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CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Drift
93 episodes
7 months ago
Welcome to CMO Conversations – a podcast that takes you inside the mind of the modern CMO. Every other week, Drift CMO Tricia Gellman sits down with a different CMO and goes deep on their experience. What did their path to becoming a CMO look like? What advice do they have for up-and-coming marketers? What’s their superpower? And how do they navigate the challenges of a role that's constantly evolving? Because if there's one thing today's CMO can count on – it's change.
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Welcome to CMO Conversations – a podcast that takes you inside the mind of the modern CMO. Every other week, Drift CMO Tricia Gellman sits down with a different CMO and goes deep on their experience. What did their path to becoming a CMO look like? What advice do they have for up-and-coming marketers? What’s their superpower? And how do they navigate the challenges of a role that's constantly evolving? Because if there's one thing today's CMO can count on – it's change.
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Episodes (20/93)
CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Putting the Revenue in Marketing with Elle Woulfe (VP of Marketing at PathFactory)
On this episode of the Marketing Swipe File, DG sits down with marketing technology veteran Elle Woulfe, VP of Marketing at PathFactory. Before joining PathFactory, Elle built her career at Lattice Engines, Eloqua, and Backupify where she became well-known for her B2B demand gen and account-based marketing chops. Elle talks to DG about all things ABM, marketing to marketers, setting SEO goals, building and managing remote teams, the secrets to growing your career in marketing, and much more.
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2 years ago
29 minutes 48 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
7 Marketing Books That Have Shaped My Career
On this episode of the Marketing Swipe File, DG talks about how he went from being someone who avoided books like the plague – to someone who loves reading and learning. So what was the catalyst for this change? DG started picking up books about copywriting, direct response marketing, social psychology. Over the last few years, he’s amassed a huge library of marketing books. Want to find out the books that have influenced him the most? Listen to the full episode.
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2 years ago
8 minutes 47 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The Next Frontier of B2B Buying with Bevy's Steven Broudy
In this episode of the Marketing Swipe File, Dave chats with Steven Broudy, former Ranger Sniper Team Leader in the U.S. Army and currently Head of Sales at Bevy. Together Dave and Steven talk about how technology has changed the way people buy and why it's important to activate, build, and scale your community around your brand and product – both online and in-person. Want to hear Steven's take on imposter syndrome and the reason why he's worn a Hawaiian shirt every day for more than a year? Listen to the full episode.
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2 years ago
46 minutes 46 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The 10 Commandments for Modern Marketing
You know how you get down those Instagram rabbit holes where you suddenly find yourself on some random profile and have no idea how you got there? That's how DG came up with the idea for this episode. He stumbled upon on the profile of some celebrity trainer he had never heard of, and started reading a post they shared on their 10 commandments for training. And DG liked the idea so much that he sat down in that moment to write down the 10 marketing rules that Drift lives by, like using social proof (aka your customer's words) whenever and wherever you can. Want the other nine commandments? Listen to the full episode.
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2 years ago
14 minutes 37 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The Secret to Killing Writer's Block
Are you stuck? Hitting a creative wall? Brain just not working like you want it to? Hey, we've all been there. So on this episode of the Marketing Swipe File, DG shares his four-step formula for getting unstuck and beating writer's block. Give it a listen and you'll be coming up with better ideas in no time.
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2 years ago
7 minutes 9 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The #1 Skill Missing in B2B Marketers
"Would I respond to this?" That's the question DG asks himself before he sends an email, makes a deck, writes copy for a landing page, or records a podcast episode. Because when there's so much noise already in the market, the worst thing you can do is forget to treat your buyers like humans. So in this episode, DG talks about how you can take the #1 skill that most B2B marketers are missing, turn it into your advantage, and start having more conversations with buyers.
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2 years ago
6 minutes 28 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The Relationship Between Sales & Marketing with Drift CRO Josh Allen
DG sits down with Josh Allen, Drift's Chief Revenue Officer, to go behind the scenes and talk about the sales and marketing teams at Drift, playing the long game, and what's different about marketing in 2019 vs. 2009.
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2 years ago
28 minutes 13 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Is The Traditional Marketing Funnel Dead_
DG sits down with Kate Adams (VP of Demand Generation at Drift) to talk about a big change she recently made to the marketing funnel at Drift.
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2 years ago
35 minutes 18 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
What It Really Means To Be A CMO In 2020 (SEBA International’s Kate Bullis)
