This conversation was recorded in German and translated and dubbed by ChatGPT and CapCut.This time Daniela was invited by Daniel Melle to his Podcast to have a conversation about the Third Attractor.This is the original Video in German on Daniel's channel: https://youtu.be/-x2miAotxa0?si=qMywq7S51-spEQaS
Daniel Melle is a German “cultural hacker” and self‑described architect of the Third Attractor—a future possibility beyond collapse or control, toward regenerative systems and evolutionary culture.
With a practice rooted in the philosophy of Spiral Dynamics, consciousness development, and technological evolution, Daniel works at the intersection of narrative, perception, and collective transition. He explores how cultural operating‑systems (narratives, habits, memes) transform into movements and new forms of society.
In his role as facilitator and speaker, he invites individuals and groups to become “resonance‑bodies for what is emerging,” shifting cultural codes so that new collaborative architectures can arise. His work spans online workshops, consulting around conscious change, and writing on the evolution of culture in rapid‑change environments. Daniel Melle
In the Co‑Creating the Third Attractor series, Daniel offers a compelling voice for how we might move from systems of fragmentation into coherent planetary co‑creation—bringing depth, systems‑awareness and a pioneering spirit to the conversation.
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Christopher Cooke is the founder and Managing Director of 5 Deep Limited and the co-founder of 3LM, the Savory Network hub for the UK & Ireland. Trained in change leadership and systems thinking (MSc, BA) and a Fellow of the RSA, he’s known for applying Spiral Dynamics / integral frameworks to real-world regeneration and Holistic Management. At 3LM he serves as an Accredited Professional of the Savory Institute, educator, field professional, and Ecological Outcome Verifier, with work on rangelands and farms in the UK, Australia, and drought-affected regions. His change practice dates back to the early 1980s, and he’s helped farmers, businesses, and public leaders shift from sustainability to long-term regeneration
https://www.5deep.net
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Elizabeth Debold, Ed.D. is co-founder of emerge bewusstseinskultur in Germany and evolve World internationally, where she leads global programs, cultural collaborations, and outreach in English. She is also a senior editor at evolve magazine, contributing regularly on themes of gender and social transformation.
For over four decades, Elizabeth has been at the forefront of gender and cultural evolution. The first half of her career was devoted to women’s rights activism and academic research in developmental psychology at Harvard University, where she studied with Dr. Carol Gilligan and helped establish the Harvard Project on Women’s Psychology and Girls’ Development.
Over the past two decades, her inquiry has deepened—exploring the foundations of self and relationship through the lens of consciousness. Her work reveals how gender identity is inseparably entangled with social systems—economics, media, politics—and intersecting hierarchies of race, wealth, culture, and religion.
A passionate architect of transformational dialogue, Elizabeth is especially interested in creating microcultures where diverse individuals can connect across differences to unlock new creative and evolutionary potentials. The programs of emerge are living laboratories for this vision.
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Diane Musho Hamilton was the first Director of the Office of Alternative Dispute Resolution for the Utah Judiciary, where she established mediation programs across the state court system. She has mediated a wide range of disputes—from divorces and contracts to multi-party negotiations—and works with ease across private, governmental, and non-profit sectors.
Widely recognized for her pioneering work in dialogue, particularly on culture, race, gender, and religion, Diane has received numerous awards, including the Peter W. Billings Award, the Peacekeeper Award, and the Peacemaker Award from BYU’s Center for Conflict Resolution.
A dedicated meditation practitioner for over 35 years, Diane began her spiritual path at Naropa University with Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche and later became a Zen student, receiving ordination as a monk in 2003 and dharma transmission from Genpo Roshi in 2006. For her, Zen practice is a commitment to experiencing reality as it is—beautiful, ungraspable, and seamless.
She facilitates the Big Mind Big Heart process and is a pioneer in applying Integral Theory, working with Ken Wilber and the Integral Institute since 2004. In 2008, she co-founded Two Arrows Zen in Utah with her husband, Michael Mugaku Zimmerman, and also co-founded the Integral Facilitator training program.
Diane is the author of three books with Shambhala Publications:
Everything Is Workable: A Zen Approach to Conflict Resolution (2013)
The Zen of You and Me: A Guide to Getting Along with Just About Anyone (2017)
Compassionate Conversations: How to Speak and Listen from the Heart (2020, co-authored with Gabriel Wilson and Kimberly Loh)
https://twoarrowszen.org/https://www.dianemushohamilton.com/
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Jon Eden Khan is a transformational leader, mentor, and facilitator based in Berlin. He is the initiator of Singularity, a transnational political party pioneering new forms of governance and leadership rooted in the Earth as one sacred Life, and the founder of AVATARA, an international spiritual community dedicated to humanity’s collective awakening.
Jon mentors purpose-driven leaders across sectors—from corporate executives and FinTech innovators to Middle Eastern activists and global facilitators of transformational work.
Formerly European Director of the Global Purpose Movement, he also co-founded Synergy Forum, integrating spiritual awakening with social innovation and systems transformation.
