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Thinking On Paper
The Human Story of Technology, Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson
72 episodes
19 hours ago
Learn about THE REAL IMPACT of technology 👉Thinking on Paper teaches you about AI, Quantum computing, space manufacturing, robotics and Web3 from the CEOS and Silicon Valley Founders spending millions and billions making them useful. Take your curiosity, push it to its limits and see what technology can really do. Our mission is to help ONE MILLION curious minds ditch their Twitter and LinkedIn feeds and connect the dots for themselves. Each week, hosts Mark and Jeremy take you inside IBM, NASA, Coinbase, D-Wave, and more.
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Learn about THE REAL IMPACT of technology 👉Thinking on Paper teaches you about AI, Quantum computing, space manufacturing, robotics and Web3 from the CEOS and Silicon Valley Founders spending millions and billions making them useful. Take your curiosity, push it to its limits and see what technology can really do. Our mission is to help ONE MILLION curious minds ditch their Twitter and LinkedIn feeds and connect the dots for themselves. Each week, hosts Mark and Jeremy take you inside IBM, NASA, Coinbase, D-Wave, and more.
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Thinking On Paper
Farmers & Hedge Funds: How STABLECOINS Are Beating Visa & Mastercard

Stablecoins already move more volume than Visa and Mastercard combined! And with only 200 million users.


Robby Yung, CEO of Animoca Brands, shows how people move dollars across borders in minutes with near-flat fees, from market traders in Nigeria to institutions shifting tens or hundreds of millions.


This is a short from our full length deep dive into web3, the decentralized internet, DOAs, AI and what Animoca has in store for the coming year.


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22 hours ago
3 minutes 20 seconds

Thinking On Paper
The POLITICS of Space: USA V China

China built its space station Tiangong in three years after being excluded from the ISS program. It landed on the Moon in 2020 and 2024, returning samples from areas with high helium-3. Now the fight is over rules, resources, and who decides what happens on the Moon.


In this short, aerospace designer Glen Martin explains how China’s program moves from high-speed rail and grid power at home to the Moon: far-side lunar samples (via a relay network and nuclear-powered rover), a 2029 crewed landing plan, and why helium-3 matters.


We break down the rules and risks: who gets to mine the Moon, what a UN Space Resources Treaty (draft due 2027) might change, and how U.S. domestic space laws could drive a Wild-West approach.


We cover why China built Tiangong after being blocked from the ISS, and what’s so important about the lunar south pole’s “rim of eternal light.”


Keep Thinking On Paper.


Cheers, 


Mark & Jeremy.


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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Chinese Infrastructure

(00:47) Bringing Russia to ISS

(01:21) We Blocked The Chinese

(01:41) Tiangong & 2029 Moon Landings

(02:22) The Global Politics Of Space

(03:36) The Lunar South Pole

(04:07) The United Nations

(04:41) The Moon Wild West


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1 day ago
5 minutes 13 seconds

Thinking On Paper
AI: The Music Industry Fights Back | Pay The Real Musicians For The Songs - AI Music Attribution

You're probably listening to AI generated music and you don't even realise it. But rest assured, the musicians whose beats, rhymes and livelihood were stolen to train the models are well aware.

They're reminded every time they check their empty bank accounts.

99,000 new songs are uploaded to streaming platforms every day. According to Deezer, almost one in five are now made by our artificial friends.

You wouldn't play a single one at your funeral.

And it gets worse.

According to Ditto music, 59% of musicians use AI in some aspect of their music.

It's a highway to hell.

How do the real musicians get paid?

How do the record labels keep track of their... tracks?

What about session musicians, producers, songwriters and the bass player?

How do they all get their fair reward?

And how do you prove their input in the output of a model?

Yes, it is all very very very difficult.

Thankfully, amongst the madness, the always excellent Cherie Hu, Yung Spielburg and Alexander Flores of Water & Music researched and wrote about what's at stake, how technology can be used to solve the riddle and which companies are trying to shake that moneymaker.

We read their research.


Please share with a music lover.


Cheers


Mark and Jeremy

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(00:00) The Intersection of Music and AI

(03:26) Understanding Music Attribution

(03:51) Sonic Characteristics and AI Influence

(06:39) The Complexity of AI Music Generation

(07:36) The Value Equation in AI Music Creation

(08:08) Understanding Influence Functions in Music AI

(09:44) Challenges of Attribution in AI-Generated Music

(11:38) Exploring Embeddings and Their Role in Music AI

(14:17) Watermarking and Its Limitations in Music Attribution

(15:30) Synthetic Data and Its Implications for Music AI

(17:48) Innovative Solutions for Music Rights Attribution

(18:01) Distinguishing Compositional vs. Recording Contributions

(19:59) The Impact of AI on the Music Industry's Inequities

(23:03) Trust and Technology in Music Attribution




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3 days ago
27 minutes 5 seconds

Thinking On Paper
The Quantum Computing Operating System & Spin Qubits | Brandon Severin, Conductor Quantum

If quantum computers already exist, why can’t they do anything useful? The issue isn’t quantum mechanics, it’s control. Every qubit must be tuned, stabilized, and kept coherent, and that process collapses long before scale.


