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Not Just A Pony Ride
HETRA
145 episodes
4 days ago
Ever wanted to know more about Equine-Assisted Services (EAS) and Therapies? Join occupational therapist & PATH Intl CTRI, Kaiti Otte, as she explores the industry. Hear valuable education for instructors & therapists, insight on business strategies and all the reasons why horses are so impactful for our mental & physical health. This podcast is presented by Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy (HETRA), with over 35 years of experience in the EAS industry. Get all of our resources here: https://notjustaponyride.my.canva.site/linkinbio
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Ever wanted to know more about Equine-Assisted Services (EAS) and Therapies? Join occupational therapist & PATH Intl CTRI, Kaiti Otte, as she explores the industry. Hear valuable education for instructors & therapists, insight on business strategies and all the reasons why horses are so impactful for our mental & physical health. This podcast is presented by Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy (HETRA), with over 35 years of experience in the EAS industry. Get all of our resources here: https://notjustaponyride.my.canva.site/linkinbio
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Not Just A Pony Ride
138. Gravitational Insecurity and Fear While Mounted

In this episode, Kaiti Otte, OTD, OTR/L, PATH Intl. CTRI, builds on a topic recently explored in our Neurodivergent Mini Course—understanding how the vestibular system and gravitational insecurity can impact our participants’ experience. The question came up in our live office hours discussion that was part of the live course course.   Join us for the mini course at any time if you want to better understand how to support neurodivergent participants so they can truly thrive, not just get by.

Today, we take that discussion into the arena, looking specifically at how vestibular system sensitivity can create fear of heights or movement in adaptive riding settings. As instructors, recognizing and responding to these challenges can make all the difference in helping riders feel safe, supported, and successful. We examine how to make adaptations to maximize independence in horsemanship for participants who may struggle with this sensitivity. 

Join us in the Neurodivergent Mini Course now! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/NeurodivergentEducation

Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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2 weeks ago
13 minutes 38 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
137. Partnering with a Hospital for Equine Assisted Therapy with Rachel Elder of Agape

In this episode, we’re joined by Rachel Elder, PATH Intl. CTRI, CHA IRD, and Program Director at Agape in Cicero, Indiana, to explore the inner workings and far-reaching influence of Agape’s programs. Rachel shares insights into how Agape’s hippotherapy program operates through a unique hospital partnership, the interconnected nature of their equine-assisted services, and the organization’s legacy as it approaches its 40th anniversary.

What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

  • Hippotherapy Program Logistics & Partnerships. Rachel explains how Agape’s hippotherapy program is offered through a contracted partnership with a local hospital, allowing therapists and students to integrate real clinical experiences in an equine environment—bridging healthcare and horsemanship in powerful ways.
  • The Interconnectedness of Our Programs. Learn how Agape’s programs—hippotherapy, therapeutic riding, equine-assisted learning, and mobile outreach—are designed to complement one another. Rachel discusses how participants often transition from hippotherapy to therapeutic riding, continuing their progress and building confidence in new and meaningful ways that support physical, emotional, and social development.
  • Our Statewide Impact & Legacy. As Agape celebrates nearly 40 years of service, Rachel reflects on how the organization’s leadership and innovation have influenced nearly every equine-assisted services center in Indiana. It’s a story of collaboration, mentorship, and legacy—how one program’s success can lift and inspire an entire community.


Learn more about Agape and reach Rachel at www.agaperiding.org

Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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2 weeks ago
34 minutes 51 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
136. Horses as Partners in Mental Health

On this episode we are honoring World Mental Health Day.  The overall objective of World Mental Health Day is to raise awareness of mental health issues around the world and to mobilize efforts in support of mental health. I’m honored to share the work that HETRA does through our mental health services partnering with horses and on this episode to help spread the word is mental health therapist Kelli Hatzenbuehler. 

If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health, contact a mental health professional near you or call the national suicide prevention lifeline, 988.

Follow us on social and plug in here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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1 month ago
23 minutes 9 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
135. Evaluating Potential EAS Horses

You have identified a potential horse for your program and you’re ready to go take a look.  What you do at this initial visit is a pivotal part of setting your new herd members up for success.  What do you do while you’re there? How do you do a thorough investigation of their behaviors and medical status? Join us to hear how we do it at HETRA including some policies that we have that help save time, money and keep great herd prospects coming through our barn doors! 

