In this episode, we dive into the challenges of having tough conversations in the equine-assisted services industry with leadership coach Cindy Schwarz from Ears Up Leadership. Why do we avoid hard discussions, even when they’re necessary? Cindy brings clarity and compassion to the topic, exploring the impact of scarcity mindset, our deep desire to be seen as "nice," and the emotional dynamics at play in tightly knit communities. Whether you’re running a program, working on a team, or just trying to speak up more effectively, this episode is packed with insights to help you lead with integrity and courage.

In this episode, we cover:

• Practical tips for navigating hard conversations with grace and clarity
• The power of behavioral congruence
• Tools for diffusing tension before it escalates
• Why leadership skills are really life skills (and how to grow them)
• How understanding yourself — and your teammates — improves communication and builds trust

Book recommendation from Cindy:  Crucial Conversations (Amazon):  https://a.co/d/10xbCFX

Reach out to Cindy and learn more about her business at Ears up Leadership:  https://www.earsupleadership.com/

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This episode is proudly sponsored by Freedom Rider:  https://freedomrider.com/

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