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Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
DPandMcGhee
135 episodes
2 days ago
Two sports marketing insiders, David Paro and Tim McGhee, bring you a fresh take on the sports business — often irreverent, sometimes cynical, and occasionally serious. From their years leading both agencies and client teams, they break down today’s biggest industry stories and share lessons learned along the way. Joined by top voices from the sports marketing world, DP & McGhee help you see the game behind the game. You’ll laugh, learn, and sometimes just say, “Wait, What?”
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Two sports marketing insiders, David Paro and Tim McGhee, bring you a fresh take on the sports business — often irreverent, sometimes cynical, and occasionally serious. From their years leading both agencies and client teams, they break down today’s biggest industry stories and share lessons learned along the way. Joined by top voices from the sports marketing world, DP & McGhee help you see the game behind the game. You’ll laugh, learn, and sometimes just say, “Wait, What?”
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Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲 𝗧𝗶𝗺𝗲! 𝘖𝘶𝘳 𝘛𝘰𝘱 10 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘔𝘰𝘷𝘪𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘈𝘭𝘭 𝘛𝘪𝘮𝘦

𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟭𝟯𝟰 | David and Tim are in full nostalgia mode this week as they count down their 𝗳𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝘀𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀 𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲. From classics to cult favorites, there’s some overlap, plenty of surprises, and a few shocking omissions — you’ll have to tune in to hear which films made their lists.

In between cinematic debates, the guys dive into some of the biggest stories in sports business this week:

⚾ 𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗱 𝗦𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗪𝗿𝗮𝗽-𝗨𝗽: A championship that delivered both on the field and in the ratings — why this one was a win for MLB.🏁 𝗡𝗔𝗦𝗖𝗔𝗥 𝗚𝗹𝗼𝗿𝘆: Kyle Larson clinches his second Cup Series title, capping an extraordinary season, and denying Denny Hamlin is much-coveted championship.

🏈 𝗖𝗼𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗹: Another week, another firing — this time Auburn parts ways with Hugh Freeze.

⛳𝗟𝗜𝗩 𝗚𝗼𝗹𝗳 𝗨𝗽𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀: New developments from the still-upstart tour and what it means for golf’s future.

🏀 𝗛𝗮𝘄𝗸𝘀 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲: An Atlanta Hawks executive accused of embezzlement.

📺 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗖𝗹𝗮𝘀𝗵: David shares his personal stake in the Disney vs. YouTube TV dispute, with insights on how these standoffs impact fans and networks alike.

🎬 Whether you’re a movie buff or a sportsbiz junkie, this episode is a fun mix of nostalgia, news, and no-holds-barred opinions from DP & McGhee.

Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business. 𝙒𝙖𝙞𝙩, 𝙒𝙝𝙖𝙩?

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48 minutes 11 seconds

Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
𝗕𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗢𝗻 𝗢𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲𝗹𝘃𝗲𝘀: 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘦𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩

David and Tim dive deep into the NBA betting scandal that’s sending shockwaves through the sports world. After warning for more than two years that something like this was bound to happen, they break down what it means for the league, the players, and the broader sports betting ecosystem.

🎰 NBA Betting Scandal

    • How deeply the betting industry is intertwined with pro sports — sportsbooks spent a staggering $52M on NBA broadcast ads last season
    • Will Adam Silver testify before Congress?

    • The American Gaming Association’s warning to leagues about prediction market companies

    • Jaylen Brown’s comments on the lack of gambling education for players

    ⚾ World Series Watch

    • Shohei Ohtani and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. continue to dazzle as they lead the Dodgers and Blue Jays

    🏈 College Football Shake-Up

    • Brian Kelly is out — another high-profile firing (and another hefty buyout)