Brandon Severin, founder of Conductor Quantum, joins Jeremy and Mark to Think On Paper about spin qubits, AI calibration, Google’s latest quantum chip, and how his company is using semiconductor-based qubits to build quantum computers at scale.


From his PhD at Oxford (where he crossed paths with Oxford Ionics founder Dr. Chris Ballance) to launching a startup in Silicon Valley, Brandon shares how physics, engineering, and software are finally converging in quantum computing.


In this episode:


⚛ How Google’s new quantum algorithm moves us closer to simulating atoms and molecules.

⚛ The difference between trapped ions and spin qubits — and why spin qubits could scale faster.

⚛ Inside Conductor Quantum’s work on calibration, fidelity, and error correction.

⚛ How AI is redefining quantum control and stability.

⚛ The rise of the quantum founder: from lone academics to builders focused on scale.

⚛ Why progress in quantum depends on manufacturing, algorithms, and collaboration — not just brainpower.

⚛ Why millions of qubits, not a “magic” single qubit, are needed for real computation.


Most quantum content sits in a kind of superposition: too technical to follow or too simple to teach you anything new. Thinking On Paper cuts through that noise.


If this conversation made you think differently about quantum computing, follow the show and share it with someone curious.


Keep thinking on paper.


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Timestamps

(00:00) Trailer

(01:13) The Google Announcement Explained Simply

(03:47) Trapped Ions vs. Spin Qubits

(06:14) How AI Controls Quantum Computers

(11:06) Inside the Quantum Circus: Managing Errors, Fidelity, and Coherence

(32:59) Building Quantum Computers: Why Scale Depends on Automation

(33:41) The Culture of Quantum Startups vs. the AI Boom

(36:52) Human Nature, Technology, and the Race for Control

(39:43) The Future of Quantum Computing: From Physics to Scalable Systems



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1 week ago
46 minutes 43 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Is CHINA Winning The Race To The Moon? | Rocket Scientist Glen Martin On Helium-3

Helium-3 is essential for fusion energy, quantum computing, and tracking nuclear weapons. The U.S. has just 29 kilograms, and there may be as little as 100 kilograms on Earth. But aerospace engineer Glen Martin cites NASA data suggesting roughly 1.1 million tons may be trapped on the Moon.


In this episode, Mark and Jeremy Think On Paper with Glen, CEO of the Extraterrestrial Mining Company, about the emerging science and politics of lunar mining and the race now unfolding above us.


Glen explains how solar winds have been seeding the Moon with Helium-3 for billions of years, why AI data centers and quantum computers are already driving global demand, and how private companies are moving into territory once reserved for governments.


What begins as a conversation about mining technology becomes a deeper look at scarcity, competition, and the moral questions that come with abundance.


Will space resources help us build a post-scarcity society, or just extend the same rivalries into orbit?

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Timestamps


(00:00) Trailer

(02:45) What is Helium-3, and why are we mining the Moon?

(05:29) Why there’s almost no Helium-3 on Earth, and a million tons on the Moon

(09:01) How Helium-3 could be harvested from lunar dust

(10:33) Fusion without fallout: the clean-energy promise of Helium-3

(13:01) Space-based solar power and fusion: two paths to future energy.

(17:56) How private companies plan to finance Moon mining

(21:52) The new space race: U.S., China, and the competition for lunar fuel

(25:03) Can treaties prevent conflict over Moon resources?

(27:37) AI, autonomy, and the machines that will mine the Moon

(29:31) NASA’s commercial lunar payloads and the rise of space infrastructure

(31:08) What lunar regolith tells us about Helium-3 reserves

(33:35) The trillion-dollar question: who profits from space resources?

(36:17) Curiosity, wonder, and the future of human exploration

(40:01) Technology, morality, and the choice to be good


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2 weeks ago
41 minutes 27 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Privacy Is POWER (And You're GIVING IT UP One Damn Cookie At A Time) | Carissa Veliz

AI ethics sounds reassuring. Carissa VĂ©liz argues it’s a contradiction: you can’t build “ethical” systems on surveillance. The result isn’t accountability, it’s rule by opaque models you can’t inspect or appeal. That’s not ethics, that's the definition of Kafkaesque.


Joining Mark and Jeremy on Thinking on Paper, Carissa Véliz lays out three hard truths.


- Privacy is both a right and a duty. It allows lawyers, journalists, and citizens to act without intimidation. Remove it and democracy loses its working parts.


- Privacy is collective. The choices you make affect everyone else.