Jon’s life journey spans extremes—from homelessness and addiction in his youth to co-leading international initiatives devoted to the evolution of consciousness, leadership, and collective purpose.
https://www.singularity-earth.org
https://www.avatara.one/
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Benjamin De Pauw is an entrepreneur, systems designer, and creative strategist working at the intersection of media, technology, and conscious evolution. He is the founder of Transpersonal Systems, a public benefit company creating media environments to support a flourishing planetary civilization.
With over two decades of experience in media production and software development, Benjamin previously founded and led award-winning digital agency Ursa Minor, producing websites, films, music, educational programs, and campaigns for mission-driven organizations. Earlier, he ran Conscious Sound Productions, developing innovative audio pipelines for major interactive projects with companies such as Disney, Fox, Sega, and Take-Two Interactive.
A lifelong learner and visionary, Benjamin is dedicated to advancing conscious evolution through purpose-designed media technology and creative strategy that bridges culture, systems, and planetary sustainability.
Specialties: conscious evolution, integral philosophy, creative/media strategy, systems design, sustainability, UX/UI, and organizational innovation.
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com. She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com)
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Over the next months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Bruce Alderman is an integral psychologist, writer, and spiritual explorer known for his work in metatheory, integral theory, and transpersonal psychology. He is Associate Director of the Blue Sky Leaders program at CIIS and teaches consciousness, psychology, and transformation at National University. Alderman also produces The Integral Stage Podcast, exploring integrative responses to social, ecological, and spiritual challenges.With experience teaching in Asia and studying in monastic communities and ashrams, he holds a master’s degree in Integral Psychology from John F. Kennedy University. His work bridges spiritual, psychological, philosophical, ecological, and scientific domains, and he has published in the Journal of Integral Theory and Practice while fostering collaborative forums for integral and metamodern dialogue.
https://www.ciis.edu/blueskyleaders
https://www.ciis.edu
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com ) and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen.
She recently published the book "The Viratya Myth begins" (https://www.viratya.com)
Website: www.manifest-nirvana.com Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Robb Smith is founder of the Institute of Applied Metatheory and a leading voice in integral philosophy and the global integrative metatheory movement. He coined the term the Transformation Age and is CEO and co-founder of Integral Life, a hub of the integral movement. He previously founded Chrysallis, the world’s most comprehensive human development app, recognized by Goldman Sachs and IONS before being acquired in 2016. Robb also served as CEO of Integral Institute, which applied integral metatheory across 60 academic fields and published the Journal of Integral Theory and Practice.Earlier in his career, he co-founded Nevada Ventures, the state’s first venture capital fund, and was a founding member of the Conscious Capitalism movement. He has served on corporate boards, co-founded Nevada Nano, and helped build Nevada’s innovation economy. Named Nevada’s Young Entrepreneur of the Year and appearing on “Top 20 under 40” lists in three decades, he has been a fellow of the Aspen Institute and Desert Research Institute, and was nominated for the TED Prize.Website: https://appliedmetatheory.org/Whitepaper mentioned in our conversation: https://appliedmetatheory.org/a-sociology-of-big-pictures/Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana (www.manifest-nirvana.com ) and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She recently published the book "The Viratya Myth begins" (www.viratya.com)
Website: www.manifest-nirvana.com ,
Instagram: #evolutionarynun
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Nish Dubashia is a British author and Integral thinker who studied at the University of Warwick alongside leading research mathematicians. He is the creator of the Diamond Model—a unique synthesis of Bohmian physics, Integral Theory, and Eastern philosophy.He has presented his work at major international conferences, including the Humanity Rising Global Summit, World Unity Week, the Integral European Conference, and UNESCO’s World Philosophy Day. Nish has authored four books, including The Unity of Everything (voted UK Book of the Month in 2018) and his most recent release, A Brief History of God: From Tribal Spirits to Cosmic Consciousness—a sweeping exploration of the evolution of human spirituality and consciousness.He is a faculty member at The Collective Edge and co-founder of Evolving Nexus, a platform for transformative learning and Integral development. You can find his latest book "A Brief History of God: From Nature Spirits to Cosmic Consciousness" here: https://a.co/d/dOTrBxM Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://viratya.com )
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Brandon Nørgaard is a co-founder of The Civic Enlightenment Project, an initiative aiming to promote improved sensemaking, civic engagement, and inner development through networks of local civil society hubs and meta-hubs. He is also a graduate student studying wisdom design at the California Institute for Human Science (CIHS). He started his career as a software engineer and has recently been involved in the convergence of metatheory, technology, and community development. He has been involved with metacrisis studies and is working to bring integral concepts and practices to the community level and to metamodernize legacy institutions.
Connect with Brandon at https://civicenlightenment.org/
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen.
(www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://viratya.com)
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Holly Woods, PhD, founder of Emergence Institute and creator of the Living Portal™️ framework, guides visionary leaders and change-makers to reclaim their multidimensional wholeness and bring sourced creations into the world. With a background spanning human development, science, and ancient wisdom traditions, Holly helps individuals and organizations evolve beyond problem-solving toward innovations born from the unified field of being. She is the author of The Golden Thread: Where to Find Purpose in the Stages of Your Life and a lifelong explorer of the intersection of consciousness, creativity, and cosmology.
