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Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Dear Media
26 episodes
5 days ago

This is Treated, a new podcast with Dr. Sara Szal (formerly Gottfried): Real talk. Real science. Real solutions. Each week you will leave with the tools you need to heal your mind, body, and soul so you can take your health into your own hands. Most people are trying to optimize, it’s in our nature. But we can’t “to-do-list” our way out of taking care of ourselves. This means health needs a perspective shift. On Treated, Dr. Sara Szal sits down with experts in their fields and patients who have found holistic solutions to their health questions and created lasting transformation.

Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. If you have a question, leave a voice message at speakpipe.com/treated.


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This is Treated, a new podcast with Dr. Sara Szal (formerly Gottfried): Real talk. Real science. Real solutions. Each week you will leave with the tools you need to heal your mind, body, and soul so you can take your health into your own hands. Most people are trying to optimize, it’s in our nature. But we can’t “to-do-list” our way out of taking care of ourselves. This means health needs a perspective shift. On Treated, Dr. Sara Szal sits down with experts in their fields and patients who have found holistic solutions to their health questions and created lasting transformation.

Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. If you have a question, leave a voice message at speakpipe.com/treated.


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Medicine
Health & Fitness,
Alternative Health
Episodes (20/26)
Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
The 4 Most Misdiagnosed Hormone Issues in Women—and What to Do About Them
This is the third episode in Treated’s ongoing hormone series, and it’s a must-listen if you’ve ever been told “you’re fine” when you know something’s off. Dr. Sara uncovers the four most commonly misdiagnosed hormone conditions in women—PCOS, endometriosis, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and perimenopause—and breaks down why symptoms like fatigue, mood swings, irregular periods, and weight changes are so often dismissed as stress. She explains how traditional lab panels often miss early signs, how to track patterns your doctor might overlook,  and how to advocate for the right diagnostic tests and care. At the end, Dr. Sara answers a listener voicemail from a woman recovering from a hysterectomy and offers guidance for navigating surgical perimenopause. If you've ever felt misdiagnosed, dismissed, or gaslit—this episode is your permission slip to dig deeper and take back control of your hormonal health. // REFERENCES //  Listen to the first episode in Treated’s Hormone Series, Hormones 101, and the second episode with Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi, which explores endometriosis, PCOS, and breast cancer.  Read, The Hormone Cure, by Dr. Sara.  Check out Dr. Sara’s website, How to Track Your Blood Sugar and Lab Reference Ranges for Healthy Adults. Period Tracking Apps: Flo or Clue  Continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM): Now available over-the-counter.Abbott—Libre Rio and Lingo are both over the counter, no prescription needed. https://www.hellolingo.com/. Libre Rio is designed for people ages 18 years and older with prediabetes or Type 2 diabetes who do not use insulin. Lingo is designed for healthy people who want to improve glucose control and energy.Dexcom—you can now purchase Stelo over-the-counter https://www.stelo.com/ Zondervan, K. T., C. M. Becker, and S. A. Missmer. "Endometriosis." New England Journal of Medicine 382, no. 13 (2020): 1244–1256. https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMra1810764.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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7 hours ago
21 minutes 57 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Dr. Darshan Shah Reversed His Biological Age by 30 Years— and He Knows You Can Too
