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The Marketing Attractions Podcast
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37 episodes
2 weeks ago
When your attraction has already maxed out on attendance, where does new revenue come from? In this episode, we sit down with John Abrahamson – formerly of the Monterey Bay Aquarium and the upcoming Nat Geo Museum – to talk about creative ways cultural attractions can grow earned revenue while staying true to their mission. John shares how he helped Monterey Bay Aquarium expand beyond its walls through immersive VR experiences, sustainable food and beverage programs (including saying goodbye ...
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When your attraction has already maxed out on attendance, where does new revenue come from? In this episode, we sit down with John Abrahamson – formerly of the Monterey Bay Aquarium and the upcoming Nat Geo Museum – to talk about creative ways cultural attractions can grow earned revenue while staying true to their mission. John shares how he helped Monterey Bay Aquarium expand beyond its walls through immersive VR experiences, sustainable food and beverage programs (including saying goodbye ...
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The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Non-Traditional Revenue Streams for Cultural Attractions
When your attraction has already maxed out on attendance, where does new revenue come from? In this episode, we sit down with John Abramson – formerly of the Monterey Bay Aquarium and the upcoming Nat Geo Museum – to talk about creative ways cultural attractions can grow earned revenue while staying true to their mission. John shares how he helped Monterey Bay Aquarium expand beyond its walls through immersive VR experiences, sustainable food and beverage programs (including saying goodbye to...
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1 month ago
37 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Exploring Dynamic Pricing for Your Institution
Dynamic pricing is gaining momentum across gardens, zoos, aquariums, and museums. But what does it mean for marketing teams, and how does it affect revenue, accessibility, and guest experience? We talk about: The difference between variable pricing and true dynamic pricingWhy many attractions market it as “plan ahead pricing”How dynamic pricing smooths attendance at blockbuster events like holiday lightsRevenue lifts institutions are seeing — often 5–20%How to communicate pricing changes with...
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1 month ago
32 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
The Ideal Google Ad Grant Campaign Structure for Cultural Attractions
The Google Ad Grant offers up to $10,000 a month in free search ads for qualifying nonprofits, including gardens, zoos, aquariums, and museums. But without the right setup, much of that potential goes unused. In this episode, we outline the ideal campaign structure to make the grant work harder for your institution. We talk about: Separate branded and non-branded search terms into distinct campaigns for clarity and control.Build four core campaigns: Brand, Location + Category, Weddings ...
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2 months ago
42 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Is Your Attraction Ready for an App?
We explore whether it’s time for your garden, zoo, aquarium, or museum to go beyond the printed map—and into the world of mobile apps. We’re joined by Jacob Thompson, CX Director at Attractions.io, who works across both nonprofit attractions and for-profit parks. Together, we talk about what makes an institution ready for an app, what features actually drive revenue (hint: it’s not just a prettier map), and how apps can enhance both the guest experience and your marketing efforts. Topics incl...
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3 months ago
32 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
How Nonprofit Attractions are Utilizing Augmented Reality
Augmented reality isn’t just for tech companies - it’s helping zoos, aquariums, museums, and gardens create more engaging, measurable guest experiences. In this episode, we’re joined by Anna Graham, Manager of Marketing Services at Ricoh USA, who shares how AR is being used across the cultural attraction space to enhance exhibits, tell mission-driven stories, and even sell more tickets. We cover: The difference between AR and VR—and why AR is often the better fitHow AR can boost foot traffic ...
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3 months ago
25 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Shawna Brumfield-Washington, Director of Marketing and Communications at Riverbanks Zoo & Garden
Shawna is a 'newbie' to cultural attraction space. But, she's a seasoned pro in building a collaborative space within diverse organizations. Join us as Shawna shares how she and her team created a system and culture for employees across all departments to create and amplify social media content for Riverbanks Zoo and Garden. Shawna walks us through: Creating a zoo-wide meeting focused on social mediaHow she leveraged Hootsuite’s Amplify tool to empower staff to post on their...
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4 months ago
37 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Influencers as Your Tourist Marketing Plan
Jenny makes the argument that most nonprofit attractions don't need a separate, disjointed tourist marketing plan. They need more influencer marketing. We talk about... How TikTok and Instagram (not Google) are the go-to platforms for travel and trip planning Why influencer content can make your attraction more discoverable on social media Ways to increase visitation with locals and tourists alike with influencer marketing Join us as we discuss a 'quick win' way to attrac...
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4 months ago
38 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
10 Tips for Creating UGC-Style Content
User-generated content (UGC) is the word-of-mouth marketing of the digital age—and it’s changing how cultural attractions reach new visitors. In this episode, we're joined by David Leach, who has deep experience helping attractions get the most out of their video content. We talk about how zoos, aquariums, museums, and gardens can build momentum with creators, visitors, and influencers who are already sharing their experience online. We cover: How UGC helps you reach new audiences...
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5 months ago
33 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Eric Donovan, Chief Operating Officer at Elmwood Park Zoo
Eric and the Elmwood Park Zoo are working to make their zoo more accessible, inclusive, and inviting to everyone. We talk to Eric about how the team turned bold questions into real change—like letting dogs visit the zoo and becoming the first Certified Autism Center zoo in the world. Eric shares: The behind-the-scenes process of creating a dog-friendly program that staff and animals could all get behindWhy “Yappy Hours” became a marketing superpowerHow accessibility upgrades went from “nice-t...
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6 months ago
36 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Wendy Babineaux, Director of Event Operations at Houston Zoo
Dynamic ticket pricing isn’t just for airlines. In this episode, we’re joined by Wendy Babineaux from the Houston Zoo to dive into how her team rolled out dynamic pricing—starting cautiously with Zoo Lights in 2019 and gradually expanding across general admission. She breaks down how pricing now fluctuates daily, even within a single day, and how that’s impacted attendance patterns, guest experience, and revenue goals. We also talk about: Why starting small (like a seasonal event) is the way ...
