What if the future of skin rejuvenation isn’t more heat, more trauma, or more downtime, but a return to nature’s own regenerative blueprint?
In this groundbreaking episode of the ABIC podcast, host Stefanie Milla is joined by Kamil Szymanski, a globally respected educator and Aesthetic Practitioner from Ireland to explore Spongilla spicules—a bio-intelligent skin remodelling treatment that’s changing how we think about treating the skin.
Together, they unpack the science behind this ancient aquatic ingredient and its advanced clinical application in modern aesthetics. But this conversation goes far beyond one treatment. We explore the overuse of ablative and heat-based technologies, particularly for ageing, menopausal and barrier-compromised skin. We explore the biological impact of aggressive treatments, the hormonal realities of mature skin, and the need to expand our treatment toolbox with innovations that work with the skin, not against it.
Discover how SQT’s natural spicules stimulate advanced dermal rejuvenation without heat, excessive trauma or downtime, and how this shift signals a broader industry movement toward holistic, sustainable skin health.
If you’re a clinic, salon, or spa owner ready to innovate your treatment menu, elevate your results, and meet the evolving needs of today’s skin-savvy clients, this episode will reshape your perspective, and your protocols.
This episode is brought to you by SQT Bio-Microneedling Australia
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We’re told to focus on client experience, but the world’s top brands are focusing on client psychology.
In this elevated and thought provoking episode, our host ABIC CEO, Stef Milla sits down with Emma Winen and Chloe Wilson from Shortcuts Australia to explore a radical shift: what if your software isn’t just a tool, it’s part of your brand?
In an era where luxury is redefined by ease, intelligence, and emotional resonance, the most successful clinics aren’t run like clinics at all, they’re run like consumer brands.
You’ll uncover how behavioural science, neuro-marketing, and intuitive technology are reshaping the client journey, and how your tech stack is silently influencing trust, prestige, loyalty, and even perceived clinical outcomes.
Expect insights, science-backed strategy, and disruptive thinking that will leave you questioning everything from your online booking system to your post-treatment follow-up.
If you’re ready to shift from being a service provider to becoming an unforgettable brand, this is the episode for you.
This episode is brought to you by Shortcuts Australia
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Welcome to the ABIC Podcast, where we bring you the conversations that shape the future of our industry. Today’s episode is all about voice, your voice and the authentic human voice and why it’s the most powerful tool you have in an era where artificial intelligence is everywhere.
Here’s the truth: AI can write faster, but it can’t write you. It can’t capture the quirks, the soul, the lived perspective that makes words move people. And while every brand has a voice, not every brand knows how to use it. That’s where a professional copywriter comes in, someone who can shape the authentic human voice of your brand into words that build trust, spark emotion, and make you unforgettable.
To explore this, I’m joined by Rachel Medlock, a professional copywriter in the beauty and aesthetic industry whose work is instantly recognisable for its sass, originality and substance. Together we’ll unpack why the authentic human voice, crafted by a professional, is the future, how you can protect and amplify it, and the science behind why humans still crave words written by humans.
If you’ve ever wondered how to make your brand stand out in the age of AI, this conversation will show you why your voice, and your authentic human voice in the hands of a skilled copywriter, is your greatest competitive edge.
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In today’s episode, we’re lifting the lid on one of the most misunderstood and underrepresented modalities in our industry, electrolysis.
While laser and IPL dominate headlines and clinic menus, electrolysis remains the only truly permanent hair removal method. So why has it been left behind?
We're joined by Kelly Dermody from Dermaskin Training, a passionate educator, practitioner and compliance expert with over 30 years of experience across clinical aesthetics, dermal therapies, and advanced skin education.
Kelly’s also a national beauty trainer, clinic owner, and the founder of Mine Minerals, a cosmeceutical skincare and mineral makeup line developed directly from her work with real client skin.
We explore how Australia’s education and regulatory systems are failing therapists when it comes to advanced modalities, why electrolysis matters now more than ever, and how Kelly is helping to bridge the gap between training, compliance and ethical, evidence-based care.
If you’ve ever felt confused, underprepared, or overwhelmed by qualifications, standards or pathways for advanced treatments — this one is for you.
This episode is brought to you by Dermaskin Training
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Today we’re exploring one of the most overlooked yet powerful forces behind facial ageing - the silent architects that shape how we look as the years go by: our bones, fat pads and hormones.