When you’re struggling with your health in the traditional medical system, it can feel like there’s no real solution. Pill after pill masks the symptoms but never seems to solve the problem. Dr. Darshan Shah is health and wellness specialist, board-certified surgeon, and the founder of Next Health, the world’s first and largest longevity clinic. Today at the age of 52, his biological age is 29. But Dr. Shah’s health wasn’t always like this. At 42, he was suffering from diabetes, auto-immune disease, and hypertension. When his son was born, he realized that with all these conditions, he might not live long enough to see him graduate from college or get married. That’s when he decided to turn his health around. It took some research, but within eight months, he completely transformed his health. In this conversation, Dr. Shah and Dr. Sara discuss the importance of healthspan over lifespan and care that prioritizes root-cause healing and prevention. They discuss practical tools like wearables, mobility tests you can do at home, fasting, and stress reduction. Then Dr. Shah explains his four-part model for optimal health: lifestyle, functional, preventative, and longevity medicine. Together, they offer a new blueprint for taking control of your health—and creating a future where feeling your best is the new normal. // LEARN MORE FROM DR. DARSHAN SHAH //  Check out, Next Health, his health optimization and longevity center.   Download his free Biomarkers guides here (mentioned in the episode).  Visit his website drshah.com  Listen to his podcast, EXTEND.  Follow him on Instagram, darshanshahmd.  // REFERENCES //  Dr. Sara mentioned Dr. Kara Fitzgerald’s research on biological age reversal through nutrition:   Fitzgerald, K. N., T. Campbell, S. Makarem, and R. Hodges. "Potential Reversal of Biological Age in Women Following an 8-Week Methylation-Supportive Diet and Lifestyle Program: A Case Series." Aging (Albany NY) 15, no. 6 (March 22, 2023): 1833–1839. doi:10.18632/aging.204602.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 week ago
48 minutes 13 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Microplastics: What They Are and How Minimize Your Exposure
Microplastics are everywhere– but what are they doing to our bodies and what can we do about it? Microplastics are small pieces of plastic less than 5 millimeters long. Recently, they have moved from being an environmental concern to a potential human health crisis. Dr. Sara has been tracking them for over 20 years and today, she breaks down what they are, how you're exposed, and who’s most at risk. Right now, we don’t have large-scale human studies to fully understand the clinical implications. While we wait for the science to catch-up, Dr. Sara shares the signs and symptoms of microplastic buildup and actions you can take today to limit your exposure.  Microplastics are small but their impact is big and growing. To learn more about them, check out the resources below and make sure to read Dr. Sara’s articles on them (Part One and Part Two).  // RESOURCES //  Dr. Sara’s Articles on Microplastics: Part One and Part Two.  News Reports:  Barron’s – More Microplastics In Glass Bottles Than Plastic: Study CNN – ​​Microplastics shed by food packaging are contaminating our food and drink, study finds Other Articles:  French Study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889157525005344 Chaïb, Iseline, et al. “Microplastic Contaminations in a Set of Beverages Sold in France.” Journal of Food Composition and Analysis 144 (August 2025): 107719. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jfca.2024.107719. Bocker, R., and E. K. Silva. “Microplastics in Our Diet: A Growing Concern for Human Health.” Science of the Total Environment 968 (2025): 178882. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2025.178882.  Li, Y., et al. “Microplastics in the Human Body: A Comprehensive Review of Exposure, Distribution, Migration Mechanisms, and Toxicity.” Science of the Total Environment 946 (2024): 174215. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.scitotenv.2024.174215.  Luo, Q., et al. “Microplastics as an Emerging Threat to Human Health: An Overview of Potential Health Impacts.” Journal of Environmental Management 387 (2025): 125915. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jenvman.2025.125915.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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2 weeks ago
13 minutes 2 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Everything You Need to Know About Endometriosis & PCOS with Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi
If your cycle is unpredictable, you’re growing hairs where you shouldn't, and your period is acting like a rebellious teenager: this episode is for you. Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi (Dr. A) is an OB/GYN and leading expert in endometriosis and PCOS, who has dedicated her life to raising awareness and advancing women's health. You may have heard of her through her popular podcast, SHEMD, and she’s the gynecologist to celebrities like The Kardashians.  