    ⚽ Messi’s New Deal

    • Lionel Messi re-signs with Inter Miami, extending his contract through 2028

    🏁 Final Lap

    • Honoring Jets legend Nick Mangold and previewing the NASCAR Championship race

    Episode 133 of Wait, What?
    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    1 week ago
    45 minutes 29 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗖𝗘𝗟𝗧𝗜𝗖 𝗣𝗥𝗜𝗗𝗘: 𝘐𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘰𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘯 𝘊𝘦𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘴’ 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘌𝘝𝘗 & 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘦𝘧 𝘗𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘖𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘳 𝘛𝘦𝘥 𝘋𝘢𝘭𝘵𝘰𝘯

    Episode 132 |


    David and Tim are back and tipping off this week’s show with one of the NBA’s most respected executives — Ted Dalton, Executive Vice President and Chief Partnership Officer of the Boston Celtics. Ted shares insights from his 21-year career with the storied franchise, talks about the upcoming season, and explains how the Celtics’ culture drives everything the organization does, on and off the court.

    Before welcoming their guest, DP & McGhee cover a fast-paced mix of global sports business headlines — from billion-dollar media deals to coaching carousel chaos.

    Highlights from the episode:
    🏎️ Apple’s F1 Power Play — The tech giant is making another big push into live sports, agreeing to pay over $140 million per year for Formula 1 media rights starting in 2026.
    ⚽ FIFA Balancing Act — The world’s soccer governing body faces pressure to appease leadership while keeping the 2026 World Cup preparations on track, and also announced a plan to help rebuild soccer fields in Gaza.
    ⚾ October Baseball Drama — The hosts preview the World Series showdown between Shohei Ohtani’s Dodgers and Vladimir Guerrero Jr.’s Blue Jays, highlighting the global appeal of MLB’s biggest stage.
    🎓 College Coaching Carousel — It’s that time of year again, as Jay Norvell (Colorado State) and Billy Napier (Florida) join the list of fired FBS coaches. So far, nine schools have paid over $100 million in buyouts this season alone.

    🍀 Guest Spotlight: Ted Dalton, Boston Celtics

    • Reflects on two decades with the Celtics and the evolution of NBA partnerships

    • Explains how “Celtic culture” drives decision-making across the organization

    • Previews the upcoming season and what’s ahead for Celtics Nation

    • Shares insights on building long-term sponsor relationships in a changing sports landscape

    Another lively mix of sports business insights, headlines, and humor on Wait, What? — Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    2 weeks ago
    1 hour 5 minutes 31 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗬𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗵 𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘜𝘯𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘥’𝘴 𝘞𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘯

    Episode 131 | DP & McGhee

    David and Tim are back with another jam-packed episode of Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee, starting with a lively breakdown of the latest college football controversies — from chaos in Happy Valley to NCAA policy debates that could reshape the future of college athletics.

    Then, they welcome Wade Martin, COO and CEO, Baseball at Unrivaled Sports, for an in-depth conversation about the state of youth sports, sponsor engagement opportunities, and his own fascinating journey through the business of sports.

    Highlights from the episode:
    🏈 College Football Fireworks — The guys dissect the turmoil at Penn State, where coach James Franklin’s firing has sparked questions from the board of trustees over a new Adidas deal featuring an $500,000 product allowance for the athletic director.

    🕵️‍♂️ UNC Under Scrutiny — A Tar Heels cornerbacks coach is under investigation for providing impermissible benefits to a player’s parents.

    🎰 Betting & Branding on Campus — The NCAA is weighing whether to allow student-athletes to bet on pro sports and sell jersey patches to sponsors — opening new commercial frontiers (and new ethical debates).

    ⚾ MLB Playoffs & Paydays — David mourns his Cubs’ early exit before he and Tim dig into the upcoming CBA negotiations and the growing talk of an MLB salary cap.

    🏀 NBA & WNBA Buzz — The NBA makes its return to China, while Tim goes out on a limb with a bold prediction about the new WNBA commissioner.

     Guest Spotlight: Wade Martin (Unrivaled Sports) — The Unrivaled Sports COO/CEO joins the show to talk:

    • The evolution of youth sports and its booming ecosystem

    • Opportunities for brand sponsors to authentically engage families and communities

    • The future of youth baseball and its place in the larger sports landscape

    • Wade’s career path and lessons from building successful organizations across multiple sports sectors

    Another week, another mix of insight, debate, and fun on Wait, What?

