What do a McDonald’s, a rusted van, and an Appalachian Trail record have in common? Warren Doyle. On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast I am joined by the legend Warren Doyle — educator, endurance icon, and Appalachian Trail philosopher — for an unfiltered, no-bobblehead conversation about FKTs, culture clashes, and the soul of long-distance hiking.
Warren recounts his 1973 AT speed record (before we even called them FKTs), discusses the evolution of trail culture, and shares stories of creeks, canteens, creek showers, and a boot gone rogue. We explore the role of endurance vs. speed, why “tempo” matters more than terrain, and what today’s hikers can learn from the past — if they’re willing to listen.
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Plus: reflections on Liz “Mercury” Durstine, Tara Dower, Scott Jurek, and the future of the ATC. Oh, and we discuss why “Don’t bring the world with you” might just be the best trail advice you’ll hear this year.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Legends
02:55 Warren Doyle's Journey and Motivation
05:59 Planning and Preparation for the Appalachian Trail
09:00 Challenges Faced on the Trail
12:01 The Emotional Journey and Sense of Purpose
14:56 Endurance vs. Speed: The Philosophy of Hiking
17:55 The Impact of Media and Public Perception
21:08 The Evolution of Endurance Records
23:44 The Future of the Appalachian Trail
26:36 The Role of Community and Support
29:29 Lessons from Liz Durstine Mercury's Journey
32:28 Comparing Northbound and Southbound Hikes
35:31 The Importance of Sleep and Recovery
38:22 Navigating the Trail's Terrain and Challenges
41:21 The Cultural Shift of the Appalachian Trail
44:07 Final Thoughts and Advice for Future Hikers
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On this episode of The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by White Mountains legend and community builder Andrew Drummond to dive deep into the Direttissima—an FKT linking all 48 of New Hampshire’s 4,000-foot peaks in one unsupported push. Think Nolan’s 14 but with more rocks, more bushwhacks, and significantly more emotional damage.
We cover Andrew’s recent sub-5-day effort, the strategic "feathering" of effort in multi-day sufferfests, and why hiking in the Whites feels like the trail is actively trying to kill you. We also talk about the evolution of FKTs, the importance of local knowledge, and why the Beast Coast terrain is no joke.
Andrew reflects on building a community through Ski the Whites and Run the Whites, putting on grassroots events, and embracing failure as a necessary—and often hilarious—step in the process.
Whether you’re an FKT nerd, an East Coast trail masochist, or just want a glimpse into what makes the White Mountains so special (and spicy), this one’s for you.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Direttissima
02:56 Understanding the Route and Its Challenges
05:55 The Evolution of Speed Records
09:03 Feathering the Route: Strategy and Mindset
12:12 Navigating Physical and Mental Challenges
14:53 The Importance of Community and Local Knowledge
17:56 The Unique Terrain of the White Mountains
20:50 Reflections on Experience and Growth
24:00 The Future of Trail Running in the Northeast
36:15 Embracing the Journey of Outdoor Adventures
39:34 The Allure of the Appalachian Trail
46:18 Navigating Challenges on the Trail
50:32 The Art of Event Planning in the Outdoors
01:01:37 Overcoming Fear and Embracing Failure
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I finally got Allison Powell—producer, ultrarunner, and now bonafide backpacker—on the podcast to talk about her first solo thru-hike: the Wonderland Trail. Spoiler alert: she tried to bring hummus, carrots, and a full picnic on a 90+ mile, three-day solo trip around Mount Rainier. But somehow, despite a heavy pack, trail math struggles, and losing her travel mug to the forest gods, she pulled it off.
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In this episode, we break down how a seasoned ultrarunner transitions (read: suffers) into backpacking, what she learned about weight, gear, solo hiking, and bear hangs, and how her view of thru-hiking shifted after 14-hour days of nothing but walking, couscous, and waterfalls. This is an honest, hilarious, and pretty relatable first-time thru-hiker story—and maybe even a cautionary tale.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Wonderland Trail Adventure
05:32 The Challenges of Backpacking Alone
11:29 Lessons Learned from the Journey
17:11 Navigating the Trail and Overcoming Obstacles
23:15 Final Thoughts and Future Plans
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What do wildfires, the Arizona desert, and the Oregon Coast have in common? They’ve all tried—and failed—to stop Katie Gunvalson, aka Raven. In this episode, I catch up with Jeffrey Award winner and self-supported FKT crusher Katie after her overall record on the Oregon Coast Trail, where she took the long way and still came out fastest.
