This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Andrew Martin, founder of Urban Landcare, to explore how personal grit, strategic pivots, and people-first leadership built one of San Diego’s most exciting landscape companies. From growing up on construction sites in Northern Kentucky to becoming a disruptive force in Southern California, Andrew’s journey is a masterclass in betting on yourself and evolving with the industry. In this episode, Andrew shares: How he launched Urban Landscapes in 2018 with two employees and 15 properties Why he quickly shifted from residential to commercial and leaned into irrigation as a profit center What he’s doing to stay ahead of California turf regulations and tech trends Why he took the time to learn Spanish and how it transformed his connection with the team His approach to competing with national firms by focusing on personal relationships and service consistency Whether you’re building your book from scratch or scaling into the millions, Andrew’s story offers a grounded, real-world look at what it takes to grow smart, lead well, and stay true to your values. Tune in to hear how one founder is dominating his local market while planning for what’s next.

This week on Trades Talk, Justin White breaks down the three questions every trade leader should be asking to assess culture, clarity, and hiring momentum. Inside the episode: • How a simple 1–10 scale can reveal culture gaps • What separates A players from C players, and why it matters • Five keys to building a growth-focused culture that attracts top talent • Why problems are actually your greatest asset Justin also shares updates from the Disruptors community, real coaching wins from members like Dylan Whitlow, and how custom GPTs like Landscape Intelligence are changing the game for contractors. If you want to build a culture that fuels growth, and learn how top operators think about team, tools, and mindset, this one’s for you.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Seb Lopez of Awake Abroad Media to talk about all things storytelling, content strategy, and personal branding. Seb brings a global perspective to his work, shaped by years of traveling, media production, and working with elite performers; from Olympic athletes to top real estate professionals. In this episode, Seb shares: Why shifting from social media consumption to creation is a game-changer How to build a brand around your values , not just your business The three core content types every company should be producing Why your personal brand attracts the right clients and talent The secret to creating content that actually drives results Whether you’re a CEO, marketer, or just getting started in content, this episode breaks down a practical and sustainable approach to media that connects and converts ; without burnout or fluff. If you’re ready to stand out, tell your story, and scale trust, this one’s for you.

This week on Trades Talk, Justin White shares key takeaways from an action-packed week on the road, including the Equip Expo in Louisville and the Disruptors Social hosted alongside Aspire, Crest, and Leanscaper. Justin recaps lessons from Jesse Cole’s “Five E’s”: Eliminate Friction, Entertain Always, Experiment Constantly, Engage Deeply, and Empower Action.....and how they apply to building remarkable client experiences in the trades. You’ll also hear about the debut of the Kress Voyager, the first fully autonomous mower capable of cutting labor costs by up to 80 percent, and how K&D Landscaping has reduced costs, improved retention, and boosted revenue through electric equipment adoption and better labor hour management. Justin closes with a challenge to every contractor: the next ten years are the Super Bowl of the trades. Those who act fast, innovate boldly, and execute relentlessly will lead the field.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Jon Gohl, a longtime team member at Aspire Software, to explore the power of reflection, mindfulness, and personal transformation in both life and leadership. Jon shares his journey from walking with a cane to preparing for a walk across the Grand Canyon, and how that physical recovery mirrors his approach to leading people, setting goals, and growing intentionally. In this episode, Jon opens up about: Overcoming physical challenges and creating accountability by sharing bold goals Using breathwork and mindfulness to stay present and grounded How vulnerability builds connection and unlocks team potential The value of listening deeply to your people, especially in field-based roles His leadership philosophy: ”Live on the skinny branches; where growth happens” Whether you’re scaling a business, leading a team, or looking inward, Jon brings a human-first approach to growth that blends personal development with professional purpose. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance technology with human connection, or how to lead with humility in a fast-moving world,  this episode will hit home.