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6 months ago
29 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
When, Why, and How to Pay Influencers
Most nonprofit attractions are doing some sort of ticket trade in exchange for influencers posting content. Jenny lays out a few reasons to financially compensate influencers and shares tips on how to do it. We talk about: Looking at influencer marketing as a part of your paid advertising strategy How a small financial consideration changes the working relationship between a brand and an influencer The 6 things to include in your influencer's creative brief A ...
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7 months ago
49 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Building and Strengthening Your Attraction’s Brand with Nancie McDonnell Ruder
Nancie from Noetic Consultants shares her 4 key steps of rebranding nonprofit attractions. Plus, Nancie shares real-world insights, including a case study on a recent zoo rebranding project, and offers practical advice for navigating the RFP process to find the right branding partner. We talk about: Defining the Brand’s North Star – Understanding mission, vision, and purpose.Brand Distinction through Research – Utilizing internal stakeholder interviews, guest surveys, and competit...
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8 months ago
35 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Corey Romberg, Director of Guest Engagement at The Florida Aquarium
Corey Romberg joins us to share his ideas on enhancing guest engagement through multi-sensory experiences, storytelling, and audience-focused programming. We talk about: Multi-Sensory Engagement: Using decor, food, hands-on activities, and entertainment to create immersive experiences.Character Development: How mascots and puppets help build empathy and connect young audiences to conservation.Guest Feedback & Adaptive Management: Leveraging surveys to drive organizational improvements and...
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8 months ago
29 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Diana Vega, Chief of Operations at Zoo Miami
Diana Vega from Zoo Miami discusses how collaboration and creativity can elevate guest experiences at nonprofit attractions. It’s our view that marketing gets people through the door and guest experience turns them into members.We talk about:Empowering Staff: Involving frontline employees in solutions enhances both operations and the guest experience.Revamping Internal Meeting Structure: Ways Diana changed weekly internal meetings to increase employee buy-in.Accessibility Upgrades: Partnering...
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9 months ago
27 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
TikTok May Go Away; Influencer Marketing Won't
Jenny breaks down what nonprofit, cultural attractions would lose if the TikTok ban comes to fruition. We purposefully recorded this episode prior to the January 19, 2025 'deadline' for TikTok. This allows to reflect on why TikTok is a powerful advertising platform for zoos, aquariums, gardens, and museums. We talk about... Why (most) nonprofit attractions should invest paid advertising dollars into influencer marketing What exactly makes TikTok the best platform for influencer...
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9 months ago
32 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Briana Hefley-Shepard, Director of Marketing & Communications at the Tulsa Garden Center
Briana and her team won APGA's 2024 Marketing Excellence Award. She shares insights from this award-winning campaign: When the Wind Came Sweeping Down the Plain. Plus, we also discuss: Marketing a public garden with a minimal advertising budget Creating more visual impact on Instagram Running sponsorships on NPR radio Join us as we talk about marketing the Tulsa Garden Center. This podcast is produced by attend media. attend helps nonprofit attractions drive visi...
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10 months ago
40 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: Erin Ward, VP of Marketing at Palm Beach Zoo
Erin Ward from the Palm Beach Zoo joins us to talk marketing. We dive into...Palm Beach Zoo's most recent, conservation-focused marketing campaign - "Zoo More Good" How to use Birdeye to generate more positive Google reviews A text and email 'drip' strategy to upsell animal experiences, food and beverage, and increase repeat visitation How customer data is impacting their advertising strategy This is a great listen for any marketing director at a zoo, aquarium, garden...
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11 months ago
25 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Spotlight: David Rosenberg, Executive Vice President, Growth and Experience at SSA Ventures
Attraction veteran, David Rosenberg, shares his thoughts on seamless visitor experiences, networking, and, Gen Z. Here's what we talk about: Using technology to create a more 'seamless' visitor experience Some ways to grow your career in the attractions space How GenZers are different than previous generations Plus, David shares his journey from Monterey Bay Aquarium to SSA Ventures This podcast is produced by attend media. attend helps nonprofit attractions driv...
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12 months ago
29 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
Influencer Marketing as Paid Advertising
Jenny considers influencer marketing a 'paid advertising' tactic, not just a PR play. She argues that we need to look at influencer marketing the same way as we look at billboards, radio, or any other form of advertising. Influencer marketing as paid advertising means...We need to determine a budget and develop a strategic plan like we would with radio, TV, or any other ad investment. We can proactively find influencers that align with the audiences we want to target. Secure us...
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1 year ago
33 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
What Marketing Should Look for in their Next Ticketing System
One of the pain points for marketing teams always seems to be their organization's ticketing system. They can't get the customer data and/or they can't attribute back online ticket sales to online advertising. We brought in Michelle Paul from BackOffice Thinking to get her thoughts on how marketing can get the most out of their ticketing system. We cover:A few good and not-so-good reasons to switch ticketing systems The common mistakes organizations make when looking for a new syste...
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1 year ago
37 minutes

The Marketing Attractions Podcast
When your attraction has already maxed out on attendance, where does new revenue come from? In this episode, we sit down with John Abrahamson – formerly of the Monterey Bay Aquarium and the upcoming Nat Geo Museum – to talk about creative ways cultural attractions can grow earned revenue while staying true to their mission. John shares how he helped Monterey Bay Aquarium expand beyond its walls through immersive VR experiences, sustainable food and beverage programs (including saying goodbye ...