This is the full-circle redemption arc. Katie first came on the podcast after her PCT FKT was stopped by a wildfire on day one. Since then? She’s failed a few more times (we all have—ask Nick), kept showing up, and finally broke through with one of the coolest FKTs around—one that involves tide timing, beach running, and some major resilience.
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We talk about what it means to chase something hard, to fail publicly, and to come back swinging. Katie shares the real stuff—motivation, self-worth, wanting to compete with the big names at Cocodona (hey Jamil, you listening?), and why this record mattered more than any other.
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And a reminder: I’m currently out chasing an Appalachian Trail FKT and raising money for The Trevor Project—because using our niche little sport to support people who feel different can actually make a difference. Link in bio to support. Stay elite, my friends.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Award Banter
03:00 Setting the Oregon Coast Trail FKT
06:01 Navigating Challenges on the Trail
08:58 Resupply Strategies and Nutrition
12:02 Training for the FKT
15:03 Mental Preparation and Overcoming Doubts
17:55 The Final Push and Weather Challenges
20:57 Crossing the Finish Line
23:54 Reflections on Failure and Success
26:49 Community Support in FKTs
29:48 Future Aspirations and Goals
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When you hear this, I will have started the Appalachian Trail Self Supported FKT attempt. Track it here: https://corsa.run/live/freeoutside/
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In this episode, I sit down (virtually) with the Dictator of FKTs, Allison Mercer, for a last-minute chat about how the heck I got here: from failed FedEx deliveries and lost shoes, to spending $500 shipping food across the eastern seaboard, to testing gear and nutrition in the White Mountains while pretending I still had a home address.
We talk about why I chose the AT, why I’m going southbound, why self-supported FKTs are my favorite kind of chaos, and how I’m channeling all my energy into something bigger than myself—raising $10 per mile for The Trevor Project, an organization making a real impact on mental health and LGBTQ+ youth.
We also cover:
Why I eat Costco pizza for performance
My obsession with spreadsheets
Visualizing failure so it doesn’t surprise you
And how rocks in your shoes are the new weighted vest
It’s chaotic, heartfelt, and packed with bad ideas and good intentions. If you want to follow along with my attempt, track me, or donate to the cause, check the show notes or visit my Linktree. And thanks for being part of this wild, weird ride.
Now I guess I better go hike 2,200 miles. Like it’s hard.
– Jeff
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the FKT Journey
00:28 Supporting the Trevor Project
00:39 Preparing for the FKT Challenge
06:19 The Allure of the Appalachian Trail
10:46 Overcoming Hurdles and Challenges
13:21 Mental Resilience and Problem Solving
18:56 Testing Gear and Nutrition
28:40 Fundraising for Mental Health Awareness
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I’m joined by the legend himself—John Kelly—just about a month after his Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. We go deep. Like "0.1 miles felt like a day" kind of deep.
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John opens up about the logistics, the emotional toll, the storm-soaked first week, and the injury that brought a nearly successful record run to a halt with just 300 miles to go. We get into the mental shifts that come with long efforts, how to manage a massive support team, and how his body literally stopped cooperating.
He talks through mistakes made, lessons learned, and whether he’ll ever go back. He also dishes out advice for anyone attempting a self-supported effort (cough like me in less than a week cough) and reflects on what he learned about the trail—and himself.
