Resources & Mentions
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US President, Donald Trump, took office exactly two months ago on the day this goes live. His decisions have got some people seriously worried – including Harvard Law Professor, Cass Sunstein. He recently warned about their possible consequences in his New York Times piece "This theory is behind Trump's Power Grab". Prof Sunstein is also the co-author of Nudge, the global best-seller that has influenced the way governments around the globe think about policy. Bruce met Cass at a conference and couldn’t pass up the chance to find out more about this revolutionary thinking that has changed the world.
5:30 What is a Nudge?
· Defining the concept of nudging
· The balance between freedom of choice and influence
10:15 The Science Behind Nudging
· Why humans are susceptible to nudges
· How choice architecture shapes behaviour
· The role of the brain in processing decisions
14:00Real-World Applications of Nudging
· How nudging is used in public policy and business
· The role of automatic enrolment in behaviour change
18:45 The Ethics of Nudging
· The potential dangers of nudging for manipulation
· Dark patterns in marketing and politics
· The responsibility of governments and corporations
22:30 The Power of Repetition & Misinformation
· The illusory truth effect: why repetition makes falsehoods believable
· Social media’s role in amplifying misinformation
26:00 Final Thoughts
· The importance of ethical decision-making
· How to apply nudging principles in everyday life
Professor Sunstein’s NY Times piece - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/opinion/trump-roberts-unitary-executive-theory.html .
Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness – Cass Sunstein & Richard Thaler
Look Again – Cass Sunstein & Tali Sharot
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The Booker Prize is the biggest literary award in the world. It can change lives and make careers. But who decides which is the best book? How do you take a collection of subjective opinions and choose a winner? Sara Collins is a prize-winning author, broadcaster, podcaster, former lawyer and, in 2024, was a Booker judge. She takes us inside the process – which starts with reading 156 books! – and reveals her own thoughts on Samantha Harvey’s Orbital, the eventual winner.
Chapters:
[02:10] Who decides who wins?
[06:05] A lawyer’s turn to literature
[10:30] The science behind judging art
[14:20] The emotional toll of choosing a winner
[18:15] Finding the right story
[22:05] Advice for writers and decision-makers
[25:00] Closing thoughts: the power of a well-made decision
Key Takeaways:
References & Mentions:
The Art of Deciding has been featured in The Guardian Podcast Newsletter, Podnews, The List, and the Podbible newsletter and more.
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Have you stopped remembering routes because you’ve got Google maps? Would you rely on Chat GPT for advice on how to split up with your partner? Should you say ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ to Alexa? We have some suggestions. Mark Purdy, co-founder and director of Beacon Thought Leadership is also an economist and tech enthusiast. He shares his ideas on the impact of artificial intelligence on decision-making - in industry, in society and in our individual lives.
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What is the ideal number of people to involve in a collective decision? What do we need to be happy - and effective - in a group? Why should more companies have pubs?
Professor Robin Dunbar is Professor of Evolutionary Psychology at the University of Oxford. He’s famous for Dunbar’s number - the limit to the amount of meaningful relationships that we can have at any one time (listen to the podcast to find out what it is). Sam Rockey is an Associate Fellow at Saïd Business School - also at Oxford - and a consultant who has helped many multi-nationals improve their performance. Their book (with Tracey Camilleri), The Social Brain: The Psychology of Successful Groups, looks at how we function collectively, why we’re hard-wired to do so and how to create more powerful organisations - including how we make decisions.
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“Be brilliant for ten minutes a day.” Is that enough? It’s worked for award-winning West End and Broadway producer, Colin Ingram who spends his life making multi-million-pound decisions about what audiences are going to like. Sometimes he’s right – his Back to the Future: The Musical is a smash hit. But sometimes he’s wrong – his Gone With The Wind crashed and burned. How does he get into people’s heads? What has he learned? What can we learn from him?
