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Upside Down People
Caleb Gray
122 episodes
4 days ago
Every week on Upside Down People Podcast we’ll have authentic conversations with Jesus-loving people diving into some aspect of faith, life, history, culture, politics & more and, with curiosity, our hope is to discover the truth of a living a life marked by the love of Jesus. We would love to hear from you!! If you have a guest/topic suggestion or want to find out how you can support the show email us at www.upsidedownpeople.org/contact-us
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Every week on Upside Down People Podcast we’ll have authentic conversations with Jesus-loving people diving into some aspect of faith, life, history, culture, politics & more and, with curiosity, our hope is to discover the truth of a living a life marked by the love of Jesus. We would love to hear from you!! If you have a guest/topic suggestion or want to find out how you can support the show email us at www.upsidedownpeople.org/contact-us
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Upside Down People
Hell, Free Will & the Logic of Deconstruction | Matthew Tingblad

In an age of doubt, deconstruction, and shallow gospel presentations, how does a biblical understanding of hell, salvation, and eternity reframe our faith from mere escapism to an intimate relationship with a holy God? Why do we reduce heaven to perks and hell to punishment, missing the heartbeat of Scripture of knowing God Himself?

Matthew Tingblad is a speaker with Sightline Ministry (formerly Josh McDowell Ministry) , apologist, and author of Why Did God Do That?, tackling the toughest questions about God's goodness in a broken world.


Search "Matthew Tingblad Upside Down People" to find the full episode on Spotify. Apple PodcastYoutube

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4 days ago
15 minutes 49 seconds

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How Faith & Lament Can Transform The Way We Handle Trauma | Dr. Steve Midgley

In this profound conversation, Steve Midgley invites us to move beyond helplessness in trauma's wake by discovering refuge in Christ and embracing the transformative practice of lament. He encourages the church to cultivate corporate expressions of lament, drawing on the Psalms to find words for the pain and cultivate deeper communal bonds amid suffering. What does it look like to stand in awe of God together and learn to love people when they are vulnerable and suffering?

Steve Midgley is a pastor, former psychiatrist, and author committed to bridging biblical truths with mental health realities through his compassionate ministry and writing.

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6 days ago
7 minutes 28 seconds

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Finding Faith in the Face of Suffering | Dale Meredith

Dale Meredith, a pastor at Red Door Community Church in Perth Western Australia, brings her raw and honest reflections on navigating some of life’s deepest pain while clinging to the beauty of Jesus. Our cultural temptation is to shy away from grief and cling to control, so how do we process suffering without losing faith? Why do we struggle to sit in the discomfort of lament, and what does it mean to truly surrender to the wildness of God? Join us as we dive into a heartfelt conversation with Dale, exploring how the gospel reshapes our approach to pain, community, and the pursuit of Jesus’ way.

Tune in to hear about the transformative power of lament, the freedom found in embracing God’s mystery, the pitfalls of consumerist church culture, the beauty of incarnation in community, the courage to stay committed through hardship, and much more...

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1 week ago
1 hour 39 minutes 25 seconds

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The Psychiatrist-Turned-Pastor: Engaging Trauma With Sensitive Curiosity

In this compelling conversation, Steve Midgley urges us to confront trauma with the compassionate wisdom of Scripture, guiding the church to listen deeply and avoid simplistic solutions. He calls for a sensitive engagement with suffering, rooted in biblical narratives like Joseph’s betrayal and the cross of Christ, to foster healing through presence and understanding. What does it mean to truly walk with the broken and reflect Jesus’ heart in a trauma-shaped world?


Steve Midgley is a pastor, former psychiatrist, and author committed to bridging biblical truths with mental health realities through his compassionate ministry and writing.

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2 weeks ago
12 minutes 47 seconds

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The Hidden Dignity of Singleness: A Biblical Perspective on Relationships | Danielle Treweek

Dr. Danielle Treweek is a post-doctoral theological scholar, author, and speaker whose work, including her book Single Ever After, explores the profound significance of singleness, sexuality, and relationships through a biblical lens.

In a world where marriage is often seen as the ultimate goal, how can singleness be embraced as purposeful and dignified? Why do we struggle with feelings of isolation, rejection, or unfulfilled desires, and how does the gospel offer hope and meaning in these tensions? Join us as we dive into these vital questions with Dr. Treweek, unpacking how a biblical worldview reshapes our understanding of singleness and community.

