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Waking Up to Narcissism
Tony Overbay LMFT
142 episodes
2 weeks ago
"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!
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"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!
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Mental Health
Education,
Self-Improvement,
Health & Fitness
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Waking Up to Narcissism
Learning to Life Without Training Wheels: Exploring Faith, Identity, and Emotional Maturity
Have you ever found yourself wondering, How can someone possibly believe that? Or maybe you've questioned your own beliefs after bumping up against someone else's certainty? You're not alo...
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 7 minutes 26 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Pushed to the Breaking Point: Understanding 'Reactive Abuse' vs. ‘Reactive Response’ in Narcissistic Relationships
Have you ever found yourself behaving in ways you never thought possible—slamming doors, raising your voice, or saying hurtful things—after months or years of emotional manipulation? In today's powerful episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," we explore the crucial distinction between true abuse and what's often mislabeled as "reactive abuse." Through compelling real-life scenarios and expert analysis, you'll discover why these reactions don't make you "just as bad" and how pathologically kind people often find themselves paired with emotionally immature partners in breakup-resistant relationships.What if the shame you feel about your reactions is actually keeping you trapped in harmful dynamics? Join us as we unpack how to recognize the difference between healthy kindness and self-erasure, identify patterns of emotional immaturity, and reclaim your narrative from those who benefit from your self-doubt. This episode offers not just understanding, but a transformative path forward for anyone who's ever looked in the mirror and wondered, "Have I become the very thing I feared?"00:00 Introduction and Current Events00:14 Emotional Immaturity in Everyday Life03:07 Defining Emotional Maturity04:46 The Persistence of Emotional Immaturity07:28 Breaking the Cycle of Emotional Immaturity09:38 A Real-Life Scenario: Sarah and Mike13:58 Understanding Reactive Response26:25 Pathological Kindness vs. Emotional Immaturity35:42 Understanding Emotionally Immature Behaviors36:22 The Human Magnet Syndrome37:21 Codependency and Reactive Responses38:51 Examples of Reactive Responses46:10 The Cycle Leading to Reactive Responses54:24 Differentiation and Balance58:56 Reframing Reactive Responses01:03:38 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes 26 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Healing by a Thousand Stitches - Growth Through Narcissistic or Emotionally Immature Relationships
In this episode of The Virtual Couch Presents: Waking Up to Narcissism, host Tony Overbay explores the transformative journey of healing from relationships with emotionally immature or narcissistic partners. With the popularity of the 'Death by a Thousand Cuts' series, Tony introduces a new perspective—'Growth by a Thousand Stitches.' The episode features real stories from listeners who have found strength and self-worth through small, impactful victories. Tony delves into various categories such as reclaiming simple joys, embracing self-care, setting healthy boundaries, and rediscovering personal identity. This episode is filled with hope, tangible steps towards healing, and inspiring testimonials that underscore the power of self-love and personal growth. Subscribe, share, and join Tony and his community on this journey of healing and transformation.00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:21 The Impact of 'Death by a Thousand Cuts'05:08 Understanding Switzerland Friends09:15 The Healing Journey Begins14:51 Reclaiming Simple Joys16:57 Physical and Emotional Self-Care18:52 Creating Safe Spaces20:44 Building New Relationships21:55 The Power of Boundaries23:31 Rediscovering Identity24:19 Finding Joy in Forbidden Activities26:12 Embracing Imperfection27:14 Processing Emotions28:57 Creating New Traditions29:30 Building Self-Trust32:32 Learning to Take Up Space33:26 Embracing Spiritual and Personal Growth33:55 Finding Strength in Community35:27 Creating New Measures of Success36:17 Embracing Self-Care Without Guilt38:57 Setting Healthy Boundaries40:01 Finding Joy in the Present40:27 Conclusion: The Journey of HealingIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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1 month ago
42 minutes 47 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
The Evolutionary Superpower of Highly Sensitive People: How HSP Differs from Autism (and Does it Matter?)