This week on Trades Talk, Justin White shares insights from a Lunch and Learn in Denver hosted by Aspire Software and Designscapes Colorado, which focused on speed as a competitive edge in the green industry. Phil from Designscapes detailed how his team scaled to $50 million in revenue with 350 employees by doubling down on the basics, making decisions faster, and always doing what’s right. Justin also introduces the Speed Flywheel: Decide. Execute. Debrief. Learn.... a simple cycle helping contractors build momentum and scale faster. You’ll also hear: Why speed to lead is a contractor’s most powerful (and affordable) differentiator How companies are aiming for $1 million in revenue per employee The mindset shift from contractor to tech-enabled business Plus, get a preview of EQUIP Expo in Louisville and why the Disruptors Social at Zeppa’s Greenhouse is the place to be. This episode is for anyone looking to grow faster, work smarter, and get ahead in a changing market.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Derek Clenan, founder of Your Haven Landscape Designs, to break down how one idea , a simple design service,  turned into a full-scale design machine supporting contractors across the country. After going bankrupt at 24, Derek rebuilt from the ground up. Now, just over a year into launching Your Haven, he’s built a 44-person team, delivered over 1,000 designs, and created a recurring revenue model that’s changing how contractors sell work, reduce change orders, and deliver better projects. In this episode, Derek shares: • The mindset shift that helped him bounce back and rebuild • How the Backyard Blueprint and Pro Memberships are fueling rapid growth • Why contractors need better design support to scale their business • The culture and execution strategies driving his team’s success If you’re looking to sell more work, improve efficiency, and build something lasting, this episode delivers real, tactical insight from someone who’s doing it in real time.

This week, Justin breaks down why the next three years will bring more radical change than the last 30. The trades industry is on the edge of a transformation — and understanding these shifts early will separate the winners from the ones left behind. In this episode: Artificial Intelligence (AI) — How AI will reshape estimating, scheduling, communication, and leadership in the trades — and what early adopters are already doing to get ahead. Consolidation and Institutional Money — Why private equity and corporate investors are moving aggressively into the trades, and what that means for business owners looking to grow, partner, or exit. Automation and Robotics — From autonomous mowers to fully automated job sites — how technology is redefining field work, labor challenges, and margins. Justin also shares what his team is doing right now to prepare for these shifts and how you can build your own playbook for the future. Takeaways: The trades are entering a new era — technology is no longer optional. Institutional capital is accelerating consolidation faster than ever before. Automation will reward those who adapt quickly and think strategically. Listen if you want to: 👉 Stay ahead of the next industry wave. 👉 Future-proof your business. 👉 Hear how top trade leaders are adapting right now.

In this episode of Trade Talks, Justin White sits down with Mark Sedgley and Taylor Gould to discuss one of the biggest moves in the green industry: the merger of LMN, SingleOps, and Greenius into Granum. They unpack the story behind the new name, the marketing strategies that brought three powerhouse brands together, and why customer experience is the heartbeat of Granum’s future. From lessons learned in rebranding to the role of AI and technology in landscaping software, this conversation gives you an inside look at the trade secrets shaping the next era of the green industry. Whether you’re a landscape business owner, a tech enthusiast, or simply curious about where the industry is headed, this episode is packed with insights on growth, branding, and bold decision-making.

Register for Denver, CO Lunch and Learn: https://web.cvent.com/event/7bc1304f-be1e-4ecd-99f1-5cb9e3184495/summary?RefId=Designscapes In this weekly update, Justin White shares personal reflections on recent events, including his excitement for upcoming travel and networking opportunities. He discusses the importance of speed in business growth, particularly in the landscaping industry, and highlights the value of peer learning and community support. The conversation also features insights from the Disruptor Group, recognizing members for their contributions, and emphasizes the significance of client experience in business strategy. Key Take Aways: business growth, networking, disruptive strategies, landscaping industry, client experience, technology, peer learning, community, speed in business, events

