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When The Game Ends
Ben Holden
62 episodes
1 day ago
Podcast with @benholdenpxp and @mcarman16 interviewing athletes about the transition from professional sports into the everyday world #whenthegameends
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Podcast with @benholdenpxp and @mcarman16 interviewing athletes about the transition from professional sports into the everyday world #whenthegameends
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When The Game Ends
EP 4, When The Game Ends, Colby Cohen
Great episode with former NHL/AHL/NCAA/USNTDP defenseman Colby Cohen in our 4th episode of the podcast. Colby and co-host Mike Carman were teammates w/the USNTDP program, then again in the AHL with Lake Erie before Colby was traded from Colorado to Boston. Colby scored one of the biggest goals in BU Terrier hockey history, the game winner in the 2009 NCAA Championship game in Washington D.C. Colby has worked in the media side of hockey since he retired from the game, he co-hosts a daily hockey podcast and has worked for 2 NHL teams in broacasting and works with ESPN duing the NCAA Tournament, great episode with Colby, he's very open and honest about his playing career, excellent conversation! #whenthegameends #podcast
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9 months ago
51 minutes 17 seconds

When The Game Ends
EP 3, Danny DeKeyser

EP 3 When The Game Ends
We talked with former Detroit Red Wings Defenseman Danny DeKeyser, who recently joined Mike Carman & Ben Holden to discuss what this podcast is all about, the transition for pro athletes once they retire & leave the game. Danny had a decade long career with his hometown Red Wings, prior to that, he starred at Western Michigan University for the Broncos before signing as a free agent to begin his pro career with the Red Wings. He's transitioned out of pro sports and is now a coach and works in real estate in Suburban Detroit, while being a husband and dad, great episode w/Danny.
#whenthegameends #podcast #nhl #nhlalumni #redwings

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9 months ago
50 minutes 40 seconds

When The Game Ends
EP 2, When The Game Ends, Pierre-Luc Leblond

EP 2, When The Game Ends, PIerre-Luc Leblond
In this episode with former NHL/AHL/ECHL hockey player/enforcer PIerre-Luc Leblond. We discussed his career at length & his transition from pro athlete to everyday life. PL talks about adjusting to real life after his career, and how in hockey, you know the end goal and how to get better, in real life, it took some time to adjust, take a listen for the insight, great conversation with PL in this episode on his career and what he's doing now in retirement from pro hockey. #whenthegameends #podcast

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9 months ago
52 minutes 40 seconds

When The Game Ends
EP 1, When The Game Ends, Mike Carman

Our first episode of When The Game Ends, a podcast dedicated to athletes making the transition our of their sports career into everyday life. This was our first podcast, the co-hosts, Ben Holden and Mike Carman, talked about Mike's career, a career that saw Mike play for the USNTDP teams, the national junior teams in the U.S., his home state Minnesota Golden Gophers for 4 years and then 5 years in the AHL, American Hockey League, the top development league for the NHL before he retied from pro sports. This was the start of our podcast, we are continuing to build and grow.

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9 months ago
30 minutes 40 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 58 Kevin Cassese - Lehigh Lacrosse Head Coach

Great catching up and chatting with Lehigh Lacrosse Head Coach Kevin Cassese today! Kevin has been at Lehigh for 13 seasons as their head coach and he's built a solid, competitive program in the Lehigh Valley. The Mountain Hawks were off to a great start this season, 5-1, before COVID 19 hit the U.S., we talked with Kevin about some important updates, he learned of shortly before joining us today that affect the coming school year at Lehigh, we also discussed what it was like for his players when the season came to an end in March, plus, Kevin offered some great perspectives on lacrosse and sports moving forward in the climate we are living in. Kevin was a 2 time captain in his playing days at Duke, he was also part of 3 U.S. National Teams in his playing days, he discussed his best memories of wearing the Red, White and Blue, great stories and memories! Plus, we talked with Kevin about Mike Pressler, the coach he played for and later worked under as an Assistant Coach at Duke, great stuff and insight from Kevin. We also discussed some of his former Lehigh players, now playing in the pro ranks in the PLL and MLL. We also talked with Kevin about his Dad, Tom,  one of the most successful H.S. football coaches in NY state history, being on his staff at Lehigh! Bottom line, if you like lacrosse, you will love this show with Kevin Cassese, one of the great people in the great sport of lacrosse, enjoy!!

