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Work For Humans
Dart Lindsley
180 episodes
2 days ago
Modern work is haunted by an idea that began in feudal Europe. The Master Servant Doctrine gave employers the right to command and control workers while imposing a duty to provide for them. That ancient logic still shapes the modern workplace — from “at-will” employment and HR policies designed to protect companies, to benefits that bind people to their jobs. In this episode, Dart and Elizabeth explore how feudal ideas of control and obligation still structure employment today, and what it wo...
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Modern work is haunted by an idea that began in feudal Europe. The Master Servant Doctrine gave employers the right to command and control workers while imposing a duty to provide for them. That ancient logic still shapes the modern workplace — from “at-will” employment and HR policies designed to protect companies, to benefits that bind people to their jobs. In this episode, Dart and Elizabeth explore how feudal ideas of control and obligation still structure employment today, and what it wo...
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Episodes (20/180)
Work For Humans
The Master Servant Doctrine: How Feudal Law Still Shapes Modern Work | Elizabeth Tippett
Modern work is haunted by an idea that began in feudal Europe. The Master Servant Doctrine gave employers the right to command and control workers while imposing a duty to provide for them. That ancient logic still shapes the modern workplace — from “at-will” employment and HR policies designed to protect companies, to benefits that bind people to their jobs. In this episode, Dart and Elizabeth explore how feudal ideas of control and obligation still structure employment today, and what it wo...
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2 days ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Work For Humans
Designing Time: The Future of Experience Design | Dave Norton
Most organizations think about the design of work in terms of products, services, or customer journeys. But Dave Norton has spent his career arguing that experience design goes much deeper. It is about shaping how people spend their time and, in some cases, their lives. In this episode, Dart talks to Dave about how experience design has evolved, why context matters more than personality, and how AI may finally make transformational design scalable. Dave Norton is the founder of Stone Mantel,...
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1 week ago
1 hour 4 minutes

Work For Humans
Designing AI Tools That Think With You | Dmitri Glazkov
The tools we use shape how we work, what we see, and how we think. Dmitri Glazkov, Strategy Lead at Google Labs, initiated Breadboard and helped launch Opal—tools that let people connect prompts into systems that think together like Tinkertoys for the mind. His passion is building technology that makes creativity easier and more human. In this episode, Dart and Dmitri explore how AI can capture tacit knowledge, why strategy gets embedded in culture, and how to design “tiny brains” that think ...
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 8 minutes

Work For Humans
Vitsœ: Building a Company That Lasts by Breaking the Rules | Mark Adams
Most companies chase growth by selling more things to more people, faster. Mark Adams has spent nearly 40 years proving there is another way. As Director of Vitsœ, he runs the company with one mission: to help people live better with less that lasts longer. In this episode, Dart talks to Mark about why Vitsœ resists conventional business rules, how it builds longevity and trust into everything it makes, and what it means to design a company that could outlive its founders. Mark Adams has led...
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Work For Humans
AI as Dramaturg: What It Means to Create Art with a Machine | Matthew Gasda and Isobel McCrum
When playwright Matthew Gasda credited ChatGPT and Claude in the program for his play Doomers, it sparked a debate about whether machines belong in the creative process. The play wasn’t written by AI. It used AI as a dramaturg, a kind of philosophical collaborator, and that simple credit forced audiences to confront what it means to create alongside a machine. In this episode, Dart talks to Matt and Isobel about AI as dramaturg, the creative tension between human and machine, and how the sour...
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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

Work For Humans
Stories Over Surveys: Unlocking Human Truths About Work and Life | James Warren
Surveys and numbers can capture averages, but they can’t reveal the raw humanity of lived experience. Stories can. Stories connect us, capture nuance and emotion, and uncover the “why” behind our choices in ways numbers never will. In this episode, Dart and James Warren talk about why stories reveal truths surveys miss, how personal narratives can be transformed into meaningful change, and how organizations can flip the script to see their people more fully. James Warren founded Share More S...
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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes

Work For Humans
Architects of Transformation: Unlocking the Real Value of People | Michael Smith
Leaders today are under pressure from every direction: an unpredictable economy, the rise of AI, and the constant demand for transformation while keeping the business running. Few people see those challenges more clearly than Michael Smith. He argues that leaders make the greatest impact when they act as architects of transformation rather than playing defense. In this episode, Mike and Dart discuss what happens when HR is seen only as a cost and how CEOs and CFOs can unlock the real value of...
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1 month ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Work For Humans
Leadership Beyond the Individual: Relation in the Space Between Us | Jim Ferrell
One line in Martin Buber’s I and Thou stopped Jim Ferrell in his tracks. It made him realize that leadership isn’t inside the individual — it lives in the space between us. That insight became his new book, You and We: A Relational Rethinking of Work, Life, and Leadership. In it, Jim argues that progress doesn’t come from sameness, but from uniting across difference. In this episode, Jim and Dart discuss the four laws of relation, why relation is not the same as relationships, and how leaders...
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1 month ago
1 hour 1 minute

Work For Humans
Skills at Scale: Building Organizations That Truly Learn | Sandra Loughlin
For years, Dart doubted that companies could actually make skills the building blocks of work. They felt too abstract, too static, too disconnected from real daily work. But Sandra Loughlin proved that in some cases, skills can deliver real value. In this episode, Sandra explains why skills only matter in context, why stretch assignments drive real learning, and what it takes to build a true learning organization at scale. Dr. Sandra Loughlin is Chief Learning Scientist at EPAM Systems. She ...
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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes

Work For Humans
What the History of Germ Theory Teaches Us About Paradigm Shifts at Work | Dr. Robert Gaynes
The germ theory of disease is one of the greatest breakthroughs in human history. But it took more than 2,000 years of false starts and resistance before medicine finally recognized that germs cause disease. In his book Germ Theory, Dr. Robert Gaynes unpacks why this shift was so hard to achieve. In this episode, he and Dart explore what it teaches us about paradigm shifts today: why new ideas face such resistance, how the personalities of innovators influence acceptance, and what happens whe...
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2 months ago
1 hour 29 minutes

Work For Humans
Human-Centered AI: Designing Ethical Systems for Trust and Human Agency | Emily Yang
Emily Yang’s work sits at the intersection of AI ethics, governance, and human experience. She is an early advocate for bringing human-centered design and responsible innovation into the heart of enterprise AI, especially in HR and talent functions. For her, ethics is an activity — something we do, not just something we believe. In this episode, Dart and Emily talk about why AI feels both helpful and destabilizing, how bias and invisible harms emerge, and what it takes to preserve human agenc...
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2 months ago
58 minutes

Work For Humans
Hope Before Purpose: Creating a Work Culture Everyone Wants | Jennifer Moss
When we think about fixing burnout, most conversations start with purpose, work design, or leadership. But according to Jennifer Moss, the real starting point is hope. And not vague optimism, but cognitive hope—a measurable skill that gives people the power to set goals, find ways to reach them, and keep moving forward, even in uncertain times. In this episode, Dart and Jennifer discuss the link between hope and purpose, the warning signs of hopelessness at work, and what leaders can do to bu...
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2 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes

Work For Humans
The Magic of Code: Wonder, the Experience, and Future of Programming | Sam Arbesman
Sam Arbesman writes deep, beautiful books about the boundary between technology, knowledge, and wonder. His most recent book, The Magic of Code, is another profound exploration—this time into the wonders revealed by code. Sam describes code as “a universal force—swirling through disciplines, absorbing ideas, and connecting worlds.” In this episode, Dart and Sam talk about the experience of coding: what makes it great, when it feels arduous or magical, and how AI could change the experience. ...
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2 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Work For Humans
Work Should Be Fun, Not Just Productive | Bree Groff
Bree Groff’s new book, Today Was Fun, pushes the reset button on expectations about work. There is no reason work can’t be fun. About half of the things that make it un-fun are self-inflicted—we can just stop doing them. Take off the serious-people costume. Stop all performative work. Take a nap that is for you, not just to recharge for more work. Stop suppressing emotions. Have fun with work friends, and keep work in its place—a good part of life, but not your whole life. Bree Groff is a for...
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3 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes

Work For Humans
The System Is the Problem: Rethinking Business at the Systems Level | Sandra Waddock
Sandra Waddock has spent decades exploring the systems beneath the systems, asking questions about purpose, story, and the deeper operating logic of business. Sandra argues that the current model focused on growth, control, and short-term profit is no longer serving people or the planet. Instead of fixing surface-level symptoms, she invites us to reimagine the foundational assumptions business is built on. In this episode, Dart and Sandra talk about the myths that drive our current system, ...
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3 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes

Work For Humans
Customer Centricity: Designing Your Business Around Your Best Customers | Peter Fader
As one of the world’s leading experts on customer centricity, Peter Fader noticed that many businesses were making a critical mistake: they were treating all customers the same. Peter argues that customer centricity means focusing on the customers who matter most—those who are truly driving value for your company. His work is reshaping how businesses think about growth, loyalty, and strategy. In this episode, Dart and Peter talk about why not all customers are created equal, how to measure t...
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3 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes

Work For Humans
Time Poverty at Work: What It Costs and How to Reclaim Your Time | Ashley Whillans
Ashley Whillans has spent years studying how time, money, and workplace culture shape our well-being. As a behavioral scientist at Harvard Business School, she’s found that time poverty is more than a personal stressor—it’s a leadership challenge, an organizational blind spot, and one of the biggest barriers to well-being at work. In this episode, Dart and Ashley talk about why traditional perks miss the point, why more control over your time can matter more than a raise, and what it looks l...
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3 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes

Work For Humans
Transform Your Team: Redesigning Work for Clarity and Value | Stephanie Reuss & Victoria Stuart
Stephanie Reuss and Victoria Stuart noticed that companies were making big decisions about jobs, teams, and strategy without really knowing what people were doing. So they built Beamible, a platform that maps work at the task level. It helps organizations see what is working, what is slowing people down, and what actually creates value for the business. In this episode, Dart, Steph, and Vic talk about why visibility is the first step to meaningful change, how AI is transforming job design, an...
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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Work For Humans
The Map to Fearless Growth: Moving Beyond Fear at Work and in Life | Amon Woulfe
Most of us don’t realize how much fear shapes how we live and show up at work. But Amon Woulfe sees it clearly. As the founder of 432Hz, he has spent over a decade helping leaders understand the deeper fears that silently drive behavior, limit growth, and erode connection. In this episode, Dart and Amon explore how fear shapes leadership, why change agents often burn out, and what it takes to shift from protection to presence. They also discuss the limits of personality tests, the illusion of...
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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Work For Humans
Is Work Worth It? A Philosopher on Why We Work | Michael Cholbi
Michael Cholbi approaches work not just as a function of economics or management but as a deep philosophical question. He brings a rare lens to the topic, one that connects ancient wisdom, contemporary ethics, and the day-to-day experience of workers today. In this episode, Michael and Dart explore how work shapes us and how it might be reimagined to serve us better. From Plato and Marx to Bullshit Jobs, dignity to autonomy, they ask what makes work just, and whether companies are morally res...
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4 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Work For Humans
Modern work is haunted by an idea that began in feudal Europe. The Master Servant Doctrine gave employers the right to command and control workers while imposing a duty to provide for them. That ancient logic still shapes the modern workplace — from “at-will” employment and HR policies designed to protect companies, to benefits that bind people to their jobs. In this episode, Dart and Elizabeth explore how feudal ideas of control and obligation still structure employment today, and what it wo...