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Shantel Perez, Employee Success Specialist at K and D Landscaping, to explore how one person can completely reshape the culture of a growing company by showing up, listening deeply, and leading with humility. Shantel didn’t come from a traditional HR background; instead, she built her role from the ground up by staying close to the field and becoming a voice the team could trust. Now in her fourth year with the company, Shantel shares how her journey from maintenance admin to company-wide culture leader has helped bridge the gap between production crews and management. Along the way, she has: Helped implement Aspire and streamline team operations Developed bilingual communication systems across departments Reduced turnover from over 40 percent to just 12 percent Spent hours in the field listening to crews and validating their experiences Replaced rigid HR policies with an employee-first, trust-based approach This episode dives into what it really means to lead with heart in a high-growth company. From walking job sites at 6 AM to attending every department’s L10 meeting, Shantel has become a pillar of consistency and care. If you’re building a team, growing a business, or rethinking what HR can be, this is one you won’t want to miss.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White celebrates a major milestone; the 100th episode of the show. What started as a simple idea between Justin and co-founder Maggie Wymore has grown into a platform that champions leadership, learning, and real conversations across the trades. After nearly 80 interviews with landscape industry professionals, Justin reflects on the most impactful lessons shared by business owners, operators, and disruptors. From mastering the numbers and empowering teams to staying humble and serving others, this episode brings together the most powerful takeaways from two years of deep conversations. In this episode, Justin shares: The core traits that separate top leaders in the industry Lessons on scaling without losing your soul Why financial literacy is non-negotiable How to build a resilient company culture that lasts What he’s learned about consistency, service, and growth Whether you’re new to the industry or building your legacy, this one is packed with hard-earned wisdom. Tune in and help us celebrate the journey so far, and get ready for what’s next.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Ron McCabe, a former tech executive turned digital marketing specialist for the landscaping industry. After working 120-hour weeks in the tech world and surviving a life-threatening health crisis, Ron made a dramatic shift; losing over 270 pounds and dedicating his career to helping landscapers grow smarter through strategic marketing with Everbearing Services  In this episode, Ron shares: • How he transitioned from a patent-holding technologist to a marketing expert in the green industry • Why local SEO, Google Business Profiles, and visual content drive the highest quality leads • How to create consistent branding that generates 6 to 9 impressions before converting a client • Why focusing on long tail keywords and niche services beats broad targeting • His approach to work life balance, using tools like Whoop and CGM to track stress and performance Ron also breaks down the importance of daily non negotiables, five day work weeks, and continuously improving both personally and professionally. If you’re a landscaper looking to level up your marketing without burning out, this episode is packed with real world strategies and inspiration.

In this weekly update, Justin White shares insights from recent conferences, including the Leanscaper and Ignite events, discussing key takeaways on goal setting, team management, and the future of the landscape industry with AI integration. He emphasizes the importance of strategic one-on-one meetings and the potential for technology to transform business operations. Additionally, he shares personal updates on his backyard project and encourages listeners to stay connected for future podcasts.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Ryan Markewich, a Canadian landscape entrepreneur, coach, and early adopter of open book management, to unpack his journey from mowing lawns to building a business that now operates with employee ownership and long term vision at the core. Ryan started his company in Kelowna, British Columbia in 1994, going door to door to pay rent while dreaming bigger. Over time, he scaled to a multi million dollar operation, but not without burnout and hard lessons along the way. Influenced by personal development legends like Jim Rohn and John Maxwell, Ryan leaned into learning, coaching, and building a company around transparency and shared success. In this episode, Ryan shares: • How he used open book management and the Great Game of Business to build real accountability • Why he sold 85 percent of his company to his employees and how the structure works • What it means to run a company focused on long term thinking and consensus based leadership • Why teaching employees how business works is the key to building great teams • What he is planning next with Our Mark Coaching and the first landscape retreat in Mexico Ryan also talks about spending months each year in Mexico to reflect, challenge his thinking, and reconnect with what matters most. If you are interested in employee ownership, values based leadership, and scaling a business that puts people first, this episode is packed with wisdom and real world experience.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White shares real-world strategies for using AI and ChatGPT to boost productivity, streamline operations, and shift from manual work to smarter systems. What used to take four hours, Justin now does in thirty seconds, thanks to custom AI tools designed specifically for the green industry. The episode opens with a story about helping a friend estimate a fence project using a custom GPT called Landscape Intelligence. The tool generated pricing, materials, permits, and layout suggestions instantly. This is just one example of how AI is transforming time-consuming tasks into fast, repeatable workflows. In this episode, Justin shares: • How to build a Master Prompt that gives ChatGPT consistent, high quality answers • Why custom GPTs are changing the game for landscapers, marketers, and operations teams • How to use the Projects feature in ChatGPT to track documents, collaborate, and maintain context • Why AI has allowed him to go from a biweekly podcast to twice per week • What to expect at Lean Scaper Dallas and Aspire Ignite Anaheim Justin also explains how AI is driving a major shift in labor, freeing up teams to focus on higher value work while machines and software take on the repetitive. He encourages listeners to start experimenting now, lean into new tools, and build systems that will drive the next generation of business growth.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White sits down with Eli Zevin, General Manager of Aspire Software, to explore the power of technology, implementation strategy, and what is coming next for the landscape industry. Eli joined Service Titan in 2016 with no background in trades or software and spent nearly a decade helping contractors succeed before taking on his new role at Aspire. From startup culture to scaling enterprise systems, Eli shares what he learned about change management, software adoption, and the importance of delivering real value during implementation. In this episode, Eli shares: • How early startup culture at Service Titan shaped his leadership style • Why great software implementations focus on outcomes, not checklists • How Aspire is helping contractors track labor variance and upsell opportunities • What role software plays in supporting mergers and acquisitions • Why the green industry is poised for massive professional growth and wealth creation Eli also shares a preview of what to expect at the upcoming Ignite conference in Anaheim, where Aspire will dive deeper into its product roadmap and how it plans to support the evolving needs of the industry. If you are looking to scale your systems, improve processes, or understand the next evolution of business technology in landscaping, this conversation is a must listen.