- Governments and Big Tech now co-produce surveillance; data moves in both directions, and history shows companies can rival states in coercive power.


VĂ©liz also gets practical: what can be inferred from “just” location, why trading sovereignty for convenience breeds dependence, and how even small shifts — using Signal instead of WhatsApp, Proton instead of Gmail — can matter when 5–10 percent of people change their habits, the power shifts. 


Surveillance isn’t the future. It’s the business model, and it works because we accept it.


Not on our watch. 


Please enjoy the show. 


And subscribe to help us keep telling the human story of technology.


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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Trailer

(02:26) What Is Privacy

(05:31) Is Democracy At Risk?

(08:34) Government & Big Tech

(10:39) How To Decouple Big Tech & Government

(12:33) Privacy & The Common Human Experience

(16:02) Tools To Protect Your Privacy

(17:18) Cookie Clutter

(19:30) ChatGPT Writes Policy

(20:05) Radical Open Mindedness

(21:52) AI Alignment

(22:56) AI Ethics

(28:09) How To Erase Your Data

(29:27) What Should Humanity Be?


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3 weeks ago
31 minutes 23 seconds

Thinking On Paper
This Is What HUMANS Should Really Be (And How TECHNOLOGY Gets Us There)

In early 2025, Kevin Kelly, one of the great technological philosophers of our time, joined Mark & Jeremy to Think on Paper. Before he left, he asked a question. A question about the future and technology: What should humans be? 


At the end of every show, we ask every guest this question. And the answers always resonate on an emotional, human level. They land on something universal. The same words, the same ideas, the same wants for humanity come up again and again. Creativity, curiosity, kindness, empathy, discovery, adventure, ambition. 


This is the first part of our series compiling the answers. A reminder, in the dark days that technology is built by us, for us, and most people are nice, kind and want the best for us all. As you'll see. Yes, it maybe a simple message at times, but we're OK with that. Because on simple ideas are civilizations born.


Please enjoy this special compilation of thoughts and ideas. And tell someone to come Think on Paper with us.


We'd appreciate that.


Be curious, stay disruptive, keep thinking on paper.


Cheers, 


Mark and Jeremy.


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Timestamps

(00:00) The Story

(00:58) Kindness (& Books)

(01:55) Meaning

(02:32) Connection

(03:03) Discovery

(03:36) Curiosity

(04:30) Consciousness

(05:00) Ambition

(05:31) Creativity

(06:07) Wisdom

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“Documentary — The Fourth Industrial Revolution” by World Economic Forum, licensed under CC BY 3.0: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Documentary_-_The_Fourth_Industrial_Revolution.webm" 


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 "“Out of This World — Prelinger Archives / Public Domain (via Internet Archive)”


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Guests in this video


Mark Boggett: https://youtu.be/PExunxFL71E?si=XrpkRRmFCjR1VxC7

Rajeev Kapur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWEuQmPcqJ8&t=193s

Rob Locascio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaM8lITXx6Y&t=428s

Andrew Hill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4BXeXS9wE&t=50s

Will Alpine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obs2vxp-SP0&t=44s

Katia Moskovitch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPwM0dCEYkI&t=185s

Robby Yung: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHiSkSEQy-c&t=2010s

Khang Nguyen-Trieu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbnVirwbGBc&t=85s

Martin Soltau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl-z1d6d_as&t=572s


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3 weeks ago
6 minutes 59 seconds

Thinking On Paper
The Trillion Dollar BUSINESS Of Space | Mark Boggett, CEO Seraphim

The space economy is set to reach $1.8 trillion by 2035. Everyone talks about rockets. Almost no one talks about the infrastructure that connects orbit to Earth. This is where billions of dollars of that space investment are being increasingly allocated. 


Mark Boggett runs Seraphim Investments, a London-based fund that backs the companies building the foundations of the space economy. In this conversation, he explains why the future of space isn’t about launch or tourism, but data, defense, and the networks that will define a trillion-dollar market.


We look at how falling launch costs from SpaceX, Rocket Lab, and Firefly have moved the bottleneck from rockets to downlink infrastructure - the networks that move satellite data back to Earth. 


Boggett outlines the under-invested opportunities in ground terminals, communications, and cybersecurity that will define the next decade of the space economy.


He also talks about the rise of direct-to-device connectivity through companies like AST SpaceMobile and Globalstar, the coming laser mesh networks led by Amazon’s Kuiper constellation, and the new markets emerging in orbital services: debris removal, refueling, and regulation-driven sustainability through firms like Astroscale and LeoLabs.


This is the quieter side of the space race, the infrastructure and data layer where long-term investors are quietly shaping a trillion-dollar future.


Enjoy the show. 


And please subscribe so we can continue building the channel, and thinking on Paper. 