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5 years ago
45 minutes 59 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 57 - Meymo Lyons - News Veteran/Former WILX TV Managing Editor

In this episode, I catch up with a woman who had a lasting impact and impression on me and several other of my former coworkers at WILX TV - NBC 10 in Lansing, Mi! Meymo Lyons, or "Mem", as all of us knew her by, joined me to talk about the great times and group we had in the late 90's, early 2000's at WILX. Those were some great times, many of us in that newsroom were in our first jobs at the time in the broadcast field, and we could always count on Mem to steer us, and to set us straight on whatever the task at hand was! She is a news veteran, who prior to joining WILX, worked for 8 years at former Lansing, MI powerhouse radio station, WITL, she was an anchor, reporter and a great news mind in their news department, she's also done several high profile voiceovers in her career! Mem now lives in Austin, TX where she is a very proud mom and she's still telling us like it is, like she always did in Lansing!! Be prepared to be entertained and enlightened in this episode!!

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5 years ago
1 hour 33 minutes 38 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode 56: Pro Sports and College Sports Talk/Update

Hello all! We hope you are doing well and staying safe and of course, enjoying our podcast. On this episode of the No Holden Back podcast we talk about Formula 1, MotoGP, NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL, and college football. Giving you updates and what we think of what's going on in the world of sports! We also get into the age old debate, What is and what isn't a sport. A fun segment that we hope you enjoy! Thank you as always for listening/watching. Stay safe and stay healthy!

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5 years ago
1 hour 30 minutes 11 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back: Episode 55 - Steve Coon - WILX NBC 10 - Chief Photographer/Operations Manager

So much fun in this episode with Steve Coon, longtime Chief Photographer, and now Operations Manager at WILX NBC 10 in Lansing, MI!! We had some great times in the 6 years i worked at the station, this is a very entertaining episode, the stories are endless!! Steve started as a photographer at the station 2 years before i arrived, he started in 1996, while working in retail sales, and he's still going strong today!! He's one of the most talented photog's i've ever worked with in all my stops in my career, he's got a knack for knowing when to shoot and when to shoot!! Steve has covered several Final Fours, Super Bowls, Bowl Games, World Series, the Stanley Cup playoffs, and years of MSU hoops, football, baseball and hockey and much more!! We reminisced about so many tales of our travels, some better than others, LOL! Bottom line, Steve has been, and continues to be an incredible asset to the station, whether it's doing his job, or helping develop others, he's the best!! Enjoy a very funny and entertaining episode with a true pro and a great man and pro at what he does!!

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5 years ago
1 hour 14 minutes 49 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 54 - Aaron Baskerville - NBC 10 (Philadelphia) - News Reporter

Excellent time catching up and chatting with former WILX NBC 10 (Lansing, MI), coworker, Aaron Baskerville in this episode!! Aaron and I met late in 2001, he joined the news department as a general assignment reporter. Lansing was his 1st stop in what has become an award winning career as a news reporter, who knows works in the city he was born in, Philadelphia! Our time in Lansing was significant to both us, and for Aaron, he learned the ropes of becoming a talented pro in his field! In 2004, he left Lansing for Buffalo, NY where he spent 2 and 1/2 years as a reporter, from there he moved on to Chicago, IL, where he grew up, his dad Steve was a meterologist for 30 years, he retired in 2017 after 4 decades in the TV business. Aaron spent 2 and 1/2 years at CLTV, before the news network ceased operations. From Chicago, Aaron moved back to Michigan and 6 years in Kalamazoo as an anchor and reporter. When he left Kalamazoo, Aaron made the move to a top 5 market when he landed back home in Philly!! Great time catching up and hearing Aaron's story, including what it's been like for him covering news in the climate of COVID 19 and protests in our country, great conversation with a true pro & a reporter who lives for covering breaking news!!

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5 years ago
1 hour 9 minutes 52 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 53 Jeremy Ross - CBS 2 Chicago News Reporter
Excellent time chatting with former WILX NBC 10, (Lansing, MI)  coworker Jeremy Ross! We spent 2 years working together in Lansing, and had some great times!! Jeremy is a Michigan native, from suburban Detroit, he attended the University of Michigan and later, earned his Master's Degree from Medill School of Broadcasting at Northwestern University! While at the University of Michigan, he worked several Michigan hockey games as the radio and TV play by play announcer, he was there during the mid to late 90's, a great era in Michigan hockey history! His stories of interviewing and meeting legendary head coach Red Berenson are tremendous! His first job in the business was working for Leo Burnett, a major advertising agency, after that he began his journey as an award winning news reporter/journalist in Lansing at WILX, we talked about several key moments and times in his career there. From Lansing, it was off to Milwaukee, and that stop in Jeremy's career was also very instrumental in his career as well. These days he's working in Chicago and we got in depth on what it's been like working in a Top 5 market, and what it's been like throughout the COVID 19 pandemic, protests and riots, very interesting to hear Jeremy talk about what that's been like!! He's also a huge fan of dogs and sports cards, great listen with a great guy and very talented reporter!!
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5 years ago
1 hour 20 minutes 55 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 52 - Nick LaFave - WZZM TV - News Anchor - Grand Rapids, MI