If you asked 100 people what a CMO does, chances are you’ll get 100 different answers. Kate Bullis knows this struggle all too well. Now Kate may not be a CMO, but as the co-founder and managing partner at SEBA International Executive Search, she dedicates a lot of her time working with clients to define what they need in a CMO – and then finding the right person for the job. Over the years she’s worked with companies ranging from venture-backed startups to Fortune 500 brands, and across digital, technology, CPG, professional, and financial services. Suffice to say, Kate knows what top companies are looking for in marketing leaders (and she knows the marketing leaders who can get the job done). In this episode, Kate and Tricia talk about everything a CMO is (and is not), plus why now is the time for CMOs to rally their companies around brand and experience.
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2 years ago
40 minutes 41 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Why Mental Health And Vulnerability Belong In The Workplace (With G2’s Ryan Bonnici)
Ryan Bonnici stopped setting his therapy sessions as 'private' on his work calendar. And he wasn't quite prepared for what happened next. Because by openly sharing his own struggles with mental health in the workplace and being vulnerable, the CMO of G2 showed his team that they could be vulnerable and open with him. On this episode of CMO Conversations, Tricia and Ryan discuss how this simple shift to his calendar served as the catalyst for becoming an outspoken advocate for mental health, building deeper connections with his team, and growing as a leader. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Ryan on Twitter @triciagellman @ryanbonnici @HYPERGROWTH_Pod
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2 years ago
33 minutes 18 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Why Marketers Need To Obsess Over Their Differentiation And Their Story With ThoughtSpot’s Scott Holden (Part 1)
When it comes to marketing, the message is...everything. At least that's how Scott Holden (CMO of ThoughtSpot) thinks about it. In this episode of CMO Conversations, Tricia and Scott talk about how to get buy-in on your big ideas, what it takes to build a successful (and sustainable) thought leadership program, why great storytelling is the secret to product differentiation, and what it means to be a messaging freak. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Scott on Twitter @triciagellman @scottiholden @HYPERGROWTH_Pod
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2 years ago
31 minutes 51 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
ABM Is Not A Destination, It’s A Journey (With ThoughtSpot’s Scott Holden)
Marketers, buckle up. Because on this episode of CMO Conversations, we’re talking all about account-based marketing. No fluff, just honest-to-goodness strategy and best practices from a CMO whose marketing team is talking the talk, walking the walk, and getting serious results from ABM. Scott Holden is back, and this time around he’s spilling (some of) his secrets around the framework, formula, and flywheel behind ThoughtSpot’s impressive ABM program. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Scott on Twitter @triciagellman @scottiholden @HYPERGROWTH_Pod
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2 years ago
29 minutes 43 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
What Being A CEO Taught VMware’s CMO (Carol Carpenter)
If you want to meet a marketer who has done it all, look no further than Carol Carpenter. In her career, the Apple/Trend Micro/Google alum has been a product manager, a GM, a CEO, and not to mention, a marketing exec many times over. Now as VMware’s CMO, Carol is driving the 22-year-old software company’s digital transformation. In this episode, Carol talks to Tricia about how her non-linear career path helped her become a stronger marketer and recaps some of her biggest learnings from being a CEO. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Carol on Twitter @triciagellman @carol_carolling
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2 years ago
27 minutes 51 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
How Do You Run Fast At Scale? (Part 2 with VMware's Carol Carpenter)
Tricia and Carol Carpenter (CMO of VMware) pick up right where they left off – going even deeper on how being a CEO helped her become a better marketer. Plus Carol shares the three biggest leadership lessons she's learned throughout her career. Trust us, you're going to want to write these down. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Carol on Twitter @triciagellman @carol_carolling
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2 years ago
18 minutes 18 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
The 8 Mile Play & Why We Did The Webinar No One Was Doing In B2B Marketing
If there's one thing we can all agree on – it's this. There's so much noise in marketing today. No one wants to be sold to. So in this episode of the Marketing Swipe File, DG talks about how to break through the noise and earn trust by being real, authentic, and human. DG shares a real example of how he addressed buyer objections up-front in a live webinar. Uncomfortable? Scary? Sure. But it worked. Listen to the full episode to get more ideas for bringing authenticity back into your marketing.
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2 years ago
8 minutes 10 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
What I've Learned (So Far) From Being A 3-Time CMO & First-Time Mom
Tricia Gellman is the host of CMO Conversations, and on this episode, she’s also the guest. At the end of 2020, Tricia went on maternity leave to welcome her daughter into the world. But now she’s back at it and figuring out the balance of being a new mom, wife, and – you guessed it – CMO. She’s joined by Dena Upton, Drift’s Chief People Officer, for a candid discussion about her journey to motherhood, her transition back to work, and what she’s learned so far. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Vidya on Twitter @triciagellman @heydenaupton @DriftPodcasts -- Tricia's Article in Business Insider --> I'm a 3-time CMO and 5-time ironman triathlete, but having a child is the hardest thing I've ever done: https://www.businessinsider.com/drift-cmo-tricia-gellman-motherhood-infertility-ivf-loss-career-2020-10 The Rainbow Fish by Marcus Pfister https://bookshop.org/books/the-rainbow-fish/9781558585362 Big Words for Little People by Jamie Lee Curtis https://bookshop.org/books/big-words-for-little-people/9780061127595
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2 years ago
22 minutes 9 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
What It's Like to Get Hired in a Pandemic (with FullStory's Kirsten Newbold-Knipp)

