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Becoming The Product
Naya
70 episodes
4 days ago
My “Becoming the Product Podcast" is an APVA-nominated show about my journey into product management. I share my experiences and insights in a diary-style format, documenting the highs and lows of my journey. This podcast is for aspiring product managers and anyone interested in product management. Whether you're just starting or looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every Monday, offering valuable insights and firsthand experiences.
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My “Becoming the Product Podcast" is an APVA-nominated show about my journey into product management. I share my experiences and insights in a diary-style format, documenting the highs and lows of my journey. This podcast is for aspiring product managers and anyone interested in product management. Whether you're just starting or looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every Monday, offering valuable insights and firsthand experiences.
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Becoming The Product
You Are the Product: A New Kind of Résumé

Not every résumé fits on paper.

In this reflective episode, Naya explores how proof, process, and storytelling form the foundation of your modern résumé one that evolves with every lesson, pivot, and product you build.

Because in the end, you are the product.

Timestamps

  • 00:00 – 00:30 — Introduction: “You are the product.”

  • 00:30 – 01:00 — The story of being laid off and discovering the power of documentation.

  • 01:00 – 02:00 — Point 1: Your proof is your portfolio.

  • 02:00 – 02:30 — Point 2: Your process is your brand.

  • 02:30 – 03:30 — Point 3: Your story is your strategy.

  • 03:30 – 05:00 — Product thinking as iteration, not restarting.

  • 05:00 – End — Closing reflections + call to action to audit your proof.

Key Takeaways

  • Your résumé isn’t a document; it’s your proof in motion.

  • Proof builds trust faster than credentials.

  • Your process — how you communicate, plan, and execute — is your real brand.

  • Storytelling helps you connect your past to your next pivot.

  • You’re not behind; you’re just iterating.


Key Links:

  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
  • Subscribe to the newsletter
  • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS



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4 days ago
6 minutes 45 seconds

Becoming The Product
Is It Too Late to Pivot? (No.)

This week, Naya shares her story of pivoting from banking to tech, and the three truths that helped her rebuild with clarity. If you’ve ever wondered if it’s too late to start again, this one’s for you. Spoiler: It’s not. You’re not behind, you’re just iterating.


Timestamps:


  • 0:00 – 1:00 — Intro: What inspired this episode and the myth of “too late.”

  • 1:00 – 1:30 — My layoff story: From banking to blank slate.

  • 1:30 – 2:30 — Discovering tech and realizing I’d been doing “product thinking” all along.

  • 2:30 – 4:30 — Three truths about pivoting: redeeming your past, choosing curiosity, and building clarity through action.

  • 4:30 – 6:00 — Encouragement for anyone feeling behind.

  • 6:00 – End — Call to action and community invites.


Key Takeaways:


  • Your past experience is data, not detour.

  • Curiosity can be a valid reason to change direction.

  • Start small; clarity comes from doing.

  • You’re not late. You’re iterating.


Key Links:

  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
  • Subscribe to the newsletter
  • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 week ago
7 minutes 39 seconds

Becoming The Product
Branding as a PM: Less Logos, More Proof

Summary:
In this episode, Naya redefines what personal branding means for product managers and creatives. It’s not about logos or aesthetics — it’s about proof. She shares how documenting in real time, building in public, and aligning every creative outlet to a purpose has shaped her brand as a product builder.

Key Takeaways:

  • Branding = the proof you leave behind.

  • Progress > perfection.

  • Build a brand that functions, not just exists.

  • Every piece of work you share is a micro-proof.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 – 01:10 → The question: “If your brand disappeared tomorrow, what proof would remain?”

    • 01:10 – 02:45 → Why branding isn’t design, it’s data.

    • 02:45 – 03:20 → Early lessons from documenting in public.

    • 03:20 – 04:15 → Proof is the new branding.

    • 04:15 – 05:30 → Build in public: why people connect with progress.

    • 05:30 – 05:45 → Make your brand functional.

    • 05:45 – 06:30 → You don’t need a rebrand, you need a record.

    • 06:30 – 07:00 → Final thoughts + CTA.

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2 weeks ago
7 minutes 19 seconds

Becoming The Product
From Idea to Offering: How I Built a Service from My Skillset

In this episode, Naya breaks down how she transformed her product management experience into structured offerings like PMaaS and Side Hustle Stories. She shares how small acts of documentation became data, how structure created clarity, and why proof always comes before scale.