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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Trailer

(01:56) Disruptors & Curious Minds

(03:08) Mark Boggett 

(03:27) The Reality Of A 10-Year Investment Period

(04:07) Predictions On The Space Economy

(04:39) Space Race 2.0: The USA V China 

(05:54) Direct to Device Space Communications

(08:05) Public Markets Love Space Tech Investments

(09:35) Space Exits & IPOS

(10:36) Trump & Musk To Dominate Space Agenda

(11:17) The Space Ecosystem 2025

(12:10) Satellite Companies: Hardware & Software

(12:36) Launch Companies: SpaceX, Firefly & Rocket Labs

(13:50) Satellite Constellations

(14:24) HAPS (High Altitude Platforms)

(15:22) Data Collection, Ground Terminals & Cyber Security

(16:46) Downlink: The Growth Area Of Space Investments

(18:50) Satellite Data Companies

(21:08) Space Verticals: Climate Success Stories

(22:20) How Satellites Verify Carbon Credits

(24:37) Space Debris & New Regulations To Clean Up Orbit

(26:38) Getting Old, Rickety Satellites Out Of Orbit

(30:26) Giving Regulators Teeth

(31:15) Geopolitics And Defense Based Space Investment

(36:33) Terraforming Mars

(36:48) Best Sci-Fi Movie

(36:56) Do Kids Look Up? The Accessibility Of Space

(37:20) The Best Reason To Go To The Moon

(39:51) What Should Humans Be?


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1 month ago
43 minutes 16 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Generative AI Use Is RAMPANT In UK Schools (And That's Just The Teachers)

How is generative AI reshaping classrooms? According to the Alan Turing Institute’s national report, one in four UK children aged 8 to 12 now use tools like ChatGPT or Snapchat AI at school, while 85 percent of teachers rely on AI for lesson planning or marking.


This episode of Thinking on Paper Mark and Jeremy break down the Alan Turing Institute’s two-part study on AI in schools, combining survey data and workshops with children. The findings reveal how kids are already using generative AI, what they think about bias and privacy, and how education systems are struggling to keep pace.


Key topics:

- Children using ChatGPT and generative AI in schools

- The growing divide between private and state schools in AI access

- Teachers’ mixed feelings about AI productivity vs. critical thinking

- Why “child-centered AI” could reshape the classroom

- What parents and policymakers can learn from the Alan Turing Institute report


Watch if you’re interested in: AI in education, child development, or how technology is shaping the next generation of learners.


Subscribe for more episodes exploring the intersection of technology, ethics, and human development.


And keep Thinking On Paper. 


TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Disruptors And Curious Minds

(02:40) The Alan Turing Research On The Impact Of AI On Children

(03:49) The Most Popular AI Platform For Kids

(04:41) How Are Kids Using AI?

(04:55) Key Statistics From The Research On AI Use In School

(05:33) The Divide: Private vs. Public School AI Usage

(08:08) Are Kids Using AI To Cheat In School?

(09:55) The RITECH Framework: Evaluating AI for Kids

(11:18) Quotes From Kids On AI

(16:13) Child Versions Of ChatGPT

(18:12) Recommendations From The Alan Turing Institute


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1 month ago
23 minutes 31 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Beyond Q-Day: IBM’s Lory Thorpe on Mastering Post-Quantum Cryptography

IBM's Lory Thorpe warns that quantum computers could soon crack the encryption protecting our banks, health records, and personal data, enabling "harvest now, decrypt later" attacks that threaten global security.

Through IBM's collaboration with NIST and major institutions, she's racing to develop quantum-resistant algorithms before current encryption systems become obsolete.

Join hosts Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson to explore how organizations and individuals can prepare for this looming cryptographic crisis, featuring insights from Apple's quantum-safe iMessage initiative.


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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro: Disruptors and Curious Minds

(02:30) Meet Lory Thorpe of IBM Quantum

(03:21) Lory’s Journey: From Telecom to Quantum Security

(07:01) Why Healthcare Needs Post-Quantum Protection

(09:41) "Harvest Now, Decrypt Later": The Quantum Data Risk

(12:00) IBM’s Work with Governments and Regulators

(16:30) Cryptography 101: What You Need to Know

(18:47) The Cost of Quantum and the Threat to Today’s Encryption

(21:20) IBM & NIST: Setting Quantum Standards Together

(22:08) Inside the 3 Quantum-Resistant Algorithms

(25:17) Apple Adopts Post-Quantum Encryption in iMessage

(25:52) Crypto Agility Explained: A Key to Future-Proof Security

(29:54) The RSA Encryption Debate: Is the Quantum Threat Overblown?

