Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.Elizabeth Debold, Ed.D. is co-founder of emerge bewusstseinskultur in Germany and evolve World internationally, where she leads global programs, cultural collaborations, and outreach in English. She is also a senior editor at evolve magazine, contributing regularly on themes of gender and social transformation.
For over four decades, Elizabeth has been at the forefront of gender and cultural evolution. The first half of her career was devoted to women’s rights activism and academic research in developmental psychology at Harvard University, where she studied with Dr. Carol Gilligan and helped establish the Harvard Project on Women’s Psychology and Girls’ Development.
Over the past two decades, her inquiry has deepened—exploring the foundations of self and relationship through the lens of consciousness. Her work reveals how gender identity is inseparably entangled with social systems—economics, media, politics—and intersecting hierarchies of race, wealth, culture, and religion.
A passionate architect of transformational dialogue, Elizabeth is especially interested in creating microcultures where diverse individuals can connect across differences to unlock new creative and evolutionary potentials. The programs of emerge are living laboratories for this vision.
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
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