Have you ever been told you're 'too sensitive' or that you need to ‘get over it,’ or ‘don’t worry about it,’ but that only causes you to worry more, or feel less connected to others, or even yourself? Or have you been told that your sensitivity must mean you're on the autism spectrum? Or are you on the autisim spectrum and can you also identify with many of the characteristics of Highly Sensitive People? With over 2.2 million views and hundreds of comments on recent viral videos about Highly Sensitive People (HSPs), it's clear this topic strikes a nerve. Drawing from his experience working with both HSPs and individuals with ASD, Tony dives deep into why these distinct experiences are often confused - and why understanding the difference isn't just interesting, it's essential for creating a more empathetic world.Through viral video statistics, personal anecdotes, and real-world examples, he breaks down how HSPs (representing 15-20% of the population) and individuals with ASD navigate life differently. From sensory processing to social dynamics, discover why that deep emotional processing might actually be an evolutionary advantage rather than a disorder. Along the way, the discussion explores how ADHD and NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) intersect with these experiences.This episode provides crucial insights into recognizing, understanding, and supporting both HSPs and individuals with ASD. Whether questioning your own experiences or trying to better understand someone else's, listeners will find the clarity and validation they've been seeking. Perfect for anyone who's ever felt misunderstood about their sensitivity or confused about where they fit in the neurodiversity spectrum. Join Tony for an eye-opening discussion that might just change how you see yourself - or someone you love."00:00 Welcome and Introduction00:30 The Viral Video on Highly Sensitive People01:04 Behind the Scenes: Social Media Stats02:05 Addressing Misconceptions and Personal Insights03:26 A Personal Anecdote: The Butterfly Bandage04:12 Responding to Drive-By Comments04:29 Understanding Highly Sensitive People (HSP) vs Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD)07:27 Story Time: Sarah and Michael's Interaction18:57 The Evolutionary Purpose of High Sensitivity21:39 Traits and Characteristics of Highly Sensitive People29:17 Challenges Faced by Highly Sensitive People33:59 The Importance of Curiosity and Understanding35:30 Understanding Human Uniqueness36:22 Fascinating Facts About Human Preferences37:22 The Complexity of Sensitivity
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2 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes 20 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Trisha Jamison, Host of the Q&A Files Podcast on Overcoming Emotional Immaturity for Better Relationships
Have you ever tried selling a grand piano on Facebook Marketplace? Our latest episode of the Q&A Files kicks off with some personal tales of downsizing and the hilarious adventures that come with it. Join us as Trisha Jamison, a board-certified functional nutritionist, and Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist and seasoned podcaster from The Virtual Couch, and Waking Up To Narcissism, discuss these issues for Tony's podcast, The Virtual Couch. Trisha and Tony discuss emotional immaturity and narcissistic traits and offer a path to healthier relationships. We share our own journeys of growth and healing to show how. This episode delves into the challenges of navigating emotionally complex relationships and the power of validation. Whether dealing with resistance from a partner or unlocking the transformative potential of self-awareness, our candid discussions aim to provide fresh perspectives and practical strategies for listeners who might be walking similar paths.Join us next time as we discuss how to keep your relationships fresh by talking to a newlywed couple who are just as cute as can be! Follow the Q&A Files Podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/1k2Oh4rY9VCp1tVeu14dxk?si=a39537613900475b (https://open.spotify.com/show/1k2Oh4rY9VCp1tVeu14dxk?si=a39537613900475b) Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-q-a-files/id1730736061 or wherever you listen to podcasts. 
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2 months ago
51 minutes 36 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Finding Courage Through Chaos: Ashlynn's Path from Betrayal to Empowerment
Tony welcomes Ashlynn Allen to the podcast. Ashlynn shares her journey from fitness influencer to betrayal trauma survivor to empowerment coach and highlights the strength of facing life’s...
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2 months ago
47 minutes 36 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Twas the Season of Emotional Strain: Merry Narcissistic Christmas and Happy Emotionally Immature New Year!