Potential HETRA Horse Form: https://hetra.org/donate/horse-donation.html

Equine Welfare Mini Course: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/EASEquineWelfareMiniCourse

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1 month ago
27 minutes 17 seconds

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134. TEN TIPS for Improving Working Memory for EAS Participants

For many participants in equine-assisted services (EAS), challenges with memory can impact everything from following multi-step directions to staying engaged in a session. We’ll explore 10 practical, research-based tips for strengthening working memory that you can start using right away in your arena. 


Register now for the Neurodivergent Mini Course:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/NeurodivergentEducation

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1 month ago
12 minutes 26 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
133. Emergency Dismounts in EAS: What’s your Plan of Action?

In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we’re talking about one of the most critical skills for every Equine-Assisted Services team—emergency dismounts. Whether it’s a sudden horse reaction, a participant complication, or an environmental hazard, having a clear plan of action can make all the difference in keeping participants, volunteers, and horses safe. Expect to hear conversation around:

Creating a plan of action – why it’s essential and how to ensure every team member knows their role

Emergency Dismount Scenarios – What if your rider is independent? What if a horse is loose? What if There are other teams in the arena?

Practice & preparedness – how to build confidence so that everyone can act quickly and safely when it matters most. 

Plan of Action emergency dismount example is available on Patreon!:  www.patreon.com/notjustaponyride

Learn more about the EAS Workshop, HETRA University Live: Level Up and Lead! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/hul-level-up-landing

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2 months ago
30 minutes 4 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
132. Pairing Horses & Riders: Movement & Conformation

In this episode, we explore how a horse’s unique conformation and natural movement patterns directly influence the rider’s experience, posture, and progress.  Kaiti Otte, OT will discuss why we may pair different participants with certain horses including how different diagnoses and impairments may impact those decisions. 

Learn more about the EAS Workshop, HETRA University Live: Level Up and Lead! https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/hul-level-up-landing

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2 months ago
24 minutes 19 seconds

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131. Safety Stirrups: What options are right for your center?

The world of equine-assisted services is always evolving—and sometimes that means letting go of long-standing tools we’ve relied on for years. In this episode of Not Just a Pony Ride, we dive into the recent ban on peacock stirrups, a staple in many EAS programs, and explore what this change means for safety, accessibility, and your organization’s budget. We’ll discuss:

  • Why peacock stirrups are being phased out and the safety concerns behind the decision.
  • Alternative stirrup options now available for adaptive and therapeutic riding.
  • The financial impact of making the switch and how to plan for it.
  • Strategies for managing change within your staff, volunteers, and participants.
  • Tips for fundraising and budgeting to cover equipment updates.


Get our tips and example verbiage we used to apply for a grant to replace our peacock stirrups over on Patreon!:  www.patreon.com/notjustaponyride

Check out options for safety stirrups and LOTS more at  https://freedomrider.com/

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2 months ago
22 minutes 46 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
130.  Maintaining the Senior Horse - REPLAY

 In this replay from episode #21, we’re diving into maintaining our Steady Eddy’s.  We all have them and we love them - but how do we balance keeping them happy, healthy, sane and sound with our budget?  Shelby Schult, HETRA’s Program Director explains how we do that at HETRA including discussing conditioning regimens, vet work, nutrition supplements and more. 

GLC Joint Supplement:  https://kbchorsesupplies.com/glc-direct/

Equine Sustainability Mini Course:  https://hetra.org/education/register-for-webinars.html

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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3 months ago
23 minutes 54 seconds

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129. Having Hard Conversations in EAS: Why is it so hard? with Cindy Schwarz

In this episode, we dive into the challenges of having tough conversations in the equine-assisted services industry with leadership coach Cindy Schwarz from Ears Up Leadership. Why do we avoid hard discussions, even when they’re necessary? Cindy brings clarity and compassion to the topic, exploring the impact of scarcity mindset, our deep desire to be seen as "nice," and the emotional dynamics at play in tightly knit communities. Whether you’re running a program, working on a team, or just trying to speak up more effectively, this episode is packed with insights to help you lead with integrity and courage.

In this episode, we cover:

  • Practical tips for navigating hard conversations with grace and clarity
  • The power of behavioral congruence
  • Tools for diffusing tension before it escalates
  • Why leadership skills are really life skills (and how to grow them)
  • How understanding yourself — and your teammates — improves communication and builds trust


Book recommendation from Cindy:  Crucial Conversations (Amazon):  https://a.co/d/10xbCFX

Reach out to Cindy and learn more about her business at Ears up Leadership:  https://www.earsupleadership.com/

Learn more about HETRA University Live: Level up and Lead here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULLevelUp

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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3 months ago
45 minutes 50 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
128. Writing Social Stories:  Helping participants through new, changing or difficult tasks

 In today’s episode, we’re diving into social stories — those short, purposeful narratives designed to help people better understand specific situations, events, or tasks. You’ve probably heard of them, especially in the context of supporting neurodivergent children, including those with autism, ADHD, or challenges with transitions and change.  Social stories can be incredibly powerful tools — if they’re done right. But writing them isn’t just about being creative; it’s about being intentional. 