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    3 weeks ago
    55 minutes 40 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗟𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲𝘀 (𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗲) 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴: 𝘞𝘕𝘉𝘈 𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘔𝘓𝘉 𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴, 𝘓𝘐𝘝 𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴 & 𝘢 𝘱𝘰𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘮

    Episode 130

    David and Tim are back with another jam-packed episode of Wait, What? — diving into the latest headlines across the sports industry with their trademark mix of insight and humor. From the WNBA’s contrasting narratives to record TV ratings and eyebrow-raising political involvement in sports, they cover it all.

    🏀 WNBA: A Tale of Two Stories — The on-court product has never been better with the Las Vegas Aces and Phoenix Mercury in the Finals, but off the court, a tense labor standoff continues between players (led by Napheesa Collier) and ownership (represented by Cathy Engelbert).
    🏈 Mark Sanchez Situation — The guys discuss the troubling developments surrounding the former Jets QB and current Fox Sports announcer.
    ⚾ MLB Wild Card Ratings Surge — ESPN celebrates a massive 64% increase in viewership for the Wild Card Series compared to 2024.
    💸 Money Talks — LIV Golf reports staggering losses of almost $462 million, while NBCUniversal nearly sells out its NBA ad inventory months before tipoff.
    🤝 Sponsorship Spotlights —
    • David highlights Starbucks’ new partnership with the U.S. Olympic & Paralympic Committee.
    • Tim salutes AT&T for renewing its long-running sponsorship of the NCAA and March Madness.
    🏛️ Politics Meets Sports — The current administration takes center stage with a flurry of moves and statements affecting the sports world — from FIFA World Cup visa denials and ICE threats at the Super Bowl to UFC’s bold plans for an event on the White House lawn.

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.
    Wait, What?

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    1 month ago
    45 minutes 10 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗼𝗼𝗹 𝗗𝗮𝘆𝘀: 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴𝘣𝘪𝘻 𝘌𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯

    Episode 129

    David and Tim are in class with three distinguished educators who are shaping the next generation of sports business leaders: Andy Clark (DePaul University), Keith Cutler (Montclair State University), and Mary Scott (Columbia University). This episode dives into the evolution of academic programs, the critical importance of industry connections, and how students can best prepare for a successful career in the sports world.

    Topics this week include:

    • ⛳️ Ryder Cup Recap – DP & McGhee weigh in on the competition and the poor behavior of some American fans.

    • 🎤 Super Bowl Halftime News – The NFL names global superstar Bad Bunny as the next halftime performer.

    • 🏫 Sports Management Education – Our guests discuss the evolution of programs, the importance of industry ties, and how students can best prepare for sportsbiz careers.

    • 🏀 WNBA Labor Tensions – Napheesa Collier's pointed comments raise questions about the growing divide between players and owners ahead of collective bargaining.

    𝘞𝘢𝘪𝘵, 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵? Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.


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    1 month ago
    1 hour 12 minutes 21 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗙𝗼𝘅 𝗢𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗥𝘂𝗻: 𝘛𝘰𝘮 𝘍𝘰𝘹 𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘎𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘦𝘳 𝘓𝘦𝘢𝘨𝘶𝘦

    Episode 128

    DP & McGhee are joined by legendary sports marketer Tom Fox, whose remarkable career has spanned leadership roles at Nike, Gatorade, Wasserman, Arsenal, Aston Villa, and the San Jose Earthquakes. Tom shares behind-the-scenes stories from his journey and offers sharp insights into the rapidly evolving sports business landscape.

    Before Tom joins, David and Tim break down the week’s biggest sports business headlines — from game-changing tech in baseball to major stadium developments across the U.S.

