Upcycled Food: the Climate Solution Sitting in Your Trash with Emily Lafferty and Amanda Oenbring
What if the future of food isn’t about creating more, but wasting less? In this episode of The Drip, we sit down with Amanda Oenbring, CEO of the Upcycled Food Association, and Emily Lafferty, Director of Supply Chain at Seven Sundays, a breakfast brand rewriting the rules of what ends up on your plate.
Together, they’re part of a movement turning food system “waste” into something far more valuable: a solution. We go deep on the science, the systems, and the surprising innovations behind upcycled ingredients. Think of it as ingredient alchemy: transforming by-products into breakfast, and inefficiencies into impact.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(00:07) Upcycling 101: What it really means
(00:54) Meet Emily Lafferty and Amanda Oenbring
(03:42) What is upcycled food, exactly?
(05:09) Food waste: The hidden giant
(07:26) Upcycled ingredients in action
(09:10) Tech hurdles and how to solve them
(18:57) This episode’s song recommendation.
(19:34) This episode’s mantra.
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The Highwomen by Crowded Table, music was chosen by Amanda
Sunday Vibes by Masego, music was chosen by Emily
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Laura Lampa is a scientist turned communicator and the founder and CEO of LML StoryLab Consulting. She translates complex scientific concepts into compelling narratives that resonate with wider audiences. On this episode of The Drip, Laura outlines why some groundbreaking scientific innovations struggle to capture public attention and how the art of storytelling can be the key to bridging this critical gap.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(00:53) Introduction to storytelling in science
(03:46) Key principles for effective communication
(07:22) Simplifying technical topics with real-world examples
(11:53) Improving internal communication in companies
(22:20) This episode’s song recommendation.
(23:12) This episode’s mantra.
00:00 "Communicating Breakthroughs: Science Storytelling"
05:20 From Jargon to Relatable Science
09:49 Effective Layered Communication Strategy
12:52 Navigating Uncertainty in Mergers
16:02 Effective Communication Drives Future Sales
17:17 Content Trends: Visuals and Transparency
20:59 Aqualab: Communicating Scientific Innovations
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"Just Can't Get Enough" by Depeche Mode, music was chosen by Laura Lampa
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Ali Alwattari from Kraton Corporation has been working in product innovation for over 33 years, spanning industries from consumer goods to biotechnology and energy. His passion lies in integrating the human dimension and storytelling into scientific work, accelerating innovation and tackling challenges from the lab to the market. He joins The Drip to share his creative process and reflect on the unique products he's developed over his career.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(00:53) Ali's journey in product innovation across diverse industries.
(03:46) The significance of the human dimension in scientific work.
(07:22) Realistic imagination's role in innovation.
(11:53) Ali's creative process and examples of innovative projects.
(25:47) The future of innovation in the food industry
(29:59) Resources Ali recommends
(36:44) This episode’s song recommendation.
(37:29) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
Links mentioned in this episode:
‘Disruptive Innovation' by Clayton Christensen
'Rules for Revolutionaries' by Guy Kawasaki
‘Entrepreneurs in High Technology' by Dr. Roberts
Viva La Vida by Coldplay, music was chosen by Ali Alwattari
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00:00 Reusable Skills Drive Success
04:26 Empathy and Emotion in Innovation
08:46 Translating Concepts into Scientific Terms
11:40 Nature-Inspired Water-Repellent Textiles
15:52 Innovative Mascara Formulation Insights
18:57 Dimples Revolutionize Gel Adhesion
20:16 Shaving Gel Chemistry Evolution
23:17 Simplified Product Development Framework
27:00 Need-Driven Innovation in Food Industry
32:31 "Professionalizing Innovation and Mentorship"
35:46 "Product Innovation & Music Groove"
37:49 Strength Over Struggle
Anđela Martinović holds a PhD in Food Systems from the University of Milan, specializing in probiotics and gut health. As a co-founder and program development coordinator at epiSTEMe Hub, she advances science, innovation, and technology with a focus on Montenegro. Angela joins The Drip to explore the complexities of probiotics, from production to their journey in the human GI system, and the role multidisciplinary research plays in this field.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(00:53) Understanding the definition and challenges of probiotics.
