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AI Dialogues
MacPherson Institute
38 episodes
3 days ago
”AI Dialogues” delves into the ethical and practical questions of generative AI for McMaster University and post-secondary education, bridging the gap between knowledgeable educators, students, and practitioners and those less familiar with AI technology. Hosted by Stephanie Verkoeyen, each episode features conversations with educators, students, and academic staff, providing insights into how AI can transform learning and shape the future of higher education.
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”AI Dialogues” delves into the ethical and practical questions of generative AI for McMaster University and post-secondary education, bridging the gap between knowledgeable educators, students, and practitioners and those less familiar with AI technology. Hosted by Stephanie Verkoeyen, each episode features conversations with educators, students, and academic staff, providing insights into how AI can transform learning and shape the future of higher education.
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AI Dialogues
Learning, Differently

 Kelly Webb-Davies, Lead Business Technologist at the University of Oxford’s AI Competency Centre, draws on her experiences as a neurodivergent educator in linguistics to offers a personal and practical perspective on accessibility, linguistic justice, and generative AI in higher education.

We talk about digital translanguaging, separating idea development from academic phrasing, and rethinking classroom time to foreground process as much as product.

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Articles referenced in the episode:

  • AI generates covertly racist decisions about people based on their dialect
  • Event Podcasting for assessment and engagement
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1 month ago
27 minutes 58 seconds

AI Dialogues
S3 E4: Protecting Difference in a World of AI

Jutta Treveranus, Director of Inclusive Design and Professor in the Faculty of Design at OCAD University, talks about the Framework for Accessible and Equitable AI in Education, which looks at AI from the perspective  of  people with disabilities who stand to experience the extreme benefits and risks of AI.

If you're interested in learning about more about AI and accessibility, check out:

  • IDRC’s Inclusive Artificial Intelligence Initiatives
  • This collection of articles from leading educators and researchers
  • Accessibility requirements for ICT products and services


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2 months ago
25 minutes 25 seconds

AI Dialogues
S3 E4: Reimagining Assessment - Curtin University’s Assessment 2030 Initiative

After a longer than planned hiatus, I’m excited to kick things off again with a conversation with Professor Mollie Dollinger who’s the Director of Assessment 2030 at Curtin University. 

Earlier this year Curtin University released an Assessment 2030 Strategic Planning Document, outlining their approach to reimagining assessment for the future of higher education.

Mollie and I talk about how she and her team are supporting the rollout of this framework and what she’s learned along the way. 

At the end of the episode, I share some thoughts on pieces I think need to be in place to realize the benefits of these types of frameworks.

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3 months ago
27 minutes 10 seconds

AI Dialogues
S3 E3: The role of generative AI in student writing - An instructor panel discussion

This special episode of AI Dialogues features a recently recorded Instructor Panel at McMaster University. The panel was moderated by Ben Lee Taylor, the Academic Skills Program Coordinator with the Student Success Centre, and brings together the following panelists who engages in writing instruction and support for students:

  • Dr. Jonathan Cannon, Assistant Professor, Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour.
  • Dr. Ayesha Khan, Associate Professor, Psychology, Neuroscience & Behavior.
  • Dr. Mayu Nishimura. Assistant Professor, Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour.
  • Siddharth Raman, PhD candidate, Department of Philosophy; Writing Advisor, Student Success Centre.


Towards the end of the recording, I pose a question to the panel that challenges the commonly held assumption that using GenAI involves outsourcing your thinking to talk about whether these tools could potentially support the writing and thinking process.

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A transcript for this episode is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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6 months ago
53 minutes 32 seconds

AI Dialogues
S3 E2: Voices from HESA's AI-CADEMY 2025

In March 2025, the Higher Education Strategy Associates hosted the AI-Cademy conference, a Canadian AI summit for post-secondary education.

While I was at the conference, I interviewed 8 attendees to capture their perspectives on conference topics that resonated, things they'd be bringing back to their institutions, and gaps in the conversation.

