Sam and Katie start the episode super light (yeah right) asking the existential question: when should you trust divine timing, and when should you act? Then, we chat with the absolutely lovely and real Erin Mathew. She’s mindset coach, human design reader and mom of three herself. Erin breaks down how moms use their charts to parent in a way that’s most aligned, the mental load, and practical mindset tools. We cover all things HD, too, including emotional authority, open centers (spleen), postpartum anxiety, insomnia, and why medication can be part of spiritual growth (not a failure!!). Plus, actionable tips for generators: delegate, follow joy, and use micro-moments of peace. As always, we close out with a reading and a message meant to resonate with you, too! Thanks for tuning in - we love you!!
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This week, Sam and Katie dig into relationships as a spiritual practice: from a ketamine-assisted meditation that reframed “purpose” as unconditional love, to the “meeting place” visualization, to how attachment styles show up in marriage, friendship, and work. They get honest about how Sam’s relationship with her brother is transcending timelines, boundaries, resentment, deep-talk vs small-talk, and how the people around you mirror what you most need to heal.
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00:00 Welcome in to the Coven
02:07 Sam’s “assisted” meditation
04:54 The “meeting place” visualization explained
06:01 Big reveal: from “light” to unconditional love
17:42 Our partnership as a growth mirror
20:54 “Grading” the relationship buckets (wife, mom, friend)
27:44 The ripple effect of your inner circle
46:43 Attachment styles
58:11 Friendship audit: effort, energy, depth vs. small talk
1:06:30 Wrap-up, gratitude, love note
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We are THRILLED to welcome the insanely wonderful and hysterical Caitlin Wilder: postpartum doula, childbirth educator, creator of Wilder Beginnings, and co-host of the You’re So Right podcast. As we quickly found out, Caitlin is that incredibly rare mix of deeply spiritual and totally relatable: a Reiki master who recently took a fireball shot on Watch What Happens Live. We get into how birth can be a portal (literally), the “ping girl” philosophy for following tiny nudges, human design in daily life, crazy past life readings, and setting sane postpartum boundaries. We also play rapid fire games that put Caitlin on the spot and end with a tarot pull that green-lights a big career move. Light, useful, a little witchy, funny… we hope you enjoy it as much as we did talking with her!!
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00:00 Welcome into the coven; heavy collective energy
03:13 Punk rock music makes us feel a sort of way
07:26 Is there room for rage and anger as moms?
10:36 Welcome Caitlin Wilder!!!
11:42 Caitlin’s Bravo era + Watch What Happens Live fireball moment with Tamra and Adriana
15:21 From corporate to doula: making birth feel magical, not just medical
16:27 Reiki path (Kelsey Patel) and trainings
23:39 Following your “pings”
34:11 Human design and it’s wild beginnings
41:14 Past-life regression (Jeroen De Wit) & meeting her son’s soul
49:04 “This or that” game
55:26 Tarot mini-read for Caitlin: King of Swords + Page, Two and Ace of Pentacles 1:04:08–1:06:00 Where to find Caitlin: @wilderbeginnings, You’re So Right (with @heysleepybaby)
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A Sam and Katie catch-up for the books! Katie takes a risk and drops the t-word (tarot) in a business meeting- and no one dies. That moment opens a bigger conversation with Sam about hiding vs over-explaining who we are, the weird social rewards of “the mask,” and why being fully seen still scares successful adults. We unpack soulmates, gratitude without the guilt trip, and the difference between micro-fears (new things, hard conversations) and the big ones (loss, death, being misunderstood). Then (of course) we pull cards and wrap it up by discussing the mental load and making more room for play.
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00:00 Welcome in; Katie said “tarot” in a business meeting…
06:40 Fear of being fully seen: the risks and rewards
15:20 Identities without career and relationships
21:37 Soulmates and past lives
32:36 Is stress optional?
34:58 Gratitude and being grateful “enough”
41:16 Can’t escape the bad
46:10 The novelty rule
47:20 Fear of loss
58:00 Closing, cards, and can’t thank you enough for listening!