Key Takeaways:

  1. You don’t start by building a business — you start by building proof.

  2. Your patterns reveal your first offer.

  3. Structure creates clarity and scale.

  4. Test in public — feedback builds confidence.

  5. Your experience is your data.

    Timestamps

    • 00:00 – 02:30 | The surprising start — how documentation turned into a product journey

    • 02:30 – 05:30 | Story: From podcast reflections to building proof

    • 05:30 – 06:00 | Point 1: Start by naming what’s working

    • 06:00 – 06:30 | Point 2: Build structure around your skill

    • 06:30 – 07:00 | Point 3: Show proof before you scale

    • 07:00 – 07:45 | Wrap-up & final reminder: Proof becomes your product

    • 07:45 – 08:30 | CTA: Newsletter, Side Hustle Stories, Dive Africa

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3 weeks ago
8 minutes 20 seconds

Becoming The Product
What Founders Teach Me About Product Thinking

In this reflective episode, Naya shares what working with startup founders taught her about real-world product thinking. Beyond frameworks and templates, founders taught her the value of clarity, prioritization, storytelling, and scrappy validation. She connects these lessons to her own journey building PMaaS and preparing for Dive 2025 — Africa’s biggest tech and product conference.


Key Takeaways:

  1. Clarity is a discipline, not an end goal.
  2. Prioritize what matters now — not everything at once.
  3. Storytelling is a product strategy.
  4. Build with what you have, not what you wish you had.
  5. Validation always beats perfection.


Timestamps:

  • 00:00 – 01:10 | Founders move fast — intro to today’s topic
  • 01:10 – 03:50 | Observing early-stage founders: from chaos to clarity
  • 03:50 – 05:20 | Lesson 1: Clarity isn’t an outcome, it’s a discipline
  • 05:20 – 06:50 | Lesson 2: Prioritize what matters right now
  • 06:50 – 07:40 | Lesson 3: Storytelling as strategy
  • 07:40 – 08:00 | Lesson 4: Build with what you have
  • 08:00 – 09:00 | Lessons I’ve applied to PMaaS
  • 09:00 – 09:30 | Dive 2025 mention & reflections on community
  • 09:30 – 10:00 | Wrap-up & CTAs



Key Links:

  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
  • Subscribe to the newsletter
  • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS
  • The Dive 2025


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1 month ago
10 minutes 30 seconds

Becoming The Product
Why I’m Excited for Product Dive 2025

In this episode, I talk about Product Dive 2025, Africa’s biggest tech and product conference, my role as an ambassador, and what the Becoming the Product community can gain from it. I share why this event is special to me, what to expect, and how to plug in ahead of December.

Timestamps:

  • 00:00 – Intro: Something big is happening in December

  • 01:30 – What Product Dive 2025 is all about

  • 04:00 – My role as an ambassador

  • 07:00 – Why this matters to me personally

  • 10:00 – What you can get out of it

  • 13:00 – CTAs + Wrap up

    Key Takeaways:

    • Product Dive is the #1 tech/product event on the continent.

    • Ambassador roles can be more than promotion — they can be storytelling bridges.

    • This is a prime opportunity to learn, connect, and grow within Africa’s product ecosystem.

      Key Links:

      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
      • Subscribe to the newsletter
      • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS
      • productdive.com/the-dive-2025-conference


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1 month ago
8 minutes 40 seconds

Becoming The Product
My Most Underrated Career Move: Working in Incubation

In this reflective episode, Naya shares why stepping into incubation was one of her smartest career moves — even if it didn’t look like it at first. She unpacks how working with founders sharpened her product thinking, inspired PMaaS, and gave her strategic positioning that a traditional PM role couldn’t.

Key Takeaways:

  • Unconventional pivots can sharpen unique skills and perspectives.

  • Incubation offers deep exposure to multiple products and founders.

  • Acting as a “fractional PM” builds operational clarity and mentorship muscles.

  • Quiet moves often become powerful leverage points later on.