This is a raw and real conversation with someone who’s done more miles than most of us have steps. Thanks for listening. Stay elite, my friends.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Appalachian Trail Attempt
02:58 The Journey to the FKT Record
06:06 Adapting to the Trail and Body Changes
08:51 Planning and Support Dynamics
12:07 Challenges Faced on the Trail
15:01 The Role of Support Crew
17:59 Daily Video Updates and Family Involvement
21:06 Emotional Rollercoaster of the Attempt
23:52 Reflections on the Experience
27:04 Advice for Future Hikers
30:07 Final Thoughts and Future Plans
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What the Heck Is an FKT? (And Why I'm Living in the Woods for 45 Days)
Live from a very cabin-y cabin in Montana, I bring you an episode for everyone wondering, what even is an Appalachian Trail FKT? I’m joined by the queen of Fastest Known Times herself, Allison Mercer, to break it all down. We cover the wild world of FKTs—from how they started, to the different styles (unsupported, self-supported, supported), what’s allowed, what’s not, and how you can go set your own.
Whether you’re a longtime endurance nerd or just discovering FKTs, this episode sets the stage for my own upcoming Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. We also wrap up with hot takes on the state of ultrarunning, competition, and keeping the sport weird (but fair).
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CS Instant Coffee https://www.csinstant.coffee/
—because Starbucks VIA is banned from this podcast.
Podcast Chapters
00:00 – Cabin Life & AT Kickoff
02:00 – What the Heck Is an FKT?
06:15 – Supported vs. Self-Supported vs. Unsupported
11:10 – The History of FKTs
15:45 – The Role of FastestKnownTime.com
20:00 – How to Plan Your Own FKT
25:40 – Style Integrity and FKT Ethics
31:00 – Popular FKTs & Famous Examples
36:20 – Why FKTs Exploded Post-COVID
41:00 – Jeff’s AT Attempt: Style, Strategy, and Why
47:10 – Live Coverage, Hidden Content, and Patreon Support
52:30 – Opinions on Pacers, Media Gimmicks & Race Culture
58:20 – Final Tips & Trail Wisdom
01:01:00 – Sponsor Shoutouts & Wrap-Up
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Circle of Hell Run (COHR), Chef Boyardee, and Sweat Salt Wisdom with Bryce Brooks
I’m joined by the undisputed king of dry-heat suffering, Bryce Brooks. He’s now a three-time champion of the infamous Circle of Hell Run—a 3-hour looped sufferfest in Phoenix held during the hottest part of the hottest day of the year. We dig into exactly how to win a heat race with 200 pounds of ice, salt pills by the fistful, and ice bandana swaps that would make an F1 pit crew jealous.
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We also dive deep into Bryce’s work behind the scenes at Aravaipa, his thoughts on live-streaming gimmicks vs performance, creative pacer rules, and what's next for the ever-expanding race organization. From blacked-out cars with no AC to ravioli-fueled recoveries, this one is part heat survival guide, part comedy, part ode to the ultrarunning grind. My favorite story is the time met Jamil Coury and Courtney Dauwalter at Cocodona 250!
Buckle up. It's a dry heat, but the content is fire.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Circle of Hell Run
03:07 Winning Strategies and Crew Dynamics
06:04 Race Strategy and Managing Heat
08:59 Nutrition and Hydration in Extreme Conditions
11:54 The Atmosphere and Community of the Race
15:05 Personal Reflections and Future Aspirations
24:05 Racing and Content Creation Challenges
26:55 Capturing the Highlights of Ultra Races
31:02 The Role of Gimmicks in Racing
35:44 Jamil's Unique Approach to Racing and Content
38:59 Aerovipa's Growth and Event Expansion
42:26 Underrated Events and the Crown King Scramble
44:41 The Rise of Cocodona and Its Popularity
45:20 Cocodona's Rich History and Diverse Biomes
46:20 Evolution of the Live Stream Experience
47:23 First Encounters and Memorable Moments
47:57 The Wild Ride of the First Year
48:44 Hitchhiking Adventures and Unexpected Encounters
51:31 Post-Race Reflections and Decisions
54:54 Transitioning to a New Career Path
57:03 Upcoming Races and Future Plans
58:48 Crew Dynamics and Race Strategies
01:00:39 Debating Pacer Policies in Ultra Races
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For this Appalachian Trail FKT, I realized I have to become one with the thru-hiker. That means mud baths, tarp life, eating with my hands, and yes—training while also working a remote job from the literal woods. This episode is a stitched-together recap of my second big training camp, where I logged over 300 miles and 80,000 feet of vert in the hardest terrain the AT has to offer.