Tune in to explore why singleness has intrinsic value, the pitfalls of cultural assumptions about relationships, how the church can better love and include single Christians, the transformative power of God’s sovereignty in our circumstances, and the beauty of living as brothers and sisters in Christ, pointing toward eternity.


Find out more about Dani or grab a copy of her book - https://www.danielletreweek.com/

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 3 minutes 49 seconds

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How Charlie Kirk's Murder Exposes the Battle for Society's Soul | Stephen McAlpine

In the wake of a shocking public tragedy like the assassination of Charlie Kirk, how does evil expose the fault lines in our society, and what role can Christianity play in navigating the chaos? Why are we witnessing a surge in young people turning to faith amid cultural polarisation, and how does the gospel offer hope in an age of anxiety, rage, and crisis? Join us as we dive into these urgent questions with Stephen McAlpine and examine how we can respond with courage, forgiveness, and non-anxious presence in turbulent times.

Listen in to discover the cultural ripple effects of high-profile violence, the pitfalls of polarised politics and social media silos, why forgiveness stands as a countercultural force, the unseen spiritual battles behind societal evil, the transformative power of a biblical worldview in fostering dialogue, and much more...


Stephen McAlpine is an author, pastor and cultural commentator known for his insights on faith, media, and the intersection of politics and Christianity in a divided world.


Follow us on Instagram/Facebook @upsidedownpeoplepod

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1 month ago
1 hour 17 minutes 51 seconds

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Lessons from History & Uncovering Blind Spots | John Dickson

In this insightful conversation, John Dickson challenges us to anchor discipleship in the timeless truths of the Gospels and the disciplined practice of catechesis. He urges the church to move beyond fleeting fads, embracing humility and historical wisdom to uncover blind spots and grow in authentic faith. What does it mean to centre Jesus and see the whole of Christianity in a single, transformative vision?

John Dickson is a historian, theologian, and author dedicated to illuminating the timeless truths of Christianity through his engaging teaching and writing.

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1 month ago
11 minutes 50 seconds

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The Ongoing Change of a Christ-like Leader | Gary Millar

In this conversation we’re reminded that Christlike growth is slow, honest, and rooted in the heart. It is focused on integrity over image.

In this vulnerable conversation, Gary Millar explores the call for leaders to live examined lives—marked by self-reflection, repentance, and a willingness to be shaped by God through both scripture and community. Real change doesn’t happen in isolation, and true maturity means letting others speak into our blind spots.

What does it take to lead with humility, courage, and a heart that stays soft before God?


Gary Millar is the Principal of Queensland Theological College, a respected theologian, and author known for his deep commitment to biblical preaching, pastoral leadership, and helping Christians grow in Christlikeness

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1 month ago
9 minutes 46 seconds

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How The Greatest Command Is Our Antidote to Tribalism & Individualism | Chris Cipollone

Chris Cipollone is an author and founding director of Life to the Full, known for his works and exploration of the intersections of faith, mental health, and biblical flourishing.

In a world where individualism and tribalism have fractured the fabric of how we love, how can recapturing Jesus' greatest command to love God and love others bring genuine flourishing? Why do we struggle to extend love amidst everyday hardships—from family wounds to societal divides—and what does the gospel reveal about embracing service as the path to wholeness? We explore the integration of faith with mental health for deeper resilience, balancing truth and grace amid disagreements, redefining love in abusive situations, the power of family as a legacy of flourishing, overcoming self-righteousness in the church, and much more...

Join us as we uncover how a Jesus' Greatest Command reshapes our identities, relationships, and communities.


To find out more about Chris and his work - https://www.chriscipollone.com/


Find a copy of Chris's book "Here to Love" from our friends at The Good Book Company - https://www.thegoodbook.com.au/here-to-love

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1 month ago
1 hour 14 minutes 36 seconds

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Deconstructing Doubt: The Hidden Dangers Of Modern Spirituality | Stephen McAlpine

Stephen McAlpine, author and cultural commentator, unpacks how the church can navigate a rollercoaster culture of secular anxiety and pagan spirituality with bold faith and gospel truth. Listen in to this moment to discover how to anchor your faith in a chaotic culture.