Listen to insights from :

  • Erin Aspenlieder, Associate Vice-Provost, Academic Quality & Teaching Innovation at Sheridan College
  • Priya  Mouli, Director  of  IT  Security and Information  Security  Officer at Sheridan  College 
  • Kate Bowers, Lead Learning Designer at Action Insight
  • Cari Din, Associate Dean Academic in the Faculty of Kinesiology at the University of Calgary
  • Renato Bezerra, Educational Developer at the University of Manitoba
  • Jonathan Stone, Learning  Specialist at Coast  Mountain  College
  • Alan Amyotte, Director  of Internal Assurance at the University of British Columbia
  • Sandrine Desforges, Research Associate with the Higher Education Strategy Associates


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A transcript for this episode is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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7 months ago
25 minutes 10 seconds

AI Dialogues
S3 E1: Thinking in Possibilities, Not Predictions - Exploring AI Futures Through Strategic Foresight

This podcast episode is focused on a project coming out of one of the AI expert panels at McMaster around AI futures.

 Shane  Saunderson, who  is an  assistant  professor in Information  Systems  in  the DeGroote  School  of Business and  a  member of the AI Research Expert  panel, talks about how the team plans to undertake this project using something called strategic foresight.

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8 months ago
22 minutes 23 seconds

AI Dialogues
Season 3 Announcement

Learn about the change that's in store for season 3!

If you have guests or topics you'd like to hear on the show, ⁠reach out⁠ with your suggestions!

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9 months ago
1 minute 19 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E13: From inputs to outputs - The intersection of AI and copyright law

Sarah O’Byrne, Senior Legal Counsel at McMaster University, discusses the evolving legal landscape of Generative AI. We explore key issues like copyright, intellectual property, and data privacy, focusing on two pivotal Canadian cases about data scraping and AI authorship.

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9 months ago
17 minutes 31 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E12: The state of AI talent in Canada - What’s next for education and industry?

In this episode, I'm joined by Adam Renkosinski, Director of AI Talent Initiatives and Analytics at the Vector Institute. Adam and I dig into some of the key findings of the report, Artificial Intelligence Talent in Canada: Emerging AI Skills and Future Workforce⁠, talking about the evolving landscape of AI talent in Canada, and what it means for the future of the workforce and post-secondary education.

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10 months ago
26 minutes 52 seconds

AI Dialogues
Bonus episode: Deep Learning Dialogues Cross-over

As a follow-up to last week's episode, you can catch my interview with Deep Learning Dialogue hosts, Katrina Gouett and Whitney McKinley, as I answer their questions about what's been happening around Generative AI at McMaster.

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10 months ago
32 minutes 9 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E11: Generative AI across the education spectrum - Insights from K-12

Katrina Gouett and Whitney McKinley, student achievement consultants for learning innovation with the Waterloo Catholic District School Board and hosts of Deep Learning Dialogues, share their insights into how generative AI is playing out in the K-12 sector and what this means for post-secondary education. 

Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

A transcript for this episode is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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11 months ago
23 minutes 2 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E10: Instructor panel on the use of AI for evaluation

This special episode of AI Dialogues features a recently recorded Instructor Panel at McMaster University. The panel was moderated by Sam Scott (from S2 E7), and brings together four educators with different experiences and perspectives on using AI and generative AI for evaluation purposes. The panelists discuss advantages and disadvantages of automation in grading, how generative AI differs from previous applications of automated grading, and what this means for the future of assessment. 

The panelists are:

  • Catherine Anderson, Associate Professor, Linguistics and Languages, and Director of the Gender and Social Justice program
  • Ayesha Khan, Associate Professor, Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour
  • Linda Davis, Level 1 Lab Coordinator in the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology
  • Bruce Wainman, Professor, Pathology & Molecular Medicine


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11 months ago
41 minutes 29 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E9: AI through an EDI lens - The need for human-centred design

In this episode, Soroush Sabbaghan, an Associate Professor (Teaching) and the Director, Equity, Diversity & Inclusion at the University of Calgary’s Werklund School of Education, talks about engaging with generative AI through an EDI lens, highlighting the importance of human-centered design to mitigate bias, empower educators, and maintain transparency.