I kick things off with a midnight arrival in Bangor and a 2.7-mile walk to my hotel (because, of course, there were no Ubers). From there, it’s all rain, roots, bugs, busted toes, and resupply strategy. I test out nearly every piece of gear I plan to use on the FKT—including my hilariously short sleeping bag and a tarp that may or may not survive the Whites. I hike through mud pits, scale ladders, eat questionable trail food, and rediscover the terrifying beauty of the Kennebec River—the same one I swam across back in 2016 like an idiot.
Along the way, I also get an infected toe, limp into urgent care covered in dirt, try not to scare Ivy League joggers with my homeless-looking setup, and wrestle with one of my biggest fears: talking to people in small-town resupply stores.
This camp wasn’t about big miles (although I still hit plenty). It was about dialing in the uncomfortable stuff—nutrition, logistics, clothing, sleep strategy, and reminding myself just how hard this trail really is. I’m equal parts confident and scared for August, which probably means I’m right where I need to be.
Thanks for listening, supporting, and laughing along with the chaos. Stay elite, my friends.
Chapters
00:00 Embarking on the Appalachian Trail Journey
05:44 Training Camp Insights and Challenges
10:27 Navigating the Tough Terrain
14:53 Injury and Recovery
19:26 Gear and Nutrition Strategies
23:09 Final Thoughts and Preparations for the Record Attempt
26:44 EE0FAD58-2502-4A21-A3EF-BD29BCCE281E.MP4
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In this solo episode of the Free Outside Show, I dive into something I’ve been thinking about (and living through) for a while—the difference between pro runners and influencers in the trail running world. Who actually drives the sport forward? Who sells the shoes? And where do we go from here?
I break down how pros validate performance and products, while influencers excel at storytelling and getting people off the couch. I explore why brands struggle to invest in athlete content and what we need to do better—like athlete-influencer integration, content allowances in contracts, and actually showing the personalities behind the podiums.
This episode has hot takes, real examples (no brand shade, I swear), and maybe even a solution to the future of sponsorships in outdoor sports. Whether you're a runner, creator, or just someone trying to figure out how to get that elusive gear deal—this one’s for you.
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Chapters
00:00 Runners vs Influencers: An Introduction
00:49 Defining Pro Runners and Influencers
03:10 The Workload of Pro Runners
05:54 The Role of Influencers in Trail Running
09:06 Finding the Middle Ground
11:57 The Importance of Brand Storytelling
14:52 Investing in Athlete Content Creation
17:45 Building Trust in the Running Community
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I’m recording this one live from a hotel room in New Hampshire that sounds like a prison cell and smells like ambition. I’m in the middle of my second training camp for the Appalachian Trail FKT, and things are getting real—mud to the thighs, toe infections, and 11,000-foot gain days kind of real.
In this episode, I dive into what a training camp actually looks like when you’re prepping for 40+ days on the trail. I talk through the three pillars I focus on: specificity, recovery, and decision-making. I’ve been testing everything—food, gear, pacing, and even how to manage trail funk when your sleeping bag feels like it was made for a child.
I share the strange culture of the AT, including cigarette-smoking thru-hikers, prideful locals, and the absolute chaos that is the Mahoosuc Notch. I’ve also got some gear insights, like why I sent one pair of shorts home and committed to the other, and how I’m planning to eat the same (awful?) things for over a month straight.
I’m out here juggling coaching, podcasting, and prepping for the biggest effort of my life—with a laptop and microphone in my backpack, no permanent home, and way too many miles to think clearly. It’s all part of the adventure.
Shoutout to Garage Grown Gear, Janji.com (use code freeoutside for a discount of… let’s say somewhere between 0% and 100%), and CS Coffee for supporting this wild journey.
Let me know what your favorite high-calorie trail foods are, and maybe I’ll throw them in my pack. Thanks for listening—and as always, stay elite, my friends.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene
01:07 Training Camp Insights
07:51 Challenges on the Appalachian Trail
12:52 Cultural Observations and Trail Experiences
16:12 Preparing for the Future
In this episode of The Free Outside Show, I’m diving into something that might sound silly at first—being a fan. Whether it’s the NFL, NBA playoffs, Western States, or obsessively refreshing the live tracker at Cocodona, I argue that being a fan matters. It builds community, creates connection, and honestly, just makes life more fun. So this is a passionate, slightly ranty defense of why you should let yourself care—about your favorite athletes, races, and even trail drama.