(03:46) Overview of the probiotic production process.
(07:22) Importance of water activity in probiotics' journey through the gut.
(09:52) Angela’s PhD research insights on probiotic survival and functionality.
(13:46) Analyzing the probiotic market in Montenegro.
(18:10) Future directions and emerging trends in probiotics
(26:05) This episode’s song recommendation.
(26:45) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
Links mentioned in this episode:
‘Uncovering the Probiotic Supplement Landscape: Market Offerings, Sales Patterns, and Future Forecasts Using Machine Learning Approach - A Case Study of Montenegro’ by Anđela Martinović et. al (2024)
Spread Your Wings by Queen, music was chosen by Anđela Martinović
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00:00 Probiotic Survival and Functionality
05:04 Optimizing Probiotic Production Factors
07:03 Ensuring Probiotic Stability: Key Factors
11:45 Streptococcus Thermophilus' Urase Activity Reduction
14:59 Enhancing Standards and Analyzing Sales
18:10 Multidisciplinary Collaboration Key to Probiotic Innovation
20:31 Emerging Trends in Probiotics
26:17 "Push the Temple" Review
27:07 "Releasing Toxicity: The Drip"
Abigail Thiel is a Food Scientist and YouTuber of ‘Abbey the Food Scientist’. She is a postdoctoral researcher at Wageningen University in the Netherlands, focusing on food quality and design, with a particular interest in ice cream microstructure, healthier fat alternatives, and sustainable food production. She joins The Drip to delve into the fascinating world of ice cream science, from its microstructure to the intricacies of creating healthier and more sustainable sweet treats.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
00:00 Ice Cream Texture Research Funding
03:48 Started YouTube During Covid Lockdown
08:40 Yeast-Based Milk Protein Production
12:50 Abby's Food Science Courses Online
15:31 Tackling Ice Cream Moisture Migration
16:36 "Mesmerizing Down Tempo Collaboration"
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(00:53) How Abby started studying the science of ice cream through a USDA-funded project focusing on healthier fats.
(03:46) The difference between variegates and inclusions and their importance in ice cream.
(07:22) Balancing texture and health in food, and how it is a central theme in Abby's research.
(11:53) Abby's venture into YouTube during the COVID-19 lockdown.
(14:37) This episode’s song recommendation.
(15:28) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
Liftoff by Adastra and Bethany Agustin
Links mentioned in this episode:
Abbey the Food Scientist – Website
Abbey the Food Scientist – YouTube
Taylor Swift, music was chosen by Abigail Thiel
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Rachel Zemser from A La Carte Connections is a lifelong food scientist and consultant, dedicated to helping companies formulate and develop innovative food products. She is the author of "The Food Business Toolkit for Entrepreneurs" and holds degrees in food science from the University of Massachusetts Amherst and the University of Illinois. She has also attended culinary school in New York. Rachel joins The Drip by AQUALAB to explore the intricacies of food science consulting and entrepreneurial challenges in the food industry.
00:00 Food Science Consulting Insights
05:26 Entrepreneurs Vs. Big Brand Ingredients
08:23 Designing a Custom Snack Bar
13:02 Finding the Right Co-Packer
14:14 Evaluating Co-Packer Suitability
19:52 Preparing for Food Science Consulting
21:14 Essential Skills for Food Consultants
26:51 Food Science Consulting Expertise
28:08 Song and Mantra for Upliftment
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
Featured Artist and Song:
Here with Me by Marshmello
Links mentioned in this episode:
A La Carte Connections
Rachel Zemser on LinkedIn
Strange Currencies by REM, music was chosen by Rachel Zemser
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AQUALAB
Zachary Cartwright, PhD
Dr. Carolyn Ross is a professor of food science and the director of the Washington State University School of Food Science. Her expertise covers sensory science, human perception of food textures, and the formulation of food products tailored to different populations. She joins The Drip to unpack texture's critical role in food acceptance and how this knowledge can be leveraged to design foods for diverse groups, from children with Down syndrome to older adults.