On this weekly update on Trades Talk, host Justin White shares a personal reflection recorded on his father Kendel’s birthday. Kendel co-founded K & D Landscaping nearly 40 years ago, and his legacy still shapes the way the company operates today. Over the last decade, K & D has grown from 1 million to 20 million in revenue. After a big jump from 15 to 20 million last year, this year is about holding steady and breaking even—but the focus has never been just financial. Justin highlights the incredible growth of team members like Shantel, Jamie, Blanca, Jake, Tony, Alejandro, and Juan, and what it means to build a company that truly develops people. In this episode, Justin shares: • Why growth is about people, not just revenue • The leadership lessons passed down from his father • What happens when leaders delegate too much or take shortcuts • Why showing up, listening, and giving more is the only way through hard times If you are in a season of reflection or navigating challenges at the top, this episode is an honest reminder that leadership is not about ease; it is about energy, effort, and showing up when it matters most.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White shares a powerful episode with Jeff Harkness, CEO of 3PG Advisors, focused on mergers, acquisitions, capital access, and the mindset shifts required to scale and create long term wealth in the green industry. Jeff brings nearly three decades of experience in M&A, with deep expertise in landscaping, tree care, and turf care services. What started as a private training for the Disruptors community is now being shared publicly for the first time. Whether you are just beginning to explore capital options or already in growth mode, this conversation breaks down what is possible when you stop thinking like an operator and start thinking like an owner. In this episode, Jeff shares: • Why private equity and mezzanine capital are flowing into the landscape industry • How to position your company for investment or acquisition • What banks, investors, and equity firms look for before writing a check • The benefits of multiple liquidity events and long term wealth creation • How to move from slow, one customer at a time growth to scalable value creation Jeff also addresses common fears around giving up control, explains why ownership is often less important than upside, and outlines how landscape companies are using institutional capital to go from regional players to market leaders. If you want to understand how the game is really played at the next level, this episode is your entry point.

This week on Trades Talk, host Justin White shares Weekly Update 13, covering how contractors are preparing for 2026, what happens when leadership systems break down, and why mindset matters long before you reach eight figures. With January 1 on the horizon, contractors are focused on budget planning, rate increases, and multi year enhancement programs. Some are holding pricing for loyal, high margin clients, while others are raising rates up to 10 percent for underperforming accounts. Justin explains how sharing operational improvements like route efficiency, crew training, and the adoption of electric equipment can build trust and justify pricing. In this episode, Justin shares: • How to think with an eight figure mindset even at five or six • Why systems collapse when leadership turns over without a plan • What it takes to rebuild accountability and support frustrated teams • How a new Leadership Accelerator Sprint is training mid level leaders • What to expect from Aspire Ignite and Lean Scaper this September Justin also gets real about challenges inside his own company and how leaders can create structure and support without burning people out. If you are growing fast and working to build a more stable operation, this episode is full of insight.