    This episode covers:
    📊 Nielsen’s new methodology – What it means for sponsorship values and media rights fees
    ⚾ MLB’s ABS System – How automated balls and strikes could change the game forever
    🏈 Tom Brady’s potential competitive edge as an NFL owner given his role at Fox Sports
    🏟️ Stadium shake-ups – Big updates in D.C., Cleveland, and Chicago with ripple effects for fans and franchises
    🌟 Tom Fox’s storied career – Lessons from decades shaping the global sports industry

    An episode packed with insider knowledge, bold predictions, and smart takes from one of the legends of the business.

    Wait, What?
    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    1 month ago
    57 minutes 53 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗚𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗱: 𝘈 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘈𝘛&𝘛’𝘴 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘬 𝘞𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘨𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘴𝘵

    Episode 127 | DP & McGhee

    This week’s episode features a wide-ranging conversation with Mark Wright, VP of Media & Sponsorships at AT&T. From his early career at AB InBev to leading sponsorship strategy at one of the world’s biggest brands, Mark shares insights on career growth, brand respect, and the importance of measuring partnerships.

    Alongside our guest spotlight, DP & McGhee dive into the week’s biggest stories shaping the business of sports:

    🏀 Clippers Controversy – Steve Ballmer invested another $10M into Aspiration, the company at the center of allegations involving a $28M Kawhi Leonard endorsement payment.
    💼 NBA Reorganization – Two former podcast guests take on expanded leadership roles in a sweeping league restructuring.
    🏆 WNBA Playoffs & News – Playoff updates, looming work stoppage talk, and the proposed sale of the Connecticut Sun.
    🎾 US Open Surge – Record-breaking viewership and historic attendance milestones in Flushing.

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.
    Wait, What?

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    1 month ago
    51 minutes 8 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗕𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀: 𝘋𝘗 & 𝘔𝘤𝘎𝘩𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬 𝘕𝘍𝘓 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴, 𝘕𝘉𝘈 𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘢 & 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦

    Episode 126 | DP & McGhee

    No guest? No problem. David and Tim fire up the mics for a packed episode covering the biggest stories in sports business — with sharp insights and a touch of humor.

    Here’s what you’ll hear this week:

    🏈 NFL Week 1 Ratings — Eagles-Cowboys nearly set a record (until weather interfered), and YouTube delivers solid numbers for Chiefs-Chargers. But should they have been bigger?

    💰 Super Bowl Ad Frenzy — NBC sells out Super Bowl LX at a record pace, locking in $8M per :30. With the Super Bowl, Winter Olympics, and NBA All-Star Game all in Q1 2026, NBC is sitting on a media jackpot.

    🏀 NBA Salary Cap Scandal? — Kawhi Leonard allegedly received $28M for a “no-show” endorsement deal, raising questions about whether owner Steve Ballmer is skirting cap rules.

    🤝 Spotlight on Sponsorships — Two major deals: American Express replaces Visa as the NFL’s credit card sponsor, and Tide cleans up with a new NWSL deal.

    🌍 Around the Sports World — From presidential game-day cameos to F1 keeping Monaco on the calendar, plus final thoughts on the U.S. Open.

    A full slate of sportsbiz insights, hot takes, and the occasional nonsense — exactly what you expect from Wait, What?

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    1 month ago
    44 minutes 17 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗕𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗧𝗼 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸: 𝘙𝘺𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘶𝘱 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘥 — 𝘱𝘭𝘶𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘰𝘵𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭, 𝘕𝘈𝘚𝘊𝘈𝘙 & 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦

    Episode 125 | DP & McGhee

    David and Tim return from the long weekend ready to dive into a packed episode filled with college football, NASCAR drama, and Ryder Cup anticipation. From major wins on the field to intense battles off of it, this episode covers the latest developments across multiple sports while featuring two powerhouse guests from the world of golf.

    Here’s what they cover:

    🏈 College Football Kickoff
    UNC gets trounced in their season opener.
    Florida State makes a statement with a huge win over Alabama.
    ESPN's College GameDay posts record ratings as they bid farewell to Lee Corso in his retirement send-off.