    Episode 14: My Most Underrated Career Move — Working in Incubation

    • 00:00 – 01:30 | Intro: Bold moves that don’t look bold at first

    • 01:30 – 02:00 | Story: Becoming an incubation manager

    • 02:00 – 03:00 | Point 1: Ecosystem exposure

    • 03:00 – 04:00 | Point 2: Operational clarity & mentorship

    • 04:00 – 05:00 | Point 3: Strategic positioning for PMaaS

    • 05:00 – 06:00 | Wrap-up & reflections

      Key Links:

      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
      • Subscribe to the newsletter
      • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
6 minutes 13 seconds

Becoming The Product
Quiet Building as strategy

In this reflective solo episode, Naya shares why not every season of building needs to be loud. She breaks down her Q3 “quiet season,” the mindset shifts that came with it, and practical ways to document and build intentionally when visibility is low.

Key Takeaways:

  • Quiet seasons are powerful for strategy and foundation work

  • Value doesn’t disappear just because it’s not visible

  • Document your journey quietly now — share later when the time is right

  • Silence can be strategy, not stagnation


    Episode 13: The Quiet Build — Why Not Every Season is Loud

    • 00:00 – 01:30 | Intro: Why quiet seasons matter

    • 01:30 – 02:00 | Story: My unplanned Q3 pause

    • 02:00 – 03:00 | Point 1: Quiet seasons build foundations

    • 03:00 – 04:00 | Point 2: Visibility ≠ value

    • 05:00 – 06:00 | Point 3: Document quietly, share later

    • 6:00 – 6:05 | Wrap up & reminders

      Key Links:

      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
      • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
      • Subscribe to the newsletter
      • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS



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1 month ago
6 minutes 2 seconds

Becoming The Product
How I Use Notion to Run 3 Hustles

In this practical solo episode, Naya shares her Notion system for managing a full portfolio career without a team. From holistic goal planning to project management across multiple hustles, and even using Notion as a website, this is the behind-the-scenes look at her real operating system.

Episode 12: How I Use Notion to Run 3 Hustles

  • 00:00 – 00:38 | Introduction: How I manage multiple hustles solo

  • 00:38 – 01:21 | Life before Notion: scattered docs, sticky notes, chaos

  • 01:21 – 03:38 | Building my 2025 dashboard — holistic planning

  • 03:38 – 05:40 | Master Task Database across podcast, PMaaS, content

  • 05:40 – 07:14 | Turning Notion into backend + frontend

  • 07:14 – 08:09 | Why Notion is my COO

    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
    • Subscribe to the newsletter
    • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS



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1 month ago
8 minutes 17 seconds

Becoming The Product
Protecting Peace While Building Ambition

In this reflective solo episode, Naya opens up about the quieter side of ambition, the overwhelm that can come from juggling multiple creative and professional pursuits. She shares three lessons she’s applying this season to protect her peace while continuing to build intentionally: recognizing overload early, creating clear boundaries, and protecting rest and joy.


Episode 11: Protecting Peace While Building Ambition

  • 00:00 – 01:03 | Introduction: Ambition can chip away at your peace if unchecked

  • 01:03 – 02:11 | Q3 reality check — overwhelm, disconnect, and hitting pause

  • 02:11 – 05:18 | Lesson 1: Recognizing overload early and identifying signals

  • 05:18 – 07:23 | Lesson 2: Creating containers and boundaries to focus energy

  • 07:23 – 09:55 | Lesson 3: Protecting joy and rest intentionally

  • 09:55 – 11:39 | Reframing expectations & designing sustainable systems

  • 11:39 – 12:31 | Final reminder: Your peace is not optional


    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
    • Subscribe to the newsletter
    • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
12 minutes 52 seconds

Becoming The Product
From Downloads to Revenue: What I’ve Learned So Far

In this honest solo episode, Naya normalizes the messy middle of building products. Proof isn’t about instant revenue. It starts with listeners, subscribers, first sales, and community. She shares her own lessons from podcasting, launching mini courses, and validating PMaaS.


Episode 10:From Downloads to Revenue: What I’ve Learned So Far

  • 00:00 – 00:42 | Why this isn’t a “10k in 10 days” story

  • 00:42 – 01:29 | Proof starts with people showing up

  • 01:29 – 02:23 | Downloads ≠ dollars: why podcasting builds community first

  • 02:23 – 03:21 | Small sales are still validation

  • 03:21 – 04:26 | Mindset shift: monetization is a long game

  • 04:26 – 05:21 | Running experiments like PMaaS alongside courses

  • 05:21 – 06:00 | Final reminder: proof doesn’t start with profits

    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
    • Subscribe to the newsletter
    • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
6 minutes 13 seconds

Becoming The Product
What Building in Public Actually Looks Like

This week, Naya reflects on the real meaning of building in public, not just milestones, but also pauses, pivots, and messy progress. She shares lessons from falling behind, why documentation matters more than perfection, and how experiments like PMaaS add credibility even before they succeed.