Tony explores the complex dynamics of narcissism and emotional immaturity in a special “Holiday Edition” of the “Death By a Thousand Cuts” series. Through stories shared by listeners, Tony delves into how such behaviors can overshadow festive occasions, creating a lingering emotional toll. He also highlights the importance of awareness and growth, encouraging listeners to participate in healthier, more fulfilling holiday traditions. Featuring a unique narrative inspired by 'Twas the Night Before Christmas,' written by Claude AI, this episode sheds light on the subtleties of narcissistic manipulation and control during what are typically hoped to be seen as celebratory times.00:00 A Twisted Christmas Tale02:36 Introduction and Welcome02:52 Announcements and Updates04:19 Listener Stories: Holiday Struggles06:39 Story 1: Control and Manipulation12:12 Story 2: The Christmas Face16:34 Story 3: The Dream Trip Conflict20:35 Story 4: Missing Milestones27:17 Story 5: Passive Aggressive Holidays34:22 Story 6: Inappropriate Gifts36:21 Reflections and Closing ThoughtsFind more from Tony Overbay:Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/virtualcouchTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@virtualcouch Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/virtual.couch/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tonyoverbaylmft/Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-virtual-couch/id1275153998Website: https://www.tonyoverbay.com/  Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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4 months ago
44 minutes 1 second

Waking Up to Narcissism
BONUS Virtual Couch - The Balancing Act: Self-Esteem vs. Self-Compassion
Are you tired of the endless pursuit of perfection? Do you question why your self-esteem seems more tied to others' opinions than your own self-worth? In this transformative episode, Tony explores the crucial difference between self-esteem and self-compassion, drawing from Dr. Kristin Neff's groundbreaking research. Through personal experiences and scientific insights, Tony challenges our cultural obsession with self-esteem, revealing why the constant pressure to be "above average" creates an impossible and unhealthy standard for well-being.Learn how self-compassion offers a more sustainable path to genuine self-acceptance through its three core components: self-kindness, common humanity, and mindfulness. Tony delves into the fascinating neuroscience behind mindfulness practices, explaining how they physically rewire our brains for greater emotional regulation and self-awareness. Drawing from Viktor Frankl's profound insights as a Holocaust survivor and author of "Man's Search for Meaning," Tony illustrates how finding meaning in our struggles can transform our relationship with ourselves and others.This episode provides both the scientific framework and practical tools needed to develop self-compassion in daily life. Whether you struggle with perfectionism, find yourself caught in comparison traps, or simply want to develop a more stable sense of self-worth, you'll discover why self-compassion offers all the benefits of high self-esteem without its potential downsides. Join Tony as he shares actionable strategies for transforming your relationship with yourself and finding peace in the simple truth that you're not broken - you're human.00:00 Introduction and Personal Story01:46 The Therapist's Dilemma: Hope vs. Reality04:33 Exploring Self-Esteem and Self-Compassion07:01 The Impact of Comparison and External Validation11:02 Value-Based Goal Setting and Radical Acceptance13:08 Parental Support and Secure Attachment15:25 Listener Insights on Self-Esteem16:32 Embracing Self-Compassion23:22 Seeking Validation and Self-Compassion24:16 Confessions of an Ultramarathoner26:18 Accepting Mediocrity in Running29:19 The Power of Self-Compassion33:25 Mindfulness and Self-Kindness35:19 A Personal Podcasting Challenge39:21 Viktor Frankl's Wisdom on Meaning45:23 The Journey of Self-Compassion
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4 months ago
47 minutes 20 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
UPDATED Death By a Thousand Cuts Ocho (8) - Healing, Growing, and Thriving Through Emotional Wounds
Tony Overbay, LMFT, explores how seemingly minor slights and manipulations in relationships can accumulate to cause significant emotional harm. Welcome to the 8th installment of Waking Up to Narcissism’s “Death by 1,000 Cuts” series. In this episode, Tony delves deep into the subtle yet severe world of emotional abuse. Whether you're dealing with a narcissistic partner, emotionally immature family members, or challenging work colleagues, this episode is full of relatable stories and practical advice to help you understand and navigate these treacherous waters. Tony shares listener-submitted poems and limericks that perfectly capture the pain and frustration of enduring countless small but stinging slights. He also shares personal anecdotes and listener stories to illustrate how these seemingly minor offenses can pile up, causing significant emotional damage over time. Discover invaluable strategies for maintaining your emotional health, such as self-compassion, differentiating yourself emotionally, and setting healthy boundaries. You'll also learn the importance of documenting behavior patterns and trusting your gut feelings to reclaim your reality and foster your healing journey.Find more from Tony Overbay:TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@virtualcouchInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/virtual.couch/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tonyoverbaylmft/Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-virtual-couch/id1275153998Website: https://www.tonyoverbay.