Joining us is Dr. David Kosenko, Head of Medical and Clinical Training for Dermocosmètica and President of the Cosmetic Physicians College of Australasia.
Together, we’ll unpack how menopause accelerates change, why bone and fat matter as much as skin, and how new regenerative treatments such as Profhilo Classic, Profhilo Structura, and Emepelle are reshaping the way we think about prevention and long-term care.
If you’re a practitioner who wants to elevate your understanding of ageing, recognise the earliest signs of structural depletion, and discover how to move beyond filling space to restoring the environment, this conversation will give you fresh insights and practical strategies you can take straight back into clinic.
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What if the secret to success isn’t just hard work—but rewiring your brain to think differently?
Today, we dive deep into the science of resilience, high performance, and self-belief with Nicola Le Lievre—an award-winning clinic owner, PR powerhouse, and co-author of Back Yourself.”
We’re about to break down the neuroscience of self-doubt, how to train your mind for success, and the psychological strategies used by elite performers. This episode isn’t just inspiration—it’s science-backed transformation.
This episode is brought to you by Circadia Australia
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Time. Purpose. Performance.
In an industry that never stops moving, how do we slow down enough to lead with clarity, work with intention, and build success that actually feels sustainable?
In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, we’re exploring how aesthetic professionals can reclaim their time, redefine what success really means, and lead from a place of purpose—not pressure. We’ll unpack evidence-based strategies, emotional intelligence, and systems that support human-centred growth—for yourself, your team, and your business.
Joining us is the powerhouse Sherri Ponisi—a passionate industry leader with over 20 years in hair and beauty, wellness, education, and tech. From behind the chair to the frontlines of innovation, Sherri knows what it takes to streamline the chaos and reconnect with what matters most.
We’re also taking a look at how Timely isn’t just software—it’s a smart, silent business partner that helps you make space for the things that move the needle: clarity, creativity, and meaningful connection.
If you're ready to shift from hustle to harmony, this one’s for you.
This episode is brought to you by Timely
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In a results-driven industry, what happens when we pause and ask: why are we really doing this?
In this episode of the ABIC podcast, Stefanie Milla is joined by Renée Altakrity distributor and educator behind SQT Spongilla Therapy, to explore how a purpose-led approach can create powerful transformation, not only for clients, but for teams, businesses, and brands.
Together they unpack how intentionality, integrity, and inclusivity can become the foundation of a clinic’s culture, treatment design, and commercial success. This conversation is for any clinic or salon owner, skin therapist, or brand leader ready to reconnect with their deeper mission, and use it as a powerful advantage in a noisy market.
Whether you’re rebuilding after burnout or simply ready to redefine what success means to you, this episode offers reflection, inspiration, and tangible steps to create a business that matters.
This episode is brought to you by SQT Bio-Microneedling Australia
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Can makeup actually support skin health ?
Many professionals still view skincare and makeup as separate — but when it comes to skin health, especially in a clinical setting, the right mineral makeup can be a powerful extension of the skincare journey, enhancing post-treatment results, protecting compromised skin, and building client trust.
In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, we explore the often-overlooked role of mineral makeup in clean beauty routines and in-clinic protocols. We unpack what to look for in a brand that truly aligns with skin health, and how to choose products that compliment your treatment outcomes — not compromise them.
We’re joined by Brittany Dailey, from Youngblood Mineral Cosmetics, an experienced esthetician and industry leader, who shares practical advice on integrating mineral cosmetics into your client journey with confidence and credibility.
Listen in for insights that will help you shift the way you think about makeup — not as an afterthought, but as a clinical tool that supports both your clients and your business.
This episode is brought to you by Professional Beauty Solutions
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Launching and growing a successful aesthetic business requires smart decision-making, strategic investments, and a deep understanding of what clients truly want.
In this episode, we sit down with Emily Turner from Soul Skin, who has achieved remarkable success with her new business. She shares the key decisions that shaped her treatment menu, how she selected the right technologies for maximum impact, and her advice for clinic owners looking to expand profitably.
Whether you're starting out or scaling up, this conversation is packed with valuable insights to help you build a thriving, sustainable business.
This episode is brought to you by The Global Beauty Group
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Welcome to “We Tell Your Story”—a podcast episode dedicated to the power of storytelling as a tool to build trust, shape perception, and create emotional connection in the professional beauty and aesthetics space.