    🏎️ NASCAR News & Drama
    Intense legal battles heat up between NASCAR, 23XI Racing, and Front Row Motorsports — a fight that’s now public and very personal.

    🏁 Motorsports Spotlight
    Big storylines in F1, including success of F1 the Movie and major sponsorship news surrounding McLaren.

    ⛳ Ryder Cup Special Guests
    DP and McGhee are joined by Jeff Price, Chief Commercial and Philanthropy Officer of the PGA of America, and Richard Bunn, Chief Revenue and Content Officer of the DP World Tour, to discuss:

    • What makes the Ryder Cup one of the most unique and exciting events in sports.

    • Their go-to-market strategy for attracting and retaining commercial partnerships.

    • The impressive lineup of blue-chip sponsors backing the event.

    This episode brings a perfect mix of analysis, breaking news, and insider perspectives — a must-listen for sports business fans as the fall season heats up!

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    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    2 months ago
    1 hour 5 minutes 37 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    Are You Ready For Some Football? 𝘈 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘥, 𝘸𝘪𝘥𝘦-𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘚𝘶𝘯 𝘉𝘦𝘭𝘵 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘦𝘳 𝘒𝘦𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘎𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴

    𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟭𝟮𝟰 | 𝗗𝗣 & 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝗵𝗲𝗲

    In this episode, David and Tim sit down with Keith Gill, Commissioner of the Sun Belt Conference, for an open and wide-ranging conversation on the future of college sports. Gill shares his perspective on the College Football Playoff expansion, the transfer portal, and reflects on his own journey as a student-athlete at Duke University.

    Before Gill joins the show, DP & McGhee break down some of the hottest topics in sports business:
    ⛳ PGA TOUR initiative: CEO Brian Rolapp establishes a new Future Competition Committee, with Tiger Woods as chair
    ⚾ MLB’s evolving media strategy: Netflix secures streaming rights to the Home Run Derby
    🏀 NBA ownership moves: Finalization of the Celtics and Trail Blazers team sales
    👏 WNBA milestone: Record-setting league attendance

    And, a tribute to a motorsports marketing legend, Humpy Wheeler. 🏁

    A jam-packed episode covering pro leagues, media, and the ever-changing college sports landscape.

    𝗙𝗲𝗮𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗞𝗲𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗚𝗶𝗹𝗹, 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝘂𝗻 𝗕𝗲𝗹𝘁 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲

    𝗪𝗮𝗶𝘁, 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁?

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.

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    2 months ago
    41 minutes 45 seconds

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    𝗧𝗲𝗻𝗻𝗶𝘀 𝗔𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲? 𝘈𝘩𝘮𝘢𝘥 𝘕𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘯 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘤𝘺 & 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘗𝘛𝘗𝘈

    Episode 123 | DP & McGhee


    In this episode, David Paro and Tim McGhee kick things off with their signature Spotlight on Sponsorships before diving into big stories across the sports business landscape. They wrap things up with a conversation with Ahmad Nassar, Executive Director of the Professional Tennis Players Association (PTPA) and CEO of Winners Alliance.

    ✨ Spotlight on Sponsorships
    🏟️ Olympic Venue Naming Rights – LA2028 makes history by selling venue naming rights, while iconic sites like Dodger Stadium and the Rose Bowl remain untouched.
    🚗 NASCAR Series Title Change – O’Reilly Auto Parts replaces Xfinity as the title sponsor of NASCAR’s second series, creating a strong endemic fit.
    🪖 USAA & NFL – USAA renews its long-standing partnership with the NFL, with DP highlighting Tim’s role in the original deal.

    📑 Around the Leagues
    🏒 NHL CBA Quietly Renewed – A major labor milestone passes with little fanfare.
    🏈 Football Headlines – Updates on the Brian Flores discrimination case, more turbulence within the NFLPA, and NCAA sanctions for Michigan football.