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/virtualcouchStream Riley Hope's song 'Not My Job' and follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/musicbyrileyhope/ 00:00 Deathbycuts807:13 Introduction and Acknowledgements08:06 Listener Contributions: Poems and Limericks09:13 Understanding Emotional Cuts in Relationships09:33 Host Introduction and Podcast Overview11:36 The Free Throw Analogy: Preparation vs. Real Life16:44 Applying Relationship Skills in Real Life24:30 Listener Stories: Death by a Thousand Cuts31:21 Roommate Frustrations31:46 Financial Manipulation32:21 Co-Parenting Conflicts32:55 Family Event Disruptions33:43 Emotional Immaturity in Relationships42:03 Professional Sabotage45:00 Phone Surveillance47:08 Achievement Diminishment48:07 Weaponized Routines48:45 Financial Manipulation Revisited50:30 Co-Parenting Undermining51:09 Recognizing Patterns of Control54:16 The Importance of Self-Compassion
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4 months ago
58 minutes 23 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Your Pain, Their Power: How Narcissists Feed on Relationships
Ever wonder why a narcissist seems to feed off your emotional pain? Do you find yourself constantly trying to prove your worth in relationships while the other person maintains the upper hand? Tony Overbay, LMFT, discusses the complexities of narcissistic relationships and emotional immaturity. Tony explores concepts like the false self, the one-up, one-down dynamic, and antagonistic attachment styles in depth. He uncovers how narcissistic traits manifest in relationships, causing deep emotional trauma and affecting whole families. Learn about the destructive patterns of predation, competition, and parasitism in narcissistic behavior from the article “Understanding the Narcissists Antagonisitic Attachment Style” by Julie Hall, creator of “The Narcissist Family Files” https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissist-in-your-life/202107/understanding-the-narcissists-antagonistic-attachment-style (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-narcissist-in-your-life/202107/understanding-the-narcissists-antagonistic-attachment-style) Tony shares insights on reclaiming your sense of self by recognizing these unhealthy dynamics. Special thanks to Riley Hope for her song 'Not My Job,' which serves as the show's anthem. You find Riley Hope's "Not My Job" streaming information here: https://linktr.ee/rileyhopematlock (https://linktr.ee/rileyhopematlock?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYzarlAmutQXlBR1VlrM3k2lH0iDyAN1nIGXsfSaJXIhORFAWo45BVTwEs_aem_ORrixL2BCaZqk3lFhpl-wQ)00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:43 Listener's Question on Narcissism01:39 Understanding Narcissistic Behavior04:15 Exploring Narcissistic Relationships05:26 Antagonistic Attachment Style15:23 One-Up, One-Down Dynamics18:56 Real-Life Examples of Narcissistic Patterns24:17 Introduction to Human Attachment24:42 Secure vs. Antagonistic Attachment25:55 Predatory Relationships29:57 Narcissistic Competition33:18 Parasitic Dynamics33:49 Coercion and Control40:18 The Mask of Narcissism42:57 The Ripple Effect of Narcissistic Abuse45:02 Empowerment and Healing47:54 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
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5 months ago
51 minutes 31 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
What Do You Stand For? From People-Pleasing to Self-Discovery: A Journey of Character and Integrity
Are you truly living in alignment with your values, or do the expectations of others shape you? How do you begin to define your own character when emotional immaturity and narcissism are at play in your relationships? In this episode, we dive deep into what it means to build a sense of character and integrity—especially for those who may have spent years putting others’ needs above their own. Through stories, reflection, and therapeutic insight, we’ll explore how a pathologically kind person can break free from people-pleasing patterns and begin to understand their true values and beliefs. Discover how character is not only about the values you hold but also what you’re willing to tolerate or excuse in yourself and others. We’ll unpack David Schnarch’s Four Points of Balance to guide you in building a strong, flexible sense of self, showing how true integrity is about standing steady in your own identity, even when external pressures try to sway you. Join us to learn how you can move beyond external validation, live from your core, and start showing up as your authentic self in all your relationships.You find Riley Hope's "Not My Job" streaming information here: https://linktr.ee/rileyhopematlock (https://linktr.ee/rileyhopematlock?