This is the second episode in our Hormone series; if you missed Dr. Sara’s first hormone episode a few weeks ago, go back and listen because it lays the foundation for this conversation. Today, Dr. Sara and Dr. A explore everything you need to know about endometriosis and PCOS. From what they are, to how she diagnoses them, and why they’re so underdiagnosed. Dr. A discusses the epidemic of medical gaslighting among women, how big pharma creates a vicious cycle with pain medication, and why 75% of PCOS patients have eating disorders. She also shares her passion for spreading awareness about breast cancer. Dr. A wants every woman to understand her lifetime risk, which can be calculated using a specific tool (linked here and in the resources below). While 1 in 8 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer, 85% of those cases occur in women with no family history. To finish, Dr. A shares her own experience with breast cancer, including how she faced medical gaslighting and advocated for herself to undergo a double mastectomy. You don’t want to miss this one—it’s informative, energizing, and moving. // RESOURCES //  Click here to get SaraSzalMD Lab reference range MyRisk by Myriad: A genetic test for cancer-causing genes and breast cancer risk calculation. Breast Cancer Lifetime Risk Calculator: Dr. A has a questionnaire on to calculate this risk The Surrender Experiment: The book that Dr. A found helpful during her breast cancer journey // LEARN MORE FROM DR. THAÏS ALIABADI //  Listen to her podcast, SHEMD. Visit her website draliabadi.com.  Follow her on Instagram, @drthaisaliabadi  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 1 minute 42 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
What Your Labs Say About Hormones, Inflammation, and Toxic Load with Kayla Barnes-Lentz
Today, Dr. Sara and longevity expert Kayla Barnes-Lentz dive deep into the emerging science of microplastics, detox pathways, and personalized medicine. Drawing from Kayla’s recent lab work—which included elevated BPA (bisphenol A) levels and genetic vulnerabilities—they explore how chronic exposure to environmental toxins affects hormones, inflammation, and long-term health. Together, they discuss how to interpret genomics like the 3x4 panel, why methylation and inflammation matter for women’s health, and what proactive steps can be taken to reduce toxic load—from cod liver oil and cruciferous vegetables to advanced biomarker testing. This conversation is the first of many focused on data-driven protocols for female optimization—rooted in science and grounded in lived experience. Get Dr. Sara’s Lab References Ranges Guide in Healthy Adults Here.  // LEARN MORE FROM KAYLA BARNES-LENTZ //  Listen to her podcast, Longevity Optimization with Kayla Barnes-Lentz. Visit her website kaylabarnes.com.  Watch her routine for longevity.  Follow her on Instagram @kaylabarnes.    // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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4 weeks ago
1 hour 9 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Start Here: The Hormone Series with Dr. Sara
Welcome to Hormones 101—the first episode in Dr. Sara’s deep-dive hormone series. In this foundational solo, Dr. Sara breaks down what hormones are, why they matter, and how imbalances can impact everything from mood and metabolism to sleep, libido, and energy. She introduces the “Big Five” hormones—cortisol, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and thyroid—explaining their distinct roles, how they interact, and why cortisol calls the shots. Dr. Sara also unpacks underdiagnosed conditions like endometriosis and PCOS, and reveals how modern life, chronic stress, environmental toxins, and medical gaslighting contribute to widespread hormonal dysfunction. You’ll walk away with practical steps for testing and balancing your hormones through lifestyle changes. This episode is all about understanding your biochemistry and learning how to advocate for better care. // REFERENCES //  Get Dr. Sara’s Lab Reference Ranges Guide in Healthy Adults Here.  Listen to her episode with Andrew Huberman.  Read her book, The Hormone Cure.  JAMA study from 2023 (regarding subclinical hypothyroidism and cognitive decline): Papaleontiou, M., and J. P. Brito. "Disentangling the Association Between Excess Thyroid Hormone and Cognition in Older Adults." JAMA Internal Medicine 183, no. 12 (2023): 1332–1333. doi:10.1001/jamainternmed.2023.5618. Fertility in Sterility in 2023 review (regarding luteal phase progesterone deficiency and infertility): Raperport, C., E. Chronopoulou, R. Homburg, et al. "Endogenous Progesterone in Unexplained Infertility: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis." Journal of Assisted Reproduction and Genetics 40 (2023): 509–524. 2024 study (regarding men with low progesterone, estradiol/testosterone ratios, and visceral adiposity): Mauvais-Jarvis, F., and S. H. Lindsey. "Metabolic Benefits Afforded by Estradiol and Testosterone in Both Sexes: Clinical Considerations." Journal of Clinical Investigation 134, no. 17 (September 3, 2024): e180073. doi:10.1172/JCI180073. 