Chapters:
(00:56) One of life's big pleasures is deciding to go to a show
(02:42) Colin Ingram is one of the West End's most successful producers
(06:08) Colin’s early days working for Cameron Macintosh
(08:06) What decisions would you have made differently today versus the younger version of you
(09:35) Colin’s process, considering a theatre production from conception to execution can take a decade
(21:43) Making big decisions that are not always popular can be difficult
(24:03) Be brilliant for 10 minutes a day
References
Colin Ingram: https://coliningramltd.com
Back to the Future: The Musical https://www.backtothefuturemusical.com
Ghost the Musical https://www.ghostthemusical.com
Billy Elliot the Musical https://billyelliotthemusical.com
Cameron Mackintosh https://www.cameronmackintosh.com
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New Year, new decisions to make? Here is a collection of the best pieces of decision-making advice from The Art of Deciding so far - all designed to make 2025 your year of making the right choices. More episodes coming soon.
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You can also follow him on Linkedin and get links to all his latest projects on Linktree
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The Art of Deciding is just six episodes old and already having an impact. As we wrap up 2024, here are just some of the life-changing lessons we've learned so far. The Art of Deciding is back mid-January with more fascinating decision-makers.
Bruce Whitfield is an award winning journalist, best-selling author and popular speaker. More here: www.brucewhitfield.com
You can also follow him on Linkedin and get links to all his latest projects on Linktree
The Art of Deciding has been featured in The Guardian Podcast Newsletter, Podnews, The List, and the Podbible newsletter.
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On 22 July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik blew up Norway’s government buildings. He then travelled 23 miles to the island of Utoya where, posing as a policeman, he shot everyone he saw. By the end of the day 77 people were dead – 38 of them under the age of 20. Breivik was immediately taken into custody - but was threatening that this was just the beginning of an even bigger killing spree. Police Superintendent Asbjorn Raschlew was appointed to lead the interrogation of one of the deadliest individual mass murderers the world has ever seen. The science of decision-making was at the heart of his questioning.
He explains: -
We learn that the methodology used was designed to stimulate communication and ensure that suspects felt listened to and respected, regardless of their crimes.
A stark contrast to the dramatized interrogations we often see in movies, it focuses on building rapport and gathering accurate information.
"Information is the lifeblood of the investigation."
References:
Asbjorn Rachlew’s book, A Guide to the Professional Interview https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Professional-Interview-Research-based-Methodology/dp/1785277987
Asbjorn Rachlew TEDx Talk https://youtu.be/1H8Mcku6adA?si=d63cLq5RkGSqQEBA
Professor Gisli Gudjonsson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%ADsli_Gu%C3%B0j%C3%B3nsson
The extract from the court proceedings is taken from here.
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Liv Boeree made the wrong decision in the grand finale of a TV poker game show and lost £100 000. But it didn’t put her off, and she went on to become one of the all-time most successful female players in the world. Not only did she win nearly $4 million, she also developed a decision-making philosophy that we can all use, however high the stakes. Plus, as the host of the Win Win podcast, her focus now is what happens when your choices are only made on the basis of beating the competition.
You can find the Win Win podcast here www.winwinpodcast.com
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Key points are:
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Quotes:
"People use their intuition as an excuse to be intellectually lazy."
"Poker is probably the closest to the messiness of life."
"True rationality is a dance of both Intuition and logic and steering your emotions and being the boss of them."
"The best players are the ones who do all the study, internalise all of these mathematical solutions, and also have incredible intuitions."
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References
Liv Boree - https://www.livboeree.com/
The Win Win podcast - www.winwinpodcast.com
Bruce Whitfield - http://brucewhitfield.com/
Bruce Whitfield is an award winning journalist, best-selling author and popular speaker who has spent over two decades hosting a nightly business radio show, questioning influential people about the decisions they made.
The insights he gleaned over the years, combined with his relentless curiosity and ability to translate complex concepts into digestible and usable information led him to develop The Art of Deciding podcast. Each episode is a conversation with someone whose decision making process has driven their success, and draws on lessons that we can all use to make better decisions in our own lives.