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYzarlAmutQXlBR1VlrM3k2lH0iDyAN1nIGXsfSaJXIhORFAWo45BVTwEs_aem_ORrixL2BCaZqk3lFhpl-wQ)00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:17 Listener Engagement and Social Media01:13 Riley Hope's Anthem01:38 Evander's Story Begins02:32 The Social Club Dilemma04:02 Sam's Concerns and Evander's Changes06:35 Tony's Personal Reflection11:48 Understanding Integrity and Character17:51 Tom and Jerry: A Case Study29:10 Navigating Relationships with Integrity34:53 Navigating Integrity and Character in Relationships35:18 Challenges for the Pathologically Kind Person37:47 Understanding Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism46:12 Pat and Chris: Real-Life Scenarios53:31 Breaking Free: Strategies for Pat01:01:31 Constructing the Crucible for Personal Growth01:08:46 Final Thoughts on Integrity and Self-Discovery
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5 months ago
1 hour 14 minutes 52 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Navigating Societal Expectations, Faith Crisis and Personal Growth - the Allegory “Off the Beaten Path”
Tony Overbay, LMFT explores themes of faith journeys, parental expectations, communication, differentiation, and self-discovery through an allegorical story titled 'Off the Beaten Path: Finding Love and Self in a World of Conformity.' The narrative follows a young man named Ansel, who grapples with societal expectations, familial pressures, and his journey toward self-acceptance. Through meaningful encounters and introspection, Ansel learns to embrace his individuality amidst traditional, religious, and cultural norms. This episode also highlights the importance of personal integrity the challenges of navigating faith and family systems, and encourages listeners to explore their unique talents and values. Tony invites the audience to share their stories and questions about their own faith and family journeys for future episodes.00:00 Welcome and Introduction01:17 “Not My Job” song by: Riley Hope02:48 The Power of Writing and Poetry05:26 Exploring Allegories06:44 Off the Beaten Path: Ansul's Journey Begins12:14 Ansul's Struggles and Self-Discovery16:17 Meeting Maris: A New Connection17:52 Seeking Guidance: Ansul's Dilemma18:31 Ansul's Realization and Self-Acceptance19:00 Building a Relationship with Maris20:42 Themes of the Allegory: Individuality vs. Conformity22:32 Exploring Faith and Doubt22:53 Coming of Age and Self-Discovery23:30 Truth, Knowledge, and Intergenerational Expectations25:34 Curiosity, Love, and Acceptance26:38 Personal Growth Through Discomfort27:19 Diversity of Thought and Self-Acceptance29:24 Navigating Difficult Journeys of Faith and Family31:00 Encouragement for Personal Growth and Authenticity33:02 Conclusion and Call to ActionIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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6 months ago
35 minutes 7 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
When Advice Goes Wrong: The Impact of Inaccurate Guidance in Narcissistic Relationship
Tony Overbay, LMFT, discusses the potentially harmful effects of an article titled “What Is Disarming A Narcissist? 12 Simple Ways To Do So” (https://tinyurl.com/2u8d7sjb (https://tinyurl.com/2u8d7sjb)) that oversimplifies interactions with narcissists. He distinguishes between Narcissistic Personality Disorder and the broader spectrum of emotional immaturity, emphasizing the small percentage of diagnosed cases of narcissistic personality disorder. Tony critiques the casual and inflated use of the term 'narcissist' and clarifies that real narcissism and emotional immaturity come with significant implications in relationships. He breaks down the common traits of emotional immaturity, such as anger management issues and lack of accountability, and stresses the need to understand one's emotional maturity level. Tony also passionately refutes a technique involving empathy as a means to reach narcissists, highlighting its ineffectiveness and potential harm. This episode provides invaluable insights into protecting oneself from narcissistic abuse, the importance of setting healthy boundaries, and the journey toward emotional growth.00:00 Introduction to Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity01:44 Understanding Emotional Immaturity05:49 The Spectrum of Emotional Maturity06:55 A Personal Anecdote on Emotional Maturity11:07 Exploring Empathy and Narcissism15:45 Critique of Simplistic Solutions for Narcissism18:52 The Complexity of Narcissistic Relationships22:55 Ineffective Communication Strategies with Narcissists25:42 Understanding Narcissistic Supply27:03 Disarming a Narcissist: Tips and Challenges29:39 The Complexity of Empathy with Narcissists33:57 The Path to Differentiation and Self-Care46:54 Concluding Thoughts on NarcissismIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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6 months ago
49 minutes 5 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Understanding the "Attack Surface" in Narcissistic /Emotionally Immature Relationships (When Vulnerability Goes Bad!)