(38:45) Thought Experiment: November 1st, 2031 – The Quantum Deadline

(42:51) Where Cryptography Touches Everyday Life

(46:57) How AI and Quantum Shape IBM’s Strategy

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Past guests on The Thinking On Paper Show include: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ciaran Murray⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (web3 for journalists), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Torrey Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Robotics For Medicine), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jason Lynch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Quantum Computing), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joe Fitzsimons⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Quantum Computing), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dana Sydorenko⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Gaming), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Don Norman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Humanity Centered Design), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mercina Tillerman Perez⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Circle & Crypto), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tyler Adams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Blockchain), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Todd Haselhorst ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(Blockchain for Logistics), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vince Yang⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (ZK Proofs)



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1 month ago
55 minutes 10 seconds

Thinking On Paper
D-Wave: The €20 Million Quantum Computer Your Business Can Buy Today - Murray Thom, VP Quantum Technology Evangelism

Murray Thom, VP of Quantum Technology Evangelism at D-Wave, joins us to break down how D-Wave’s quantum computing technology (as used by NASA, VW, Lockheed Martin) is tackling complex, high-stakes problems across industries.

Learn how D-Wave’s unique use of quantum annealing helps solve real-world challenges, from logistics optimization to drug discovery and traffic management.

Murray explains how D-Wave’s hybrid quantum-classical systems maximize computational power by leveraging quantum effects alongside classical computing, enabling optimizations that traditional systems simply can’t match. Discover why D-Wave is trusted by organizations, including NASA, to handle high-dimensional, multi-variable data, delivering immediate benefits in efficiency, productivity, and operational insight.

From the development of the first quantum computer to real-world applications, Murray explains how businesses are gaining a competitive edge and solving their toughest challenges with quantum technology.

Stay tuned for practical insights, key D-Wave milestones, and a look at what’s next in quantum computing.

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TIMESTAMPS(00:00) Introduction to Quantum Innovation(01:22) Meet Murray Thom: Quantum Expert from D-Wave(02:30) How Quantum Incentives Drive Industry Collaboration(05:30) Breaking Down Quantum Complexity for the Real World(07:30) Murray Thom on Joining D-Wave 22 Years Ago(09:02) The Role of Quantum Physics in Real-World Solutions(10:07) Major Milestones in D-Wave’s Quantum Journey(12:36) Understanding Quantum Annealing: A Practical Guide(18:47) Key Benefits of D-Wave’s Quantum Annealing Technology(21:40) D-Wave’s Efficient Power Use: 15kW Explained(23:45) Quantum Computing Through a PokĂ©mon Analogy(25:35) Real-World Impact: Workforce Scheduling with Quantum(31:45) Quantum Systems in Sports Team Optimization(33:02) Tackling Complex Industrial Problems with Quantum(34:48) Portfolio Optimization: Quantum vs. Classical Methods(40:53) What Does a D-Wave Quantum Computer Cost?(42:11) Exploring the D-Wave SDK(44:45) Partnering with D-Wave: What to Expect(45:58) Quantum Collaboration with IBM(49:39) A Question for IBM on Post-Quantum Cryptography

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Past guests on The Thinking On Paper Show include: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ciaran Murray⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (web3 for journalists), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Torrey Smith⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Robotics For Medicine), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jason Lynch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Quantum Computing), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joe Fitzsimons⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Quantum Computing), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dana Sydorenko⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Gaming), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Don Norman⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Humanity Centered Design), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mercina Tillerman Perez⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Circle & Crypto), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tyler Adams⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Blockchain), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Todd Haselhorst ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(Blockchain for Logistics), ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vince Yang⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (ZK Proofs)


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1 month ago
51 minutes 52 seconds

Thinking On Paper
CHEAP Space Manufacturing & Self-Replicating 3d-Printed Humanoids

Twelve metric tons and a SpaceX rocket. That’s all it would take to begin building industry on the Moon. Factories would rise. Humanoids would adapt.


Asteroids would be mined. And within decades, the solar system could host an economy millions of times larger than Earth’s today.


The catalyst is a paper by Philip Metzger, Anthony Muscatello, Robert Mueller, and James Mantovani outlining a pathway to scalable off-world industry. Their thesis: with as little as twelve metric tons delivered to the Moon, we could set in motion a self-sustaining system at a fraction of traditional costs.


The upside is clear. Manufacturing shifts away from Earth, easing climate pressure. Humanity secures a new home. Our culture extends beyond the planet, with no end in sight.The risks are equally sharp. Corporations could carve space into their next empire. Billions might remain behind, spectators to humanity’s expansion.This is the blueprint for how we leave Earth.


And the reason we may not all go together.Stay curious. Stay disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper.Subscribe if you believe the hardest part of leaving Earth isn’t the technology. It’s us.