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1 month ago
11 minutes 3 seconds

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John Anderson on Why Faith & Freedom Are Worth Fighting For

John Anderson, former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, renowned social commentator, and host of the Conversations podcast, brings a wealth of priceless insight shaped by his Christian faith and decades of public service.

In a world grappling with fractured trust, cultural division, and a loss of shared values, how can a biblical worldview restore hope and purpose? Why are our societies unraveling under the ideologies of individualism and progressivism, and what does Christianity offer as a path to authentic meaning and societal renewal? Join us as we dive deep into these pressing questions with John Anderson and explore how faith, history, and principled leadership can shape a flourishing future.

Tune in to discover the critical role of freedom in a just society, the dangers of abandoning historical wisdom, the power of authentic Christian engagement in culture, the call to fearless leadership in turbulent times, and much more...


Find out more about John Anderson here:

https://johnanderson.net.au/

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2 months ago
56 minutes 54 seconds

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Dr. Chris Watkin | Stop Chasing Desires Or Control

Dr. Christopher Watkin is a Christian scholar, author, and professor renowned for his works in the intersections of philosophy, theology, and culture.

In this episode we dive into the tension between unchecked hedonism and rigid self-control, revealing how both paths ultimately crush the human spirit and lead to despair without a higher integrating force. Drawing from biblical wisdom and critiquing modern thinkers like Jordan Peterson, Chris unpacks why our fragmented selves and polarised societies struggle with sharing a common good, fueling everything from personal meaning crises to cultural wars.

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2 months ago
8 minutes 42 seconds

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Radical Hospitality, Navigating Female Friendships & Overcoming Deconstruction | Natalie Runion & Amanda Viviers

Natalie Runion is a best-selling author, former worship leader, and founder of the Raised to Stay ministry; Amanda Viviers is the creative director for Compassion Australia, has authored 15 books, and hosts the Kin Women podcast.

We are wired for community, but building it demands commitment, courage, and vulnerability—especially in the church, where hurt can linger and generational divides widen. We talk about fostering authentic sisterhood, healing from church hurt, and creating intergenerational spaces that thrive!

Tune in to learn why community matters and how to create the connections you crave, the role of vulnerability in starting meaningful conversations, practical ways to navigate church hurt and generational tensions, the power of radical hospitality in building relationships, how to cultivate spiritual practices amid doubt and busyness, and much more...

* From our recent live podcast event, Diary Of A Creative Christian.

Find out more about Natalie Runion - https://natalierunion.com/

@raisedtostay


Find out more about Amanda Viviers - https://amandaviviers.com/

@amandaviviers

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2 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes 12 seconds

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Rich Villodas | The MOST IMPORTANT Teaching In Scripture .moments.

Rich Villodas, author and pastor of New Life Fellowship in Queens, New York, shares unpacks the transformative power of the Sermon on the Mount.

Tune in to discover how can Jesus’ teachings guide us through the beauty and struggle of discipleship, why the Sermon is a practical blueprint for Christian living, the balance between heart and behaviour, the cost of following Jesus, and how faith transforms struggles into treasures...

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2 months ago
8 minutes 46 seconds

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Rich Villodas | Redefining Diversity in Faith: moments

Rich Villodas, author and pastor of New Life Fellowship a vibrant, multi-ethnic church in Queens, New York, shares some profound insights on embracing diversity as a fruit of the Gospel. In a world quick to divide, how do we foster unity without losing distinction?

Tune in to find why true diversity isn’t a growth strategy but a reflection of God’s new humanity, how to navigate the delicate dance of cultural complexity, the dangers of reactive division, and the power of staying emotionally connected while remaining distinct in Christ.

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2 months ago
9 minutes 5 seconds

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Inside The Spiritual Awakening Of Gen Z | Zach Meerkreebs

Zachary Meerkreebs is a pastor, author and speaker, shaped by the Asbury outpouring, joins us to explore the quiet, subversive beauty of humility.

In a culture obsessed with self-assertion and striving, we’re wired to chase significance, yet our souls ache for a deeper communion with God. Often, in the mundane or the broken, we sense a longing for divine encounter—one that doesn’t bend to our formulas or performance. So, how does radical humility, rooted in Christ’s own descent, reorient us toward true freedom and spiritual awakening? And how do we posture ourselves for God’s presence when it feels elusive?