    🎾 Guest Spotlight: Ahmad Nassar
    David and Tim welcome Ahmad Nassar, Executive Director of the PTPA and CEO of Winners Alliance. He shares:

    • The PTPA’s mission to give tennis players a stronger collective voice and improve their careers both on and off the court.

    • The difference and similarities between various players associations.

    • His experience as a leader at NFL Players, Inc.

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    2 months ago
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    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗕𝗶𝗴 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗚𝗿𝗼𝘄: 𝘐𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘓𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘓𝘦𝘢𝘨𝘶𝘦'𝘴 𝘣𝘪𝘨 𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯

    Episode 122 | DP & McGhee
    Co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee open with a sharp look at recent headline-making moves in sports media. They break down the NFL’s $2.5B stake in ESPN—part of a massive $25B valuation—and Fox Sports’ strategic investment in IndyCar, exploring how these deals could reshape the sports broadcast and rights landscape.
    The discussion then tackles the troubling persistence of sexism and misogyny in sports. DP & McGhee address incidents like sex toys being thrown onto the court at WNBA games, and examine both the progress and pushback faced by Jen Pawol, MLB’s first female umpire, who recently made history in Atlanta.
    This week’s guest is Liz DiLullo Brown, EVP and Chief Marketing & Business Relationships Officer for Little League International. Liz shares insights from the just-completed Little League Softball World Series and previews the Little League World Series, beginning August 13 in Williamsport, PA. She explains how Little League is evolving to stay culturally relevant and details the organization’s growing partnership with Major League Baseball to inspire the next generation of athletes.
    𝗦𝗺𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝘀. 𝗢𝗰𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗻𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲. 𝗔𝗹𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗦𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘀 & 𝗕𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀.
    𝗪𝗮𝗶𝘁, 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁?

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    2 months ago
    49 minutes 30 seconds

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    𝗢𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗢𝗳 𝗚𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘥, 𝘍𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘬 𝘝𝘶𝘰𝘯𝘰

    Episode 121 | DP & McGhee

    In this Legends Series episode of Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee, co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee sit down with industry pioneer Frank Vuono — a true architect of the modern sports marketing era. From supercharging the NFL’s licensing operation in the 1980s to co-founding ISI and 16W Marketing, Frank shares hard-earned insights and behind-the-scenes stories from a remarkable career spent working with some of the biggest names in sports.

    But first, DP & McGhee run through another wild week in sports:

    ⚽ MLS Mashup: No vote yet on switching to the international soccer calendar — plus Messi and Jordi Alba face suspensions after skipping the All-Star Game.
    🧠 NFL HQ Shooting & CTE: A tragic incident at the NFL’s office building leads to broader questions around mental health and its connection to CTE — a thread picked up from last week's powerful convo with Leonard Marshall.
    ⚾ Legends Lost: Honoring two icons — baseball great Ryne Sandberg and wrestling superstar Hulk Hogan.
    💥 Bryce vs. The Boss: Bryce Harper stirs the pot again, this time calling out MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred.

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.
    Bold conversations. Real legends. Only on Wait, What?

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    3 months ago
    1 hour 8 minutes 31 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗕𝗼𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺 𝗕𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘇: 𝘓𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘧𝘰𝘰𝘵𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭, 𝘣𝘪𝘨 𝘩𝘪𝘵𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘪𝘨𝘨𝘦𝘳 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘴

    Episode 120 | DP & McGhee


    In this wide-ranging episode, co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee sit down with former New York Giants star Leonard Marshall. Known for his dominant play on the field, Marshall opens up about his legendary NFL career, his championship days in New York, and his impressive post-football business ventures. But before welcoming Leonard, the hosts take a lap around the world of sports and culture with their trademark wit and insight.

    Here’s what they cover:

    🎸 RIP to a Rock Icon
    The hosts reflect on the passing of Ozzy Osbourne and his cultural impact well beyond music.