Shownotes

Episode 9: What Building in Public Actually Looks Like

  • 00:00 – 01:00 | Why “building in public” isn’t just shiny LinkedIn posts.

  • 01:00 – 02:30 | Falling behind in Q3 — and realizing silence is part of the story.

  • 02:30 – 03:20 | Lesson 1: Transparency attracts trust.

  • 03:20 – 04:20 | Lesson 2: Documentation beats perfection.

  • 04:20 – 05:20 | Lesson 3: Your process is your proof.

  • 05:20 – 06:10 | Experimenting with PMaaS (Product Management as a Service).

  • 06:10 – 07:20 | Encouragement: share one imperfect thing this week.

    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
    • Subscribe to the newsletter
    • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
7 minutes 31 seconds

Becoming The Product
Designing My PMaaS: From Idea to Offering

What if you could rent a PM’s brain? In this episode, I share the idea of PMaaS—Product Management as a Service—and why I’m building it in public.


Timestamps:

  • [00:00:38] Why PMaaS? Lessons from incubation and acceleration

  • [00:01:20] The gap: feature-heavy, user-light startups

  • [00:02:42] What PMaaS could look like (validation sprints, MVP roadmaps, prioritization)

  • [00:03:32] Building toward a January 2026 launch

  • [00:03:58] Validation first, iteration over ego, community first

  • [00:04:22] Recap: PMaaS as the bridge between messy ideas and working products

Key Takeaways:

  • Founders need product thinking before they need a full-time PM.

  • PMaaS could fill the gap with lightweight, flexible support.

  • Building in public means inviting community into the process.

    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
    • Subscribe to the newsletter
    • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
5 minutes 22 seconds

Becoming The Product
Behind the Incubator: Lessons from Founders I Support

From validation to iteration, incubation reveals the truth about product work. In this episode, I share lessons from working with startups that every aspiring PM or side-project builder needs to hear.

Timestamps:

  • [00:00:55] Landing an incubation role through community

  • [00:02:28] Why vision without validation is quicksand

  • [00:04:09] Iteration beats ideation every time

  • [00:05:19] Introducing PMaaS: Product Management as a Service

  • [00:06:05] Community as your first feature

  • [00:07:18] Announcement: Speaking at Product Conference 2025

  • [00:08:04] Wrap-up and CTAs

Key Links:

  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle
  • Subscribe to the newsletter
  • DM me on LinkedIn about PMaaS


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1 month ago
8 minutes 46 seconds

Becoming The Product
Passive Income is Not Passive — Especially for Builders

Everyone loves the idea of passive income, but it’s rarely passive when you’re still building. In this solo episode, I share what it really looks like to build on the side while working full-time. Let’s talk about PMaaS, proof, and planting in public


imestamps & Highlights:

  • [00:00:00] The myth of passive income while building

  • [00:01:00] Balancing a full-time job and building PMaaS

  • [00:02:00] Why digital downloads and service offers still need heavy lifting

  • [00:03:13] Teaching is marketing when you have no team

  • [00:04:27] Proof before profit—and why it's uncomfortable

  • [00:06:35] Reflection: share one small proof point this week

  • [00:07:40] Final reminder: you’re planting, not failing


    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle

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3 months ago
8 minutes 1 second

Becoming The Product
Teaching What You've Practiced: From PM to Course Creator

Ever thought, “Who am I to teach this?” In this solo episode, Naya shares how surviving chaos led to teaching what she practiced, without a platform, permission, or perfect plan.

Timestamps & Highlights:

  • [00:00:00] You don’t need to be an expert to be a guide

  • [00:00:59] From survival mode to systems

  • [00:02:15] When DMs become demand

  • [00:03:00] Teaching = documenting what worked

  • [00:04:00] Your lived experience is already a framework

  • [00:05:00] Start messy, start small, start free

  • [00:06:29] If you’ve helped one person, it counts

    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle

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3 months ago
7 minutes 39 seconds

Becoming The Product
Digital Products Are Products Too

Think your checklist or template isn’t a real product?


Think again. In this short solo episode, Naya unpacks why digital products count, and how to turn them into proof.