00:00 Understanding food texture is crucial for acceptance.
03:52 Down syndrome: 80% have eating and swallowing difficulties.
07:35 Individual consumer needs shape food product development.
10:16 Behavioral and preference studies on children, adults.
16:02 Include targeted users in product design decisions.
18:28 Water activity affects food consistency over time.
21:49 AQUALAB collaboration enhances food sensory evaluation.
23:53 Mantra: "I'm brave enough to climb any mountain."
Roman Libov is a food scientist specializing in plant-based foods and the incorporation of bioactive and psychoactive fungi into nutraceuticals. In this episode of The Drip, we learn about Roman’s journey from mental health to food science. We explore the challenges and innovations in incorporating psychoactive fungi into food products, the intersection of food science and psychedelics, and the promising future of fungi in the food industry and mental health therapeutics.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(03:45) What is fungi's nutritional, medicinal, and sensory potential?
(06:59) How psilocybin affects brain serotonin receptors and the “Entourage Effect”.
(11:50) The importance of water activity for bioactive preservation.
(13:25) How psilocybin stability is affected by environmental factors.
(16:54) Why fungi are gaining popularity in health food.
(22:28) This episode’s song recommendation.
(23:26) This episode’s mantra.
00:00 Fungi's future role: food, health, psychedelics, innovation.
04:19 Fungi offer innovative, eco-friendly food solutions.
08:36 Psychoactive fungi consumed as gummies or chocolates.
10:27 Maintaining bioactive compounds' stability in food matrices.
13:24 Psilocybin stability affected by processing and elements.
16:54 Fungi increasingly popular in food and health.
21:55 Sponsored content about fungi ingredients and music.
23:52 Embrace authenticity and self-understanding; stay hydrated.
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Links mentioned in this episode:
‘Virtual Reality as a Moderator of Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy’ by Agnieszka D. Sekula, Luke Downey, Prashanth Puspanathan (2022)
‘Psychoactive Fungi Formulations in Nutritive and Palatable Food Matrices: Options for Clinical and Non-clinical Use’ by Roman Libov (2023)
‘Psychedelics and virtual reality: parallels and applications’ by Jacob S. Aday, Christopher C. Davoli, Emily K. Bloesch (2020)
My Time by Sultan + Shepard, music was chosen by Roman Libov
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Lovedeep Kaur is an Associate Professor at Massey University in New Zealand. Her specialties include sustainable food processing technologies, circular food systems, and innovative food processing. She joins The Drip to unpack the cutting-edge innovations she is seeing that are transforming the way we process and enjoy meat.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(00:53) How sustainable technology boosts efficient, waste-free meat processing.
(03:46) The ways of enhancing meat flavour, texture and safety.
(07:22) Key technologies that improve protein digestibility and nutrient preservation.
(11:53) Factoring in food safety and public health.
(14:37) This episode’s song recommendation.
(15:28) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
Links mentioned in this episode:
‘High pressure processing of meat: Effects on ultrastructure and protein digestibility’ (2016) by Lovedeep Kaur et al.
Hass Hass, by Diljit Dosanjh x Sia, music was chosen by Lovedeep Kaur
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00:00 New tech aids sustainable meat processing practices.
03:46 Innovative technologies enhance food flavor and texture.
07:22 Advanced technologies improve protein digestibility and nutrient preservation.
11:53 Technologies improve health, nutrition, and food safety.
13:47 AQUALAB helps the meat industry with moisture control.
Alyssa Norris is the Director of Sustainability at Aether Fuels. She sits down with Zachary Cartwright to discuss how we can produce aviation fuel from waste, and how you don’t have to choose between seeing the world and saving it. Alyssa will shed light on the production, impact, and future of this fuel. We'll also discuss its current usage, the processes involved, and how it plays a crucial role in reducing greenhouse gas emissions and supporting a circular economy.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(03:44) SAF is made from hydrogen, carbon, and waste materials.