Today’s guest, Stephanie McLean, the Editor of Spa + Clinic magazine, is not just a journalist—she is a curator of transformation. Through every article, feature, and interview, Stephanie and her team give life to the moments that define our industry.
But storytelling isn’t just for magazines—it’s for you. As a clinic owner, therapist, educator or brand, your story is one of your greatest assets.
In this episode, we’ll explore:
Why storytelling isn’t just a marketing tactic—it’s a human need
What kind of stories actually connect with clients and peers
The neuroscience of how we process stories
How to craft your brand story in a way that resonates
And how storytelling builds loyalty, visibility, and longevity in a competitive market
This episode is your invitation to take the stage—not with perfection, but with purpose. Because the more stories we tell, the more connected, inspired, and supported we all become.
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What does it take to build a skincare brand that delivers real results, remains accessible, and never compromises on quality?
In this episode, we’re joined by Maria Enna-Cocciolone, founder of INSKIN COSMEDICS to explore how the concept of masstige — prestige for the masses — is transforming the professional skincare landscape.
Maria opens up about:
What masstige really means and why it’s gaining traction
Spotting a market gap and building a brand to fill it
Launching a business in times of uncertainty
The power of mindset, mission, and staying true to your brand story
This is a powerful conversation for clinic, salon, and spa owners ready to align their brand with purpose, relevance, and long-term success.
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Today's guest is Annette Rubin, a powerhouse in the beauty industry and the CEO of HydroPeptide.
With an impressive career spanning executive roles at Estée Lauder Companies, Advanced Bio-Technologies, and Belli Skincare, Annette has a deep passion for transforming brands through science-backed innovation. Her expertise lies in bridging meaningful medical and scientific research with cutting-edge skincare, creating products that go beyond the surface to deliver real results.
Leader of HydroPeptide, Annette is at the forefront of peptide technology, driving the brand’s commitment to innovation and efficacy. Here to discuss the Power of Peptides—how they work, why they’re essential, and what sets them apart in the ever-evolving world of skincare, from HydroPeptide, today we welcome Annette Rubin.
This episode is brought to you by Professional Beauty Solutions
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What if the power of touch could transform lives, not just soothe muscles, but offer healing and hope to those facing cancer?
On today’s episode of the ABIC podcast, we explore the profound impact of oncology massage with two trail blazers in the field.
Tania Shaw, Managing Director of Oncology Massage Training Limited, began her career in retail before answering a deeper calling, developing rehabilitative and restorative massage therapies for cancer patients. With over 15 years of leadership, education and advocacy, she now leads OMT's expansion across Australia and New Zealand and Sri Lanka, empowering therapists to deliver life changing care.
Joining her is Tracey Mead, founder of Refresh Body Therapies in Toowoomba and one of the first industry professionals to join ABIC when it was launched. With a background spanning pharmaceuticals, dermal aesthetics and advanced skin science, Tracey discovered her passion for oncology massage after a single client's need for a safe and comforting touch, changed her perspective forever.
Together, they're here to share the science, the soul, and the significance of integrating oncology massage into your modern practice.
This episode is brought to you by The Aesthetic and Beauty Industry Council
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Today’s guests are Dr Simon Jackson, from Davines and Hayley May from BLC Cosmetics
Dr. Simon Jackson, a highly respected natural product scientist and pharmacognosist known for his pioneering contributions to natural compound research. Dr. Jackson specializes in identifying and developing bioactive compounds from plants, marine life, and other natural sources for therapeutic applications. His work bridges traditional medicine with modern pharmaceutical science, exploring chemical compositions and biological activities that hold promise for treating conditions like cancer, infectious diseases, and metabolic disorders. With numerous publications and frequent conference invitations, Dr. Jackson is recognized for his innovative approaches and dedication to advancing natural product science.
Hayley May, is a dynamic leader with over 15 years of experience in sales, business development, and team management in the beauty industry. As Head of Sales at BLC Cosmetics, Hayley focuses on expanding BLC's reach and strengthening its B2B and wholesale channels through strategic, results-driven approaches. Known for her mentorship and commitment to team success, she excels at building client relationships and creating innovative solutions that boost salon success and elevate market visibility.