2023 meta-analysis published in JAMA Psychiatry (regarding mindfulness and salivary cortisol) Vargas-Uricoechea, H., A. Castellanos-Pinedo, K. Urrego-Noguera, H. D. Vargas-Sierra, M. V. Pinzón-Fernández, E. Barceló-Martínez, and A. F. Ramírez-Giraldo. "Mindfulness-Based Interventions and the Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Adrenal Axis: A Systematic Review." Neurology International 16, no. 6 (November 20, 2024): 1552–1584. doi:10.3390/neurolint16060115. Sanada, K., J. Montero-Marin, M. Alda Díez, M. Salas-Valero, M. C. Pérez-Yus, H. Morillo, M. M. Demarzo, M. García-Toro, and J. García-Campayo. "Effects of Mindfulness-Based Interventions on Salivary Cortisol in Healthy Adults: A Meta-Analytical Review." Frontiers in Physiology 7 (October 19, 2016): 471. doi:10.3389/fphys.2016.00471.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
1 hour 31 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Surviving the United States of Dysregulation with Dr. Nicole LePera (The Holistic Psychologist)
Do you always feel a sense of urgency—like you’re on edge, reactive to everything around you? Or, on the other hand, shut down and withdrawn? Then you may be experiencing dysregulation. Dysregulation occurs when the body and mind fall out of balance and struggle to return to a neutral state. Today, clinical psychologist Dr. Nicole LePera (@theholisticpsychologist) joins Treated to explore how and why so many of us live in a constant state of dysregulation.  Dr. Sara and Dr. Nicole discuss how our early environments shape the way we respond to stress as adults, what a healthy stress response looks like versus a chronically dysregulated one, and why women are more susceptible to dysregulation. Then they dive into the importance of taking a “bottom-up” approach to healing and explore the role cortisol plays in keeping us stuck in survival mode.Throughout the episode, Dr. Nicole shares personal stories from her own healing journey—from the impact of her mother’s emotional withdrawal during childhood, to using substances to self-regulate in high school, and even how her mother’s stress during pregnancy contributed to her chronic anxiety. To close, Dr. Sara and Dr. Nicole offer practical tools for regulating the nervous system– from setting boundaries to improving sleep. // LEARN MORE FROM DR. NICOLE LEPERA //  Visit his website theholisticpsychologist.com Follow her on Instagram @theholisticpsychologist.  Purchase all of her books through her website, How To Be The Love You Seek, How To Meet Yourself, How To Do The Work.    // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes 47 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
How to Heal: From Surfing to Psychedelics
The common prescription to heal our psyche today is to take an SSRI and go to talk therapy. But as we’ve learned through the past few episodes, this only works for 30% of people. That means we need to explore other ways to heal our consciousness. Today on Treated, Dr. Sara sits down with Dr. Brad Jacobs to learn about the alternative ways he has healed his consciousness. From taking MDMA for the first time in college, to surfing and skiing, doing Ayahuasca in ceremony, and both experiencing and prescribing Ketamine therapy—Dr. Brad Jacobs walks us through how to use the present moment as a tool for mental healing. // LEARN MORE FROM DR. BRAD JACOBS //  Visit his website drbradjacobs.com  Follow him on Instagram @bradjacobsmd.   Listen to our first conversation here and second one here.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
42 minutes 27 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Sisterhood as Medicine (with Dr. Sara’s Sister, Anna Reed)
Join Dr. Sara and her sister, Anna Reed, for an honest, funny, and sincere conversation around navigating the healthcare system in the United States as a woman and learning how to regulate your nervous system with age. Anna is a fourth grade teacher and was diagnosed with endometriosis earlier on in life–-a condition that runs in their family. Today, she’s had three surgeries to remove it and underwent a hysterectomy last year. Anna shares the advice she got from Dr. Sara while going through that period and the health protocols she now follows. Then, Anna opens up about the joys and struggles of being a teacher, the importance of cultivating female friendships, and how she found herself after divorce. They close with practical tips to optimize your health for any stage of life.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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1 month ago
46 minutes 13 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Loosening the Knot: Rob Fisher on the Power of Therapeutic Relationships