We all got used to a new way of working in 2020. But Kirsten Newbold-Knipp? She started a brand new job during the pandemic. In this episode, Kirsten walks Tricia through her path to becoming CMO at FullStory – a journey with as many Zoom meetings as you can imagine, but there was also one very unexpected meeting along the way. Now that Kirsten has been at FullStory for a few months, she shares how she's building relationships with her marketing team and driving alignment with the head of sales.


Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Kirsten on Twitter @triciagellman @kirstenpetra @DriftPodcasts

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2 years ago
33 minutes 36 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Embracing a Beginner's Mind as a First-Time CMO (Coalition's Dylan Steele)

Dylan Steele is wrapping up his first month as CMO at Coalition. Prior to joining Coalition, Dylan was VP of Brand & Marketing Strategy at Splunk, and before that he was VP of Platform Product Marketing at Salesforce (where he and Tricia met). In this episode, Tricia and Dylan talk about why Dylan wanted to make the jump from VP to CMO, how the roles are different, his approach to his first 30 days on the job, what he's learned so far, and his advice for aspiring CMOs.


Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and JJ on Twitter @triciagellman @dylanrsteele @DriftPodcasts


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2 years ago
37 minutes 28 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
How to Balance Art and Science in Your Marketing Campaigns with Digital Marketing Maven Swan Sit

How do you know what your customers want? 


It’s not a guessing game, and Swan Sit knows this best. 


Building out digital marketing programs at companies like Estee Lauder, Revlon, and Nike, now known as the “Queen of Clubhouse” and as an independent board director, Swan is no stranger to feedback. 


In this exclusive interview that we’re airing before her keynote goes live at Drift’s virtual event, RevGrowth: Personalization at Scale, Tricia and Swan talk about how Swan balances both anecdotal and data-driven feedback and transforms it into powerful stories that resonate with her audience.


To hear Swan’s full keynote, register for Drift’s virtual event summit, RevGrowth: Personalization at Scale: https://www.drift.com/events/revgrowth-personalization/


Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Swan on Twitter: @triciagellman @swansit @DriftPodcasts


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2 years ago
25 minutes 28 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Becoming a Front-of-House Marketer with Talend's Lauren Vaccarello

Starting out as “the search girl” at Salesforce, Lauren Vaccarello always knew there was more to digital marketing than met the eye 12 years ago. And she was right. Now, Lauren is the CMO at Talend and sees her background in digital not just as a differentiator, but also as a strength. In this episode, Tricia and Lauren talk about what it’s been like growing their marketing careers in the digital age, and how, no matter where you start, there’s always a path to CMO.


Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends. You can connect with Tricia and Lauren on LinkedIn and follow @DriftPodcasts on Twitter.

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2 years ago
50 minutes 47 seconds

CMO Conversations with Tricia Gellman
Welcome to CMO Conversations – a podcast that takes you inside the mind of the modern CMO. Every other week, Drift CMO Tricia Gellman sits down with a different CMO and goes deep on their experience. What did their path to becoming a CMO look like? What advice do they have for up-and-coming marketers? What’s their superpower? And how do they navigate the challenges of a role that's constantly evolving? Because if there's one thing today's CMO can count on – it's change.