Starting to do some shows/podcasts with several of my former co-workers at WILX TV in Lansing, Michigan. First up is WZZM News Anchor Nick LaFave, we spent a good part of 2004 working together on weekends. Nick has done great things in his career since then and continues to do them today!! He hails from Marquette, MI, he's a Yooper through and through. He began his broadcasting/journalism career in Montana, from there he moved on to Lansing, we had a great time working together, he held down the news anchor spot, i was the sports anchor. After several years in Lansing, Nick moved on to Duluth, MN, a job that was very instrumental in his career, he also met his wife in that stop in his career. He shared 2 outstanding stories with me about his time in Duluth, very good stories!! After Duluth, Nick moved on to Shreveport, LA for a stint in their news department. After the stop on the bayou, Nick was hired in Grand Rapids, MI at WZZM and he's done great things as their main news anchor. We discussed his role there, life in the times of COVID, his conversations with Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. We also discussed the possiblity of schools reopening here in Michigan and many other topical items regarding the year that is 2020. Last but not least, there is some hockey talk in this episode, Nick has been a hockey referee for several years, great time catching up with Nick!!!

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5 years ago
1 hour 12 minutes 43 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 51 - Jason Zone Fisher - TV Host/Reporter

In this episode, I talk with Jason Zone Fisher, longtime TV Host, Reporter, Emcee. Jason is a native of Shaker Heights, Ohio and at a young age, he got his start in show business. At just 9 years old, Jason was cast in "Conversations With My Father", a show that played at the Cleveland Playhouse. In his high school years, Jason was a 2 time Emmy nominated host of "Browns Blitz", a show on that aired on the local NBC affiliate in Cleveland. From there he attended Syracuse University and the top notch, Newhouse School of Broadcasting. He did a variety of different things while attending Syracuse before graduating and entering the professional world. His father was a longtime lawyer and eventually became LT. Governor of Ohio, so Jason had grown up around law and politics. His first project after Syracuse was a documentary on living and growing up in a political family, that documentary did very well and Jason was off and running in his career! He has been a spokesman for several big companies, including Gillette, Butterfinger, PIzza Hut, just to name a few! His story of meeting and developing a relationship with Current NBA Commissioner, Adam Silver is awesome, its a must listen part of this podcast!! Jason is also a longtime, and often suffering, Cleveland sports fan, and he shares his story of being at the 2016 NBA Finals when Lebron James led the Cavaliers to the City of Cleveland's first pro championship in 52 years, another great story!! He's also worked on "Coaster Quest", a show on rollercoasters all over the country and he's also been involved with "Chopped" on Food Network as well as many other shows and networks. Jason and I have worked together the last 2 years on the WAL, World Armwrestling League, shows for Bleacher Report/Turner, Jason is our Pit Reporter! All in all, Jason Zone Fisher is always in the "zone", great guy, who has worked hard in the business and continues to have great success!!! Enjoy!! 

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5 years ago
1 hour 27 minutes 9 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 50 - Warren Pick - Veteran TV Director/Producer
In this episode, I’m joined by veteran TV director/producer, Warren Pick. We first met back in 2012 on a lacrosse event for CBS Sports Network, since then we’ve become good friends & working colleagues. Warren grew up in NYC & New Jersey, his mother & father were both in the entertainment business, his mom was an actress, his dad an entertainment lawyer. Warren attended Ithaca College & began his directing career in local TV news in Ithaca, NY & later in Binghamton, NY. In the 1970’s, he was hired as a runner for ABC Sports, one of his first assignments was working the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid, NY. During the 1980 USA/USSR hockey game, he was standing behind Al Michaels & Ken Dryden, as they called the Miracle On Ice! He tells that story & many others from the 1980 Olympics!! Warren has worked for virtually every major TV network in his career directing sports, just about every sport in fact!! He also spent several years at MSG Network, directing the Knicks, Rangers and several other events with MSG. Warren also talked with me at length about his advice for young men & women who desire to do what he has done in sports television for over 40 years!! Had a blast talking with one of my closest friends in the business!!
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5 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 25 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 49-Father's Day Special

Today on episode 49 of the No Holden Back podcast we talk about Monster Energy Supercross and the championship battle between 450 title contenders Eli Tomac and Cooper Webb, what's new in American sports, and the WAL. Of course, we also talk Father's Day and some of the great memories and things we've learned over the years from our Father's! Happy Father's Day to all the Dad's out there!

Stay Safe and Stay Healthy!