Along the way, I talk Montana Meltdown (our September race), show off my Janji shorts, and spiral into a few tangents about public lands, nationalism, and the shocking lack of trail running trash talk. This one's for the people who hit refresh on UltraSignup for fun.
Also—I might be temporarily homeless by the time this drops. So please like, share, and maybe mail me a tent.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Free Outside Show
01:12 In Defense of Being a Fan
03:12 The Importance of Community in Sports
06:00 Embracing Fandom in Ultra Sports
10:16 The Power of Being a Fan
12:12 Conclusion and Community Engagement
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I’m alive in Bangor, Maine — a sentence that somehow feels like the opening line of a novel. In this episode of the Free Outside Show, I walk you through my chaotic arrival to the start of my Appalachian Trail FKT training camp, including a 1 a.m. walk from the airport (no Ubers in Bangor, apparently) and my deep dive into specificity. I’m testing everything: my exact 7,000-calorie-per-day nutrition, gear kit, FKT pacing strategy, and resupply logistics — all in the hardest section of the trail.
I also talk about working on the road, training smart, respecting the difficulty of the White Mountains, and building the blueprint for a successful AT attempt. Plus: some sponsor shoutouts to Garage Grown Gear, CS Instant Coffee, and Janji (yes, I am currently dressed head-to-toe in Janji gear — including the pockets I’ll be eating out of for the next 40+ days).
Want to support the mission? Check out patreon.com/freeoutside — and until next time, stay elite, my friends.
Sound Bites
"I just went to Tim Hortons."
"I got from Garage Grown Gear."
"Life's pretty crazy, you know?"
Chapters
00:00 Journey to Bangor, Maine
03:22 Training for the Appalachian Trail
10:27 Preparation and Gear for the Trail
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Today on The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the legendary Cam Hanes—bowhunter, ultrarunner, lifter of heavy things, and yes, friend of Joe Rogan. We dive into everything from Courtney Dauwalter’s mountain mindset to how Disneyland became a tactical hunting joke with a laser pointer (thanks, Joe).
Cam shares his thoughts on the growing influencer side of trail running, Western States carnage, public lands politics, and what he really thinks about ultrarunning's obsession with science and splits. We talk about grit, quitting, suffering, and why lifting weights is somehow less cool than ultrarunning. Plus: what hunters and trail runners can learn from each other, and why Cam still calls himself an outsider in this space.
If you're into raw takes, wild stories, and the occasional Keep Hoeing joke—this one’s for you. From the Taylor Swift of Ultrarunning, meet Cam Hanes!
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🎧 Episode Chapters
00:00 – Cam Hanes Intro
02:30 – Small Town Ties
05:00 – First Ultra Story
08:20 – Ranking Communities
11:30 – Courtney Dauwalter Talk
14:00 – Love the Process
18:00 – Cocodona Doubts
22:00 – Crew Tricks & COVID
25:30 – Public Lands Rant
30:30 – Rogan Disneyland Story
34:00 – Quitting vs Grit
41:00 – Jeff’s AT Record Goal
46:00 – Western States Opinions
53:00 – Hunting Misconceptions
55:45 – Final Thoughts & Goodbyes
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This week on the Free Outside Podcast, I'm joined by repeat guest and newly crowned Lavaredo 120K podium finisher Alyssa Clark. We talk all things Lavaredo—what makes this epic European race special (aside from the 11 PM start and absurd elevation gain), how she ran within striking distance of Courtney Dauwalter, and how pink hair and frogs helped her stay grounded mid-race.
But that’s just the start.
Alyssa opens up about the team she’s built around her—nutritionist, mental coach, agent, husband, and even the cats. We go deep on how her mental game has evolved, why she talks to frogs mid-ultra, and how rewriting internal narratives (with the help of a herd of mental sheep) has changed everything.