(08:41) Airlines will adopt sustainable fuel, therefore lowering costs.
(10:25) Why electric flight tech lags and SAF infrastructure is more simple.
(14:04) Being a startup leader focusing on sustainability and compliance.
(16:07) Which flight operators are currently using SAF?
(20:35) This episode’s song recommendation.
(21:22) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
Links mentioned in this episode:
Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance
Everyone Deserves The Chance To Fly by WICKED, music was chosen by Alyssa Norris
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00:00 SAF reduces emissions, fossil reliance, and aids sustainability.
03:44 SAF uses hydrogen, carbon, and various waste sources.
08:46 Increasing SAF adoption will reduce its cost.
10:15 SAF enables existing infrastructure use, batteries are inefficient.
14:03 Startup focuses on sustainability, compliance, and stakeholder engagement.
16:05 Alaska and United boost sustainable aviation fuel initiatives.
19:50 Aqualab sponsors moisture analysis in fuels discussion.
Ravi Karkara and Vinay Indraganti, from AI For Food Global Initiative, join the Drip to discuss their new book ‘The AI for Food Movement’. We'll explore how AI is transforming food production, from creating consistent culinary experiences to enhancing sustainability. Tune in as we address challenges like AI adoption fears and data integration, the role in flavor development and personalized dining, and manufacturing efficiencies.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(03:39) How big data optimizes farming and food logistics.
(08:25) Sustainability innovations in agriculture: AI, emissions and drones.
(10:58) How AI enhances sensory neuroscience and flavor chemistry.
(17:10) The AI vending machine which offers customizable drink combinations.
(24:09) There is a need to promote positive AI perception in processed food.
(26:26) Mastering AI involves data integration and artistry.
(30:08) Building AI-skilled professionals for sustainable food production.
(33:44) Establish boundaries, evaluate regularly, and address ethical implications.
(36:08) Food's cultural, political, and religious dimensions influence meaning.
(41:40) This episode’s song recommendation
(42:24) This episode's mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
Places to Be by Fred again..
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Matthew Moore is an Associate Professor at the University of Massachusetts, Department of Food Science who is recognized for his groundbreaking research on foodborne pathogens. In this episode, we’ll tackle the risks of influenza H5N1 jumping to mammals and debunk misconceptions about foodborne illnesses, especially noroviruses. We’ll also explore cutting-edge virus detection methods using magnetic liquids and nanopore technology, and discuss the impact of climate change on virus transmission.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(05:56) Viruses must withstand harsh conditions to infect.
(08:14) Key Nnorovirus research: viral entry, replication, and ongoing breakthroughs.
(12:56) Using bacteria to capture viruses cost-effectively.
(14:04) Engineering E. Coli for norovirus detection and collaboration.
(17:08) Fingerprint norovirus to identify outbreaks accurately.
(23:50) Researching virus resistance to disinfectants and application.
(25:20) Students advancing magnetic liquids for virus detection.
(29:05) How climate change and mycotoxins affect food safety.
(33:01) Current H5N1 risk to humans remains low.
(36:00) The guest’s favorite artist and song
(38:34) Featured artist and song
(39:13) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
Links mentioned in this episode:
University of Massachusetts, Department of Food Science
Dr Matthew Moore’s current research
Outstanding Young Scientist Award in honor of Samuel Cate Prescott
Calculating Infinity by The Dillinger Escape Plan, music was chosen by Matthew Moore
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Mario Gonzalez Angulo is the HPP Food Applications Manager at Hiperbaric High Pressure Technologies. Curious about how your guacamole stays fresh? High Pressure Processing (HPP) is a non-thermal food preservation method that harnesses oceanic-level pressures to inactivate foodborne pathogens and extend the shelf life of various products… all while preserving their nutritional and sensory qualities. We’ll explore the history, application, and potential of this revolutionary technology, as well as its effects on the molecular level.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(04:43) pH and water activity determine microbial inactivation.