Rob Fisher is a marriage and family therapist (MFT), Hakomi trainer, professor, and author. After working in the entertainment industry, he began studying for his master’s degree in psychology. About a decade later, he discovered Hakomi—a body- and mindfulness-centered approach to psychotherapy that emphasizes experiential healing and the importance of the therapeutic relationship. Today, Rob has taught many therapists this practice and is developing “The Compassion Companion,” an AI tool powered by ChatGPT, for patients to use. Rob joins Dr. Sara on Treated to discuss what led him to switch careers, how he found Hakomi, why it’s such an important form of therapy, and what he’s learned about human nature through it. They also explore the power of writing and what inspired him to write both nonfiction and fiction books. Later, Rob shares his hopes and fears about AI and what the impact will be on human connection and in-person therapy. Dr. Sara tests out “The Compassion Companion,” Rob’s AI therapy tool, and they engage in a real-time Hakomi experience. To close, he shares a memory of one of his favorite clients and reflects on how he hopes to be remembered. // LEARN MORE FROM ROB FISHER //  Visit his website robfishermft.com  Check out the Compassion Companion and use it here.  Purchase his book, The Weeping Buddha and Experiential Psychotherapy With Couples, A Guide for the Creative Pragmatist.  // OTHER REFERENCES //  Research studies on AI and psychotherapy: Kuhail, Mohammad Amin, Mohamed Bahja, Ons Al-shamaileh, Justin Thomas, Amina Alkazemi, and Joao Negreiros. "Assessing the Impact of Chatbot-Human Personality Congruence on User Behavior: A Chatbot-Based Advising System Case." IEEE Access PP (2024): 1-1. doi:10.1109/ACCESS.2024.3402977.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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2 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 13 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
We’re Innately Worthy: Kate Northrup on Feeling Safe and Manifesting Abundance
What if the key to financial success and a fulfilling life is slowing down and feeling safe? Kate Northrup is an author, podcaster, and coach who helps people regulate their nervous systems to attract abundance. After the traumatic birth of her daughter in 2016, Kate was left with anxiety and hypervigilance. It was then that she realized she had been using stress and pressure as fuel—and began to strategically relax. When she did, abundance started to flow into her life. In this episode, Kate guides us on how to move more slowly, engage our senses, and strengthen our intuition. Tune in to learn the simple, tangible advice that can lead to a life filled with more joy, peace, and abundance.  // LEARN MORE FROM KATE NORTHRUP //  Visit his website katenorthrup.com.  Follow her on Instagram @katenorthrup.   Listen to her podcast, Plenty, wherever you podcast.  Purchase her books, Do Less and Money: A Love Story.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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2 months ago
49 minutes 16 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Can Microdosing Psychedelics Actually Improve Your Health?
Did you know that some people take a small dose of LSD in the morning instead of an SSRI to treat depression? Microdosing psychedelics has become more mainstream, and today, Dr. Sara explores the growing body of research on microdosing to improve overall health. Although limited, studies have shown that microdosing LSD and psilocybin can improve blood pressure, sleep, mood, social cognition, and—anecdotally—creativity, with no reported adverse side effects. Dr. Sara examines the intricacies of these studies and highlights some of their limitations—particularly the lack of research on microdosing in women, and why this needs to change as the field continues to grow. To finish, Dr. Sara shares her personal experience with microdosing and what she hopes to see in the future. // BOOKS AND ARTICLES ON MICRODOSING //  ‘Microdosing: The people taking LSD with their breakfast’ ‘Silicon Valley Is Micro-Dosing ‘Magic Mushrooms’ To Boost Their Careers’ ‘Mommies Who Mushroom’ ‘Microdosing Psilocybin Mushrooms Improves Mood And Mental Health After One Month, New Study Finds’ Ayelet Waldman — A Really Good Day: How Microdosing Made a Mega Difference in My Mood, My Marriage, and My Life James Fadiman — Microdosing for Health, Healing, and Enhanced Performance James Fadiman — The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide: Safe, Therapeutic, and Sacred Journeys // RESOURCES ON MICRODOSING LSD //  Study published in 2024 (examining doses of 5 to 20 micrograms of LSD): Murphy, Robin J., Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, and Harriet de Wit. 2024. "Microdosing Psychedelics: Current Evidence From Controlled Studies." Biological Psychiatry: Cognitive Neuroscience and Neuroimaging 9 (5): 500-511. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.bpsc.2024.01.002.   Study published in 2024 by Allen et al. (examining 10 micrograms of LSD in men):  Allen, Nathan, Aron Jeremiah, Robin Murphy, Rachael Sumner, Anna Forsyth, Nicholas Hoeh, David Menkes, William Evans, Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, Frederick Sundram, and Partha Roop. 2024. "LSD Increases Sleep Duration the Night After Microdosing." Translational Psychiatry 14. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41398-024-02900-4. Study of eight men given LSD for creativity:  Murphy, R.J., R.L. Sumner, K. Godfrey, et al. 2025. "Multimodal Creativity Assessments Following Acute and Sustained Microdosing of Lysergic Acid Diethylamide." Psychopharmacology 242: 337–351. https://doi.org/10.1007/s00213-024-06680-z. Study in men on LSD and sleep (80 subjects):  Allen, Nathan, Aron Jeremiah, Robin Murphy, Rachael Sumner, Anna Forsyth, Nicholas Hoeh, David B. Menkes, William Evans, Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, Frederick Sundram, and Partha Roop. 1 2024. "LSD Increases Sleep Duration the Night After Microdosing." Translational Psychiatry 14 (1): 191.  // RESOURCES ON MICRODOSING MUSHROOMS //  Study of 34 people given 0.5 grams of dried mushroom: Cavanna, Federico, Stephanie Muller, Laura Alethia de la Fuente, Federico Zamberlan, Matías Palmucci, Lucie Janeckova, Martin Kuchar, Carla Pallavicini, and Enzo Tagliazucchi. 2021. "Microevidence for Microdosing with Psilocybin Mushrooms: A Double-Blind Placebo-Controlled Study of Subjective Effects, Behavior, Creativity, Perception, Cognition, and Brain Activity." bioRxiv 2021.11.30.470657. https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.11.30.470657. // RESOURCES ON MICRODOSING LSD AND MUSHROOMS //  Polito, Vince, and Priyanka Liknaitzky. 2022. "The Emerging Science of Microdosing: A Systematic Review of Research on Low Dose Psychedelics (1955-2021) and Recommendations for the Field." Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews 139 (August): 104706. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.neubiorev.2022.104706.   Polito V, Liknaitzky P. Is microdosing a placebo? A rapid review of low-dose LSD and psilocybin research. J Psychopharmacol. 2024 Aug;38(8):701-711. doi: 10.1177/02698811241254831. Epub 2024 Jun 14. PMID: 38877715; PMCID: PMC11311906.   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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2 months ago
27 minutes 45 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Yin and Yang: Balancing our Polarities with Dr. Brad Jacobs
How do we balance our polarities—our feminine and masculine, our lightness and darkness? In this episode, Dr. Brad Jacobs and Dr. Sara discuss how to balance our lives to optimize our healthspan by focusing on what is common sense but not common practice. Dr. Brad Jacobs delves into the top health issues he sees in his patients: loneliness, sleep disturbances, and a complete denial of their health. He then explores the complexities of modern masculinity and the pitfalls of traditional masculine models. To conclude, Dr. Brad Jacobs provides practical strategies for men to achieve balance, improve their well-being, and foster healthier relationships. // LEARN MORE FROM DR. BRAD JACOBS //  Visit his website drbradjacobs.com  Follow him on Instagram @bradjacobsmd.   Follow on  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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2 months ago
33 minutes 28 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Dr. Brad Jacobs on What Mainstream Medicine Gets Wrong About Health and How to Fix It
What drives a doctor to challenge the healthcare system? Dr. Brad Jacobs is a board-certified in Internal and Integrative Medicine and graduated from Stanford University— where he met Dr. Sara Szal over 30 years ago during their residency. It was then that he began to realize the deeper issues within the American healthcare system. Today, Dr. Brad Jacobs joins Treated to share his story—from growing up amid the excess of Beverly Hills to seeking truth and meaning through martial arts and travel. They also discuss why there is a lack of innovation in healthcare, his research on milk thistle, the importance of wearables, and how we can take care of ourselves outside of the broken medical system.  Before our next episode, find out your ACE score by taking this quiz.  // LEARN MORE FROM DR. BRAD JACOBS //  Visit his website drbradjacobs.com  Follow him on Instagram @bradjacobsmd.   Follow on  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 months ago
47 minutes 3 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Kayla Barnes-Lentz Plans to Live to 150. Here’s How She’s Going to Do it.
