Many companies are finding themselves stuck in the AI productivity paradox - employees use AI every day, but the business sees little tangible ROI. Anthony Butler believes the answer lies in the “AI Agent OS,” a system where autonomous agents manage entire business functions and turn AI’s potential into measurable results.
A former IBM Distinguished Engineer and Chief Architect at the National Centre of AI (NCAI), Anthony is now VP at HUMAIN, where he helps develop secure, multilingual AI systems for government and enterprise use. In this episode, he lays out a practical roadmap for moving beyond endless pilots to real production value - and much more.
In this episode, we unpack:
(00:00) Intro
(10:16) What is a full-stack AI company?
(12:06) AI sovereignty for nations and enterprises
(14:14) The AI productivity paradox explained
(23:48) How AI agents create business ROI
(26:35) Security risks of agentic AI systems
(36:43) Why you should stop doing AI PoCs
(38:30) Future of HR and AI agent management
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In the premiere episode, Lior hosts Vishnu Parimi, Former Head of AI Products at business-software company Freshworks and a former leader at Microsoft Azure and AWS. Vishnu pulls back the curtain on the strategies and architecture that allow Freshworks to turn the promise of AI into an operational reality that generates a real return on investment (ROI).
Since recording this episode, Vishnu has joined Zendesk as its VP of Product.
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