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Series Producer: Jayne Morgan
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Karan Bilimoria was a Cambridge law student when he discovered that the UK just didn’t have the right beer for his favourite curry. Ignoring his degree and his family’s military background, he decided to solve the problem by setting up Cobra Beer when he was just 27. It went on to become one of the most awarded beers in the world. Since then, he’s applied his entrepreneurial mindset to a huge range of organisations, including as President of the Confederation of British Industry, working with government during COVID, when he was the first person to suggest the widespread use of lateral flow testing and saving thousands of lives. He’s now Lord Bilimoria, an independent crossbench life peer, and still just as focused on taking action. How does he approach decision-making? What does he see as the role of luck? What is the one thing he thinks everyone should remember when it comes to making choices?
Key takeaways:
· He introduces the concept of luck as "when determination meets opportunity," highlighting the need to be proactive in seizing life's waves of opportunity.
· He contrasts the entrepreneurial mindset of "playing to win" with the bureaucratic mindset of "playing not to lose," encouraging listeners to adopt a proactive and positive attitude towards opportunities.
· Bilimoria discusses the significance of trust and credibility in business, drawing from personal experiences where his unwavering faith in his product helped him overcome the credibility gap.
· Cobra Beer https://www.cobrabeer.com/
· Cambridge University https://www.cam.ac.uk/
· Confederation of British Industry https://www.cbi.org.uk/
· TED Talk by Karan Bilimoria https://youtu.be/J4yzoTClUMk?si=Q29ifNgfRHrE53W_
· House of Lords https://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/whos-in-the-house-of-lords/
· University of Birmingham https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/
ABOUT BRUCE WHITFIELD
Bruce Whitfield is an award winning journalist, best-selling author and popular speaker who has spent over two decades hosting a nightly business radio show, questioning influential people about the decisions they made. More on bruce here: www.brucewhitfield.com
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When he was a young, bored accountant in Cape Town, Brad Fried decided to ring up Jim Wolfensohn, President of the World Bank to get some career advice. He figured - what’s the worst that could happen? Brad went on to chair the board of the Bank of England as well as Investec and Goldman Sachs. Hear how his 'art of deciding' is all about ‘the counterfactual’. Plus, discover his extraordinary insight into the power of silence when it comes to chairing committees - and how to avoid the deadening grip of groupthink.
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Sharmadean Reid was a talented design student who loved technology - and getting her nails done. Now she’s one of the UK’s most successful entrepreneurs. What decisions took her from founding the smash hit brand WAH Nails at the age of 24 (clients included Serena Williams and Margot Robbie), to becoming the first black woman in the country to raise more than £1 million in venture capital? She tells us about her journey from art school into business, tech innovation and then towards her vision of gender equity - one she’s very willing to admit hasn’t been easy. In our second episode, hear about the extraordinary ‘art of deciding’ that has been at the heart of it.
One of Sharmadean’s recent decisions was to write a book, New Methods for Women: A Manifesto for Independence – 49 essays drawing on her own experience to help women do better in business … and in life. Find out more about that here - https://amzn.eu/d/aj8AbHX
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Some sources say a Jack Reacher book is sold every nine seconds, some say twenty. Either way, Lee Child is one of the most commercially successful authors ever. But he never intended to be a writer! What decisions led to his incredible achievements? In the first episode of The Art of Deciding, discover how Lee made the risky decision to solve a redundancy crisis by writing a best-seller. Find out what was behind the choices that brought to life one of the most popular action heroes of all time. Then, despite millions of adoring fans, learn how he nearly decided to kill Reacher off (“he was going to bleed to death on a filthy motel bathroom floor”) and what he chose to do instead.
A brand-new Jack Reacher – In Too Deep – is out now. Find out more here - https://amzn.eu/d/9kIQFvG
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Artwork: Adam Richardson - https://www.podcastcoverart.co.uk/
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