We also dig into where the sport is heading—development pipelines, the blurry line between influencers and athletes, why agents matter, and how media obligations are shifting as trail running professionalizes.
If you’ve ever wanted to hear two runners talk about therapy, shoes, mentorship, contracts, and night running tunnel vision all in one episode, this is your jam.
Chapters
00:00 Exploring Lava-Eido: A Unique Race Experience
02:50 Race Day Strategies: Preparing for a Night Start
05:48 The Influence of Competition: Running Against the Best
09:10 Race Planning: Balancing Goals and Performance
11:59 Building a Support Team: The Importance of Collaboration
14:53 Nutrition Strategies: Tailoring Fuel for Performance
17:46 Mental Resilience: Strategies for Self-Compassion
20:56 Embracing Identity: Overcoming Past Challenges
23:55 Mindfulness in Racing: Staying Present
26:46 Training for Mental Toughness: The Role of Discomfort
29:48 The Future of Ultra Running: Evolving Support Systems
32:14 The Mental Game in Ultra Running
34:01 Breaking Into the Sport: Challenges and Opportunities
36:19 The Importance of Mentorship and Development in Ultra Running
38:32 Respecting the Elders: Learning from Experience
40:04 Navigating the Influencer vs. Professional Athlete Landscape
44:35 The Role of Brands in Athlete Development
52:20 Building Confidence in Uphill Running
55:31 The Role of Agents in an Athlete's Career
58:08 Media Obligations and Athlete Performance
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Western States 100 needed an awards show—so we made one. I’m joined by Allison Mercer for the first-ever Westees, a highly serious, extremely prestigious, and entirely made-up award show for the 2025 Western States 100.
We hand out awards like:
BDE: Big Dad Energy
Michigan "Bluff" Award (for premature blowups
Scuba Steve Award
I’m Not Back, I’m Better Award
The Cougar of the Field
The Zach Miller Lookalike Award
...and of course,
Jeff of the Day
We also break down the biggest performances, the carnage, the drama, the livestream chaos, trail fashion disasters, questionable pacing decisions, and how Killian somehow still looks fresh after 100 miles.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Westees Awards
06:08 The Women's Race Highlights
11:58 The Men's Race Highlights
21:45 Awards and Recognitions
28:55 Reflections on Performance and Training
30:25 Celebrating Chris Myers and Brooks' Impact
33:05 The Performance of Hoka and Unsponsored Athletes
39:24 Mo Money, Mo Problems: The Pressure of Sponsorships
42:53 The Rise of Women in Ultra Running
47:00 The Need for Better Storytelling in Ultra Running
51:58 Age is Just a Number: Inspiring Performances
54:58 Consistency and Experience: The Legacy of Jeff Browning
55:57 Hans and His Journey
01:00:00 Sponsorships and Their Impact
01:05:00 Awards and Recognition
01:10:03 FKTs and Trail Challenges
01:15:07 Reflections on the Appalachian Trail
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Western States may be the most iconic race in ultrarunning—but it also comes with carnage, heartbreak, and a pile of DNS and DNF drama. In this episode, I’m joined by the always-entertaining Allison Mercer (of FastestKnownTime.com) to break down the storylines, the runners who didn’t make it to the start line, and wild ideas to spice up the sport (spoiler: mile-seeding starts for elites?).
We also dive into the FKT world—John Kelly’s latest madness, what’s changing in the scene, and why FKTs still matter. Plus, I give a quick life update because I’m moving out, living out of a storage unit, and heading out for an Appalachian Trail FKT attempt.
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Chapters
00:00 In Memoriam: The Unbreakable List
02:05 The Impact of Social Media on Performance
04:58 The Women's Field: Intriguing Storylines
07:46 The Men's Field: A New Dynamic
10:48 The Role of Coaches and Competitors
13:54 Heat Training and Its Influence
16:54 Predictions for the Race
19:53 The Unsung Heroes of Coverage
22:41 Final Thoughts and Predictions
33:32 The Rising Stars of Trail Running
34:47 Analyzing the Men's Field Dynamics
37:13 Des Linden: The Most Valuable Pacer
40:26 Women Transitioning from Road to Trail
42:28 The Importance of Recovery in Ultra Running
48:50 The Impact of Social Media on Athletes
53:02 John Kelly's FKT Attempt: A Community Effort
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I just ran the Bighorn 100—no pacers, no headphones, and absolutely no planning. In this episode, I share the full breakdown of how I tackled Wyoming’s classic 100-miler while juggling life stress, sleep deprivation, and a recent pacing stint on the Pacific Crest Trail. From garbage bag drop bags to a ramen-fueled revival at mile 48, this race was anything but conventional.