Can you imagine a world where we all live to be 150 years old? Kayla Barnes-Lentz is trying to make that a reality. Kayla is the owner of a longevity medical clinic and joins Treated to discuss the future of women’s health. She shares her personal protocols, passion for pushing the boundaries of science, and belief that women can live longer, healthier, and more vibrant lives. In this conversation she shares the top two strategies for longevity: sleep and eating a whole food diet. Dr. Sara and Kayla also explain the importance of performing end-of-one experiments and the array of findings Kayla has discovered by doing them. From mitochondrial health and ovarian aging to the truth about toxins and the power of red light therapy, this episode is packed with insights on biohacking. Is 150 the new 100? Kayla Barnes is betting on it.  Find out your Total Tox Burden by taking this test. // LEARN MORE FROM KAYLA BARNES-LENTZ //  Listen to her podcast, Longevity Optimization with Kayla Barnes-Lentz. Visit her website kaylabarnes.com.  Watch her routine for longevity.  Follow her on Instagram @kaylabarnes.    // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 30 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
How to Forgive Yourself with Sarah Ann Macklin
Model-turned-nutritionist Sarah Ann Macklin joins Treated for an intimate, raw, and deeply insightful conversation about stress, burnout, and the missing piece in our health: self-compassion. After years in the high-pressure world of modeling, Sarah found herself in the ICU—her body shutting down from extreme stress, malnutrition, and disconnection from herself. What followed was a decade-long journey of healing, studying nutrition, and uncovering the role of cortisol, self-kindness, and emotional health in true well-being. In this episode, we explore: How stress impacts your body and why “clean eating” isn’t enoughThe science of compassion and how it rewires your brain and metabolismWhy burnout happens long before we realize it—and how to reverse itBlue Mind Theory: How water, nature & nervous system resets transform stressA simple exercise to track self-critical thoughts and shift towards self-kindnessSarah also shares her upcoming book, The Compassion Cure, and why tracking your negative thoughts is as important as tracking your macros. If you’ve ever struggled with stress, burnout, or feeling “not enough,” this episode will change the way you approach your health. // LEARN MORE FROM SARAH ANN MACKLIN //  Listen to her podcast here. Visit her website. Follow her on Instagram @sarahannmacklin   // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 months ago
55 minutes 5 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
You Deserve Better Sex: How to Activate Your Pelvic Floor and Have Multiple Orgasms
Dr. Emily Morse and Dr. Sara Szal continue their conversations about sex and health in this episode. They start the conversation with a demonstration of the legendary magic wand and how it can be used to stimulate the prostate. Then they dive into why gay men have more satisfying sex and what heterosexual people can learn from them. After, they discuss the female pelvis and how to activate the pelvic floor. Dr. Emily Morse goes into how activating the pelvic floor leads to multiple orgasms and why every woman should be having them. The episode finishes by giving a glimpse into male sexual energy practices and orgasm control. // LEARN MORE FROM DR. EMILY MORSE //  Follow her on Instagram @sexwithemily.  Listen to her podcast, Sex With Emily, here or wherever you find your podcasts.  Check out her website here.  Purchase sex toys from her website.  Purchase her book, Smart Sex, here or anywhere you find books.  Join SmartSX here.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 months ago
31 minutes 50 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Dr. Emily Morse on Prioritizing Pleasure and Overcoming Sexual Shame
Imagine if sex was something you actually looked forward to? Dr. Emily Morse and Dr. Sara explore this very question on this episode of Treated. Dr. Emily Morse is a pioneer in the field of sex and sexuality, starting her podcast, Sex with Emily, over twenty years ago. She’s helped millions of people navigate their sex lives – challenging cultural taboos and misinformation in the hopes to create a future where everyone can live pleasure-filled lives.  