    🏀 WNBA Making Waves

    • The All-Star Game fashion statement: players sported T-shirts calling for a new CBA

    • Questions around the quality of play in the game itself

    • Paige Bueckers goes public with her relationship with former UConn teammate Azzi Fudd

    • How WNBA players are strategically messaging their demands for progress

    🏌️ Open Championship Recap
    Scottie Scheffler adds another major to his résumé with a win at The Open.

    🏈 NFLPA in Flux
    More drama within the NFL Players Association as internal upheaval continues.

    💬 Then it’s time to go deep with Leonard Marshall — NFL great, business leader, and true renaissance man.

    Tune in for a blend of sports nostalgia, breaking headlines, and sharp commentary that only DP & McGhee can deliver.
    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.
    Bold conversations, powered by Wait, What?

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    3 months ago
    49 minutes 34 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    Hey Now, You’re an All-Star: 𝘔𝘓𝘉 𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘢, 𝘓𝘦𝘪𝘸𝘦𝘬𝘦'𝘴 𝘭𝘦𝘨𝘢𝘭 𝘸𝘰𝘦𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢 𝘞𝘪𝘮𝘣𝘭𝘦𝘥𝘰𝘯 𝘳𝘦𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘥

    Episode 119 | DP & McGhee

    DP & McGhee return with a wide-ranging look at the latest in sports and sports business — from the All-Star Game to a possible showdown in MLB labor talks.

    They also break down the shocking indictment of Oak View Group Founder & CEO, Tim Leiweke, and what it means for the future of OVG and other management firms.

    Also in this episode:
    🌭 Joey Chestnut’s wildest records
    🎾 Wimbledon on and off the court
    🏆 Chelsea’s Club World Cup beatdown of PSG
    🏁 Shane van Gisbergen keeps dominating road courses

    From labor disputes to competitive eating, it’s all in play.

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business.
    Bold conversations, fresh from the pod — this is Wait, What?

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    3 months ago
    46 minutes 47 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    𝗨𝗻𝗹𝗶𝗺𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗣𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹: 𝘝𝘢𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢 𝘛𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘦-𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘨𝘶𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘈𝘜'𝘴 𝘮𝘰𝘥𝘦𝘭 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵

    Episode 118 | DP & McGhee

    🎙️ Hot Takes on Hot Dogs
    Co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee kick off with the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest, praising Joey Chestnut’s continued dominance while diving into the controversy surrounding the women’s winner’s disqualification.

    ⭐ WNBA All-Star Pay & Player Power Moves
    The hosts spotlight the modest All-Star bonuses for WNBA players and the Players Association’s rejection of the league’s initial CBA proposal. Plus, they dig into a potential conflict of interest as Napheesa Collier and Breanna Stewart wear multiple hats—as union leaders and co-founders of the rival Unrivaled league.

    🏁 NASCAR in the Windy City
    David recaps the Chicago Street Race, won by Shane van Gisbergen, and debates whether the event has staying power on NASCAR’s calendar.

    📺 Politics, Paramount & CBS Sports
    The show takes a turn toward politics, reacting to Paramount’s $16.5M settlement with Donald Trump and asking what it could mean for CBS Sports’ brand partners.

    🇨🇦 Bills Mafia Border Woes?
    Could Canadian Bills fans bail on games this season? Tim flags some cross-border red tape that might hit home attendance.

    🥎 Feature Interview: Vanessa Taveras – Athletes Unlimited
    Vanessa Taveras, Chief Partnerships Officer at Athletes Unlimited, joins to talk about:
    • The surge in women’s sports
    • What makes the AU Softball league unique
    • How she pitches AU to brands looking for authentic, athlete-first platforms

    🎧 A jam-packed episode that blends hot dogs, fast laps, political shakeups, and the future of women-led sports leagues.

    Smart takes. Occasional nonsense. Always at the corner of Sports & Business. Don’t miss this episode of Wait, What?