Connect with Holly at https://livingportal.co or https://emergenceinstitute.net or LinkedIn.
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com) and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025. She is also the author of the book "The Viratya Myth begins" (https://viratya.com). She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen.
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Rufus Pollock is an entrepreneur, researcher and technologist working to create an open information age. Founder and President of Open Knowledge, a leading international non-profit that empowers people and organizations with access to information and the tools and skills to make sense of it. A recognized global expert on open data and open knowledge. He has worked with multiple governments, IGOs such as the World Bank and the UN, businesses and CSOs.
You can find more about his projects here:
https://secondrenaissance.net/
https://secondrenaissance.net/oasis
https://secondrenaissance.net/paper
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen.
(https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com )
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Martin Rutte is an international speaker, consultant, and president of Livelihood, a management consulting firm based in Charlottetown, Canada and Santa Fe, New Mexico. He has worked with major organizations such as: Sony Pictures, Apple, Virgin Records, and The World Bank, helping them expand their vision and embrace creative leadership. He has spoken at prestigious venues including the Harvard Business School’s Corporate Leadership & Ethics Forum and has addressed global audiences across North and South America, Europe, and Asia. Martin is also the co-author of the New York Times bestseller Chicken Soup for the Soul at Work, which has sold over 1.1 million copies in 24 languages.For more than 15 years, Martin has led Project Heaven on Earth, a global initiative inviting people to envision and create a better world through three simple questions. His most recent book, Project Heaven on Earth: The 3 Simple Questions That Will Help You Change the World … Easily, presents this work as a new narrative for humanity. A pioneer in integrating spirituality into the workplace, Martin has been featured in international media and served on numerous boards and councils. He lives on Prince Edward Island with his wife Maida, to whom he has been happily married for over 50 years.Link to his book "Project Heaven on Earth": https://a.co/d/7O48bXmLink to the Video with the party-leaders Martin mentions in this talk: • All 4 Political Party Leaders in Prince Ed... Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com)
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Abhishek is the founder of The Blue Ribbon Movement, fostering youth leadership and social impact. He has represented global youth at the UN and initiated the South Asian Youth Conference uniting leaders from all SAARC nations. A gold medalist from IIM Bangalore, he has worked with BCG and Hay Group across diverse sectors, and now pursues a PhD at IIT Bombay on leadership and work engagement. An author of three books with over 50k copies sold, he also writes the Laughing Buddha column for Life Positive magazine.Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com)
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Daniel Pinchbeck is an American author, journalist, and public intellectual recognized for his work exploring psychedelics, shamanism, ecology, and contemporary consciousness movements.He is the Author of "Breaking Open the Head", "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl", "How Soon Is Now", & "When Plants Dream". Host: LIMINAL NEWS Podcast. Founder: THE LIMINAL INSTITUTE, offering online seminars, eBooks, and audiobooks | www.liminal.news. https://substack.com/@danielpinchbeckDaniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https:/www.viratya.com )
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Over the next four months, I’ll be speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Layman Pascal is a contemporary philosopher, writer, and former meditation teacher known for his work in cultural philosophy, shamanism, and integral spirituality. He co-hosts The Integral Stage podcast and leads the Metamodern Spirituality Labs. Pascal is a founding member of several research organizations focused on spiritual development and metamodern thought.His work explores topics like analytic nonduality, sacred naturalism, and emerging models of spirituality for a post-postmodern world. He is senior editor of Emerge online and co-chair of the Foundation for Integral Spirituality and Religion. Pascal has authored Gurdjieff for a Time Between Worlds and contributes to various esoteric journals, making him a notable voice in contemporary integral philosophy and metamodern spirituality. / @theintegralstage8140 https://www.laymanpascal.com/Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, where she runs the small Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun https://www.viratya.com)
Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.This series of conversations explores that possibility.While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.Said Elias Dawlabani is a human evolution theorist and a leading authority on applying stage development to large-scale social and economic change. He is the author of three books: MEMEnomics (2013), which introduced his model of cultural economics; The Light of Ishtar (2021), a mythic memoir co-written with his wife Elza Maalouf; and Second Sapiens (2024), a visionary roadmap for the future of humanity in the age of climate change and the Anthropocene.Dawlabani is the founder of The MEMEnomics Group, dedicated to advancing regenerative economics, and cofounder of the Center for Human Emergence Middle East, a think tank addressing sociopolitical issues through cultural stage development. A close associate of Don Beck, co-creator of Spiral Dynamics, he has given keynote talks worldwide on sustainable economics and leadership. His work has been translated into over 20 languages, cited in academic research, and featured in Newsweek, Leader to Leader, The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, and more.
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.Daniela Bomatter is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. (https://www.manifest-nirvana.com , #evolutionarynun , https://www.viratya.com )