Ben and Luke 

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5 years ago
49 minutes 36 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 48 Sports Update 6-17-20

Welcome back! It's been 3 weeks since we've recorded a new episode and we are pumped to be back! on this episode we talk about Monster Energy Supercross, Moto GP, Nascar, NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL, College Football, PLL, and Soccer as well! it's a total sports round table! We thank you for all your support and appreciate you listening and watching the No Holden Back Podcast! 

Stay healthy and Stay Safe,

Ben and Luke

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5 years ago
1 hour 50 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 47-Matt McConnell - Arizona Coyotes TV PxP Announcer
Outstanding time catching up with Matt McConnell, TV PxP Announcer for the Arizona Coyotes! He joined Fred Pletsch & I to talk about where his love for hockey comes from, his childhood, his college days at MSU, his first job in minor league hockey, his first NHL call up, his stops in the NHL, working for the Coyotes & so much more in a very entertaining episode!
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5 years ago
1 hour 13 minutes 20 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 46 Pat Ferschweiler - WMU Associate Head Coach
Great catching up with WMU Associate Head Coach Pat Fershweiler in this episode as he joined Fred Pletsch & I. We went back to Pat’s hockey roots in the state of Minnesota, his college recruitment by Minnesota Duluth & later Western Michigan, where he finished his college playing career. Plus, how he got his start in coaching, his time with the Detroit Red Wings, his return to Western Michigan , his time in pro hockey as a player, which features a great story about Gordie Howe! We also talked with Pat about the 2019-20 NCHC season, and some advice for young players and parents, great stuff from Pat!!
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5 years ago
52 minutes 15 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 45 - George Gwozdecky - Part 2
Part 2 with former Denver head coach George Gwozdecky as he joined Fred Pletsch & I. Started out w/his friendship w/ MSU basketball coach Tom Izzo & what kept him from taking over for Ron Mason at MSU. From there great conversation & discussion on the 2 national titles he led Denver to, some excellent stories on some his former players & moments from the NCAA title games. We also discussed his 2 years in the NHL w/Tampa Bay as an assistant coach. Plus, his relationship w/current Denver head coach David Carle & so much more in an entertaining segment with George!
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5 years ago
1 hour 24 minutes 58 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 44 George Gwozdecky - Part 1 of 2

Part 1 of a 2 part interview with Former Denver & Miami (OH) hockey coach George Gwozdecky as he joined Fred Pletsch and I for some great conversation and stories from his playing and coaching days. We dropped the puck talking about Valor Christian HS Hockey, George finished his 5th season coaching there earlier this year, his team won the Colorado State Title, their 1st in program history! From we talked about his hometown, Thunder Bay, Ontario, and his days as a young hockey player and growing up. We also got an incredible story of one of George's former teammates on the Thunder Bay Vulcans, Bill "Goldie" Goldthorpe, who was the inspiration for Ogie Ogilthorpe, a character in the hockey classic, "Slap Shot", one of the best stories i've ever heard in my life!!! From there we shifted to a conversation George had with his college coach at Wisconsin, the late, great, Badger Bob Johnson, that had so much to do with George becoming a coach! We also talked about another conversation with the late, great, Ron Mason, who came calling to offer George a job after he had won the NAIA National Title at Wisconsin River-Falls in 1983, George originally told Mason "No", on the job offer, another classic story! We also talked with George about his days as the head coach at Miami (OH) and one special season that is to this day, one of the best he ever spent behind a bench coaching! Part 2 with George is coming soon, enjoy Part 1, it's outstanding!!

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5 years ago
33 minutes 40 seconds

When The Game Ends
No Holden Back Episode: 43 Neil Koepke - Veteran College Hockey Writer

Excellent time chatting with longtime & veteran college hockey writer Neil Koepke in this episode! Neil joined Fred Pletsch and I to talk about several topics, great listen for the college hockey fan or hockey fan in general with Neil, who has nearly 50 years of covering the sport! We started out talking about his younger years as a goalie, growing up in Cleveland, going to Ohio State as a goalie for 1 year, there he played for Harry Neale, who later in his career, spent several years as the top analyst for "Hockey Night in Canada", Neale was a founding force in Ohio State's hockey program. Later in his college years Neil transferred to the University of Detroit, it was there he started to find his way a journalist/writer covering hockey. Neil spent several years on the University of Michigan hockey beat before he started on the beat of Michigan State hockey in the mid 80's, he's still on the beat today covering Spartan hockey and college hockey! We talked about some his fondest memories of covering the Spartans, the late, great Ron Mason, his top players and moments in Spartan hockey history, and so much more in this entertaining episode!!

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5 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 23 seconds

When The Game Ends
Podcast with @benholdenpxp and @mcarman16 interviewing athletes about the transition from professional sports into the everyday world #whenthegameends