Have you ever opened up to someone, only to have your vulnerability used against you? In this episode of Waking Up to Narcissism, we introduce the concept of the “attack surface”—that uncomfortable dynamic where emotionally immature or narcissistic partners turn your honesty into their weapon of control. We’ll also explore how this need for control originates from emotional immaturity, dive into the origin story of our deep-seated fear of abandonment, and discuss practical ways to develop your emotional maturity. From separating observations from judgments to the 4 Points of Balance in differentiation, this episode offers tools to help you confront unresolved personal issues in relationships with integrity and create healthier, more connected interactions.Are you in the mental health profession and are curious about using AI (artificial intelligence) notes? Check out Berries, the notes Tony described in today's episode. Click here https://berries.icu/?code=4952 (https://igafnl.com/click?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fberries.icu%2F%3Fcode%3D4952&dID=1727268659955&hashId=22b4405666b1958ec65dad9a9090847193a1ac3ebdae8557d1a08a8ed84ee86d87a658&linkName=https://berries.icu/?code=4952) Or use code Tony50 when you sign up to get $50 off your first month of Berries revolutionary AI, HIPPA-compliant mental health notes. If you are interested in seeing an example of a note, email tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com.00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:18 Speaking Engagements and Personal Anecdotes03:13 The Concept of Attack Surface11:36 Real-Life Example: Alex and Taylor15:03 Understanding Emotional Immaturity22:39 Control as a Defense Mechanism26:57 Origins of Fear and Emotional Abandonment28:02 Example Scenario: Jamie and Sam29:09 Sam's Fear and Defensive Reactions31:00 The Impact of Emotional Immaturity38:21 Observations vs. Judgments42:08 Developing Emotional Maturity45:22 The Four Points of Balance49:55 Confronting Personal Issues with IntegrityIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, HTTP:www.tonyoverbay.com
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6 months ago
52 minutes 55 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
How Much Gaslighting Does a Gaslighter Gaslight if a Gaslighter Doesn’t Know They Gaslight? - Part 2
Have you ever felt like you're losing your grip on reality in a relationship? Does your partner's behavior leave you constantly second-guessing yourself? You might be experiencing gaslighting, a form of emotional manipulation that can shake the very foundations of your self-perception. In part 2 of “Gaslighting’s Greatest Hits: The Top Lies You Believed About Yourself”, we dive deep into the murky waters of gaslighting, exploring everything from unintentional mind games to deliberate, narcissistic abuse. Tony unpacks real-life examples of gaslighting in action, decodes the tactics of emotional immaturity, and sheds light on the narcissistic traits that fuel this behavior. You'll learn how to spot the signs of gaslighting, understand its impact on your psyche, and discover strategies to break free from its grip. Whether you're dealing with a 'nice guy' trapped in a cycle of silent suffering or navigating a relationship with an emotionally immature partner, this episode offers invaluable insights and practical advice. 00:00 Introduction and Gaslighting Jokes00:28 Welcome to Episode 12000:36 Recap of Previous Gaslighting Episode02:08 Introduction to Gaslighting Basics02:31 Understanding Emotional Immaturity05:26 Types of Gaslighting05:45 Unaware Gaslighting16:40 Feeling Like Something's Off17:15 Marker20:15 Knowing It's Wrong but Not Seriously Harmful25:13 Gaslighting Tactics Unveiled25:44 Emma's Story: A Case of Workplace Gaslighting28:30 The Nice Guy Syndrome: Tom's Struggle36:45 The Abusive Partner: Jack and Diane38:34 Projection: A Deep Dive42:03 Narcissistic Double Standards45:45 Recognizing and Reclaiming Your LifeIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com (https://www.tonyoverbay.com/)
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7 months ago
49 minutes 28 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Pathological Kindness: When Caring, Trying, and Empathizing Too Much Can Be Bad For Your Health