Today, Dr. Emily and Dr. Sara discuss the importance of sexual wellness, intelligence, and health. They dive into the impact that stress, trauma, and shame has on the body – and how women are not given all the information about how birth control affects them. They break down why we have the orgasm gap and the tendency for women to prioritize their partner’s pleasure. After, Dr. Emily dives into how her childhood affected her romantic relationships and how she sought out pleasure. She explains how EMDR therapy helped her heal and how she navigates sex with partners today.    // LEARN MORE FROM DR. EMILY MORSE //  Follow her on Instagram @sexwithemily.  Listen to her podcast, Sex With Emily, here or wherever you find your podcasts.  Check out her website here.  Purchase her book, Smart Sex, here or anywhere you find books.  // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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3 months ago
53 minutes 7 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
How To Break Free From Toxic Stress
Following the last episode with Jeff Krasno on Good Stress, in this solo episode Dr. Sara unpacks the science behind toxic stress. She dives into how it embeds in the body, disrupts metabolism, accelerates aging, brain shrinkage, and chronic disease. Dr. Sara shares compelling research on the connection between stress, Alzheimer’s, diabetes, autoimmunity, gut health, and perimenopause. She also explains why women are especially vulnerable and offers practical, evidence-based tools to help you measure, manage, and heal from toxic stress. Whether you struggle with brain fog, anxiety, inflammation, autoimmunity, or hormone issues, this episode will help you understand the hidden role of stress—and what you can do to heal. // RESOURCES //  Find out your ACE Score by taking this quiz.  Studies Linking High Cortisol to Brain Shrinkage, Memory Loss, and Alzheimer's Risk: 2018 Study: The Framingham Heart Study2024 Studies: High Cortisol and the Risk of Dementia and Alzheimer’s Disease: A Review of the LiteratureNeuroinflammation, cerebrovascular dysfunction and diurnal cortisol biomarkers in a memory clinic cohort: Findings from the Co-STAR studyHow Can Early Stress Influence Later Alzheimer's Disease Risk? Possible Mediators and Underlying Mechanisms // KEEP IN TOUCH WITH DR. SARA // If you have a question, leave a voicemail at speakpipe.com/treated  Follow on IG: @saragottfriedmd @treatedwithdrsara Watch Treated on YouTube Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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4 months ago
41 minutes 4 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
Why We Need More Good Stress with Jeff Krasno
Entrepreneur, author, and wellness advocate Jeff Krasno joins Treated for a deep and inspiring conversation about metabolic health, longevity, and the power of good stress. Jeff shares his personal health transformation—from battling pre-diabetes, weight gain, and brain fog to reversing metabolic dysfunction through lifestyle medicine. In this episode, we explore: why balance is the foundation of health, the truth about pre-diabetes and why so many people are undiagnosed, the connection between childhood trauma, stress and chronic disease, and why social connection is the ultimate bio-hack for longevity.  Jeff also unpacks key insights from his book Good Stress, explaining why we need more hormetic stress (cold, heat, fasting, exercise) to unlock metabolic flexibility, mental clarity, and emotional resilience. If you’re ready to take control of your health and embrace the right kind of stress, this episode is a must-listen! Follow Jeff Krasno on Instagram @jeffkrasno Purchase his book, Good Stress, here or wherever you buy books.  Listen to Jeff’s Podcast, Commune with Jeff Krasno here.  If you want to learn more about Jeff, head to jeffkrasno.com.  If you have a question for Dr. Sara, head to speakpipe.com/treated. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.  Produced by Dear Media.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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4 months ago
52 minutes 12 seconds

Treated with Dr. Sara Szal

This is Treated, a new podcast with Dr. Sara Szal (formerly Gottfried): Real talk. Real science. Real solutions. Each week you will leave with the tools you need to heal your mind, body, and soul so you can take your health into your own hands. Most people are trying to optimize, it’s in our nature. But we can’t “to-do-list” our way out of taking care of ourselves. This means health needs a perspective shift. On Treated, Dr. Sara Szal sits down with experts in their fields and patients who have found holistic solutions to their health questions and created lasting transformation.

Join us every Wednesday for new episodes. If you have a question, leave a voice message at speakpipe.com/treated.