Here to discuss pharmacognosy and it's relevance in the skincare and wellness industry for BLC Cosmetics today we welcome Dr Simon Jackson and Hayley May.
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Today’s guest is Dr Tiina Meder from MEDER BEAUTY SCIENCE
Dr. Meder's passion for science and medicine has shaped a remarkable career that began in cardiology and transitioned to dermatology, where her fascination with the complexities of human skin found its home.
In 2009, she founded Meder Beauty Science, driven by a desire to challenge conventional skincare. Today, her innovative brand spans over 30 countries, with treatments offered in more than 10,000 clinics worldwide. A true pioneer, Dr. Meder introduced the use of peptides for forehead wrinkles, integrated prebiotics and probiotics into treatments, and was among the first to harness epigenetic and neuro-cosmetic ingredients to advance skin health.
Here to share her expertise as we discuss pigmentation challenges and sun-safe solutions for Australian clinics, from Meder Beauty Science, today we welcome Dr Tiina Meder.
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Today's guest is Michael Pugliese from Circadia Australia.
An informed educator, writer, and asset to the skincare industry, Michael Pugliese became the third-generation CEO of Circadia by Dr. Pugliese in 2006. His dedication and leadership to the brand has grown to achieve international recognition and distribution worldwide. This global expansion has created a skincare regime for every skin type in the world. Michael’s compelling lectures honors the tenets of modern skin science discovered originally by his grandfather.
By following in his grandfather’s footsteps, Michael has been driven to deliver a clear message on skincare to all of his clients and fellow educators in the industry. In addition to the success in the skincare line, Circadia also has the first physician formulated pillowcase. This is formulated to work in harmony with the body’s natural Circadian rhythms which protect from environmental damage while focusing on skin repair during your evenings rest.
Here to discuss the effects of light spectrums' on skin health, performance skincare ingredients and the science of chronobiology from Circadia Australiatoday we welcome Michael Pugliese.
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Today’s guest are Darryl Reed and Charlotte Meli from Tissue Repair.
Darryl brings a wealth of experience from roles across research, government, and the private sector, including multinational corporations and startups. After completing a melanoma research fellowship in Switzerland, he returned to Australia to work with the Therapeutic Goods Administration before taking on senior positions with Roche and Bayer. Now, as Chief Operating Officer at Tissue Repair Ltd, Darryl plays a pivotal role in the company's growth and ASX listing.
Charlotte’s journey in the cosmetic industry began over a decade ago. Starting as a Dermal Therapist, she advanced her education, earning a Bachelor of Nursing and specializing in cosmetic injectables. For the past seven years, Charlotte has honed her expertise, working alongside some of the most respected professionals in aesthetics. Together, Darryl and Charlotte bring a unique blend of pharmaceutical insight and clinical expertise to today’s discussion.
Here to skin healing and aftercare for aesthetic clinics from Tissue Repair, today we welcome Darryl Reed and Charlotte Meli.
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Today’s guest is Heather Vounnou from The Global Beauty Group
Global Education Innovator at The Global Beauty Group, Heather is an esteemed leader in the beauty education sector. With a degree from the University of Johannesburg’s Faculty of Health Sciences, Heather's career has spanned globally, including roles at the International Dermal Institute and Ella Baché, where she revamped national training programs. At Ultraceuticals, she launched the award-winning UltraAcademy. Since joining The Global Beauty Group in 2019, Heather has pioneered their acclaimed Education HUB Blended Learning Program, earning multiple accolades, including the 2024 ABIA Educator of the Year Award and LearnX Blended Learning Program awards in 2022, 2023, and 2024.
Here to discuss the science behind HIFU from The Global Beauty Group, today we welcome Heather Vounnou.
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Today’s guest is Lisa Paone from derma aesthetics
With over 20 years of experience in the skincare and aesthetics industry, Lisa is the Head of Education at Derma Aesthetics, distributors of dermaviduals, SIMKA Skin, EXCEED Medical Microneedling, and more.
She leads the design and implementation of training programs that equip skincare professionals with the skills and knowledge to excel in a rapidly evolving field. Lisa’s approach to education focuses on empowerment, fostering not only technical proficiency but also a deep understanding of skin physiology. Her passion for hands-on, dynamic learning makes her a key figure in advancing skincare education at Derma Aesthetics.
Here to discuss the future of advanced educaton from derma aesthetics, today we welcome Lisa Paone.
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