The AI Legal revolution is already here.  That’s the bottom line from my conversation with LegalTech thought leader, educator, and founder, Thomas G. Martin.  It’s no longer just about using tools to be more productive. What we’re looking at is a transformation of what a “legal service provider” is. Tom’s theory is that every law firm is now a software company. Whether or not you agree with the ultimate conclusion, you’ll be hard pressed to find flaws in the logic that leads him to it.  The implications of this are far reaching. Practicing lawyers, law students, startup founders — if guided by the ultimate needs of the client — will witness major shifts in the model for delivering those services.  This is not a matter of a decade. It is just around the corner — with the foundation already shifting underneath everyone’s feet.  But this is not cause for panic or alarm. We haven’t passed some event horizon for law firm tech adoption. It’s a moment for reflection, investment, and for embracing the opportunities that this pivotal moment presents.  As always, views expressed are my own. https://ca.linkedin.com/in/thomasgmartin https://www.lawdroidmanifesto.com/ https://lawdroid.com/

Alex Baker, founder of Legal Tech Collective, comes on to talk about how practicing lawyers can leverage their know-how and experience to develop and productize LegalTech solutions. Whether its internal solutions to streamline your practice or client-facing tools that improve how you offer legal services, lawyers who think like LegalTech founders can position themselves and their practices to out-compete technology laggards. We talk about how lawyers can go from idea to product, what challenges they face along the way, and how to position such products so that the law firms underwriting their development can rightly see them as an investment with potential ROI (margin and market share) as opposed to a partner's costly pet project. 

I'm joined by LegalTech consultant Emma Kelly (quadK) to discuss law firm deployment of technology. We talk about what an "AI law firm" might look like and mean for corporate clients, small businesses, and even individuals seeking legal services. Along the way, we explore the evolution of AI and machine learning from its e-discovery roots to prospects for practice-specific end-to-end digital platforms for legal services.    You can reach Emma at emma@quadk.co or follow her at Emma Kelly | LinkedIn. 

Legal practitioners and legal ops professionals play complementary roles that, combined, are critical to the successful deployment of LegalTech solutions at a corporate. I sit down with Michiel Ypma, Group Head of Legal Operations and Finance at ABB, to talk about the role of Legal Ops in helping lawyers identify the problems that need solving, finding the right solutions, securing internal buy-in, and driving user adoption. As it turns out, legal practice has a lot to learn from MBA-style thinking about strategic planning and operations.  You can find Michiel at Michiel Ypma | LinkedIn *As always, views expressed our own* 

I'm joined by Devon Willitts, Legal Engineering Lead at Robin AI. We talk LegalTech deployment at large corporates, covering the evolution of AI/ML, use cases for contract analysis, measuring the effectiveness of tech tools, and successful user adoption in-house.   

Building AI Agents is not complicated, and it opens up opportunities to automate and streamline your day-to-day work as a lawyer. On this episode, I explain what Agentic AI is and how it works, why you should learn to build AI Agents on your own, and how they fit within a spectrum of LegalTech solutions for legal practitioners.

LegalTech tools to audit, monitor and even give real-time feedback on employee communications tackle a key vector of legal risk for any organization. I talk to Darin Hicks, CEO of LitLingo, about the benefits and potential challenges of deploying these products at a large legal corporate.   LitLingo - Detect and Prevent Careless Communication   Darin Hicks on LinkedIn

I discuss the industry tailwinds behind the accelerating adoption of LegalTech by legal professionals in-house and at law firms.  

Even if it wasn't on the agenda, LegalTech was top of mind for many during the 2025 ABA Antitrust Spring Meeting. In this episode, I share what I learned from attending the conference about how specialized practitioners are using technology to support their legal practices.

In this episode, I share some impressions and takeaways from attending LegalWeek 2025, a LegalTech conference hosted this year in NYC.

Kicking the podcast off with an overview of LegalTech – what it is, the industry's current state of play, the tailwinds driving its adoption, and the benefits and risks of deploying it in your legal practice. Version Up is one lawyer's journey to digitally transform his legal practice. Follow along as I try to separate the signal from the noise and smartly deploy value-add LegalTech tools at a legal corporate.  **Views are my own and do not reflect those of my employer** Hosted by Kaj Rozga Music by Brett Ryback