Across the world, a new conversation is emerging—a conversation about the future of civilization itself.
As our existing systems reach their limits, we face an urgent crossroads: one path leads toward collapse, another toward increasing control and centralization. But a growing chorus of thinkers, visionaries, and cultural pioneers are pointing to a third possibility—a conscious, regenerative, and life-affirming future.
This series of conversations explores that possibility.
While we draw on the term Third Attractor—popularized by Daniel Schmachtenberger—this vision is part of a larger movement of aligned ideas: Regenerative Civilization, Metamodern Society, Game B, The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible, Planetary Civilization, The Integral Age, The Great Transition, Symbiotic Civilization, The Noosphere, Civilizational Awakening, and the Second Renaissance.
Each points toward a future rooted in wholeness, complexity, interconnection, and evolution.
Daniela is speaking with thought leaders and cultural change-agents who are helping to shape this emerging reality. We’ll explore what must die, what wants to be born, and how we might co-create a path forward that honors the full depth of our humanity and the profound challenges of our time.
These conversations are not just about ideas—they are about activating the future, together.
Christopher Cooke is the founder and Managing Director of 5 Deep Limited and the co-founder of 3LM, the Savory Network hub for the UK & Ireland. Trained in change leadership and systems thinking (MSc, BA) and a Fellow of the RSA, he’s known for applying Spiral Dynamics / integral frameworks to real-world regeneration and Holistic Management. At 3LM he serves as an Accredited Professional of the Savory Institute, educator, field professional, and Ecological Outcome Verifier, with work on rangelands and farms in the UK, Australia, and drought-affected regions. His change practice dates back to the early 1980s, and he’s helped farmers, businesses, and public leaders shift from sustainability to long-term regeneration
https://www.5deep.net
Daniela Bomatter, originally from Switzerland, is a former Software Engineer who progressed into various leadership roles, ultimately serving as the CEO of SwissEnergy at the Federal Office of Energy in Switzerland.
She is the co-founder of Manifest Nirvana and a senior practitioner of Evolutionary Enlightenment. She was a long-term student of Andrew Cohen and was closely studying, working and living with him from 2016 to 2025.
She lives in Tiruvannamalai, India, in a Small Sustainable Village (https://www.giamantraglobalvillage.com/) where she runs the Manifest Nirvana Ashram, where the in person - events of Manifest Nirvana happen. She also facilitates the activities in the online Ashram https://www.manifest-nirvana.com .
She recently published her first book “The Viratya Myth begins” (https://www.viratya.com )
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