Do you find yourself constantly putting others' needs before your own? Have you ever wondered if being "too kind" could actually be harmful to your relationships and well-being? In today’s crossover episode - Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist, explores the complex concept of pathological kindness in relationships. Through a listener's letter from 'Cleo,' Tony delves into the challenges faced by those who prioritize others' needs to their detriment, often rooted in childhood experiences of being the family peacemaker. Cleo's story highlights issues with her emotionally inconsistent partner, Ray, unveiling the struggles of living with someone emotionally immature or narcissistic. Tony discusses recognizing these patterns, including the role of cognitive dissonance and trauma bonding in maintaining unhealthy relationships. He explores how highly sensitive people (HSPs) may be particularly vulnerable to these dynamics. The episode emphasizes the importance of developing a stable core identity, setting boundaries, and balancing kindness with self-care. Tony also touches on the challenges of breaking free from intermittent reinforcement in relationships and recognizing and trusting one's own perceptions. He stresses the role of therapy and self-awareness in breaking free from unhealthy cycles and fostering emotionally mature relationships while also offering hope to those who recognize themselves as the emotionally immature partner and want to change.00:00 Introduction and Podcast Promotion01:19 Introducing Cleo's Story03:16 Cleo's Relationship Struggles10:38 Understanding Pathological Kindness16:28 The Impact of Pathological Kindness21:36 Balancing Kindness and Self-Care25:09 Exploring Self-Reliance and Its Pitfalls25:24 The Dual Nature of Optimism25:40 Understanding Humility and Self-Deprecation26:26 The Complexities of Honesty27:09 Patience vs. Passivity27:24 Competence and Arrogance28:00 Cleo's Relationship with Ray29:04 The Struggle of Highly Sensitive People29:48 The Challenge of Leaving Toxic Relationships33:23 The Cognitive Dissonance and Trauma Bonding45:04 The Importance of Self-Care and Boundaries46:03 Encouragement for Personal GrowthIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.
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7 months ago
49 minutes 15 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Emotional Survival Tips: Responding to Crisis in Narcissistic Relationships
Tony Overbay, LMFT, delivers an emergency bonus episode addressing a heartfelt listener email. The episode discusses cognitive dissonance, gaslighting, emotional abuse, scapegoating, and trauma bonding often experienced in relationships with narcissists. Tony breaks down the listener's experiences, offering insight into their struggles, including emotional manipulations and prolonged emotional trauma. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing these abusive patterns, seeking help from therapists specializing in narcissistic abuse, and prioritizing self-care and self-compassion. The episode revisits key concepts like whole object relations, object constancy, and cognitive dissonance, encouraging listeners to strive for emotional intelligence and balanced relationships.00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:21 Emergency Bonus Episode Announcement01:14 Reading and Analyzing a Listener's Email04:25 Understanding Gaslighting and Emotional Abuse12:08 Cognitive Dissonance in Relationships16:57 Whole Object Relations and Object Constancy21:10 Understanding Cognitive Dissonance21:59 Balancing Good and Bad in Relationships23:11 Empowerment Through Clarity24:36 Navigating Emotional Trauma25:49 The Narcissist's Manipulative Tactics28:20 Therapy and Emotional Manipulation31:21 Breaking Free from Trauma Bonds33:58 Self-Reflection and Sanity39:03 Seeking Help and Moving ForwardIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com (https://www.tonyoverbay.com/)
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7 months ago
41 minutes 30 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Gaslighting's Greatest Hits: The Top Lies You Believed About Yourself
Have you ever felt like you were constantly walking on eggshells, desperately trying to prove your worth in a relationship, only to realize later you were never the problem to begin with? ...
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8 months ago
50 minutes 30 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Do Healthy Relationships Even Exist? A Journey Through Narcissism, Nice Guy Syndrome, Emotional Immaturity, and…MAGIC!