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TIMESTAMPS


(00:00) Trailer

(02:05) The Vision for Humanity's Future in Space

(03:22) Affordable Rapid Bootstrapping of Space Industry

(04:58) The Role of Resources in Space Expansion

(05:06) Technological Advancements and Robotics

(08:12) Generational Development of Lunar Industry

(09:42) The Evolution of AI and Automation in Space

(10:47) The Future of Humanity Beyond Earth

(14:25) Exploring Space-Based Solar Power

(15:23) The Future of Robotics and AI in Space

(17:21) Challenges of Teleoperation in Lunar Environments

(18:05) The Ambitious Vision for Space Manufacturing

(20:25) Terraforming Mars vs. Space-Based Manufacturing

(22:32) Human Nature and the Future of Space Exploration





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1 month ago
25 minutes 48 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Is AI For EVERYONE A Silly Pipe Dream (Or A Genuine End To POVERTY?)

Rajeev Kapur believes we’re standing at the edge of a new enlightenment. One powered not by steam or electricity, but by the democratization of artificial intelligence.

Named by Forbes as one of the leading voices making AI accessible to everyone, Rajeev’s work centers on a simple question: what happens when world-class technology reaches every hand on Earth? From launching the Kapur Parada Center of AI in Arizona to authoring AI Made Simple and Prompting Made Simple, his mission is to turn curiosity into capability.

In this conversation, we look at what true AI democratization might mean. From the favelas of Brazil and the villages of Africa to classrooms in the U.S. If you have a smartphone, you already have access to mentorship, education, and entrepreneurial tools that rival Silicon Valley. But access alone isn’t enough.

As Rajeev argues, the future belongs to those who can tell stories with AI. People who use these tools not just to search for answers, but to imagine, create, and build.

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🕓 TIMESTAMPS

Trailer: (00:00)

How Do We Democratize AI: (02:30)

Case Studies: How AI Is Being Used By Business Today: (05:44)

Outsourcing and AI Transform Businesses: (06:31) 

How To Prompt Better: (08:08)

Using ChatGPT For Mental Health: (09:25)

AIs Manipulation Of Empathy: (13:44) 

AI Advice For Parents: (14:49)

Deepfakes & Guardrails: (19:45)

Entrepreneur Spikes (26:19)

What Should Humans Be? (28:28) 


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1 month ago
29 minutes 53 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Has KEVIN KELLY Changed His Mind About Artificial Intelligence?

Kevin Kelly has spent 40 years asking one question: what is technology really?


He is the founding editor of Wired. His books have shaped how we think about innovation, the future of technology, and what works. His voice has been present at every major technological shift, from the early internet to AI today.


His influence has reached all the way to this podcast. His essays and ideas are often places we return to for deep thought and reflection. Kevin Kelly is the ultimate curiosity machine, and it was a pleasure to speak with him at length about his ideas, philosophies, and even his jokes.


In this conversation, Kevin thinks on paper with Mark and Jeremy about technology as the 7th kingdom of life, as real and alive as plants, animals, and fungi.


We get into:

  • Why technology is not separate from us. Kevin argues that tools, machines, and AI are part of the same evolutionary process as biology. Technology is “nature accelerated.”


  • The limits of top-down control. From DAOs to Wikipedia, Kevin explains why bottom-up systems thrive, but also why some hierarchy is unavoidable.


  • AI as creativity, not imitation. He sees large language models as collaborators, capable of surprising outputs that extend human imagination.


  • Artificial aliens. Rather than replicas of us, Kevin believes AIs will become their own kind of consciousness, different and alien but no less real.


  • How tools shape thought. From writing to photography to AI, Kevin shows why every medium changes how we think, and why skill matters as much as the tool itself.


  • The practice of wonder. He shares how noticing, gratitude, and “thinking like a Martian” keep curiosity alive in a world saturated with tech.


  • Kevin Kelly is more than a futurist. He is a thinker who helps us see clearly, reminding us that technology is not a threat from outside but a living system we are already part of.


This is a must-watch for anyone who wants to see AI and technology not as hype or fear, but as part of life itself, the 7th kingdom of nature.


Please enjoy the show.


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Chapters

(00:00) Kevin Kelly On Nature And Technology

(02:59) Why Decentralized Systems Still Need Some Hierarchy

(09:03) Why DAOs Failed: Immutability Was a Bug

(16:46) Is AI Creative? (Yes) & The Coming Emotional Bonds

(21:39) AI Consciousness: A Spectrum of Artificial Aliens

(29:16) "Write to Discover What You Think"

(32:48) Balancing AI Tools & Human Thinking

(33:50) AI as a Skill & Powerful Thinking Partner

(37:50) Hot Buttons: Future, Bitcoin, Jurassic Park, Aliens?

(41:10) How to Cultivate Wonder (Hint: Be a Martian)

(49:10) The Power of Saying "I Don't Know"

(53:54) Kevin Kelly's Question: What Do We Want Humans To Be?



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1 month ago
38 minutes 24 seconds

Thinking On Paper
SPACE-BASED SOLAR POWER Explained... In 8 Minutes

For decades, the idea of harvesting solar energy from orbit belonged to science fiction. The theory was sound—collect sunlight in space and beam it to Earth as microwave energy—but the cost of launch, assembly, and control made it impossible to justify.