(06:54) How pressure affects weak bonds, not strong covalent bonds.
(12:50) Why clostridium botulinum struggles to grow in coconut water.
(16:54) The guest’s favorite artist and song
(20:30) Featured artist and song
(22:31) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
Cheshmhaye Tameshki by Marjan Farsad, sung by Roodabeh Derakhshanian
Links mentioned in this episode:
Hiperbaric High Pressure Technologies
The Scientist by Coldplay, music was chosen by Mario Gonzalez Angulo
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Subhendu Nayak is the Director of Formulation (Probiotics and Herbal) at Vida Herbs. He joins The Drip to talk about the complexities of manufacturing, from blending to storage, and the crucial role of water activity in maintaining probiotic potency. We'll also explore the nuances between CFU and AFU measurements and discuss innovative yet straightforward solutions.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(03:39) How AW measures the vapor pressure ratio in foods.
(08:01) Minimize water activity to prevent probiotic die-off.
(10:12) Molecular sieves control water activity and maintain potency.
(15:20) Preferred sugar alcohols for coolness.
(17:34) Granular ingredients ensure better stick-pack sealing.
(22:54) Water activity control in oil prevents decay.
(25:39) Plate counting measures CFU per gram.
(30:20) Viable but unculturable cell health benefits questioned.
(32:41) The guest’s favorite artist and song
(35:09) Featured artist and song
(38:25) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
Sometimes Somehow by Eric E.
Links mentioned in this episode:
One Dance by Drake, music was chosen by Subhendu
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Marcus Washington is the co-founder of FSQA Help in Oklahoma. Marcus joins The Drip to address the challenges faced by emerging food brands, the importance of understanding regulations, and the role of consulting in maintaining compliance. He also shares his experiences managing a small farm, the science behind animal health, and his entrepreneurial journey of his own food business.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(05:48) Navigating food classification regulations.
(07:40) Why is ensuring animal safety vital for food safety?
(13:36) Key lessons from Grad school farm visits.
(14:53) Promote food safety through farm relationships and volunteering.
(20:13 Decision-making is like playing poker in life.
(18:58) The guest’s favorite artist and song
(23:24) Featured artist and song
(24:22) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
NRG by PiCO THE GUYO
Links mentioned in this episode:
Pink Friday 2 by Nicki Minaj, music was chosen by Marcus Washington
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Transforming Invasive Plants into Valuable Resources – The Biochar Solution with Pratikshya Silwal
Pratikshya Silwal recently finished for PhD in agricultural economics from Oklahoma State University. She joins The Drip to share how biochar, a form of charcoal produced through pyrolysis, can be used as a sustainable additive in potting mixes. We'll uncover how it can replace conventional components, the size and growth of the global biochar market, and its environmental impact. Pratikshya also shares insights into her groundbreaking research on converting the problematic eastern red cedar tree into valuable biochar and discusses consumer willingness to adopt this innovative product.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(01:05) What is biochar?
(03:39) How the invasive eastern red cedar threatens ecosystems and agriculture.
(07:32) Some studies show negative effects of biochar.
(12:14) The power of the optimistic mindset: everything happens for the best.
(14:44) Featured artist and song
(15:46) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
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One Love by Blue, music was chosen by Pratikshya Silwal
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Breanna Neff from brelixi, delves into the innovation of nanoemulsified technology in the cannabis space. As a certified food scientist and founder, she shares her expertise on the advancements of nano-infused edibles, the benefits of different cannabinoids, and her journey in creating functional cannabis products. We'll also explore the science behind fast-acting cannabis, the diverse consumer market, and how her company is overcoming social stigmas associated with edibles.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(05:00) How brelixi offers fast-acting cannabis wellness products.
(09:22) Turmeric's anti-inflammatory benefits and market research.
(10:17) How small businesses can overcome challenges through networking.