Timestamps & Highlights:

  • [00:00:00] – Digital products are products.

  • [00:00:51] – The SMART PM Roadmap story

  • [00:01:31] – Full product lifecycle without a single line of code

  • [00:02:01] – Templates solve real problems too

  • [00:03:00] – From gap to launch: user research to iteration

  • [00:04:10] – Turn your content into a case study

  • [00:05:18] – Side Hustle Stories & Smart PM Roadmap callout

  • [00:06:12] – You’re not just learning product—you’re becoming it


    Key Links:

    • ⁠⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠⁠

    • ⁠⁠Proof & Practice Bundle

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3 months ago
6 minutes 26 seconds

Becoming The Product
Behind the Build: GigSecure + TEF

This one’s personal. Naya shares how a career transition exposed the gap in protections for gig workers, and how she built GigSecure to fix it.

ength: ~11 mins

Timestamps & Highlights:

  • [00:00:00] – Why GigSecure didn’t start as a hackathon idea

  • [00:00:51] – From traditional job benefits to gig work vulnerability

  • [00:01:49] – Asking hard questions about health, savings, and support

  • [00:02:37] – Getting validation through the TEF grant

  • [00:03:26] – Building the MVP with Flutterflow, Supabase, Buildship, and AI

  • [00:05:16] – No-code isn’t a shortcut—it’s a strategy

  • [00:06:00] – You don’t need to wait for validation, but it’s powerful when it comes

  • [00:07:16] – What protections do gig workers really need?

  • [00:09:20] – Encouragement for listeners to start small and build proof

  • [00:10:14] – Tools, roadmaps, and next steps for building in public


    Key Links:

    • ⁠Free Smart PM Career Roadmap⁠

    • ⁠Build Without Permission – Mini Course⁠

    • ⁠Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course⁠

    • ⁠Proof & Practice Bundle

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4 months ago
11 minutes 4 seconds

Becoming The Product
What Even Is a Portfolio Career?

Are you tired of one-size-fits-all careers? In this episode, Naya shares how she moved beyond the traditional product path and built a portfolio career that reflects her real life and values.

Timestamps & Highlights:

  • [00:00:00] – Intro: nervous, excited, and ready to unpack it all

  • [00:01:10] – Feeling boxed in by a single job title

  • [00:02:01] – What a portfolio career actually is

  • [00:03:45] – How life changes (marriage, motherhood) led to redefining work

  • [00:04:41] – Building proof through courses, roles, and self-driven work

  • [00:06:00] – Starting small with what you already know

  • [00:07:31] – Proof, clarity, and courage over audience size

  • [00:08:25] – Final thoughts + free resources


    Key Links:

    • Free Smart PM Career Roadmap

    • Build Without Permission – Mini Course

    • Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course

    • Proof & Practice Bundle

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4 months ago
8 minutes 47 seconds

Becoming The Product
Why I Decided to Become My Own Product

In this season opener, I’m reflecting on how Becoming the Product has evolved, from a way to break into product management to a framework for building a career (and life) on your own terms.

I share how launching a podcast, building mini-courses, pivoting careers, and trusting the process helped me stop waiting for permission and start designing a portfolio career. If you've ever felt like you're more than just a job title, this episode is for you.


Timestamps
[00:00:00] – Welcome to Season 3 & life/career update
[00:01:02] – How and why the podcast started
[00:02:17] – Learning to build trust in myself without a title
[00:03:00] – Pivoting into incubation, courses, and GigSecure
[00:03:52] – From jobs to portfolio careers: defining a product-led life
[00:04:18] – What “Becoming the Product” actually means
[00:04:48] – The unglamorous (but real) part of growth
[00:05:13] – Proof through storytelling, no-code, and consistency
[00:05:44] – Who this season is for (creators, PMs, multihyphenates)
[00:06:11] – How to get started: free roadmap & courses
[00:07:02] – Closing and gratitude


Resources Mentioned

  • Free Smart PM Career Roadmap

  • Build Without Permission – Mini Course

  • Side Hustle Stories – Mini Course

  • Proof & Practice Bundle


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Becoming The Product
My “Becoming the Product Podcast" is an APVA-nominated show about my journey into product management. I share my experiences and insights in a diary-style format, documenting the highs and lows of my journey. This podcast is for aspiring product managers and anyone interested in product management. Whether you're just starting or looking for inspiration, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every Monday, offering valuable insights and firsthand experiences.