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In this episode, Katie and Sam decide the compound life is definitely for them (and then promptly do nothing about it) before chatting with the wonderful, very special Tory Sjovall: astrologer, intuitive, and Reiki practitioner. Tory blows their minds reading not only Katie and Sam’s charts, but also their kids. She takes astrology out of the “complicated chart” zone and into everyday life: from parenting tips based on your child’s moon sign to how astrology can strengthen relationships. Whether you’re brand new to astrology or already pulling charts for your whole family, you’ll walk away with something useful.
Tory has a special code for our listeners: use COVEN for 10% off all emailed readings!
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Katie and Sam sit down with the WONDERFUL intuitive numerologist and astrologer Kaitlyn Kaerhart (author of You Are Cosmic Code). Kaitlyn unpacks what numerology really is (and what it isn’t), breaks down life path numbers and karmic debt, and explains why personal year cycles can completely change how you move through life. She shares the wild story of how numerology came to her in a dream and how she built her Money Codes system. This conversation had both Sam and Katie looking at numbers in a whole new way (and probably you, too!).
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In a very special solo episode, Katie and Sam dive deep into manifestation: what it really is, how it shows up in everyday life, and why science, spirituality, and nervous system health all play a role. From beer pong at a three-year-old’s birthday to the yearning for compound-life by the beach (iykyk), they share personal stories, different schools of thought (Abraham Hicks, To Be Magnetic, Kate Northrup), and practical ways to call in what you want. They close with a tarot pull that reminds us: stability, partnership, and emotional power are all within reach.
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In this episode, we sit down with human design coach, fellow mom and amazing human, Alexandra Cole. She’s a former corporate consultant turned coach who makes the “woo” feel practical (especially when it comes to parenting!). Together, we talk through Human Design (and the insane story behind how it started), what you really need to know about your own chart, and what happens when intuition meets bedtime chaos. This episode has tangible takeaways for all curious about Human Design, but especially parents: we’re talking feeding rhythms, emotional triggers, and the surprising relief that comes from stepping back and trusting your child.
**Plus a special promo for her 10-week live course Parenting by Design, kicking off September 22, 2025 (doors close September 15!!) with $100 off using code COVENPBD. Trust us- you’ll want this in your toolkit!
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Katie and Sam kick things off by exploring the overlap between AI and spirituality: intuition versus technology, the noise of modern life, and whether robots could ever replace gut instinct (or become our grandchildren’s boyfriends and girlfriends?!). From there, Sam sits down solo with healer Vanessa Fitzgerald (@veeshoney) for a deep dive into NRT, radical responsibility, ayahuasca journeys, and what it really takes to heal. They cover supplements, emotional blocks, and how finding your person can transform your path. This one blends the practical with the profound, and leaves you rethinking where true healing begins.
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Sam and Katie open up about all things psychic and unseen: the readings, mediums, and spiritual moments that shaped their paths (spoiler: not all of them were good!). From the wild synchronicities of messages that couldn’t be explained to the letdowns of past-life “pendulum” sessions, they share personal stories of grief, parenting, and the signs that cracked them open spiritually. They end with a special reminder to stop second-guessing yourself and just go.
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Lindsey Simcik, wonderful human and one half of the wildly successful Almost 30 podcast is here and she’s bringing her signature mix of grounded wisdom and real-life reflection to the show. She joins Sam and Katie to talk about what it means to be self-led, how becoming a mom shifted her spiritual lens, and why letting go of perfection is a lifelong practice. From Human Design to Saturn returns, this episode is all about tuning in, loosening your grip, and trusting yourself.
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Chelsea Anderson has a hack for every meaningful aspect of our lives and now she’s here to explain them all, especially the spiritual ones. Join Sam and Katie as they sit down with the Michael Jordan of babysitting and queen of manifestation tricks. From going viral overnight to sharing her best tips for not letting fear hold you back, this episode is packed with practical magic, myths about what’s making you anxious, understanding what we truly want and so much more.
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Welcome to the *very first* episode of Under Coven: the spiritual podcast for regular (not boring!) people. Hosts Katie and Sam kick things off with a very real conversation about how they each found spirituality: through grief, motherhood, music, therapy, tarot, and a lot of making it up as we go along.
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