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    4 months ago
    59 minutes 8 seconds

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    Turn On Your Search Light: 𝘚𝘤𝘰𝘵𝘵 𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘹𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘯 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 — 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘥

    𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟭𝟭𝟳 | 𝗗𝗣 & 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝗵𝗲𝗲

    This week, DP & McGhee sit down with Scott Carmichael, founder and CEO of Prodigy Search — one of the most trusted names in executive search across sports. From Lakers ball boy to front-office insider, Scott shares what’s changed in the hiring game and what’s next for leadership in sports.

    Also: It’s July 1 — which means birthdays, Bonilla, and a few curveballs from the sports business world.

    🎙️ Scott Carmichael on
    His path from ball boy to CEO
    How the search business has evolved
    What hiring companies and candidates often get wrong
    The next wave of leadership in sports

    🎂 July 1 Highlights
    Debbie Harry turns 80
    NIL anniversary — how college sports changed 💰
    Bobby Bonilla Day (yes, again) ⚾💸
    A nod to Red Dawn, the first PG-13 movie 🎬

    📈 SportsBiz Rundown
    Malik Beasley investigation 🕵️‍♂️
    WNBA expansion updates 🏀
    Big sponsorships from AARP, MGM, and PayPal 🤝
    FIFA Club World Cup status check 🌍⚽

    🎥 David reviews the F1 movie
    Start your engines — it’s a hit. 🏎️🔥

    Fast Takes. Smart Analysis. Always at the intersection of sports and business. Don’t miss this episode of Wait, What?

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    4 months ago
    48 minutes 4 seconds

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    Summer's Here and the Time is Right: 𝘑𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘦 𝘎𝘪𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘯 𝘙𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘛𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘋𝘰𝘸𝘯𝘵𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘨𝘰 & 𝘏𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘳 𝘑𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘺

    Episode 116 | DP & McGhee
    This week, we tackle the biggest headlines in the sports business — from NBA expansion rumors to Wrexham’s stunning $475M valuation — and then sit down with Julie Giese, President of the NASCAR Chicago Street Race.

    We cover:
    • Julie’s path from Watkins Glen to Phoenix to the heart of Chicago
    • How NASCAR brought racing to city streets — and pulled it off
    • What it really takes to grow a career in sports

    Plus:
    • $10B Lakers valuation — and what it means for expansion fees
    • Joe Gibbs Racing’s dominance at Pocono
    • Manchester United ticket prices on the rise
    • Who scored (and who slid) in the NBA & NHL Finals TV#s
    • Haliburton’s injury and the Pacers’ outlook

    🎧 Fast takes. Smart analysis. Always at the intersection of sports and business.
    Don’t miss this episode of Wait, What?

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    4 months ago
    51 minutes 37 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    From The US Open to Mexico City-A Sportsbiz World Tour

    115 | DP & McGhee

    What's behind the headlines in sports this week? DP & McGhee serve up another fast-paced rundown of the latest in the business of sport:

     PGA TOUR Enterprises makes a power move, naming Brian Rolapp (former NFL media chief) as CEO. What does this mean for the future of the TOUR and any potential reunification with players on the LIV Tour?

     Scott O’Neil and Chris Heck are back together—this time at LIV Golf.

     JJ Spaun stuns the field and captures the U.S. Open—we look at what his win means.

     FIFA Club World Cup struggles to sell tickets in the U.S.—Was this a complete miss by FIFA?

     WNBA is in talks with ION for renewing media rights. Should the players be at the table?

     NASCAR was in Mexico City—What was the reception? You'll hear a few different narratives.

    🎧 Fast takes. Smart analysis. Always at the intersection of sports and business. Don’t miss this episode of Wait, What?



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    4 months ago
    32 minutes 44 seconds

    Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee
    Two sports marketing insiders, David Paro and Tim McGhee, bring you a fresh take on the sports business — often irreverent, sometimes cynical, and occasionally serious. From their years leading both agencies and client teams, they break down today’s biggest industry stories and share lessons learned along the way. Joined by top voices from the sports marketing world, DP & McGhee help you see the game behind the game. You’ll laugh, learn, and sometimes just say, “Wait, What?”