Today, those constraints have changed. Reusable rockets, autonomous robotics, and modular design have pulled the concept from imagination into prototype. What was once a thought experiment at NASA is now an engineering roadmap at the European Space Agency, Japan’s JAXA, and several private ventures.


Dr. Sanjay Vijendran has spent his career at the center of that transition. As the former solar lead at the European Space Agency and now CEO of Space Energy Insights, he is helping to define what the first space-based utility might look like.The principle is deceptively simple: no cables, no new physics—just power transmitted by radio waves, a technology proven since the 1960s.


In 2022, researchers demonstrated the first controlled transmission of two kilowatts over thirty-six meters, enough to light a model city and power an electrolyzer.The question now is scale. Gigawatt-class satellites would require kilometer-wide antennas, in-orbit robotics, and coordination across nations.


Yet the direction of progress is clear. Space-based solar power is no longer a dream of limitless energy; it is a near-term infrastructure program with global implications.The first nation or consortium to master it will not just create clean energy.


It will control a new layer of the world’s power grid—one that operates above the atmosphere.This conversation with Dr. Vijendran explores how that future is being built, the physics that make it possible, and the geopolitical choices that will determine who turns sunlight into sovereignty.


Please enjoy the show.


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Timestamps

(00:00) Why Energy Poverty Still Matters

(01:26) How Beaming Power Actually Works

(04:09) The Big Problem: Scaling It Up

(04:56) Can It Ever Be Affordable?

(07:19) Building Solar Farms in Space


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1 month ago
7 minutes 59 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Don Norman Is The GODFATHER of Design

At 88, Don Norman, the godfather of design, issues his final warning: the same mindset that gave us convenience also gave us climate collapse, inequality, and fragile institutions. Design isn’t decoration. It’s power. It built the products we use, the systems we depend on, and the crises that now threaten us.

“Human-centered” design sounds good, but it isn’t enough. Norman argues it has blinded us to bigger responsibilities , ecosystems, culture, and the generations who will inherit our mistakes. We need Humanity Centered Design.

In this conversation Don Norman Thinks on Paper with Mark and Jeremy about:

  • Has human-centered design failed?

  • Why are climate summits designed to fail before they begin?

  • How did STEM education strip out wisdom?

  • Can empathy ever be built into systems at scale?


Can humanity centered design help us survive, or will it keep driving us toward collapse?Please enjoy the interview with Don Norman.

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Timestamps


(00:09) Why Design Shapes the World We Live In

(00:37) How Design Shapes Human Behavior (Often Without Us Noticing)

(06:00) Why Most Solutions Don’t Matter — and What Real Design Should Do

(09:10) Humanity-Centered Design: What It Really Means

(22:16) Can Design Help Us Avoid Collapse?

(26:51) Why Communities Hold the Answers, Not Just Experts

(28:49) The Spark That Starts Humanity-Centered Design

(30:18) How Young Designers Can Change the Future

(33:16) Working Together Across Borders

(35:39) Measuring What Matters, Not Just What’s Easy

(37:06) Why Empathy Can’t Be an Afterthought

(42:05) Thinking Beyond the Next Quarter — Business for the Long Term

(45:02) Rethinking Education for the Next Generation

(46:43) The Hard Questions We Still Need to Answer


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1 month ago
47 minutes 12 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Thousands Of Lives RUINED In Sam Altman's Corporate ARMS RACE for AGI | Karen Hao Book Club - Part 2

This is a book summary of Empire of AI by karen Hao. The book asks whether Sam Altman and the Open AI gang are sociopaths with no regard for humanity or the planet? Is artificial intelligence and the drive to AGI driven only by ego?


From data farms to global labor networks, the story of AI is ugly. The systems are sustained by unseen humans. Millions of workers labeling data, moderating content, and maintaining the illusion of automation and paid peanuts.


At the top, in their castles in San Francisco, sit the new emperors of technology, CEOs and policymakers navigating a system that no single person can command or fully comprehend. And one man sits at the top of the empire: Sam Altman.

In part two of our Empire of AI book summary, we get a reality check.

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đŸ•°ïž TIMESTAMPS



(00:00) Trailer

(02:00) Introduction to Empire of AI & Karen Hao

(03:41)Shifting power dynamics in Silicon Valley

(03:59) Karen Hao’s warnings in Empire of AI

(04:56) Humanity V the relentless race for scale

(06:32) The environmental impact of AI systems

(07:38) Stochastic parrots: Silencing Critics

(09:48) Sam Altman Loves A Military Quote

(10:53) What Cost Humanity?