(13:21) The guest’s favorite artist and song
(16:34) Featured artist and song
(18:06) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
RIGHT NOW by NASTY CAT
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Feel Good Inc. by Gorillaz, music was chosen by Breanna Neff
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Marlana Malerich is the Co-Founder and Sustainable Food Systems Researcher at the Rooted Research Collective (RRC). Marlana, poised to begin her PhD at Sussex University, has spent the last six months focused on ultra-processed foods and plant-based meat alternatives. She joins the show to unpack the complexities of defining and understanding ultra-processed foods through systems like NOVA and Nutri-Score.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(03:50) Negative effects of globally distributed junk food.
(08:18) Focus on alternative proteins, and challenges with food advertising.
(11:07) Media focusing on ultra-processed foods labeling.
(14:38) Ultra-processed foods are designed for overconsumption.
(20:07) Plant-based options vary in nutrition quality.
(23:39 Reminding myself to appreciate being here alive.
(26:50) Featured artist and song
(29:09) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
Deep Mind by ROBMON
Links mentioned in this episode:
‘Nutrition and health. The issue is not food, nor nutrients, so much as processing’ by Carlos A Monteiro
‘The Impact of Transnational ‘‘Big Food’’ Companies on the South: A View from Brazil’ by Carlos A Monteiro
‘Ultra-processed foods: how functional is the NOVA system?’ by Véronique Braesco, et al
'Hyper-Palatable Foods: Development of a Quantitative Definition and Application to the US Food System Database' by Tera L. Fazzino
Is the Ultra-processed Food (UPF) concept useful, and for what goals?
‘Ultra-processed food exposure and adverse health outcomes: umbrella review of epidemiological meta-analyses’ by Melissa M Lane et al
‘Food Politics’ by Marion Nestle
Alabora (Foxall Pale Blue Remix) by Beyhude, music was chosen by Marlana Malerich
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Navigating Food Safety Challenges: Bruce Ferree’s 40-Year Career in Food Science
Bruce Ferree, a food safety consultant, unpacks the world of food safety and quality management. Bruce's career spans over four decades, encompassing meats, poultry, dairy, and aseptic processing roles. He’s a distinguished member of the Institute of Food Technologists and a former US Marine and cancer survivor. Bruce shares valuable insights from his vast experience in the food industry, the evolution of food safety culture, and the significance of consistency, continuous improvement, and prevention.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(05:03) Workers who take ownership of quality and safety.
(07:14) Integration of quality teams for efficient collaboration.
(12:39) Challenges in food safety mirror cancer survival.
(17:09) Diverse food scientists unite in global organization.
(19:13) Pesticides, heavy metals and public awareness.
(25:00) Featured artist and song
(25:57) This episode’s Mantra
Featured Artist and Song:
QUEMA by NASTY CAT
Links mentioned in this episode:
Institute of Food Technologists
Bang the Drum All Day by Todd Rundgren, music was chosen by Bruce Ferree.
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Digitizing Food Safety: Innovations in Middle East and North Africa with Fidele El Achkar
Fidele El Achkar is the visionary founder of FoodSight, an initiative aimed at revolutionizing the food industry in the Middle East and North Africa. By digitizing food safety and industry activities, Fidele seeks to modernize traditional practices, ensuring they align with global trends. FoodSight fosters collaboration among freelancers, international experts, and service providers, creating an ecosystem where stakeholders work together using a customized approach.
In this episode, you’ll hear about:
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(05:19) How FoodSight aims to unite industry stakeholders and create job opportunities.
(07:01) Assisting producers with export and compliance issues.
(11:58) Experts fill out detailed profiles and questionnaires.
(16:17) Repositioning FoodSights as a social enterprise and expanding globally.
(19:44) This episode’s song.
(21:40) This episode’s mantra.
Featured Artist and Song:
FIGHT 4 ME by NASTY CAT
Links mentioned in this episode:
Woman by Andreya Triana,a song recommendation by Fidele El Achkar
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