That’s why today, we’re breaking down:

  • What social stories are and who can benefit from them
  • Why they work (and when they don’t)
  • The step-by-step process to write a high-quality social story
  • Real-life EAS examples to guide you
  • A free downloadable resource to help you get started!


What to expect at your first evaluation video “social story”:  https://hetra.org/programming/participant-resources/getting-started.html

Access to the Neurodivergent mini course and other HETRA University webinars: https://hetra.org/education/register-for-webinars.html

Patreon link for the social story handout: www.patreon.com/notjustaponyride

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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4 months ago
25 minutes 52 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
127. Granting Wishes and Dreams in EAS with Kelly Jacobs from Dreamweaver Foundation

 In this episode, we explore how meaningful experiences and community connections can bring light and joy to older adults facing life-limiting illnesses. We’re honored to highlight our partnership with the Dreamweaver Foundation, an local organization dedicated to fulfilling dreams for seniors. Together, we’ve created unforgettable moments —where horses help bridge the gap between isolation and connection.

In this episode, we’ll cover:

  • The impact of loneliness in older adults and how joy-filled experiences can transform their outlook
  • Who qualifies for the Dreamweaver “Dream” program and how clients are selected
  • What a typical “Dream Day” looks like
  • What’s expected of community partners and how they help bring these dreams to life
  • How YOU can get involved in making magic happen for someone in your community

Learn more about the Dreamweaver Foundation here www.dreamweaver.org or @dreamweaverfoundation on Facebook and Instagram

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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4 months ago
30 minutes

Not Just A Pony Ride
126. The Ultimate Non-Profit Tip Roundup with The Papillion Community Foundation - REPLAY

 In this replay from episode #61, we’re diving into a powerful roundup of non-profit wisdom with highlights from our conversation with the former ED from the Papillion Community Foundation. Packed with actionable insights, this episode is your go-to guide for aligning your mission, building the right board, and leveling up your fundraising game.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • Why your budget and strategic plan are your true north stars
  • Smart strategies for an effective strategic planning process
  • Who should really be sitting on your board of directors
  • What your board should be doing for you
  • What donors and funders actually want to hear when you communicate your mission
  • Pro tips for hosting fundraising events that bring in both dollars and community support


This episode is an edited collection of Joe’s best advice, want the full conversation and more about the Papillion Community Foundation? Go back and listen to [Episode #61].

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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4 months ago
35 minutes 29 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
125. Power of Positive Affirmations with Isabela Amaral and Fred Ginman

Isabela Amaral is the proud mother of Fred Ginman — a resilient boy born extremely premature, diagnosed with Cerebral Palsy, who now inspires others through his story of overcoming physical challenges. Together, they co-created the children’s book “I Can, I Want To, and I Will!” — a powerful, heartwarming affirmation-based book that encourages children to believe in themselves no matter their circumstances. She believes in the power of love, creativity, and community to create a more inclusive and hopeful world.

Amazon Link to their book: https://a.co/d/6N67coRConnect with Isabela and Fred at www.empowerkidsminds.com

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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5 months ago
28 minutes 14 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
124.  Creating a Positive Culture for your Staff

In this episode, HETRA CEO Edye Godden is sharing with us how HETRA manages a healthy work culture. Tune in for real-world tools and reflections to help you lead with intention and keep what matters most at the center. 

Expect to hear: 

  • Getting to Know Your Team & Managing Conflict 
  • Work-Life Harmony and “family first” support.
  • Setting Boundaries at Work


Also, hear what tools we have used for staff development too!

  • Clifton Strengths Finder 
  • Gretchen Rubin’s ‘Four Tendencies’ Quiz:  https://gretchenrubin.com/quiz/the-four-tendencies-quiz/
  • Stay Interview - Get the copy of our questions on Patreon! patreon.com/notjustaponyride


Link for more information about HETRA University Live: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HULLevelUp

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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5 months ago
39 minutes 30 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
123. Healing from Eating Disorders with the Help of Horses with Barb Cotten, LMHP and Teresa Ryan BSN, RN

In this episode we are taking a look at an equine-assisted group program that specializes in helping those who are healing from eating disorders.  Teresa Ryan BSN, RN is here to give us a look inside the inpatient program that partners with Take Flight Farms and Barb Cotten, LMHP - who is also on the episode - sharing about the equine programming they offer.