(15:14) The global race for AI advancement

(18:32) The hidden labor behind ChatGPT

(25:07) The ethical dilemma at the heart of AI development




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1 month ago
26 minutes 26 seconds

Thinking On Paper
QUANTUM COMPUTERS Make Too Many Mistakes | Oliver Dial, IBM Quantum

Quantum computers make mistakes — a lot of them. One in every thousand calculations can be wrong.In this Thinking on Paper Pocket Edition, Mark and Jeremy speak with Oliver Dial, CTO of IBM Quantum, about how researchers are turning unstable prototypes into practical machines.Oliver explains the difference between error mitigation and fault tolerance, how IBM’s new codes make quantum systems ten times more efficient, and why AI now helps optimize the circuits themselves.

He also shares how quantum computing could transform material science, unlocking lighter, stronger, and smarter materials for the next technological age.Please enjoy the show.And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper.Cheers,Mark & Jeremy

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1 month ago
8 minutes 7 seconds

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When You DIE, Your Personal AI Will Live On (And Speak To Your Kids) | Rob LoCascio

Rob LoCascio has spent three decades teaching machines to talk. As the founder of LivePerson, he helped create the first commercial chatbots that shaped online conversation.


Now, with Eternos AI, he’s working on the next phase of personal AI: teaching machines to remember us.Eternos builds personal AI models trained on your voice, memories, and values. These are designed to act as living archives of the self.


The vision is twofold: a digital companion that helps you while you’re alive, and a legacy system that continues to share your guidance after you’re gone.It’s a project that merges AI ethics, data rights, and philosophy.


If your thoughts can be modeled, who owns them? When your personality becomes software, is that preservation or replication?


In this conversation, Rob discusses the evolution from LivePerson to personal AI, the architecture behind Eternos, and why he believes digital immortality will become one of the defining industries of the 21st century — transforming grief, mentorship, and identity itself.


As AI moves from automation to imitation, we may be entering an era where the most valuable data is no longer what we produce, but who we are.


Please enjoy the show.

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Chapters:

(00:00) The future of AI starts here

(02:11) How AI is changing human connection forever

(05:55) Where AI meets humanity

(11:54) The story that sparked personal AI

(19:50) Why you must own your AI before it owns you

(20:10) The hidden vault of your data

(22:31) Why voice is the next big interface

(25:11) How AI will slip into daily life?

(25:36) Can personal AI be monetized?

(27:14) The fight to regulate AI

(27:52) What AI means for being human

(29:46) Will your knowledge outlive you?

(32:05) How to build your personal AI identity

(33:28) Writing the story of your life with AI


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1 month ago
35 minutes 9 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Seemingly CONSCIOUS AI | Mustafa Suleyman's AI Zombies & The Dawn Of The Dead

Seemingly conscious AI is a real threat. The AI Zombies are coming and you're not ready.


A man takes his own life after months of talking to a chatbot. Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI warns that seemingly conscious ai is coming.In this Thinking on Paper Pocket Edition, Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson Think On Paper about Mustafa Suleyman’s essay “Seemingly Conscious AI” and what happens when artificial intelligence begins to act alive.They explore Suleyman’s warning that these systems could trigger AI psychosis, emotional dependency, and misplaced empathy and the larger question of how humans will tell the difference between connection and code.The conversation touches on philosophical zombies, consciousness, guardrails, and the story of Adam Raines, whose death ignited the debate over responsibility and design in AI.Please enjoy the show.And remember: Stay curious. Be disruptive. Keep Thinking on Paper.Cheers,Mark & Jeremy


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Timestamps

(00:00) Teaser

(01:17) Adam Raine

(01:28) Who Is Mustafa Suleyman?

(02:36) The Run Up To Superintelligence

(03:57) What Is Seemingly Conscious AI?

(05:04) Philosophical Zombies 

(06:14) ChatGPT Is Just A Word Predictor

(07:01) What Does It Take To Build A Seemingly Conscious AI?

(08:08) The Illusion Of Conscious AI

(09:59) How Different Are You To An AI?

(11:39) Repeating The Covid Dynamic

(13:27) OpenAI's Response To Adam Raine

(15:02) The Dystopian Seemingly Conscious Timeline

(18:18) Generation Text-Over-Talk

(18:52) The Utopian Seemingly Conscious AI Timeline

(21:22) AI Guardrails

(23:43) Adam Raine Chat Log

(26:18) Thinking On Paper

(27:01) We Should Build AI For People, Not To Be A Person


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2 months ago
27 minutes 6 seconds

Thinking On Paper
Learn about THE REAL IMPACT of technology 👉Thinking on Paper teaches you about AI, Quantum computing, space manufacturing, robotics and Web3 from the CEOS and Silicon Valley Founders spending millions and billions making them useful. Take your curiosity, push it to its limits and see what technology can really do. Our mission is to help ONE MILLION curious minds ditch their Twitter and LinkedIn feeds and connect the dots for themselves. Each week, hosts Mark and Jeremy take you inside IBM, NASA, Coinbase, D-Wave, and more.