Have you ever wondered, during the 'waking up' process—whether to your own emotional immaturity or to the narcissistic traits in a partner—'What does a healthy relationship even look like?' Tony Overbay, LMFT, explores the subtle (and not-so-subtle) differences between narcissists, the emotionally immature, and those with 'nice guy syndrome.' He explains the need to understand and embrace complex emotions and introduces the MAGIC Connection, a powerful framework for understanding and cultivating healthy relationships. Whether you're navigating a problematic partnership, questioning your own behaviors, or simply curious about what makes relationships tick, this episode serves as a roadmap to healthier connections. It decodes complex personality patterns and illuminates the path to the kind of relationship you deserve. Get ready to distinguish between the unicorns and the chameleons in your life and learn what real relationship magic looks like!00:00 A Pie in the Face: Dreams vs. Reality01:44 The Interview Experience: Expectations vs. Reality03:36 Welcome to Waking Up the Narcissism05:30 Understanding Emotional Immaturity and Narcissism09:00 Confabulation and Narcissistic Gaslighting14:10 Navigating Relationships with Emotional Maturity30:18 The Magic Connection: Building Healthy Relationships31:36 Reintroducing Magic Mike31:53 Navigating the City Together32:15 Mike's Calm Problem Solving33:02 Appreciating Teamwork34:15 Understanding Nice Guy Syndrome35:45 Emotional Immaturity vs. Narcissism38:59 Financial Struggles in Relationships43:43 Developing Self-Regulation Skills50:38 Complex Emotions and Whole Object Relations01:01:05 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsIf you are interested in joining Tony's private Facebook group for women in narcissistic or emotionally immature relationships of any type, please reach out to him at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.comIf you are a man interested in joining Tony's "Emotional Architects" group to learn how to better navigate your relationship with a narcissistic or emotionally immature partner or learn how to become more emotionally mature yourself, please reach out to Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com or through the form on the website, https://www.tonyoverbay.com
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8 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 59 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
Explaining the “False Self,” aka Why Good People Get Trapped In Bad Relationships
Have you ever found yourself trapped in a toxic relationship, unable to break free despite knowing it's unhealthy? You're not alone. In this gripping episode, Tony Overbay, LMFT, unravels the psychological maze of destructive love.Journey with Tony as he introduces the concept of the "false self" - the masks we wear to fit in. But what happens when someone never develops their own mask, instead shape-shifting to meet others' expectations? Through the captivating story of Farrah and Gil, Tony illuminates why smart, capable people get stuck in cycles of toxic love.Dive deep into the world of emotional immaturity, narcissistic personality disorder, and the powerful grip of intermittent reinforcement and trauma bonds. Uncover the mysteries of whole object relations, object constancy, and identity diffusion - concepts that explain baffling relationship behaviors.Whether trying to understand your relationship patterns or supporting a loved one, this episode is a must-listen. Tony offers profound insights and practical tools to break free from the clutches of toxic love and pave the way for healthier connections.Prepare to be enlightened, challenged, and empowered. Your journey to relationship wisdom starts here!00:00 Introduction: A True Story of Heartbreak00:16 Farrah's Emotional Turmoil00:33 Gil's New Relationship and Farrah's Struggle01:18 The Urge to Reach Out01:52 Seeking Closure and Self-Blame02:24 A Desperate Call to Gil03:03 Understanding Toxic Relationships04:43 The Concept of the False Self12:03 Emotional Immaturity and Its Impact19:28 Narcissistic Personality Disorder vs. Emotional Immaturity29:11 Intermittent Reinforcement: The Psychology Behind Toxic Bonds30:03 The Obsession of Random Rewards30:40 Intermittent Reinforcement in Abusive Relationships31:08 The Power of Intermittent Reinforcement32:50 Recognizing Trauma Bonds35:34 Emotional Whiplash and Inconsistent Affection40:26 Identity Diffusion and Emotional Immaturity50:23 Whole Object Relations and Object Constancy53:04 Wrapping Up: Understanding Emotional Immaturity
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9 months ago
56 minutes 46 seconds

Waking Up to Narcissism
"Waking Up to Narcissism" is a podcast hosted by Tony Overbay, LMFT, host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast, dedicated to helping individuals recognize and navigate narcissistic traits and tendencies in their relationships and within themselves. With a focus on emotional immaturity versus narcissism, Tony provides tools and guidance for personal growth and managing relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature individuals, even if that individual is you!