I talk about the wildflowers, the relentless climbs, the raw and rugged vibe of the race, and why I chose to run it in the middle of prepping for my Appalachian Trail FKT attempt. I also dive into the mental side of ultrarunning—what it means to finish, to recalibrate goals mid-race, and to stop caring about optics when you’re throwing up on the side of a mountain.
This is a race recap, a therapy session, and a reality check all rolled into one. Whether you're training for a 100 or just want to hear how I managed to survive a race with no taper, a busted ankle, and two weeks of pacing fatigue, this one’s for you.
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Let’s get into it.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Recent Adventures
01:54 The Big Horn 100 Experience
12:02 Challenges Faced During the Race
17:51 Lessons Learned and Reflections
25:07 Looking Ahead to Future Goals
In this brutally honest solo episode, I unpack what’s been the most stressful month of my life—losing my apartment, unresolved medical issues, financial pressure, and trying to prep for a 100-miler I haven’t even packed for. Oh yeah, and I’m attempting a self-supported Appalachian Trail FKT in less than a month. No big deal.
But it’s not all chaos. I reflect on the finite nature of miles, what "best" really means, and why shared suffering for the wrong reasons is never worth it. I read from Mike Versteeg’s powerful Colorado Trail FKT post and explore how ego, purpose, and community collide in our outdoor pursuits. If you've ever questioned the "why" behind your adventures—or what you’re asking others to carry for your dreams—this one’s worth a listen.
Mike Versteeg's Colorado Trail: https://satisfyrunning.com/blogs/possessed/colorado-trail-fkt-field-notes
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Life's Challenges
01:30 The Finite Nature of Miles
06:08 Lessons from Failure and Community
09:44 Embracing Adventure Amidst Uncertainty
On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by coach, ultra runner, and creator Justin Andreas—aka Running in Stash. We talk about his wild transformation from jacked military bodybuilder to golden hour 100-miler finisher and trail coach. We dive deep into his life in Alaska, where training includes moose dodging, sub-zero treadmill marathons, and running in negative 49 degrees… in a singlet.
We cover everything from his Bighorn 100 tips (mud. lots of mud.) to racing in sandals, brushing teeth mid-ultra, taper meltdowns, and why the golden hour might be the most inspiring part of the sport. We even dish out spicy takes on Spring Energy, toothbrush resets, and how coaching is more about emotional support than the perfect workout.
Whether you're a mid-pack legend or an aspiring 200-mile cowboy, this episode brings wisdom, laughs, and plenty of stories from the far north. Also, stay for Justin’s mantra: “Don’t be a hero in the first half. Don’t be a b*tch in the second.”
Chapters
00:00 From Bodybuilding to Ultra Running: A Journey of Transformation
02:59 Preparing for the Bighorn 100: Insights and Experiences
05:58 The Unique Culture of Ultra Running: Community and Support
08:50 Training in Extreme Conditions: The Alaska Experience
11:57 Wildlife Encounters: Running with Nature's Challenges
15:01 The Golden Hour: Celebrating Every Finish
18:05 Learning from Experience: Coaching and Personal Growth
20:55 Mindset Matters: Mantras and Mental Resilience
29:57 Running Rituals and Playful Competition
30:56 The Joy of Running in Sandals
32:49 Camaraderie in Racing
33:22 Physical Fitness Tests in the Air Force
34:33 Lessons from Nutrition Mistakes
38:00 The Magic of Teeth Brushing During Races
40:31 Embracing the Taper
44:47 The Freedom of Trail Running
48:33 The Value of Having a Coach
51:37 Excitement for Upcoming Races
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