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12 months ago
21 minutes 2 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E8: Digging into the development of York's Automated University Response Assistant (AURA)

Patrick Thibaudeau, York University's Director, IT Innovation and Academic Technologies at York University, talks about the artificial intelligence platform, AURA, that his team launched at the end of August. We discuss why York decided to build its own AI platform in house, what went into development, and how the platform is being used across the university.   Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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1 year ago
25 minutes 41 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E7: Revisiting McMaster's Generative AI Teaching & Learning Guidelines with Sam Scott

Sam  Scott, a teaching Stream Associate Professor in the  Department of Computing and Software at McMaster and part of the AI Expert Panel in Teaching and Learning that worked on revising the University's Generative  AI Teaching  and  Learning  Guidelines, shares his experience working with the expert panel and talks through some of the changes made to the guidelines.  

Sam references the following articles during the interview:

  • What happened to the artificial intelligence revolution
  • AI adopters aren't slashing jobs so far
  • AI worse than humans in every way at summarizing information
  • Kids who use ChatGPT as a study assistant do worse on tests
  • The Times sues OpenAI over use of copyrighted work
  •  AI chatbot blamed for psychosocial training gaffe⁠
  • AI brings soaring emissions for Google and Microsoft

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A transcript for this episode is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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1 year ago
23 minutes 12 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E6: How Students React to Instructors Disclosing AI Use

In this episode I check in with some students and see how they would react if they saw a disclosure of GenAI use statement on their course materials. I interviewed 4 different students, 2 grad, 2 undergrad, from Cognitive Psychology, Life Science, Political Science, and Philosophy. Their perspectives offer interesting nuances on differences in use, course context, and types of course material. Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

A transcript for this episode is available ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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1 year ago
15 minutes 4 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E5: Evolving guidance - How UofT is navigating GenAI use

I’m joined by Susan McCahan, who’s the Vice-Provost of Academic Programs and Innovations in Undergraduate Education at the University of Toronto.  

Susan discusses her role as the Provost’s Advisor on Artificial Intelligence and teaching and learning co-chair of U of T's AI Task Force Steering Committee, and we talk about updates to their FAQs, including the decision to allow students to use GenAI as a learning aid.

 

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1 year ago
24 minutes 8 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E4: Researching GenAI in Higher Ed - A conversation with HEQCO

I’m joined by two people from the Higher Education Quality Council of Ontario (HEQCO), Alexandra McFarlane, who’s one of the Directors, and Ryan Tishchoff who works as a Researcher. 

They’re here to talk about some of the research their group has been spearheading around Generative AI and how they hope to support further research in this area by creating a Consortium on Generative AI that’s made up of different stakeholders from post-secondary institutions in Ontario.  You can find out more about HEQCO's request for proposals here - applications are due September 20.

Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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1 year ago
15 minutes 59 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E3: Supervising and graduate education in the age of GenAI

Jeff Casello, the Associate Vice President of Graduate and Postdoctoral Affairs at the University of Waterloo, and chair of the Generative AI working group for the Ontario Council of Graduate Studies, talks about the impact of generative AI on graduate education, the role of supervisors and students in guiding GenAI usage, and the need for open conversations when integrating AI into research processes.

Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

A transcript for this episode is available ⁠here⁠.

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1 year ago
20 minutes 20 seconds

AI Dialogues
S2 E2: The need for transparency and ongoing dialogue

This is the second episode that delves into the use and disclosure of GenAI in teaching.

Marc Watkins, an Assistant Director of Academic Innovation and Lecturer in Writing and Rhetoric at the University of Mississippi, talks about how to incentivize and recognize the professional development instructors need around Generative AI, how transparency in AI usage can help build trust, and the importance of ongoing dialogue with our students to understand the role of Generative AI in their learning environment. 

Want to learn more? Marc regularly writes about AI and education on his Substack Rhetorica. I recommend checking out his Beyond ChatGPT series!

Have feedback or questions or want to continue the conversation? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reach out!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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1 year ago
25 minutes 13 seconds

AI Dialogues
”AI Dialogues” delves into the ethical and practical questions of generative AI for McMaster University and post-secondary education, bridging the gap between knowledgeable educators, students, and practitioners and those less familiar with AI technology. Hosted by Stephanie Verkoeyen, each episode features conversations with educators, students, and academic staff, providing insights into how AI can transform learning and shape the future of higher education.