Expect to uncover why humility is the foundation of spiritual awakening, the freedom lost in comparison and self-reliance, what stirs an authentic outpouring of the Spirit in an age of skepticism, why revival is less about our striving and more about God’s initiative, how brokenness becomes a doorway to meeting Jesus; and how to cultivate communities that shine with vibrant, God-glorifying authenticity, free from the fear of pride or the trap of false humility and much more...


To find out more about Zach head over to his website https://www.zachmeerkreebs.com/ or follow him @zachmeerkreebs on instagram


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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 54 seconds

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Dr Derwin Gray - How Faith Can Rewire Your Brain (And Why Victimhood Holds Us Back) | Moments

Dr Derwin Gray, pastor of Transformation Church and former NFL player, brings a unique perspective on spiritual formation and mental health through the lens of the Gospel.
In a culture obsessed with victimhood and self-focused narratives, how can we move beyond perpetual offense to find true healing and purpose in Christ?

Tune in to learn why authentic self-care is rooted in discipleship, how memorising scripture can rewire your brain like cognitive behavioural therapy, the dangers of a victimhood mindset, how to create a church culture of love without compromising truth, the balance between God’s love and discipline, and much more...

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3 months ago
10 minutes 57 seconds

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Unraveling Creativity and Conviction | Tenielle Neda and John Van Deusen

Tenielle Neda and John Van Deusen are acclaimed Christian artists whose music reflects their deep faith and creative journeys.
In a world where artists face pressure to conform or chase trends, how can faith shape authentic creativity? Join us for an inspiring conversation from the Origin Collective Gathering, where Tenielle and John share how their relationship with Jesus transforms their art, the struggles of balancing creativity with life’s demands, and the beauty of creating from a place of honesty.

Listen in to learn why authenticity matters in art, how faith breaks down the sacred-secular divide, the challenges of navigating social media as Christian artists, the freedom found in embracing creative mistakes, how to create in the midst of life’s limitations, and much more...


Find out more about


Origin Collective : @_origin.collective_


Tenielle Neda: @tenielleneda

John Van Deusen: @jvdmusic

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3 months ago
1 hour 58 minutes 27 seconds

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Moments: How God’s Love Transforms the Way We Create | Makoto Fujimura

Makoto Fujimura is a leading contemporary artist and an influential voice in exploring the intersection of creativity, faith, and love.


In a world obsessed with justifying work and productivity, why does art matter, and how does it reflect the abundant love of God? Join us as we dive into the profound connection between creativity and divine love, exploring how every act of creation—from painting to plumbing—can be an expression of God’s gift to the world.

Expect to learn why art doesn’t need justification, how God’s reckless creativity shapes our understanding of love, the difference between transactional work and acts of love, why even non-Christians create from a place of gift, how Jesus redefines love as sacrificial, and much more...

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3 months ago
9 minutes 37 seconds

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Why Jordan Peterson’s Philosophy Falls Short (And What Jesus Offers Instead) | Dr. Chris Watkin

Dr. Christopher Watkin is a Christian scholar, author, and professor renowned for his works like Biblical Critical Theory and his deep dive into the intersections of philosophy, theology, and culture.
In an age marked by a "meaning crisis," where individuals wrestle with identity and purpose, how can a biblical worldview offer a path to true flourishing? Why do we swing between chasing fleeting desires and striving for rigid self-control, and what does the gospel reveal about finding peace in a fragmented world? Join us as we unpack these profound questions with Chris and explore how faith reshapes our understanding of self and society.

Tune in to discover why humans crave meaning, the pitfalls of hedonism and stoic self-sacrifice, how the Bible redefines the common good, the transformative power of grace in overcoming fear of failure, the unique integration of truth and goodness in a Christian worldview, and much more...


To find out more about Chris: https://christopherwatkin.com/

Youtube: www.youtube.com/@christopherwatkin9627

Twitter: twitter.com/DrChrisWatkin

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3 months ago
1 hour 53 seconds

Upside Down People
Every week on Upside Down People Podcast we’ll have authentic conversations with Jesus-loving people diving into some aspect of faith, life, history, culture, politics & more and, with curiosity, our hope is to discover the truth of a living a life marked by the love of Jesus. We would love to hear from you!! If you have a guest/topic suggestion or want to find out how you can support the show email us at www.upsidedownpeople.org/contact-us