Tune in to hear:

  • A look inside the Eating Disorders Inpatient and Partial Hospitalization Program at Children’s Nebraska 
  • How the hospital program partners with the equine program at Take Flight Farms
  • Benefits of the equine-assisted program for those with eating disorders
  • Program facilitation details like size, participants and examples of activities
  • Advice for starting a partnership for a program like this 


 Learn more about EAGALA on episode 42. Meet EAGALA! https://spotifycreators-web.app.link/e/MZRbOm8dzSb

Learn more about Take Flight Farms:  https://omahaequestrian.org/take-flight/

Learn more about the eating disorder program at Children’s Nebraska:  https://www.childrensnebraska.org/specialties/eating-disorders-program

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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5 months ago
41 minutes

Not Just A Pony Ride
122. No Show and Cancellation Policies in EAS

EAS services are different than going to soccer practice or getting therapy in an outpatient clinic.  When we miss a session in EAS, there are many assets still at stake-  volunteer time, scheduling time, getting the horse ready, allocating resources to different places to balance work loads etc. How do we give our participants grace while protecting our sustainability?  

Expect to hear:

  • The importance of clear communication regarding policies
  • HETRA Cancels vs. Participants Cancels vs. Not Scheduled
  • Crediting participants who are billed up front 
  • Differences in managing cancellations for therapy services vs. other programming


  Link to get our cancellation policy at Patreon:  patreon.com/notjustaponyride 

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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6 months ago
19 minutes 57 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
121. An EAS Program to Fill a Need:  What is the GAP Program at HETRA?

Learn all about a unique program at HETRA and how it has grown and developed in this episode with Edye Godden, OTR/L, PATH Intl. CTRI and the CEO of HETRA.  We wanted a program for our participants that weren’t exactly ready to transition to adaptive riding, but wanted more independence.  It could be that the participant needs skilled intervention occasionally for things like the mount/dismount, posture, position, communication, behavior or mental health — but that they are ready to learn more horsemanship skills, wallah the Group Activity Program (or GAP Program) was born!  

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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6 months ago
18 minutes 54 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
120. Healing from Sexual Abuse: Trauma, Horses and Resilience with Carol Odell

Seasoned psychotherapist Carol Odell's memoir “Girl, Groomed: A Therapist’s Memoir of Trauma” (She Writes Press, April 22, 2025) is an unflinching exploration of her journey to confront and heal from the complex trauma of childhood sexual abuse within the world of Virginia’s equestrian show-jumping circuit. Carol shares with us the impactful ways that horses helped her heal, including her unique experience in an equine-assisted therapy program.  

57. Polyvagal Theory: The Science of Feelings Safe & Equine Connection:  https://spotifycreators-web.app.link/e/sCq6DZecuSb

Connect with Carol Odell and get her book, “Girl Groomed:  A Therapist’s Memoir of Trauma” at www.carolodellmsw.com

This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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6 months ago
34 minutes 47 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
119. When do we Introduce the Bridle for our Participants?

Part of managing our horses physical and mental health during lessons is making sure our participants are prepared for their next jump in horsemanship.  Let’s talk about when to introduce the bit and bridle!  How do we stay fair to our horses while helping our participants improve their independence? Expect to hear: 

  • Reining in a Halter vs. Reining in a bridle 
  • Why does HETRA only use snaffle bits in sessions? 
  • Preparing horses for using bridles in lessons 
  • Preparing participants for using bridles - including HETRA’s checklist.

NEW Mini Course Launching May 1st! Equine Welfare: Sustainability & Success - learn more and register now here: https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/EASEquineWelfareMiniCourse

Get the Level 2 Participant Skill checklist with a subscription to Patreon, learn more here:  patreon.com/notjustaponyride


This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

Follow us on social and plug in here:  https://hetrauniversity.mykajabi.com/HETRAUniversityLinks

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6 months ago
28 minutes 19 seconds

Not Just A Pony Ride
Ever wanted to know more about Equine-Assisted Services (EAS) and Therapies? Join occupational therapist & PATH Intl CTRI, Kaiti Otte, as she explores the industry. Hear valuable education for instructors & therapists, insight on business strategies and all the reasons why horses are so impactful for our mental & physical health. This podcast is presented by Heartland Equine Therapeutic Riding Academy (HETRA), with over 35 years of experience in the EAS industry. Get all of our resources here: https://notjustaponyride.my.canva.site/linkinbio